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WRT	Company Representative	Edited by: WRT Feb 17, 11, 11:23PM \| #1
Joined: Sep 29, 09 Threads: 14 Posts: 1,850	Take a look at this post from a Kenyan 'writer': Justus: To Kenyan Writers Time has come for these "degree holders" to egress the market. They are "professors" and "doctors" indeed. As a result, account deactivation (minus proper reason), useless threats, and scamming will cease to exists. They have mistreated us while we write their term papers, theses, dissertations, name them, so that they can "graduate". Yet, they claim they are native speakers! Native speakers who cannot write for themselves! You will excuse us by this. It is beautiful that the stupid worm has not passed over Kenya and so, we hold pure degrees. No single penny will be lost from your account in name of unreasonable fines. Working for $3, $4, or even $5 will be a thing of the past. Here we are, unstoppably. We are and will continue using your market. Our students write their own papers. Why do you boast, you Americans? If Kenyans rule you, write for you, use you and so on, who are professors? Website owners: stop hiring Kenyan writers. Not only are they ingrates who are undeserving of the opportunity provided them, but they detest and disrespect us. They open multiple accounts with single companies, sell accounts, deny receipt of payment, provide trash in lieu of work and, quite honestly, their work is a poor reflection upon sly of us. Let's not forget that they steal customers by inserting their contact info within the text of uploaded orders or in the doc property. Don't forget that their educational system and their cultural references/worldview are very very different from those of our clients. Don't lose sight of the fact that their English is horrid, that they plagiarise and, in general terms, have very questionable work ethics. Do not hire Kenyan writers. Let them open their one websites. Do not give them access to your writer panels or allow them to gain insight into how we conduct business. Fire all Kenyan writers! Many have already done so and even EW is no longer hiring Kenyans. Mods - do not allow them the opportunity to scam customers through either essayscam or essaychat - ban the country IP. Let them open their own forums and websites.

WritersBeware		Feb 17, 11, 11:26PM \| #2
Joined: Apr 19, 07 Threads: 152 Posts: 8,678	WRT: ban the country IP +1 IP tables rule.

WRT	Company Representative	Feb 17, 11, 11:56PM \| #3
Joined: Sep 29, 09 Threads: 14 Posts: 1,850	Blocking Kenya: https://www.countryipblocks.net/e_country_data/KE_range.txt

Justus		Feb 18, 11, 01:56AM \| #4
Joined: Dec 4, 10 Posts: 33	WRT: ban the country IP This might not be possible.

Justus		Feb 18, 11, 02:03AM \| #5
Joined: Dec 4, 10 Posts: 33	I just wanted you to recognize and value the other side of the coin. So that you cease underrating us, abusing us, screaming at the top of your voices that you are native speakers. Some Kenyans might be bad or worse but not all. Do not blanket the whole issue by stating that you're native speakers and should top the writing industry.

WRT	Company Representative	Feb 18, 11, 02:41AM \| #6
Joined: Sep 29, 09 Threads: 14 Posts: 1,850	If you think it impossible to ban country IP's you are a fool. As for the banning of Kenyan writers, it will happen. You have none but yourself and your fellow wannabe Kenyan writers to blame. Some ESL writers are beyond superb - the Kenyans are not amongst them. Look - we do not want you as writers and you, quite obviously, believe that we are using and abusing you. Solution - establish a network of Kenyan sites. Yeah ... we're all trembling. While I am completely against the fine system, I can see why AR, EW, etc are fining you. Well, they shouldn't be hiring you in the first place. One of them, at least, is getting rid of it's Kenyan writers. To that I say 'good riddance ....'

Justus		Feb 18, 11, 02:52AM \| #7
Joined: Dec 4, 10 Posts: 33	WRT: One of them Why not all?

Justus		Edited by: Justus Feb 18, 11, 03:06AM \| #8
Joined: Dec 4, 10 Posts: 33	WRT: Let them open their own forums and websites. Yes, where we pay writers $15 per page and not $2.5 plus a fine of $15.

