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Jun 18, 09, 08:25AM
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Hi WB, not disappeared .. just busy busy busy. As I've said before, happily, I don't have anywhere near the amount of time you have to look at these forums.
Once again, the essay bank you refer to is not a bank of papers from our company, but a marketplace where students can sell their past essays and people can buy them from the student.
No essay that Academic Answers has ever produced for its customers has or would ever appear in an essay for resale- we undertake to the customer in our contract never to republish the essays.
No essay scanned by the Viper software has or would ever appear in an essay bank for resale - again our contract with the user permits us to retain a copy of their essay so that future users can scan against it (this is kept 100% confidential so no other student, scanner or university could view this essay, ever), and the user gets no payment for us retaining that copy of the essay - but then, neither do we charge from the software. Viper has cost us thousands on thousands of pounds to develop so the fact that we retain a copy of the essay for future scans to check against, is a small price to pay for using the software. It actually improves the accuracy of the results so benefits the student in the long run.
We give Viper for free to students and in return, Viper allows us to build relationships with those students who may want to use our essay writing services in future. We're not in the slightest bit interested in putting their essays in an essay bank as this would result in terrible publicity and nobody would use our software. Nobody would trust us and our business would fail. Even if the contract allowed us to do this (which I have argued it does not) no person in this company would be stupid enough to bring down our business with such a dishonest act. If this is your idea of business sense, I'm so very glad you don't work for us!
If anyone would like to prove me wrong by actually showing one single essay in an essay bank somewhere that has either been scanned through Viper or custom written, that our company has published, I would be really interested in seeing this - I can assure you that you won't find one.
In absence of this, WB, your arguments are really mindless speculation and a waste of my time, and everyone else's.
As always I'd be very happy to deal with any genuine queries or concerns :)
Jennifer
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 19, 09, 01:42PM
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Jennifer, since you have chosen to continue to personally insult me instead of admitting that I am correct, I will continue to show precisely how you have MISREPRESENTED.
Misrepresentation #1 (AA sites advertise that the paper bank consists of "professionally written" papers, yet Jennifer argues in this forum that only amateur students provide the papers)
Misrepresentation #2 (claiming to "not advertise" and "not promote" a paper bank)
Misrepresentation #3 (claiming that the Viper Terms of Service does not afford AA the legal protection to resell submitted papers)
"By using the RAPTOR software you acknowledge that Academic Answers Limited will retain any document processed by the program for the purpose of marketing RAPTOR or any associated website of the Company [including, but not limited to, the Company's essay bank at UKEssays.com] and you agree that any right you may have to remuneration for the use of documents to which you hold the copyright is waived."
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Jun 19, 09, 02:08PM
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Misrepresentation #4 (claiming that EssBay is not a part of Academic Answers)
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Edited by: Carly Jun 19, 09, 03:13PM
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WB - I have clarified points #1, #2 and #4 for you already.
#1 - I am certain this is an error by the person working on that site, in our SEO team. I've already mailed them this evening to ask them to change it Monday morning.
#2 - This has nothing to do with Jen, it was my call to leave the link on there, and I've said now that I'll address it over the next few months. It hurts nobody, and it works - it's not a priority at this time. The essaybank hasn't had a coding review, marketing plan nor any money spent on it (unlike, for example, viper). Jen meant this type of promotion - not a link on a site.
#4 - I clarified that I think Jen meant EssayBay is a separate entity to our other AA sites - I stated that she could have worded it better - but working for the company, and on EssayBay - I can see what she means. It's a site belonging to the AA LTD company, but it's not in line with the other sites in terms of guarantees, T&Cs etc.
As stated before, any inconsistencies and errors you pick up on really do help us, and it gives us the scope to iron out these problems, so I appreciate it, and thank you.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 19, 09, 03:31PM
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Carly, at this point, it's a matter of Jennifer's horrible attitude and insults:
JenniferAA: WB, your arguments are really mindless speculation and a waste of my time, and everyone else's.
