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Nov 25, 10, 04:18PM
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No recommendations please.
I want to hear from a graduate student, preferably a law school student, who has successfully found a service or writer who got the job done.
What steps did you take to find the right person? How did you ensure you were getting a custom paper? Is it appropriate to ask to see updates of research and rough draft as paper is written to ensure authenticity and to ensure the paper is going in the direction you want it to? How do you ensure the paper is not recycled afterwards?
Thanks...if you have any pointers other than the specifics I asked about please feel free to advise
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| FreelanceWriter |
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heynanners: I want to hear from a graduate student, preferably a law school student, who has successfully found a service or writer who got the job done.
I'm not a student but I do have a law degree.
heynanners: What steps did you take to find the right person?
The only thing you can really do is try a company or freelance writer based on referrals and then start with a short paper and a deadline with a cushion on your end in case of the worst case scenario.
heynanners: How did you ensure you were getting a custom paper?
All you can do is use Google and any plagiarism detection services to which you may have access.
heynanners: Is it appropriate to ask to see updates of research and rough draft as paper is written to ensure authenticity and to ensure the paper is going in the direction you want it to?
No. Those of us who write for a living really hate when clients email us days or weeks before a paper is due to ask "how's it coming" as though we spend weeks on every paper the way students sometimes have to. Unless it's a particularly complicated paper or close to 20 pages, we write them the same day they're due or maybe the day before. We don't write "rough drafts" and we write almost all of our papers in a single sitting (or maybe several sittings in the same day). It's up to you to give us the specs and there should be enough communication beforehand to ensure that your writer knows what you need. I hate when I have to respond to emails asking me how a paper is "coming along" a week before it's due when I'm still about 30 essays away from even looking at their material.
heynanners: How do you ensure the paper is not recycled afterwards?
Once you find someone you can trust enough to pre-pay for work you can probably also trust his word that your paper won't be recycled. I don't know that there's even any market for recycled papers now that anti-plagiarism scanners are widely used. On the other hand, I can't imagine why you'd care unless you mean recycled so soon that it makes into an anti-plagiarism database before your original does. Another thing that's slightly annoying is when the same clients who ask for several "samples" before they hire you are the ones who also ask for reassurance that you'll never send out their papers as "samples" in the future. Where do you think we get the "samples" that you requested before hiring us? I comply with those requests when I get them but it always crosses my mind when someone demands samples and reassurance that their papers won't ever be used as a sample.
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| WRT |
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Nov 25, 10, 11:41PM
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FW - very belatd Happy Thanksgiving
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Nov 25, 10, 11:48PM
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Thanks, I appreciate the sentiment, but I'm totally oblivious to all holidays and social rituals of any kind. Just a Thursday with football as far as I'm concerned and usually another work day like any other day. To me, there are 365 days in the year and they're all the same except for the weather and what's on TV.
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| WRT |
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Nov 26, 10, 12:42AM
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Unfortunately, FW, in our line of work, I totally understand what you are saying :(
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Nov 26, 10, 02:15AM
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Actually, in my case, it's the other way around: I've always felt that way about holidays long before I started doing this for a living, which makes this line of work ideal for me.
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| WRT |
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Nov 26, 10, 02:39AM
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FreelanceWriter: which makes this line of work ideal for me.
And you are excellent at what you do :)
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Dec 7, 10, 10:40PM
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Freelancewriter, I could really use some help being pointed in the right direction for someone with a law degree who can write about constitutional law for 8 pages max with no cites required. Sorry. I tried to send you a PM but I'm a new member.
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| AmonsEssays |
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Dec 8, 10, 10:35PM
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FreelanceWriter: I do disagree somewhat. If I have a paper due over time, I might give the customer a draft early on so they know I'm working on it. But otherwise, it is true that it is bad etiquette to pester your writer.
If you are concerned about it, OP, TELL the writer AT THE TIME OF NEGOTIATION that you want a draft at X time or a check-up at Y point in the project. Otherwise, you are breaking the implicit contract you have signed with them by contacting them.