Justus		Edited by: Justus Feb 18, 11, 04:35AM \| #9
Joined: Dec 4, 10 Posts: 33	WRT: the Kenyans are not amongst them. Doing away with the mother-hen after eating the egg! Isn't this weird? Let it happen. WE WILL NOT GO DOWN ON OUR KNEES WITH MEANINGLESS REQUESTS, FORGET.

smirk		Feb 18, 11, 05:54AM \| #10
Joined: Dec 17, 10 Posts: 165	WRT: Fire all Kenyan writers! that's too cruel, i still cherish a hope that there're some professional kenyan writers with the understanding of business ethics. though i've never seen any tracks of their web presence, i still believe that they exist

WRT	Company Representative	Feb 18, 11, 05:55AM \| #11
Joined: Sep 29, 09 Threads: 14 Posts: 1,850	Justus: Why not all? All will. Justus: Yes, where we pay writers $15 per page and not $2.5 plus a fine of $15. Go ahead. Justus: Doing away with the mother-hen after eating the egg! Isn't this weird? Let it happen. WE WILL NOT GO DOWN ON OUR KNEES WITH MEANINGLESS REQUESTS, FORGET. Use English if you want a response. As it is, I have no idea what you're trying to say. Something about chickens, hens, eggs ... Have you considered working at EssayBrunch?

smirk		Feb 18, 11, 06:19AM \| #12
Joined: Dec 17, 10 Posts: 165	WRT: One of them, at least, is getting rid of it's Kenyan writers. Justus can you read? If EW is indeed getting rid of its kenyan writers, do you know why does this happen? this board is being monitored by the majority of companies, EW is no exclusion. you have come here to sell the accounts. you've been actively participating in the flame, exposing clearly your location. to prevent this, EW is shutting down the accounts of all kenyan writers. so you've just done harm to your own desperate compatriots, who used to rely on this shabby job. still consider yourself a hero?

WRT	Company Representative	Feb 18, 11, 07:00AM \| #13
Joined: Sep 29, 09 Threads: 14 Posts: 1,850	Kenyans Trying to Purchase Academia-Research Accounts Here's the thread Wish to 'rent' one account for academia-research.com

WRT	Company Representative	Edited by: WRT Feb 18, 11, 07:18AM \| #14
Joined: Sep 29, 09 Threads: 14 Posts: 1,850	Multiple instances of Kenyan writers buying and selling accounts and, as several companies know, they actively engage in customer-theft. Yes, we know your strategy. With your writing skills, EW was overpaying you and AR was being overly generous. You bit the hand that fed you and are now questioning why none want you in this industry? Aside from terrible writing skills, highly questionable work ethics and client-theft, you are not to be trusted. Why should an industry-wide blacklisting of Kenyan writers bother you? After all, you and other Kenyan writers claimed that we would all collapse without you. So, open your sites and drive us out of business. You are so damn clueless! You need to rob writer panels because you've no notion of the entire setup. What about the various other backend panels? Who's going to give you access to those? As far as this industry is concerned, Kenyan writers will soon be history.

Mtibe		Feb 18, 11, 08:59AM \| #15
Joined: Aug 20, 10 Posts: 4	WRT, With all due respect when did the behaviour of 3 or 5 persona act as yardstick to evaluate the performance of 10,000 or more people? Does that mean because India has countless number of "fraudsters" we should therefore brand Indians as unfit and probably regard all of them as unscrupulous fellows. Wont that be selective and biased decision based on subjective decisions which in part have discriminatory undertones. I am a Kenyan and Proud to be so and have excellent academic records alongside others in millions(numbers). I have worked and am still working with writing firms who remunerate well and others who exploit. I also happen to have a number of clients in UK and US who i engage directly with them and have been satisfied with my output for a number of years. I am not alone rather we are in thousands those who value hard-work and transparency. Its therefore very sad to hear a person of your caliber( an old and regular member of this site ) condemning a whole society because of 2 or 10. Those who purport to sell accounts/buy accounts are driven by their own personal desire and probably are poor in their writing skills but implying that all Kenyans have been banned will be banned e.t.c is nothing but personal hatred and somehow racist. Kenya has one of the best education system in the region and has countless distinguished scholars in UK, US and several developed nations. A number of international universities e.t.c have their branches here and in fact hundreds of thousands of graduates got their education abroad e.t.c and millions are working in both developing and developing world and very creative and hardworking. I am not saying we don't have deficiencies , we have like others.The world is converging cultures integrating and leaving with the notion of exclusivity and superiority is only left to a group of people who fail to accept the realities of life. The few(2 or 5) who sell their accounts e.t.c cannot justify your blanket condemnation of a whole society, they maybe evil but but because they are here(in the forum) displaying their ignorance e.t.c does not mean thousands of others do the same thing. Its very sad to be displaying racist undertones using disguise of 2-5 people. Those several kenyans involved in selling/buying maybe be only 10 who are active in blogs and sites, and from the evidence seen here the same guys for buying and selling accounts keep repeating themselves. Any industry is wise and banks on individual ability not group ability. Its therefore misleading to say all sites will wipe out kenyan writers because of 3 or 10 writers, what about the majority who satisfy their clients and maintain quality and do not engage in funny or stupid behaviours, should they be wiped out too from writing?? Should we then do the same for india..and many nations e.t.c??? Would Kindly Urge your conscience to make objective decisions even if quarreling with 2 people.