Frankly, if Jennifer didn't come across as such a you-know-what and continually attack my character because she can't admit that she's wrong, I wouldn't be as inclined to point-out her misrepresentations. If she had ever conducted herself as you do, this matter would have been resolved long ago.
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Jun 19, 09, 03:41PM
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WritersBeware: Frankly, if Jennifer didn't come across as such a you-know-what and continually attack my character, I wouldn't be as inclined to point-out her misrepresentations.
I think personally, for me, I'd like to dip out of the 'personal' stuff like this - I signed up because at the end of the day I work for a genuine company, where we try and look after our customers (albeit - not very well in the past, from what I gather) - and I just want to help anyone stuck with EssayBay, or anything else AA related that I know about.
If I didn't really like our company and believe in what I do, I wouldn't be sat here at 9.30pm on a Friday, unpaid, interspersing hair-straightening with posting!! (I'm going to go out soon!)
So, back to my point, I think I'll leave this up to Jen now to answer. :-)
And, thank you for pointing out the error with LT's essaybank, which as I've said should be fixed Monday morning.
Carly
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Edited by: JenniferAA Jul 14, 09, 11:53AM
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WB, everything I've said about your posts and assertions is absolutely spot on. You spend an awful lot of time trying to knock me, personally, and the company I work for - and then try and make me look like the bad person for standing up for what we do. But that's okay because people only need to read your previous posts to figure out the sort of person you are (people are also very welcome to click my name and read all of my previous posts to figure out what sort of person I am! :-))
You say I attack your character but you forget that I know nothing about you personally except that you have a lot of time to waste in this forum, and that you've never used an essay company by your own admission, which is enough to make anyone wonder what you're doing here. Those are the facts - people can reach their own conclusions about those. I do defend your constant attacks on our company and practices, especially when what you say is grossly inaccurate. We're one of the few genuine companies in the UK but you seem intent on trying to pick fault and cause trouble for us - again people must wonder why that is.
Carly's right anyway, I didn't try to represent that Essaybay is not part of Academic Answers - I explained that EssayBay doesn't offer the same guarantees as the Academic Answers websites. On EssayBay, because it is a writer/buyer marketplace where buyers connect directly with writers, the writers themselves set their own guarantees. Whereas on the Academic Answers websites, we set the guarantees. The fact that on EssayBay we put in the footer "EssayBay Part of Academic Answers Ltd" shows we're again not trying to hide something which is what you always seem to be implying. I hope that's now clear.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jul 14, 09, 01:03PM
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Jenny, just shut the hell up already. You're a JOKE. For your information, Carly and I worked out ALL issues quite some time ago. Why/How? You weren't involved. Carly not only conceded that my points are valid and that you made multiple misrepresentations (either intentionally or out of IGNORANCE), but also thanked me for pointing out other problems in your OWN sites. Apparently, you would prefer that I bring any/all future issues about your company directly to Companies House instead of giving you the opportunity to remedy those issues.
By the way, during your pleasant absence, I DEFENDED your company against another scumbag. So, once again, shut up and go on a clue-finding expedition.
JenniferAA: what you say is grossly inaccurate Prove it! I would be glad to slaughter you in debate once again. It will be much easier this time, considering that I now have all of the evidence (screen captures, HTML code, pre-edited pages of your sites, contracts, etc.) and your misrepresentations at my fingertips.
Since you continue to make things personal, Jenny, maybe I'll shoot exwriter a PM so that he can once again address your "attorney" claims and post public records.
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Edited by: JenniferAA Jul 14, 09, 02:26PM
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WritersBeware: it's a matter of Jennifer's horrible attitude and insults
Lol ... how ironic is the above sentence now! :-) You really should keep calm, stress is very bad for you! :)
Carly didn't say I made multiple misrepresentations at all, WB. She thought perhaps my explanation of the difference between the guarantees on Essaybay and Academic Answers' websites could have been clearer. That's all. She sits about 3 metres from my desk and we do actually talk to each other you know.... :-D
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jul 14, 09, 03:02PM
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You CLEARLY stated that EB is not a part of AA. Do you really want me to prove you to be a LIAR—again? I can easily post the quote. Why don't you just admit that you misrepresented, even if out of sheer ignorance? If you don't, that makes you a liar.