As for samples we send out, Freelance: I send out samples of my own work, little stories and essays I've done for fun or other things. I NEVER send out another clients' work. I do agree, though, that prospective clients need to understand that we've done all we can. I write all I can in my website just so they know I can write.
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Dec 9, 10, 02:12AM
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AmonsEssays: FreelanceWriter: I do disagree somewhat. If I have a paper due over time, I might give the customer a draft early on so they know I'm working on it. But otherwise, it is true that it is bad etiquette to pester your writer.
That's a perfect plan if you still actually need to write "drafts"; I don't. I think about it a bit and/or do the necessary research, and then I just sit down and write the essay, spellcheck it, proofread it, and send it off. I've been doing this long enough and I'm good enough at it after thousands of essays that I don't need to write multiple "drafts" or "outlines" either. Never had anybody complain that my work was too "rough"; usually, the responses I get are more along the lines of "wow, I can't believe you can do this so fast." Seven years ago when I was new at this, I used to write drafts, print out final versions, and even wait a few hours before proofing them in hard-copy format. That was about 3,000 essays ago.
AmonsEssays: As for samples we send out, Freelance: I send out samples of my own work, little stories and essays I've done for fun or other things. I NEVER send out another clients' work. I do agree, though, that prospective clients need to understand that we've done all we can. I write all I can in my website just so they know I can write.
In my experience, prospective clients want academic samples in a similar style and on a similar topic to the work they need from me; they're not interested in my recreational writing. In any case, I'd never send anything more recent than about six months old. Why would anybody care about an essay that's already served its purpose and likely been scanned already by anti-plagiarism programs? If a client asks me not to, it goes into a different folder; otherwise, it may be used as a sample long after they've completed whatever course they wanted it for.
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Dec 9, 10, 04:29AM
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That's a perfect plan if you still actually need to write "drafts"; I don't. I think about it a bit and/or do the necessary research, and then I just sit down and write the essay, spellcheck it, proofread it, and send it off. I've been doing this long enough and I'm good enough at it after thousands of essays that I don't need to write multiple "drafts" or "outlines" either. Never had anybody complain that my work was too "rough"; usually, the responses I get are more along the lines of "wow, I can't believe you can do this so fast." Seven years ago when I was new at this, I used to write drafts, print out final versions, and even wait a few hours before proofing them in hard-copy format. That was about 3,000 essays ago.
I don't either, I tend to do everything in one go or maybe two and certainly don't have discrete drafting. But, as Isaac Asimov famously argued, everyone's different here. Shakespeare proclaimed that he never had to blot a word. Oscar Wilde, meanwhile, was satisfied with his day's work being adding, then removing, a semicolon.
Certainly, if the customer would like to see an initial draft before they commit to a particular thesis, interpretation or direction, that's not an unreasonable request, given ample time. But that needs to be disclosed at the time.
I personally adopt a policy of unlimited, free editing up until the due date. After that, well...
In my experience, prospective clients want academic samples in a similar style and on a similar topic to the work they need from me; they're not interested in my recreational writing. In any case, I'd never send anything more recent than about six months old. Why would anybody care about an essay that's already served its purpose and likely been scanned already by anti-plagiarism programs? If a client asks me not to, it goes into a different folder; otherwise, it may be used as a sample long after they've completed whatever course they wanted it for.
Yeah, it becomes very difficult when someone wants a paper that is not only a writing sample but also recent, within their field, etc. Where do they EXPECT one to get that? I personally have a few writing samples that were never turned into a plagiarism database and are kept private, but there's no way I can have every possible permutation of subject matter on hand. This is why I really prefer clients to talk to me at least three days before a project is due. It's also why, if a client is seeking out help a day or (Heaven forbid) an hour before a project is due, they have to follow the rule, "Caveat emptor". Sorry, but you just cannot reasonably expect a guarantee of fast, confidential, skillful work that matches your prompt and writing style precisely. Pick three or four of those objectives, not five.
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