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Edited by: matt68 Feb 27, 07, 12:35AM
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From my initial research on web based custom essay companies it seems that integrity and satisfaction (both for the customer and writer) seem to be a big problem.
I have been self employed for most of my life, and I know customer service is paramount aswell as keeping staff happy and motivated. As far I can tell the main problems are caused by the business owners' egocentric attitudes. It takes time to build a good company and earn customers' trust. From my experience a good business needs continuous improvement to improve customer service and the quality of the product. However some guys for whatever reason insist on taking the first fast buck they make.
I am thinking about setting up a custom essay company and would appreciate any feedback both from writers and customers regarding your expectations of a good essay writing company.
I believe in paying staff well, I would rather charge a higher price and produce less work in order to ensure customer satisfaction. Although I don't believe in extortion, students don't have a lot of cash so the price would have to suit both the writer and the customer.
I also don't believe in a rushed piece of work, I'm thinking of minimum turn around of 3 or 4 days. Overall I'm talking about quality not quantity.
I think the best advertising is a customer's reccommendation so my aim would be to be provide the possible service.
I also have a few other quality control and incentive schemes for both writer and customer which I will keep to myself for now.
I'm 38 yr old graduate with a BA (Hons) 2.2. in Business Studies, graduated in 1991 in the UK.
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| Dylan |
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Feb 27, 07, 08:10AM
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I'm not sure you'd need to charge a higher price to pay writers well - just cream off less for yourself! From what I've read, and from friends who work as writers, most essay companies only pay writers a third of what they rake in from customers.
Standard turnaround times for UK essay companies seem to be 5 or 6 days with a premium payable for work needed faster.
I think most of the quality issues arise because many companies use undergraduate students rather than graduates to write the essays. Sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn't. If you pay for a Master's level essay at first class standard and someone who is a first year undergraduate writes the essay then the chances are you will be disappointed with the product.
I don't know of any company that guarantees that the writer will actually have appropriate qualifications to write essays of a particular standard. For example, a guarantee that if you want a first class paper on economics that your writer will have graduated with a first class economics degree etc. Given that most UK companies charge double rate if you want a first class paper, it is annoying to find out that many companies give the work to people who are not graduates and who may not have even studied that particular subject.
Good luck with your business - I hope you manage to attract some good writers.
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| Amy1978 |
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Feb 27, 07, 12:50PM
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Quoting: Dylan, Post #2 From what I've read, and from friends who work as writers, most essay companies only pay writers a third of what they rake in from customers.
Well, they obviously do not work for any American companies, because I know for a fact that the top American companies pay writers 55-70%. If writers want to work for (support) these bogus, ESL sites like BestEssays.com, EssayWriters.net, Academia-Research.com, vdwriters.com, and MasterPapers.com that falsely claim to be American, the writers deserve their low wages and bad treatment.
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Edited by: Dylan Feb 27, 07, 04:05PM
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Amy, I wasn't talking about bogus ESL sites. I was talking about UK based essay companies that are registered as legitimate businesses with Companies House. I've no idea how much bogus ESL sites pay writers, or if they pay writers at all (from some posts on here it would seem that some don't pay them anything!).
I know US companies charge a lot less than UK companies so even though the writer may get a better split I doubt that their actual pay is much better.
I've started to favour websites where I can do business directly with writers and avoid essay companies completely - this way I get to talk to the writer directly before paying and make sure that they understand my topic. Even with the 'legitimate' US and UK essay companies it is still a lottery as to whether your assigned writer understands your topic and can write to a good standard.
Needless to say, writers and customers should avoid ESL sites and those sites that misrepresent their true location.
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| matt68 |
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Mar 1, 07, 01:26AM
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Thanks for ideas, appreciate your help.
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| curious22 |
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Mar 1, 07, 12:36PM
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matt68
The only way to legitimate your company is to get it approved by very american company EssayFraud.org.
Ask Amy to arrange that for you, otherwise you are bound to fail.
And Amy, just for you so nobody can understand us:
كيف الجو في روسيا يا كلبة روسية؟
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| Amy1978 |
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Mar 1, 07, 12:46PM
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"??? ???? ?? ????? ?? ???? ??????"