You also misrepresented the "professional" status of the papers in your essay bank.
You also claimed to not promote/advertise your essay bank, which I proved to be a lie/misrepresentation.
So, Jenny, why don't you PROVE which one of my claims is "grossly inaccurate" instead of continuing your pattern of misrepresentative claims? We both know that you do not want to challenge me on the facts, so you should probably just quit while you're behind.
WritersBeware: By the way, during your pleasant absence, I DEFENDED your company against another scumbag. What—no response?
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Edited by: JenniferAA Jul 14, 09, 03:48PM
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I don't clearly state that EB is not part of AA.
You were saying that there was a link to the essay bank on Essaybay but you were quoting the Academic Answers' websites guarantees, i.e. the custom essay writing site guarantees - which say we don't have an essay bank. They are different sites - Essaybay is a completely different concept to our other essay writing websites. The guarantees on our other sites have nothing to do with Essaybay, where writers set their own guarantees.
You linked to a post where you showed there was an essay bank on EssayBay (and of course I've previously explained this is actually a marketplace for students to sell their own essays, not for us to sell essays). My reply was that the post you linked to was:
"about Essaybay rather than a website of Academic Answers whereas the guarantee you quote is from Academic Answers' websites".
Yes, not the best wording in the world I admit. We don't guarantee on EssayBay that we don't own an essay bank as far as I know, but the post you linked to was about EssayBay having an essay bank on. That was my point.
Carly's comment was quite rightly that I could have made it clearer - whilst I was trying to say that the guarantees you quoted only feature on our regular custom essay writing websites (including the guarantee that we don't own an essay bank) it could also be read to mean we don't own Essaybay either. Of course, if you read my posts in context, it's pretty clear I openly and happily admit we own Essaybay as I'm regularly providing answers and info on it, talking about developing it and sometimes providing support - it also says AA own it on the site - so obviously I'm not trying to mislead anyone at all, but have just worded something rather poorly. I don't think that amounts to a misrepresentation but I apologise to you and to anyone else who may have been confused by this.
I did not know that you defended us and I'm of course grateful that you did this.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jul 14, 09, 04:42PM
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JenniferAA: We don't guarantee on EssayBay that we don't own an essay bank as far as I know I never claimed otherwise. You're confusing separate issues. The only relevance that EB has in this matter is the fact that it is the site that advertises your essay bank. I referenced EB only to prove untrue your assertion that AA does not market or advertise its essay bank.
JenniferAA: You linked to a post where you showed there was an essay bank on EssayBay (and of course I've previously explained this is actually a marketplace for students to sell their own essays, not for us to sell essays). I posted that information after you claimed that your company does not promote or advertise an essay bank. How can you make such a claim when a link to your essay bank is prominently displayed on the EB home page?
Then, I provided Carly with evidence that—in the meta description of at least one of your sites—you falsely market the products in your essay bank as "professional essays." That directly contradicts your claim (in your previous post and elsewhere) that your essay bank is strictly a "marketplace for students to sell their own [amateur] essays, not for us to sell [professional] essays." If, as you claim, none of the papers in your essay bank have been written by your freelance staff or taken from your pool of papers that you wrote for customers in the past, you cannot legally market them as "professional essays." This contradiction directly relates to my original concerns about your overly broad contract for Viper.
JenniferAA: whilst I was trying to say "Trying to say" and "actually saying" are two very different things. My point is that—despite what you were "trying" to say—you communicated, in writing, that EB is not a part of Academic Answers. It is not my responsibility to "psychologize" your posts. I deal in evidence and facts, not feelings and intuition.
I just want to know which of my assertions are "grossly inaccurate"?
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Jul 15, 09, 04:56AM
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JenniferAA: Carly didn't say I made multiple misrepresentations at all, WB. She thought perhaps my explanation of the difference between the guarantees on Essaybay and Academic Answers' websites could have been clearer. That's all.
