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earlybird84
Reg: May 10, 07
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 May 10, 07, 06:03PM    ¦ #121

I've not seen anyone else here who writes for these companies.
I have no idea if the people running this are trust-worthy or not, I'm in a similar position- I won't have lost any money but I will have wasted a lot of time on someone else's work instead of my own.
I'm a 2nd year Cambridge student, I've only written one essay for this kind of service (though I hope to write more). I worked very hard on it, I think it was better than the requested standard, but I haven't been paid yet so maybe I was scammed. Which is a shame, because I could do with £70 or so, whilst whoever commissioned it must have too much money kicking around. They only commissioned a 2;2 standard essay, they might as well have done it for themselves.
Why do people buy essays? Surely you can't alter them afterwards without reading the sources anyway, which if you planned to do you'd write it yourself. People buying masters and dissertations seem cheeky but I suppose fair play, for the money you spend you're probably very likely to make it back in whatever job you get as a result of the qualification. Though on some more fundamental point I wonder a bit why people want to go to university if they're content with coming away without the knowledge, they may well just fall on their arses in whatever job they get as a result- if you get employed on the basis you can produce top-standard written work quickly they'll need to learn fast or get very left behind.

Torchwood
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 May 11, 07, 10:38AM    ¦ #122

Quoting: earlybird84, Post #121
People buying masters and dissertations seem cheeky but I suppose fair play, for the money you spend you're probably very likely to make it back in whatever job you get as a result of the qualification.


Why is it fair play for people to buy Masters and PhD dissertations?

People buying full dissertations worries me more than students buying the occasional essay.

If your tutor had bought his or her Master's or PhD degree dissertation from an essay company and submitted it as their own, would you feel it was fair play to them (and you) that they got their position and salary on the basis of a bought piece of work?

Plagiarism is not cheeky. It is fraud.

earlybird84
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 May 11, 07, 05:02PM    ¦ #123

Firstly, it is not plagarism of my property, the work is copyrighted to the essay writing service, which is their purpose. It is dishonest, that's not really been in question anywhere on this website as far as I can see, the only comments made are why people basically feel that it's ok in their case. It's not for me to judge, I could work in any number of ways to make money and this seems a far more effective one than the minimum wage jobs I've done every holiday. If they get found out they'll obviously be in a bad situation, but it's not my judgement if their dishonesty is so wrong.

Secondly, 'fair play' and 'cheeky' were obviously used in a conversational style. Maybe that kind of work would help them more than the occasional essay, but what will come of it? People can advance themselves in all sorts of ways with money, if they are not up to the resulting jobs then they won't get far, and if they are intelligent enough but were too lazy at university then while the work was fraudulent it was not entirely misrepresentative of what their abilities might be. I fail to understand why people but the 'occasional essay', I suppose if missed deadlines will endanger their degree then it makes sense, but commissioning a 2:2 standard essay to be done in 6 days (which is what I did) seems hard to justify- that is ample time to produce a work of that standard, and if they are unable to produce the work for a valid reason then it should be valid enough to present to the university ie. family concerns, ill health etc. There are obviously exceptions that can be found, but I'm sure a lack of effort must feature.
And with respect to possible future jobs it seems very unlikely an aspiring academic would buy their work, and were they to, I doubt they'd find work at any credible university (I think I'm justified in my belief that the Cambridge supervisors and lecturers I have encountered did not buy their PhD's online, or if they did I hope they can also show me the sites where they will write you academic research, books and teach you how to appear to know the information).
It is fraud, and I would never do it, but I am in no position to judge anyone doing it, especially as they are paying me for a service.

julie24963
Reg: May 3, 07
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 May 11, 07, 05:21PM    ¦ #124

I agree with earlbird that it is totally unethical and wrong for students to request these essays and then pass them off as their own

Maybe I should set up a set just for online tuition and essay writing guidance as well as proof reading :lol: could still make a good profit and charge loads less than these essay writing sites. I sometimes wonder who runs this forum as there are certain essay writing sites that don't seem to get a mention and I am sure that they don't have 100% totally satisfied customers. Maybe this forum is run by one of them to knock all the other essay writing sites. It wouldn't be dificult for an essay writing site to set something up like that.

One site I did like for essays is www.essays-r-us.co.uk as they offer essays as research papers only so that students can get an idea of how to write a good standard essay. They are also linked to a site called www.law-tuition.co.uk which gives online law tuition. I have never heard anyone on here making bad comments about it so maybe they are doing something right :lol:

Dylan
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| Edited by: Dylan May 12, 07, 08:42AM    ¦ #125

Quoting: julie24963, Post #124
One site I did like for essays is essays-r-us.co.uk as they offer essays as research papers only so that students can get an idea of how to write a good standard essay. They are also linked to a site called law-tuition.co.uk which gives online law tuition. I have never heard anyone on here making bad comments about it so maybe they are doing something right :lol:


The www.essays-r-us.co.uk website would make me run a mile ...

