I want to start an argument between the two types of writers that someone might encounter during the process of their "right" custom-essay services.

ESL writer w/ highly proficient Academic skills:

Currently, United States is actually hiring different professionals across the globe due to their wide academic backgrounds and flexibility of skills, especially those from Philippines wherein English is the secondary language. The abilities of these ESLs are most of the time more analytic, critical and highly-innovative than those Americans. ESL writers, due to the hardship and tensions of their countries, have actually developed multi-specialization to various fields of academic world. In addition, since the professional or labor pay in their country is definitely low, these multi-experienced professionals are most of the time willing to write papers at a cost of $10-15/page.

American writers:

American writers have attained a certain stereotype in which they are viewed as the most highly intelligent beings in the world. However, these people are just the undeniable primary starters of the universal language but they cannot specialize in the vast fields of knowledge (e.g. medical field going to computer studies, naahhh). If in case someone can, I don't think they will even give a damn in using their academic backgrounds and experience to write a bunch of student papers. Of course, they will use their hard-earned experience to more rewarding tasks.

This topic has been beaten to death. I will give you quick answers.


If an ESL writer delivers product that is void of the general errors that are common to ESL writers, then he/she is qualified to write for American clients. HOWEVER, the fact of the matter is that the overwhelming majority of ESL writers who work in the ESSAY INDUSTRY are NOT the level of ESL writer whom the average, American customer would knowingly hire. The problem is with the foreign scam sites that intentionally lie to American consumers about how "all" of their writers are "American, PhD holders."


Any writer--even those native to the United States--may be unqualified to write for American consumers. Any writer--from any region--is capable of being an idiot. Legitimate, honest companies in America do NOT hire American idiots. Similarly, honest companies in America do not hire UNQUALIFIED, ESL writers and pass them off as high-cost-worthy, "Americans with PhD degrees from American universities." American customers deserve NEITHER unqualified, ESL writers NOR American idiots.

American clients deserve the truth--nothing more, nothing less.

Absolutely right and I definitely agree with you WB. Most essay company sites live up with their fraud statements that they have these high proficient writers whether ESL or Americans.





Another points to consider and definitely true.

Hence, considering all the points handed down by WB, essay firm should be honest on the credibility of their writers. This include hiring TRULY efficient writers, either ESL or AMERICANS, and placing a certain verification statement or PROOF that their writers are 100% proficient in both English and Academic skills.


However, for the sake of the argument, these are another possible points to consider:

1. As consumers or clients, how do we verify the TRUTH in terms of the credibility of the company's advertisement regarding their writers?

2. As a writing agency, how do we provide an actual proof that our writers are definitely credible and able to write good papers without actually compromising the name of our firm? In addition, how do we provide proofs that will not be entertained with skeptical approach from the side of both clients and other essay company?

2. Lastly, due to the prevailing stereotypes within the field of essay writing services in terms of ESL vs. Americans, there is a wider possibility that essay firms employing PROVED and VERIFIED proficient ESLs will encounter depressed market returns if they reveal the truth about their writers. If you are an essay agency owner, how will you consider solving this issue?

Wow, your post isn't biased.
So ESL writers can specialize in a variety of different fields but American writers can't.
And American writers are losers who should be doing better things but ESL writers are less expensive and better! Really!
And the U.S. is the birthplace of the world's universal language? Not Great Britain? And the SS twins haven't chimed in yet? I'm shocked.

Your post is nothing but assertions with no data and a clear attempt to promote ESL writers over Americans based upon stereotypes. So how many ESL writers do you know that you used to form your conclusions? How about American writers? Was there a survey passed around that I somehow missed?

Is this an argument? You're an ass. Attempting to pass off opinion as fact is low.

PS - I'm American, hold three degrees in three completely different areas and I write b/c it pays me more than the average salary made by professors in the U.S. (feel free to look up the data), I have the freedom to travel while working (on a vacation outside of the US now but still working) and I enjoy writing.

Well, actually, I do apologize for the offensive points Ms. Lavinia. You are right when you said that these are assumptions with no clear data to based on; however, there are certain truths in the arguments of my last posts.




I am pertaining to the two categories of American intelligent groups. First, intelligent American groups who will rather not waste their time in doing research paper because it pays less than the higher forms of opportunities in store for them. Second, intelligent American groups who prefer writing as a sideline since the profit returns are at least $60 to 70 per page (rush order).

On the positive note, the second category of American writers are quite less compared to the number of ESL writers out there, which will definitely add to the standard profit earnings of these writers since they are few in the society of essay writing services.

However, the disadvantaged side is most of Americans are not well suited for research writing, and some may try but end up not being proficient in writing essays.

Bottom line, Americans - low number of writers, costly, risky since not all can write good papers, but can really provide REAL PREMIUM papers.

On the side of ESL writers (let's be specific to Filipino writers), let's approximate a standard ratio of 1:10 for every proficient writer versus non-pro, which is actually a huge difference compared to the number of American writers.

In addition, due to the earnings of Filipinos in the Philippines, they will surely consider writing even for a cost of $30-$60 per page (rush), which is definitely cost-saving than with American writers.