"How you, the atmosphere in Russia, Russian is his dog?"
Translation courtesy of www.google.com/translate_t
So, I've been slightly wrong about you, perhaps? You're actually the Pakistani term paper guy. My bad . . . .
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| Nicole |
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Mar 2, 07, 02:32AM
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Dylan,
Is there a way I can contact you? I would like some names of these websites where you can deal directly with the writers? Thanks alot!
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| Dylan |
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Edited by: Dylan Mar 2, 07, 04:08AM
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I use kasamba.com - don't post on kasamba's public boards but contact writers directly after searching your subject area - just be sure to check the writer's ratings (the ones I use have at least a few hundred five star ratings) and you should also email / chat with the writer to discuss your project to make sure that they understand what you want from them. There are a few weirdos / muppets on there (low ratings and weird profiles) - be sure to avoid those! As a safety mechanism, any payment you make is held in escrow until you have received and accepted the work.
There's also elance.com which I think someone else on here mentioned.
By the way, you can contact members on here through the private messenging facility. I'm pretty open on the forum about who I've used and my opinions but others may prefer to say what they want to say privately. Don't accept any one person's opinion as gospel though (including mine!) - there are a lot of people who post online who claim to be students who I think really are stooges for essay companies and are really either promoting their own business or knocking someone elses.
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| Amy1978 |
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Mar 2, 07, 12:47PM
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Dylan, with all due respect, you have made nearly every thread in which you post a huge billboard for Kasamba. Please stop advertising for them.
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Edited by: Dylan Mar 2, 07, 01:15PM
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I don't advertise for them, and I do alert students to potential problems of using sites like these which is that anybody can sign up and claim to be an 'expert' (which is why checking out the writers ratings is so important).
Given all the problems that students have with rogue essay companies, I am happy to let students know that there are widely available alternatives to using essay companies. Writers too!
If the site moderator is in any way unhappy with any of my posts then s/he can edit or remove them. In the meantime, with all due respect, I will keep posting my opinions.
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Mar 2, 07, 10:58PM
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UK writers charge more (cost of living is higher in Europe). Don't know about the quality though.
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Mar 4, 07, 12:13PM
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Are they any legitimate American research writing companies? I'd like to work as a writer for one of them. If anyone here knows of any (or just one, that's all I need), I would appreciate it. From the blogs on this website, www.essaywriters.net is a fraudulent company and someone listed www.academia-research.com as a fraudulent one too. I was seriously considering www.academia-research.com. After I got accepted by www.essaywriters.net, I logged in and clicked on the link Order Details; I kept getting a script error message on every single order that I clicked.
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Edited by: Amy1978 Mar 4, 07, 01:23PM
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Yes, there are several legit, American companies that pay writers 55-70% of the total order cost. But if I were to mention their names, the Ukrainian crooks masquerading here would accuse me of being affiliated with them.
As long as you avoid all of the foreign ripoff sites mentioned here, you should be fine. Just keep looking. Trust me, you'll know it's an American company when you begin communicating with them.
Oh, and here's a list of 415 scam sites to avoid:
essayfraud.org/scam-fraud-ripoff.html
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| LarryC |
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Mar 4, 07, 01:26PM
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I can give you my personal email address and you can tell me the names of these reputable companies.
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| sabakhalid |
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Mar 5, 07, 08:09AM
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I'd really appreciate it if you could mention these American websites. The essaywriters episode has left me completely broke! I got accepted at Academia....but they turned out to be fradulent as well(acc to the forums).
So now I'm sitting at home and wasting time. Help!
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| sarah |
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Mar 5, 07, 03:05PM
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can anyone tell me if ive made a mistake by using ivydissertations to complete my work for me?
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Edited by: Amy1978 Mar 5, 07, 03:31PM
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Calling it a "mistake" would be an understatement. I suggest you cancel your order immediately, or become the EssayRelief hoodlums' next victim.
EssayRelief owns IvyDissertations:
essayfraud.org/forum/index.php?showforum=12
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| LarryC |
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Mar 6, 07, 07:36PM
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Sabakhalid: Go to www.essayfraud.org and you will find a list of 415 sites that are fraudulent for essay writing.
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