I gotta agree on that one :-)
JenniferAA: She sits about 3 metres from my desk and we do actually talk to each other you know.... :-D
You know the only reason I talk to you is because you bring in chocolate for your team, so I come over to pretend to talk about your marketing stuff, but really my eyes are on the Malteasers.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jul 15, 09, 11:54AM
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Carly: I gotta agree on that one :-) Carly, it's a simple matter of counting.
1. Did you (and/or do you now) not agree that Jennifer's direct claim that AA does not advertise an essay bank is untrue?
2. Did you (and/or do you now) not agree that the "professional essay" marketing of the essay bank through your "law essays" site (if I recall the site correctly) directly contradicts Jennifer's claim that none of the papers in your essay bank was written by your staff or taken from the pool of papers that AA wrote for customers in the past?
3. Did you (and/or do you now) not agree that Jennifer's written word (referenced above) communicates that EB is not a part of AA (regardless of what she "meant" to communicate)?
4. I really don't think that I need to revisit the contract issues . . . .
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Jul 16, 09, 11:45AM
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What are the best avenues for a student to check to see if their work contains any plagiarism?
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Jul 16, 09, 01:14PM
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turntin is the undisputed leader in this area writecheck.turntin.com
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Jul 17, 09, 10:49AM
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humble: writecheck.turntin.com Yes - you are right - especially as they introduced the option of NOT STORING ON STUDENT REPOSITORY. Until a few months ago, checking through turnitin killed the paper as papers were, by default, stored ... not anymore :)
Does anyone know if that NOT STORING option is, in any way, related to the copyright storm they came under?
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Edited by: Carly Jul 17, 09, 12:38PM
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WritersBeware: Carly, it's a simple matter of counting. 1. Did you (and/or do you now) not agree that Jennifer's direct claim that AA does not advertise an essay bank is untrue?
My opinion on this is that Jen was thinking about 'active promotions' of the essay bank.
For example, we run email campaigns and yahoo ads for our other sites and services to drive sales and traffic, but we really do nothing to the essaybank.
Her actual comment was:
JenniferAA: And again yes! The 'essay bank' which we don't actively promote any more
As she said - we don't actively promote it - she didn't say we don't advertise it on our sites.
In the year and a half + that I've worked here, nobody has actually touched the essay bank - it's not part of the 'company plan' at the moment, and it being left in the sidebar of EssayBay was, as I stated, simply an oversight. It didn't harm the site - it never occurred to me that it didn't need to be on there. In fact, I am sure it is on several other AA sites for the same reason.
Though, I took your comments on board - last week I was updating the menu and decided to take it off. It has no real value to our business or our customers right now.
WritersBeware: 2. Did you (and/or do you now) not agree that the "professional essay" marketing of the essay bank through your "law essays" site (if I recall the site correctly) directly contradicts Jennifer's claim that none of the papers in your essay bank was written by your staff or taken from the pool of papers that AA wrote for customers in the past?
Again, my point about this was about a simple error in communication. Yes, the essays in the essay bank are written by students, and uploaded in exchange for commission. Nope, they're not from a pool of AA papers. Did Jen set out to intentionally misrepresent our company on this instance? Nope, I told you a member of my team had made this error *in the meta data* of the site - she just didn't know about it! While I agree it puts out the wrong impression about us, it was never an intentional lie!
WritersBeware: 3. Did you (and/or do you now) not agree that Jennifer's written word (referenced above) communicates that EB is not a part of AA (regardless of what she "meant" to communicate)?
I agree that it sounds like she's trying to disown EB as a part of AA. As Jen states, she sits right near me - I work on EB stuff, she liaises with me with the new plan we're writing for the site, and it's new functionality/design. It states openly that we're apart of AA, I say I work for AA, etc etc. She'd really have no reason at all the pretend that it doesn't belong to the company. Does it sound like the contrary? Yes, I have gotta agree it does. Did I say that Jen has made multiple misrepresentations? No, it's not that black and white. I just said there were a few communication errors. I mean, the meta data is so insignificant too - it's not like we sit writing this stuff on the essaybank pages intentially trying to dupe people into thinking they'll get 'professional papers' - this is how you've made it sound!!
