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roverofrage   May 2, 09, 11:17AM | #1
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Hi dear friends, please tell me about 4writers.net, is it scam or not. good-writers.com is also part of 4writers.net or not.
swine   May 2, 09, 11:26AM | #2
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am also interested in knowing
humble   May 2, 09, 01:38PM | #3
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If you are interested in our services, then join us. You just need to fill up a simple Request Form with your qualifications and experience to join our freelance writing team.

Best Regards,
Custom writing administration


Why do they have Custom writing administration written at the end of their 'About Us' page.
http://4writers.net/index.php?mode=about

If you click privacy policy page it would take you to good writers.
http://www.good-writers.com/index.html

WHOIS information for good-writers.com :

Registrant:
Domain Privacy Group, Inc.
c/o good-writers.com,
7030 Woodbine Ave. Suite 800
Markham, ON L3R 6G2
CA
Record created on 2008-09-01
=======================
WHOIS information for 4writers.net :

.

Registration Service Provided By: IMENA.UA
Contact: +380.442010102
Website: http://imena.ua

Domain Name: 4WRITERS.NET

Registrant:
imena-pp-a2d83ffb8fc8d55c39e9c8e4eb96ce9c
Pavel Kucheruk (pkucheruk@gmail.com)
Georgija Gongadze
Kiev
,33000
UA
Tel. +380.504352286

Creation Date: 19-Feb-2008
roverofrage   May 3, 09, 04:54AM | #4
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I need to know that is 4writers.net reliable or scam. Is Anyone able to tell reliability of this site.
roverofrage   May 3, 09, 08:25AM | #5
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Hello anybody there to tell me about good-writers.com and 4writers.net
fallenangel   May 3, 09, 11:30AM | #6
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Yes, it looks like another scam site.
roverofrage   May 5, 09, 12:47AM | #7
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Any confirmation abut its scam.
fallenangel Edited by: fallenangel   May 5, 09, 07:25AM | #8
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Check out this page:

http://www.essaywriters.net/pricing.php

Then, check out this page as well:

http://4writers.net/index.php?mode=about

Now, compare the "Testimonials" in both websites. And tell me their difference.

(PS. I have saved all the evidence in hard drive.)
fallenangel   May 5, 09, 07:50AM | #9
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I am judging people by their race. The registrant of the domain may be an Ukrainian, but this does necessarily mean the company is run by any Ukranian.
fallenangel   May 5, 09, 08:42AM | #10
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CORRECTION:

I am NOT judging people by their race. The registrant of the domain may be an Ukrainian, but this does necessarily mean the company is run by any Ukranian.
humble   May 5, 09, 09:37AM | #11
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One can buy hosting plans on servers located anywhere. One of my websites (not related to term paper writing) is registered in the name of the agent from whom I bought hosting. Location of the server on which a website is hosted is not at all conclusive evidence of the location of actual business.
OxbridgeResearchers   May 5, 09, 10:08AM | #12
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humble:


One can buy hosting plans on servers located anywhere. One of my websites (not related to term paper writing) is registered in the name of the agent from whom I bought hosting. Location of the server on which a website is hosted is not at all conclusive evidence of the location of actual business.


Precisely! I believe the server where my websites are located are in the US but the actual business isn't!

fallenangel:
The registrant of the domain may be an Ukrainian, but this does necessarily mean the company is run by any Ukranian.


You are completely right. Anyway, since when does nationality determine quality of service? I am British but, by no means, is that a guarantee of anything (at least to my thinking).
roverofrage   May 5, 09, 10:17AM | #13
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You are right Fallenangle, but this site is very new in this business. is there no measures to determine quality of service. I am asking this question to you because you people are experienced, and I am new to this field.
fallenangel   May 5, 09, 07:51PM | #14
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roverofrage:

You are right Fallenangle, but this site is very new in this business. is there no measures to determine quality of service. I am asking this question to you because you people are experienced, and I am new to this field.


Ghostwriting is not a ethnical practice. I recommend against using ghostwriting services. Enough said.
roverofrage   May 8, 09, 04:58AM | #15
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A good flow of work, But still scared. WritersBeware you are very efficient please trace something about this site. Is it fraud ? please give some evidence about this site will be thankful to you.
stu4 Observer   May 8, 09, 07:53AM | #16
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roverofrage:
WritersBeware you are very efficient please trace something about this site. Is it fraud ?