- No company registration details - which they have to declare on the website if they are a UK registered company. I personally would not place an order with any UK essay business that wasn't a UK registered company.

- No postal address - just telephone numbers and an e-mail address - again, if they are a UK registered company their registered address has to be displayed on the website. I personally would never do business with any individual or company who did not openly declare their trading address on their website.

- A whois look-up gives the owner as an individual: Dorit Chomer, 14 Holly Park Gardens, Finchley, London N3 3NJ

- A quick google on the owner gives a BBC online article in which Dorit Chomer brags that her service allows lazy students to sit around in bars rather than write essays (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4445357.stm) and admits that her service "belittles the whole education system". I find this attitude unsettling and unpleasant.

- Dorit Chomer brags in the BBC article that she sells 500-1,000 essays a week with prices starting at £50, which does make me think that she should probably be registered as a company and probably also registered for VAT (if she is registered for VAT then I think the VAT registration number is also supposed to be declared on the website).

PS Dorit, if you are reading this: your domain has expired.

Torchwood
Reg: Jan 2, 07
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 May 12, 07, 10:29AM    ¦ #126

Quoting: earlybird84, Post #123
And with respect to possible future jobs it seems very unlikely an aspiring academic would buy their work, and were they to, I doubt they'd find work at any credible university (I think I'm justified in my belief that the Cambridge supervisors and lecturers I have encountered did not buy their PhD's online, or if they did I hope they can also show me the sites where they will write you academic research, books and teach you how to appear to know the information).


The point I was making in my earlier post is that buying the occasional essay, while still cheating if the essay is submitted as ones own, is unlikely to affect the overall degree result as all 'credible' universities require undergraduate students to pass rigorous examinations which will determine the degree award and classification.

I feel that there is a particular problem if students are buying full dissertations as students may have enough knowledge to pass their viva voce, but are gaining a qualification based almost entirely on the written (purchased) product. These students may then go on to take up positions in universities where they are responsible for guiding the research efforts of others, which I find repugnant.

I was contacted through this site by someone who needed help with her PhD thesis and who erroneously thought I might help her. Through subequent e-mail contact she told me that she was under pressure to submit, was currently lecturing and tutoring undergraduate students which she said left her little time to write, and had plans to take up a postdoctoral fellowship after graduating. I suggested that she took some leave or a sabbatical to focus on her thesis but later heard from her that she had found a writer. I truly hope that this was an isolated case.

Torchwood
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| Edited by: Torchwood May 12, 07, 11:04AM    ¦ #127

Quoting: julie24963, Post #124
One site I did like for essays is www.essays-r-us.co.uk
Quoting: julie24963, Post #124
They are also linked to a site called www.law-tuition.co.uk
Quoting: julie24963, Post #124
I sometimes wonder who runs this forum as there are certain essay writing sites that don't seem to get a mention and I am sure that they don't have 100% totally satisfied customers. Maybe this forum is run by one of them to knock all the other essay writing sites. It wouldn't be dificult for an essay writing site to set something up like that.


Funny you should say that. I've long had the suspicion that some forum members make posts recommending particular essay sites over their competition without declaring what their interest is.

By the way, to save you looking, I've never recommended any essay company and only recommend that people do their own work.

earlybird84
Reg: May 10, 07
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 May 12, 07, 12:33PM    ¦ #128

It is a shame in the case of that PhD student, I imagine that students who tutor/supervise probably do find that time is tight- it seems though that the university should also be monitoring this more closely through their Director of Studies/Co-ordinator. It does seem however that this must be a less common phenomena- the service I have written for mainly seems to put up undergraduate essays, some masters, and the odd revision aid.
I understood that you were saying it would affect the end result more than a normal term-time essay, I was just reasoning that while this was obviously dishonest there was only so far this could take them (if their abilities weren't up to later jobs or positions). On a lesser scale, the education system is full of inequalities, from funding to personal concerns, all altering to some degree the individual's ability to gain qualifications.

julie24963
Reg: May 3, 07
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 May 12, 07, 05:24PM    ¦ #129

Quoting: Torchwood, Post #127
Funny you should say that. I've long had the suspicion that some forum members make posts recommending particular essay sites over their competition without declaring what their interest is.