WritersBeware: 4. I really don't think that I need to revisit the contract issues . . . .
I'm not sure what these are, so I won't comment. Contract with using Viper, or being a writer on AA?
I said it before, but again, thanks for pulling us up on the errors that've been made. You know, it's easy to add a word into a meta description and not think about how it relates to the page, and it's really hard to pick stuff up like that if you're working in the middle of it every single day. Having a fresh, non-industry related outsider point things out gives you a bit of perspective and really makes you challenge yourselves. I for one will be a bit more careful now when describing what a page is all about; something I'll also pass to my team.
I hope this helps to communicate my views on the above effectively, Carly
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Edited by: Helpful Joe Aug 2, 09, 06:18PM
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Humbble, WB, exwriter, and OxbridgeResearchers
You should read the terms of use agreement (TOUA) that is required by writecheck.turnitin.com as well as turnitin.com's TOUA.
Here, it is draconian. Here is the important part: "License to Use Papers Submitted. With regard to papers submitted to the Site, You hereby grant iParadigms a non-exclusive, royalty-free, perpetual, world-wide, irrevocable license to reproduce, transmit, display, disclose, archive and otherwise use in connection with the Services any paper You submit to the Site. Please note that papers submitted to the Site are not read or reviewed by any individuals, but rather are only analyzed using the Service." They also have a write to change the agreement at any time unilaterally. Seems very similar to viper. (Side note, I am having trouble finding the difference between viper and rapter anywhere, and the scanmyessay.com site does not seem to be well maintained as to links or information to that end.)
Sounds a lot like what WB has been inflammed over with his original Warning post. It seems all of these sites have something similar.
Here is the main problem, as I see it. No one cares if papers are used to check plagiarism, unless you really DO want to be paid for THEIR making money off of your work. However, the problem arises when you submit a paper, THAT IS ORIGINAL, and then someone else submits your paper to check it, usually without your knowledge, like a publisher, and finds IT IS PLAGIARIZED. Why, because of this from writecheck.turnitin.com
https://writecheck.turnitin.com/pricing_signup.asp?r=69.5288773855708&svr=1 &
"What if I've submitted my paper to Turnitin already?
WriteCheck is intended for papers that have not yet been submitted to Turnitin. If your paper has previously been submitted to Turnitin, it resides in the student paper database. In this situation, you should not use WriteCheck because the analysis will result in a very high number of matches, due to the paper being compared against itself. You will not be able to distinguish between these self-matches and those against other sources. If you have questions, please contact Help through the link at the bottom of the page. "
Ask yourself WHY the writecheck site needs this TUOA statement, IF as they say, THEY do not retain a copy of your work, and therefore are providing simply a service YOU PAY for to HELP you reference your material properly. Cough Cough.
Since their privacy statement, which you should also read, prevents them from telling anyone about you, without a subpoena and legal right to disclose that information, what the publisher will see or Law School professor, is that YOU ARE A PLAGARIZER! fortunately, it is only to your own work, and you are innocent of the charges. Easy to prove? NO!
There is no paper trail that you can point to that you can use to defend yourself in this circumstance, since you are already accused, tried and convicted once the results come back to whomever is checking your work. IF they decide to share that information, AND give you a chance to defend yourself, you will NOT be able to ask turnitin.com for the data to vindicate yourself, cause first they do not have that service, and second, the work YOU gave your teacher, employer, or publisher has been turned in by them, and turnitin cannot release that information without violating their PRIVACY.
I am sure you can see how this can get out of hand. Further as the database gets huge, you will be convicted of plagiarizing items YOU HAVE NEVER seen simply by the shear mathematical probability that people in a similar culture say things similarly, and often identically. Everything we are taught has been a regurgitation of something we heard or read, WITHOUT a running endnote, reference, or footnote. So to put it bluntly, there are rare occasions of original thought, but most of what we know is built on what we have been told. Since our brains do not have running references, we will at some point repeat or think in a way we have been taught and write the same way. Without going into the ludicrous strict definitions of plagiarism, should you decide to say, "the sun is 93 million miles from earth." without a reference, you could and in one environmental class I was involved with, a student WAS accused of plagiarism. But I digress.