WRT	Company Representative	Edited by: WRT Feb 18, 11, 09:15AM \| #16
Joined: Sep 29, 09 Threads: 14 Posts: 1,850	No, am not condemning an entire people or society. However, the actions of dozens of Kenyan writers justifies the 'better be safe than sorry,' route. UVOcorp Allwriting Academia-Research Essaywriters.net ResearchWritingCenter hire(d) Kenyan writers. What was the outcome? The buying and selling of accounts, stealing clients (email addresses in doc properties and sometimes inserted into the work itself), and childish tantrums on public forums. Reverse racism is what we are facing. It is no longer possible to trust Kenyan writers; too risky. Don't blame me and others for the call for an industry-wide ban on Kenyan writers; blame your fellow Kenyan writers. I am sorry that some good and honest Kenyan writers are going to pay the price for this but we have a right to protect ourselves.

WRT	Company Representative	Feb 18, 11, 10:42AM \| #17
Joined: Sep 29, 09 Threads: 14 Posts: 1,850	smirk: that's too cruel, i still cherish a hope that there're some professional kenyan writers with the understanding of business ethics. though i've never seen any tracks of their web presence, i still believe that they exist I know what you mean but the risk factor ... BTW - as I've repeatedly emphasised (as have other respected members of this forum), there are many superb ESL writers. So, this post has nothing to do with ESL writers (but customers must be told that their work is being handled by an ESL writer - transparency is the key).

WritersBeware		Feb 18, 11, 11:02AM \| #18
Joined: Apr 19, 07 Threads: 152 Posts: 8,678	Mtibe, your writing is also quite terrible. The problem is that you don't even know it.

Maxwell2011		Feb 18, 11, 11:39AM \| #19
Joined: Feb 18, 11 Threads: 3 Posts: 16	I love the way WRT hide and pretends to take a moral ground. If WRT you are a writer, have you ever asked what you do to earn your money? That people who even are PHD students graduate with dishonest work? Do you think this is right, that as a writer you participate in this? Please stop pretending that you are morally better than others because they are selling accounts. Whichever justification that you have for what you do, I am sure that you know it is not right. That a student presents an academic paper done by another person, including defending a PHD paper that they well know it is not their work. This is outright criminal!!! and you participate in it. I have worked for a number of companies and I was shocked that the writers will get back to you to inform you that they got A's and they will be requesting in the future work from you. Also customers prefer using one writer in a number of essays so that they are not detected and their work does not appear different. Also when seeking revision they will go forward and send you the lecturer's remarks on the work. Whichever way you want to view it, whether I am selling an account and you are writing work that makes people graduate we are all the same, Criminals. Provided no one is caught.

editor75		Feb 18, 11, 12:42PM \| #20
Joined: Dec 18, 10 Threads: 6 Posts: 999	"Kenyan-- don't let the sun set on you in this town." get the tar and feathers!

WRT	Company Representative	Feb 18, 11, 12:50PM \| #21
Joined: Sep 29, 09 Threads: 14 Posts: 1,850	Most all, except the person you're addressing, know the real quote and its context. A bit racist, wouldn't you say? Yes, you used 'K' instead of 'N,' but it's all the same. Goes to show how that sick mind of yours works.

rwaimba2		Edited by: rwaimba2 Feb 18, 11, 02:17PM \| #22
Joined: Nov 18, 10 Posts: 22	Equally as the owners have a right to protect themselves, they have an obligation to ensure security of personal information of their writers. I will clarify later.

pheelyks	Writer	Feb 18, 11, 03:00PM \| #23
Joined: Jan 20, 09 Threads: 8 Posts: 3,836	rwaimba2: I will clarify later. Given your English issues, I sincerely doubt it.

WritersBeware		Edited by: WritersBeware Feb 18, 11, 07:53PM \| #24
Joined: Apr 19, 07 Threads: 152 Posts: 8,678	rwaimba2: I will clarify later. pheelyks: Given your English issues, I sincerely doubt it. Classic . . . .

rwaimba2		Feb 18, 11, 09:33PM \| #25
Joined: Nov 18, 10 Posts: 22	I know there's a comma missing after equally. But, I am not sure which is more of a folly; not inserting a comma, or insisting on commas on a forum. The latter is a classic form of being devoid of content.