If you are trying to insinuate that I have some ulterior motive in mentioning this site I don't. I have been looking for sites where I can sel model answers to as opposed to becoming a custom writer. I figured as I already have sold many suh model answers to universities (primarily Birmingham University) that it wouldn't hurt to sell them to one of the sites where they state that the essays are supposed to be for guidance only.

The way the essays are o that site where you could get several people buyng the same essay would mean that you would have to use it as a guideline. Least that was the way I read it- correct me if I'm wrong.

I can live with writing essays as guidelines- its only the same as a student borrowing a book or disertation paper from the library and using it as a reference point.

Dylan
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 May 13, 07, 04:20AM    ¦ #130

Quoting: julie24963, Post #129
If you are trying to insinuate that I have some ulterior motive in mentioning this site I don't. I have been looking for sites where I can sel model answers to as opposed to becoming a custom writer.


Maybe you could have just said you prefer to write for essay banks rather than custom essay companies. I don't think it was necessary to promote a particular site, particularly as it is both an essay bank and a custom essay company.There are other sites that are both essay banks and custom essay companies - there's nothing unique or more ethical about this one.

brandonj66
Reg: May 13, 07
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 May 13, 07, 07:48AM    ¦ #131

Could anyone tell me a company who does a service for assignments of Information Technology projects?

Thanks.

WritersBeware
Reg: Apr 19, 07
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 May 13, 07, 12:08PM    ¦ #132

No recommendations here can be trusted. Many of the "members" are paper mill owners.

pissedoff
Reg: May 31, 07
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 May 31, 07, 09:20AM    ¦ #133

just as long as you don't fall for essaywriters.net, i guess you're still fine. the company does not screen out its writers so quality is compromised. the better writers are leaving the company because they are not paid on time, if at all. i wrote for essaywriters.net for some time so i should know. i revised some articles that were rejected by customers; they were really bad. many of its customers just keep quiet.

pam
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 Jun 19, 07, 05:14AM    ¦ #134

winningmind,

Contact me at econsocio@yahoo.com. I can help you out with some of your papers. Please list your preferred sources.

Pam

WritersBeware
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 Jun 19, 07, 01:37PM    ¦ #135

No advertising!

sagehorse
Reg: Jun 25, 07
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 Jun 25, 07, 07:40PM    ¦ #136

Hello All,

I am a bit different than most of you, I think, because I am that PhD who has been writing for a very bad company. Projects1stClass.com

My story goes that I lost my job, live in rural area and then one of my kids wrecked our only car and I couldn't get another reliable car for the life of me, so I decided to write on the internet. I need the money.

The administrator comes across as professional, but all the projects are late when the researchers bid on them and then the bid doesn't get approved right away. So, when the researcher gets the project she is supposed to do it that day, but she is already working on other projects. The dates are all messed up, but the admin says don't worry about it, you'll get paid.

So I write these stellar papers and work my tail off and now he won't pay me. He owes me for 7 projects. I haven't been paid in a month. I am willing to admit that the last one was late because I got sick and it was a really long paper. The customer didn't complain very much, so I was okay with doing a great job. That is why his paper became the last, because he wasn't complaining. So many of the other customers complained. They didn't understand that I just got their assignments and hadn't even had a chance to do any research before they were screaming at me to finish them. All in all I think I did a great job.

From the beginning though he was a little weird about payment. He also complained about other researchers. Now he has sent me a letter addressed to another researcher, supposedly from last year, who he sued and won and she had to take a loan out to pay him back for money he lost from her being late on a paper!

He threatened to put my personal information on the web so I wouldn't get a job. He threatened to publish my papers and say I was a fraud. He threatened to ask my bank for the money back that he had already paid me, which wasn't much and he acted like I was hassling him.

This guy is a scam artist, as some people already know.

I got taken for over 2000 dollars. He twists and turns around the words of his policy and the law. This guy needs to be shut down fast.

If anyone else knows of any researchers who have been hurt by him, let me know.

WritersBeware
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 Jun 25, 07, 08:02PM    ¦ #137

Always do research before working for a site:

http://www.essayfraud.org/forum/index.php?showforum=46

sagehorse
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 Jun 25, 07, 08:13PM    ¦ #138

Yes, thank you WritersBeware. I didn't see these complaints before I started working for them.

The weird thing is that I have not found any other researchers yet, just customer complaints.

Please let me know if there is a place where the writers go. Thanks!

WritersBeware
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 Jun 25, 07, 08:51PM    ¦ #139


sagehorse
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 Jun 25, 07, 09:33PM    ¦ #140

Thanks I did a post.

Check it out...

http://www.essayfraud.org/forum/index.php?showforum=28

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