The point is if you are ethical, and want to be sure your work is referenced properly, you must be able to retain the copyright to your work, and you must NOT be falsely accused of plagiarism, simply because you used one of these services to help you to reference the work properly. Yet there, at the moment, seems to be no such thing that will prevent you from plagiarizing your own work, once submitted by anyone. That also begs the question, once Person A submits your work with or without your knowledge and/or permission for checking, Person B, who also submits your work for whatever reason will find it plagiarized, as described above, and so on. In this Interconnected world, no one has any idea who will use your work for what end, or how many times it might be submitted for checking by people or entities unbeknownst to you.
The only plagiarism service that would be safe to use is one that checks against published/Internet works, so that you can reference your work to what you could POSSIBLY have seen. For example, a friend of mine was falsely accused of plagiarizing a Scottish work that could only have been seen by Faculty at that University, and he was in Los Angeles, which meant he could NOT have seen it to plagiarize it. He at the time was a high school student having nothing to do with Scotland or that Univeristy. Yet with the behemouth database of turnitin.com somehow that work from Scottland was in the database and worded the information, 3 lines in the entire paper, i.e 1%, the same way. Somehow, with turnitin.com technology/crawler the teacher was given a link to that work. When the student trying to defend himself said he never saw it, and requested a way HE could have gotten to that website, without the link provided by turnitin.com, there was NO WAY. It seems turnitin.com like google has technology that can hack other databases, and get information you and I will never know existed, or could possibly have access to, ETHICALLY. I found turnitin.com's hack of that Scottish database, unethical. Yet the ethical student got a Zero and and F in the class.
This is dangerous stuff on both sides of the debate.
Yours Truly, Joe
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One more thing, if you happen to want to use viper or raptor, you will be unable to, since the registration does not work. When you register, it is supposed to send you a password, which DOES NOT COME. Also, the link to raptor does not work, so there is no way to use the online service either. Carly and Jennifer's have been spending their time here rather than supportting their own product, making the worry about the service irrelevant. :P.
Also, there does not seem to be a support page to even inform them of any problems users might have, or potential users, so that seems odd for a company that claims, as Jennifer and Carly has, that they are trying to take care of their users and form relationships.
I have submitted notification through their contact us, cause this world badly needs a service that can help people, ethical people, properly reference their work without penalty for using the service that is supposed to help them.
Oh well, the world is not as one suspects it should be. :-(
Helpful Joe
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One more thing, if you happen to want to use viper or raptor, you will be unable to, since the registration does not work. When you register, it is supposed to send you a password, which DOES NOT COME. Also, the link to raptor does not work, so there is no way to use the online service either. Carly and Jennifer have been spending their time here rather than supporting their own product, making the worry about the use of the service irrelevant. :P.
Also, there does not seem to be a support page to even inform them of any problems users might have, or potential users, so that seems odd for a company that claims, as Jennifer and Carly has, that they are trying to take care of their users and form relationships.
I have submitted notification through their contact us, cause this world badly needs a service that can help people, ethical people, properly reference their work without penalty for using the service that is supposed to help them.
Oh well, the world is not as one suspects it should be. :-(
Helpful Joe
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Edited by: Helpful Joe Aug 2, 09, 06:55PM
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Oh well, cannot use contact us, either.
This is the error message: Notice: Undefined index: ScanMyEssay Contact Form in C:\Home\s\c\scanmyessay\www\mail\process.php on line 45
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at C:\Home\s\c\scanmyessay\www\mail\process.php:45) in C:\Home\s\c\scanmyessay\www\mail\process.php on line 97
Guess they cannot afford to take care of their service or website very well. Too bad. Or maybe that is good, depending on your point of view. The company itself has made WB's desire that no one use their service a fact, because no one can, at the moment.