WritersBeware		Feb 18, 11, 11:32PM \| #26
Joined: Apr 19, 07 Threads: 152 Posts: 8,678	rwaimba2: I know there's a comma missing after equally. Wow, I'm so relieved so that you discovered the "only" problem.

pheelyks	Writer	Feb 19, 11, 12:53AM \| #27
Joined: Jan 20, 09 Threads: 8 Posts: 3,836	rwaimba2: more of a folly; not Semi-colons separate independent clauses. rwaimba2: The latter is a classic form of being devoid of content. No it isn't. YOU are a classic form of being devoid of content. Or, in a less painful sentence, YOU are a classic example of a lack of content.

solution		Feb 19, 11, 03:45AM \| #28
Joined: Feb 19, 11 Posts: 13	I love this-"Why do you boast, you Americans? If Kenyans rule you, write for you, use you and so on, who are professors?"

eric85		Feb 19, 11, 04:06AM \| #29
Joined: Feb 19, 11 Posts: 13	WRT: Website owners: stop hiring Kenyan writers. Not only are they ingrates who are undeserving of the opportunity provided them, but they detest and disrespect us. They open multiple accounts with single companies, sell accounts, deny receipt of payment, provide trash in lieu of work and, quite honestly, their work is a poor reflection upon sly of us. Let's not forget that they steal customers by inserting their contact info within the text of uploaded orders or in the doc property. Don't forget that their educational system and their cultural references/worldview are very very different from those of our clients. Don't lose sight of the fact that their English is horrid, that they plagiarise and, in general terms, have very questionable work ethics. Do not hire Kenyan writers. Let them open their one websites. Do not give them access to your writer panels or allow them to gain insight into how we conduct business. Fire all Kenyan writers! Many have already done so and even EW is no longer hiring Kenyans. Mods - do not allow them the opportunity to scam customers through either essayscam or essaychat - ban the country IP. Let them open their own forums and websites. It's AMAZING how everyone is going crazy about Kenyan writers. A "classic" case of idle Americans

Mtibe		Feb 19, 11, 07:15AM \| #30
Joined: Aug 20, 10 Posts: 4	There are rational arguments to defend racism, jingoism or perceived superiority but unfortunately the same characters fanning those vices are always diverting sensible arguments using vague and incomprehensible pretexts like language flaws , country of origin e.t.c. Rather than focusing on the content of the argument , flimsy reasons are given to justify their naivety. I remember that my tutor always said that dismantling the argument of a racist is like shooting fish in a barrel. The point of argument is about condemnation of a whole society using baseless theories. I have given examples of common misconceptions about specific societies i.e Indians and Africans by zealots who exist in a self-denial environment. Threatening Kenyan writers in a blog because of the actions of 3 or 4 people is nothing but personal fantasy. I doubt any sober company will make a decision based on the conduct of less than 1% of the workforce. I could sum up the argument as a fallacy. Fallacious argument are very common on this board and sometimes they seem to be appealing and of sense if a person does not understand the content of the argument. Diversionary tactics ,distortions et al..will be used to justify one point rather than viewing the argument in broader context. Hasty generalizations of a whole community can be traced back to discriminatory behaviours. I dont think any kenyan or indian or any other person in that matter should be worried because of 3 people, or a blog threatening 10,000 hardworking fellows. Essaywriters, AcademiaResearch e.t.c the scam type group has hundreds of kenyan writers and also genuine companies and individual students/clients..and the companies/individuals will continue as long their satisfaction is guaranteed , this does not mean that a few may misbehave. I cant pinpoint that you are a racist with other folks but the undertones are visible. If a particular person in the forum is nuisance to your existence then deal with him individual rather than exposing your inner true colours. Criminality cannot defended by counter-accusations, i condemn strongly with all possible terms the behavior of individuals selling and buying accounts and equally those who aid students to falsely graduate with external efforts.

rwaimba2		Feb 19, 11, 07:31AM \| #31
Joined: Nov 18, 10 Posts: 22	pheelyks: independent clauses ...and "explanatory" clauses, according to you, are NOT independent clauses. I was inclined on inquiring what set of English tools you possess - American, British, or a combination. But, hey, I guess you come from where they find fault in this: "If anybody has a problem with my English, let them not hire my services."