In terms of proficiency, Filipinos are indeed ESLs but their English is even recognized by Americans (definitely undeniable). They also have good academic backgrounds and unsurprisingly being hired worldwide due to their skills and low labor costs. So far, Filipinos are the only ESL writers who are able to provide me with good papers

However, the disadvantage side is the saturation of other ESL writers (Indian, pakistani, etc.) have blurred the image of proficient ESL writers. In addition, the number of proficient ESL writers are very very very small.

Bottom line, ESL writers - low number of proficient writers who can write good papers, low cost, risky unless surely verified, and can also write PREMIUM quality papers.


With the summary of both writers, which one do you think is better?

Think you might find that you are wrong in the origins of the English language inquirer. Check out the below link for the history of the English language. I thinl you will find that English originated in England lol

http://www.englishclub.com/english-language-history.htm

I think he means that the version of English that foreign countries tend to teach is the American version.

American. If for no other reason, an American writer understands and can properly articulate the intricacies of American culture, current affairs, vernacular, etc.

That is peculiar. That is claiming that an imitator is better than the original. Cannot believe this.

What? Please read the posts carefully. You're obviously confused.

Think you are the one who is confused. The world knows that the British English is the best and it has to be so.

PULL
YOUR
HEAD
OUT!

I responded with "American" to the following question from "Inquirer":

"With the summary of both writers, which one do you think is better?"

Now, do you UNDERSTAND?

Oh, sorry! I really don't find the time to read the posts. I keep envying you all.

That must make the English even more difficult to learn then it already is especially if an ESL writer is then going to write for a British student. The spelling of many words differs from the American version to the British version as does the grammar.

Americans -






Yes, these statements have undeniable correct points.



For you StugglingStudent, we are actually considering a topic: American Writers versus ESL writers. I think it is obvious that what I am trying to imply is American English. In consideration to the topic and also the trends, there are more American clients looking for essay services than those British people. I can base that in my experience as a writer.

For the sake of continuing the argument and balancing the boat,

(First Issue)

Americans may indeed possess the GRAND mastery of American (for the sake of Struggling Student (:>) ) English language; however, in your opinion, are there sufficient American writers to cover all the needs of essay writing clients considering these factors:

1. Saturation of non-proficient ESL writers
2. High cost of American services
3. Less number of American writers due to the vast high earning opportunities available for intelligent individuals and high collar professions, such as doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc.

(Second Issue)

Considering an ESL writing company that employs really PROFICIENT ESL writers (maybe due to the low labor costs of these individuals) but hides the identities of their writers, do you think exposing the identities of the writers will compromise the income of the company and ESL writers due to the higher preference towards American writers?

If American writers are indeed more preferable than ESL writers, do you think it is just appropriate for ESL writing companies to hide their identity from the consumers for the sake of marketing purposes and the survival their firms?

I really fail to understand this whole issue of ESL and writers from poor countries.

I mean how does the quality of work depend upon the fact whether a person belongs to a poor country or a rich country!

A person from a poor country can be more efficient and capable or even richer than someone from the so-called richer countries.

I think that writing companies must stop using these types of statements as "our writers are from English speaking countries"

how and why should it matter as long as there is efficiency and accuracy of work.

If the so-called english speaking country students were so proficient and capable, why the hell would the companies all over the world thrive due to business out-sourcing, especially to the so-called poor countries.

There is recession in almost all of the english speaking countries today?
Why?
Simply because the youth and the generation is incapable and wastes more time in trying to insult people in anywhich ways possible.

Its high time the approach is changed from "who is from which country" to "who is good at work and deserves to win!"

There is more to life than making comments about people's place of origin, financial status and first language.
Its time to move ahead and accept our weaknesses while realizing other people's strengths.
Its time to move on...............
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?????????????????????

I totally agree with you. Read your post from beginning to end.

Kindly read the whole posts for you to understand the given points. Based from your statements above, it seems that you don't even grasp the points of the argument.

Your environment will affect your success in life. Try researching on strain theory, nightingale's theory, etc. You will see that environment, setting, origin, and the available opportunities in a given setup can greatly influence once future in life.

"We are not an island and human beings always have to depend on each other"

Try using the above statement for some reasonable logic. Your statements above are pure idealism and definitely not applicable in the 21st century sir. I am living in a third world country as a foreign anthropologists and I know how good and intelligent people here are hindered by the insufficiencies of opportunities. See for yourself if you want proofs.

Good for you guys you didn't came from a third world country with highly corrupt department of education and government.

There are lots of good Filipino ESL writers here. In fact, they have been branded as the tiger of asia and the Second largest FLUENTLY speaking nation in 1990s. Its a shame they are not attaining enough opportunities to show their capabilities to the world. In addition, there are exponentially increasing FAKE ESLs that tarnish the good name and proficiency of credible ESLs.

Yes, it may appear biased, but this is only my opinion for the above post. I am not setting up an argument here, but I am answering an argument so I guess I deserve the opportunity to place my sides.

Let's say I am an owner of a writing agency and you are the consumer. I have two available writers here with the same academic proficiency and English fluency: (1) American for $60 per page, and (2) Filipino ESLs for $30 per page.

Which one will you choose?



Hypothetically, 90% will prefer the American writer despite of the cost and leave the ESL as the last option. What do you think?