I think it could be fraud. The most important fraud sign - it does not list their corporate address (so it is probably based in a high-risk country for the customer or their operations are shady). I wouldn't give them any personal details.
moph5as5   May 16, 09, 05:52AM | #17
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I tried the viper scanner to check for any plagiurism in my essay. The terms and condition state that the company keeps a copy of the work that was scanned. Therefore does this mean that if my university use a different plagiurism checker (such as turnitin) then my essay would be regonised as 100% plagiurised because the viper company has a copy of it?
bambi   May 16, 09, 06:04AM | #18
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moph5as5:
Therefore does this mean that if my university use a different plagiurism checker (such as turnitin) then my essay would be regonised as 100% plagiurised because the viper company has a copy of it?


No, it doesnīt. If you ran your paper through Viper, it canīt be detected by turnitin, unless it was previously submitted to turnitin. Turnitin will check the paper against all the previous papers in itīs own database, however it canīt access the database of any other plagiarism detector.

If you trully want to make sure that your paper is safe, despite the fact that you checked it by Viper, go and use writecheck.turnitin.com (Turnitin for students) and run it through. Youīll have to buy 5$ credit for 5,000 words, but at least youīll know what is your standing.
WritersBeware   May 16, 09, 01:48PM | #19
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Moph5as5, you are clearly a SPAMMER and should be banned. Thanks for posting the EXACT SAME thing in 6 different threads.
tabraiz   May 30, 09, 02:46AM | #20
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hey, I just joined 4writers.net, however when I try to sign up for a project, I get the following message

"Please finish active order before taking a new one"

I did not sign up for any paper previously, so I don't have an active order on my hands. Can anyone please guide me on this? I tried to communicate this to the administrator three days ago, and haven't received any response yet. Any help will be appreciated.
Smith   Jun 10, 09, 05:45AM | #21
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4writers.net reliable or not?
reshma   Nov 18, 09, 07:30AM | #22
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has anybody got their salary from 4writers.net for the month of october?
Tonny   Nov 27, 09, 10:18AM | #23
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i got my salary for October on 24th though after much struggle with so called Paul. They sent via western union but am worried coz i already have $800 for this month, i hope they wont screw me like essaywriters.
sneha   Dec 22, 09, 10:03AM | #24
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do not keep large amount pending in one account. they are no.1 cheats. what if they do not pay complete amount. i am a victim where they charged me of plagiarism and deducted heavy amount. still yet to receive my payments. i too have bad experience working for both 4writers and essaywriters. 4writers atleast pay whenever they wish to but essaywriters are always in a look out to grab writer's payment. they themselves take the customer survey and rate your article as poor / unsatisfactory instead of customer rating you. if you interact with the customer through their website, the message never reaches the customer.
sneha   Dec 22, 09, 10:04AM | #25
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4writers and essaywriters are not reliable at all.
anky   Dec 30, 09, 07:31AM | #26
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I am very confused on this forum.. as all websites are mentioned here as fraud.. 4writers.net pay good money to writers but I am not sure after reading all this..what should i do.. should i drop the idea of becoming a writer?
Fracturegang   Dec 30, 09, 09:23AM | #27
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anky:
I am very confused on this forum.. as all websites are mentioned here as fraud.. 4writers.net pay good money to writers but I am not sure after reading all this..what should i do.. should i drop the idea of becoming a writer?


Gradually you will understand that these spammers are from EssayTown. They defame all of the writing sites but that one.
WritersBeware   Dec 30, 09, 01:04PM | #28
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anky:
should i drop the idea of becoming a writer?

Yes.
WritersBeware Edited by: WritersBeware   Dec 30, 09, 01:08PM | #29
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Fracturegang:
Gradually you will understand that these spammers are from **********. They defame all of the writing sites but that one.

Fracturegang, if you make ONE more libelous or derogatory comment about ET or any other legit company/person, I will deliver all of my evidence against you to ET and explain to their international attorneys exactly how and where to sue you, PERSONALLY, in Bangladesh. This is your final warning. (If you think that you are immune just because you are located in Bangladesh, you may want to read about the Axact vs. SNR case.)
Fracturegang   Dec 30, 09, 09:56PM | #30
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anky:
should i drop the idea of becoming a writer?