Leonard		Feb 19, 11, 08:11AM \| #32
Joined: Feb 19, 11 Threads: 1 Posts: 2	What you need to understand is that Kenyans are more educated than you people. You put your trust in what we do. In-fact with our writings, we have made some of you to be doctors and professors, who talk loudly, with furry signifying nothing. We still own you people. YOU WILL CONTINUE TO SCAM, BUT TIME COMING. WE WILL ALSO SCAM YOUR MASTERS AND PHDs. You are boasting and even the U.S. president is from Kenya. He rules you and makes you bow down for him. As so long as the man Obama will be the president, we Kenyans will dominate the industry. I know you can't do without us. If you continue to scam us, we will make all the students using your sites to fail their PHD and masters. try us, you scammers.

EW_writer		Feb 19, 11, 08:18AM \| #33
Joined: Jul 2, 07 Threads: 27 Posts: 2,239	Leonard: we will make all the students using your sites to fail their PHD and masters. Err.. haven't they fired all of you already? o.O

editor75		Feb 19, 11, 08:28AM \| #34
Joined: Dec 18, 10 Threads: 6 Posts: 999	I'd like to apologize for my "don't let the sun set on you" comment above. I was being sarcastic about the forum regulars banning Kenyan IPs. I know the internet's not the best place for sarcasm, not only because idiots tend to take everything so seriously, but also, because there's no allowance for deadpan or tonal variation. I think that this board should welcome everyone who enters with a constructive spirit, no matter where they're from.

Prix		Feb 19, 11, 10:06AM \| #35
Joined: Feb 19, 11 Posts: 7	Mtibe, thank you

pheelyks	Writer	Feb 19, 11, 10:12AM \| #36
Joined: Jan 20, 09 Threads: 8 Posts: 3,836	rwaimba2: pheelyks: independent clauses ...and "explanatory" clauses, according to you, are NOT independent clauses I never said anything like that. Explanatory clauses can be independent, but they aren't necessarily so. When they aren't, a semi-colon is incorrect. rwaimba2: I guess you come from where they find fault in this: "If anybody has a problem with my English, let them not hire my services." I don't find fault with your meaning, but your word usage in the second clause has some problems. Leonard: Kenyans are more educated than you people. Well that's not an obviously insane generalization. It makes perfect sense that Kenya, with an adult population that has an average of 4.2 years of schooling each, has a more educated population than anyone else. Leonard: You put your trust in what we do No, we don't. Only a few morons who shouldn't be in higher education anyway or EFL students whose English skills are even worse than your own actually think your services are worthwhile. Leonard: He rules you and makes you bow down for him That's not how things work in a democracy, and right now Obama isn't very popular at all. You guys do get things like Yahoo News in your country, right? Leonard: As so long as the man Obama will be the president, we Kenyans will dominate the industry 1. The President has nothing to do with essay industry 2. You don't dominate the industry--being able to scam a few hundred or even a few thousand customers doesn't somehow make you the industry leader 3. You're a moron Leonard: we will make all the students using your sites to fail their PHD and masters. Luckily, the people you are talking to generally work for companies that don't hire Kenyans in the first place, so we don't have to worry about your empty threats. Good luck getting paid!

WritersBeware		Feb 19, 11, 10:50AM \| #37
Joined: Apr 19, 07 Threads: 152 Posts: 8,678	Mtibe: The point of argument is about condemnation of a whole society using baseless theories. Really? Where's your evidence that that's what happening in this forum? Funny—I can provide numerous quotes in which pheelyks, WRT, me, and others clearly state the exact opposite. Perhaps, you should learn how to read instead of blindly defending your fraudulent brothers simply because you happen to share the same soil?

rwaimba2		Edited by: rwaimba2 Feb 19, 11, 10:52AM \| #38
Joined: Nov 18, 10 Posts: 22	pheelyks: I never said anything like that. Then try finding how to make two "stand-alone" sentences (with subject verb and object) from my earlier phrase. If you cannot, I may never be at a position to assist you. pheelyks: but your word usage in the second clause has some problems I knew you would have problems with the "singular-plural" aspect. I would be really disappointed...oops, even in this case, if you were to miss that.

WritersBeware		Feb 19, 11, 10:56AM \| #39
Joined: Apr 19, 07 Threads: 152 Posts: 8,678	The following usernames based in Kenya are associated with the same, fraudulent company in Kenya: eric85 Justus Leonard Maxwell2011 Mtibe Prix rwaimba2 solution Mod, how about that IP block?

WritersBeware		Feb 19, 11, 11:26AM \| #40
Joined: Apr 19, 07 Threads: 152 Posts: 8,678	rwaimba2: be at a position One is not "at" a position. One is "in" a position. There's nothing more humorous than an idiot trying to teach.

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