HelpFul Joe
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If you visit PlagiarismScanner.com you can get a virus (at least today), so make sure to have a good anti-virus software installed on your computer if you have a reason to visit that site.
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Hi, I'm really worried because ive just used Viper scanmyessay.com to check my essay for plagairism and i am now scared that they will have kept my esssay and when my uni comes to check it they will find the exact same one on another website! :(
Is there a way to check to see if anyone has my essay?
Thanks.
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| justsmile |
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Sep 20, 11, 02:04PM
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Ok, here is what I cannot understand. I hope someone clarifies it for me. On the VIPER website, they claim:
"we'll take your essay and add it to our database so that future scans that you or other people make can be compared to it. Nobody has access to this database and if part of your essay matches another essay, other people cannot see your work - they only see a percentage match. "
At the same time, on their website they have a bunch of testimonies from university professors, showing that VIPER is obviously used to track for plagiarism in universities. They say that when you scan your essay, it goes to the database for future scans to be compared to it, right? So what happens when you scan your essay, it goes to their database for future scans to be compared to it and then later a professor/reviewer uses viper to scan the very same essay for plagiarism? He will see the percentage match with the essay the student has previously scanned by Viper and he will think that it has been plagiarized, even if it was not. And how is the student then able to prove that he has actually written this essay and not someone else - VIPER will not show the entire work, but just fragments/percentage match. I mean, the whole idea of using VIPER then is contradicting itself and instead of "offering you peace of mind" is doing just the opposite - the moment you scan your work, even if it is 100% original, if a professor later uses Viper, he will think it is plagiarized. What is the point?
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| MeoKhan |
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Sep 22, 11, 02:20PM
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Joined: Jan 9, 11 Threads: 3 Posts: 1,046
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I am guessing you have answered the question in your reply above. Why would a prof. check an essay later? It's only the current term, the current semester where it should show your essay is NOT plagiarized. In my amateur opinion, not only VIPER but also other scanners follow similar procedures.
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| mukhirjii4 |
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Sep 22, 11, 07:53PM
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Joined: Aug 21, 11 Threads: 3 Posts: 49
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stop guessing
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| basemhammad |
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Edited by: Admin Dec 20, 11, 02:48AM
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Joined: Dec 20, 11 Posts: 1
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Conclusion
In conclusion we thank god to help us achieving the purpose of this project or Assignment that we did. Ethics now is applied into too many principles of our lives. It is the protocol that governs the communication or behavior of the person to lead him to good actions. Ethic was very important in using Internet inside the college to lead to good behavior of student. Students should come from their homes with a lot of principles of ethics about the life. We hope that we cover most the aspects of using internet ethically by students. Thank goes to Mr. Basem for any clarification and help.
References
- pewinternet.org/Reports/2011/Social-Networking-Sites.aspx
- Wikipedia site.
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| wretardwriter |
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Dec 20, 11, 12:16PM
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Joined: Dec 6, 11 Posts: 27
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Haha at Wikipedia being a "reference".
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| LynnFell85 |
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Dec 20, 11, 01:01PM
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Joined: Nov 29, 11 Threads: 2 Posts: 67
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JenniferAA: You say I attack your character but you forget that I know nothing about you personally except that you have a lot of time to waste in this forum, and that you've never used an essay company by your own admission, which is enough to make anyone wonder what you're doing here. Those are the facts - people can reach their own conclusions about those. I do defend your constant attacks on our company and practices, especially when what you say is grossly inaccurate. We're one of the few genuine companies in the UK but you seem intent on trying to pick fault and cause trouble for us - again people must wonder why that is.
Part of the "one", WB?
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| MeoKhan |
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Dec 20, 11, 02:45PM
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Joined: Jan 9, 11 Threads: 3 Posts: 1,046
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And who are you a part of?
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Dec 20, 11, 03:12PM
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LynnFell85: Part of the "one", WB? Jennifer is a frustrated, morally defeated employee of a company that I OUTED for engaging in shady business tactics (which other employees of the company admitted soon thereafter) related to its "plagiarism" software. Nice try, though, dipshit.
Your company must really suck.
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