No!!! you should not be afraid of these blood suckers beasts.
Fracturegang   Dec 30, 09, 10:04PM | #31
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WritersBeware:
Fracturegang, if you make ONE more libelous or derogatory comment about ET or any other legit company/person, I will deliver all of my evidence against you to ET and explain to their international attorneys exactly how and where to sue you, PERSONALLY, in Bangladesh. This is your final warning. (If you think that you are immune just because you are located in Bangladesh, you may want to read about the Axact vs. SNR case.)

First you will prove that ET is a legit company. Then I will give up. Also will you take me to the court? Look, I gathered so many screen shots of WRT and Phyleeks (few of yours) posts that they are enough to take you to your court.
Fracturegang   Dec 31, 09, 09:12AM | #32
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Happy New Year, everyone!!! May the new year bring Endless happiness for all of us. Let's do compete in our business in a decent way rather in a heinous defaming way.

WRT, where are you?
FreelanceWriter Writer   Dec 31, 09, 05:31PM | #33
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Don't flatter yourself: nobody here really considers you "competition" and those of us who are legitimate professional writers already compete against one another fairly and without defaming anybody 365 days a year without any help from idiots like you.
ih8writing   Jan 1, 10, 10:51PM | #34
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are there any companies that specialize in subjects like nursing?
FreelanceWriter Writer   Jan 2, 10, 01:53AM | #35
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I don't know that anybody specializes in any subject areas, but I do dozens of nursing papers every year both privately as well as through all the companies who use me. Nursing (for whatever reason) has always been a pretty popular area in this industry in my experience.
gungun   Jan 9, 10, 03:48AM | #36
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4writers are absolute FRAUDS as they gobbled 800 USD from me; in spite of making all the on time submissions without any plagiarism. they stopped responding to all my mails and phone calls. it seems they come up every year, with different names and fool writers.
it will be great if anyone can suggest on how to give them back.
WriterBeware   Jan 9, 10, 07:58AM | #37
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Well friend, You have no other option left with you except discontinue working with them. There are many websites who have no ethics and running just for the sake of money as they know each year they would be getting hundreds of writers (like me) who will work for them and will found them cheated later on.

You should stop working for any such website like essaywriters.net or bestessays.co.uk. I found from this forum only, that UKessays.com is a genuine website. You may work for them if you want.

Also dont take advice from here, people here, like (writerSbeware), give biased opinion which is not at all trustworthy on the ground of creditability.

Good luck for your future endeavours.
pheelyks Writer   Jan 9, 10, 02:00PM | #38
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WriterBeware:
they know each year they would be getting hundreds of writers (like me) who will work for them and will found them cheated later on.

You will never be able to work for any legitimate company in this industry with this level of English proficiency.

Did your other forum name get banned? Is that why you are trying to purposefully distort the image of a long-time poster on this forum through your carp advice and lies?
WRT Company Representative   Jan 9, 10, 02:26PM | #39
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Fracturegang:
Look, I gathered so many screen shots of WRT
No probs and I am looking forward to it. Send me a PM (if you dare) and I'll put you in touch with my lawyer. I am challenging you to live up to your threat and take me to court. Do it and prove you are not the wuss we all know you to be.
Fracturegang:
Let's do compete in our business in a decent way rather in a heinous defaming way.
You are not `competition,' and never will be.
FreelanceWriter:
those of us who are legitimate professional writers already compete against one another fairly and without defaming anybody 365 days a year
That is something they will never understand, FreelanceWriter.
WritersBeware Edited by: WritersBeware   Jan 9, 10, 03:04PM | #40
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pheelyks:
Did your other forum name get banned? Is that why you are trying to purposefully distort the image of a long-time poster on this forum through your carp advice and lies?

The moderator indicated yesterday that the "WriterBeware" impostor is the "anky" idiot, who already got busted for posing as both a customer and a writer. Why its combination of multiple accounts, identity theft, and blatant libel does not result in a permanent IP ban, I do not understand.

This brings up a great idea for the moderator: limit the number of accounts to 1 per IP.
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