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And they use it as their own. What should I do? I contacted them and talked live to a person and they said they would remove it, but still it's not removed.
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Jun 16, 09, 09:12AM
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You could try contacting their hosting provider to make a complaint?
Details can usually be found via a quick http://who.is search.
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Jun 16, 09, 09:15AM
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They hide their contact information by proxy registration. But do you think I could contact their hosting and they could help remove the image?
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Jun 16, 09, 09:18AM
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If you know who they host their site with, why not?
Also, you could try sending them an email - maybe like a C&D?
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Jun 16, 09, 09:22AM
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It says the hosting is www.securityspace.net, but I'm not sure if it's a real hosting or some kind of proxy?
http://whois.domaintools.com/midterm.us
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Hmmm, in that case I'd try looking for a free cease and desist letter template you can edit and send that via email - that might make them stop? Well, that's what I would do. If it's a huge problem for your business you may wish to contact a proper lawyer, or ask the C.A.B (or equivalent) what they suggest.
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Jun 16, 09, 01:26PM
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Sitewoner, why not specify the details of the theft? What's your site? What image did the Ukrainians steal?
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Jun 16, 09, 07:23PM
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I prefer not to reveal my site's name because now I can see this company may run a shady bussines (this is my conclusion from reading this forum).
I'll just contact their host and Google to remove their pages from their index. Will also send a S&D letter as suggested by another poster. Hopefully that will be enough.
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Jun 18, 09, 08:50AM
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I am the owner of this shady business. Show me the image you think has been stolen from you.
And please get in touch with me directly.
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Jun 18, 09, 08:54AM
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My conclusion at the moment is that YOU are a shady business, if you try to damage mine first, instead of informing the director of the business of your problem, if there's any at all.
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Jun 18, 09, 08:56AM
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You said you have contacted a person, who did you speak to? Did you show them your image?
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Ok i got in touch with my people, you never showed them the original image, and you never introduced yourself. We have removed that image - f*ck off now, i hope you're happy. I will not tell you who I am, because i am scared, but you have damaged my multi-million international business by stealing a favicon, and now my multi-million audience mistakes my site about jerking off with midterm.us, and they stopped buying my "top 10 jerking off practices handbook" by S17e0wnR. And now when S17e0wnR'S life is ruined, he will post an angry letter to Google.
I don't even know now if this favicon has been really stolen from someone.
I suggest that you get yourself a life now - every anonymous lazy bastard engaged into restoring the right order of things in the universe.
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Jun 18, 09, 09:20AM
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Just in case you did not know - there are easy techniques which allow finding the duplicates of an image on the internet. So expect a russian nuclear bomb fall on your website in the nearest few hours :)
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cybermediaboy: I am the owner of this shady business.
Given that you have identified yourself as the owner of Uvocorp, your behaviour is hardly surprising:
cybermediaboy: My conclusion at the moment is that YOU are a shady business,
cybermediaboy: We have removed that image - f*ck off now, i hope you're happy.
cybermediaboy: now my multi-million audience mistakes my site about jerking off with midterm.us, and they stopped buying my "top 10 jerking off practices handbook" by S17e0wnR.
cybermediaboy: I suggest that you get yourself a life now - every anonymous lazy bastard engaged into restoring the right order of things in the universe.
cybermediaboy: So expect a russian nuclear bomb fall on your website in the nearest few hours :)
Aren't you eloquent :) I never thought there would come the day when I would ever say this to anyone: you make Alexey Vitchenko look like an angel, in comparison.
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Jun 18, 09, 09:27AM
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I talked to "Kristy". Thank you for removing the image and teaching me some new street words.
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siteowner: I talked to "Kristy". Thank you for removing the image and teaching me some new street words.
No wonder you did not want your site associated with this character! Out of curiosity - what does the Ghoul of Customwritings.com do to customers who complain? Waterboard them ... or eat them alive?
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I think I will need to explain that a threat to launch a russian nuclear bomb on his site was a joke. I am tired of the kids who have seen too much of Guy Ritchie's movies where all the russians are revengeful gangsters.
In case you wonder why am I so evil and hard-worded, I will tell you.
Here's a recent letter I got from one of our writers:
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Dear Mr. Eugene,
First and foremost, allow me to congratulate you for steering Uvocorp and Academic experts to even greater heights, and for making the two companies stay a head of the competition. The innovation, professionalism and reliability displayed by your company are unrivalled in the industry. Thanks also for introducing me to your new blog. Through your personal invitation, i became the first Uvocorp writer on the Blog and remain an active member (*****). Allow me also to thank you for introducing the fastest and cheapest debit card, payoneer. We feel highly motivated since nowadays we get paid almost instantly unlike the days of Gkard, Ikobo and Wire Transfer.
Mr. Director, allow me to make a formal request through your office. I know this request can only be made through your office. I am writer # U1182 and my wife is writer #U2487. We've worked for uvocorp since the year 2007 as full time writers and we're so grateful. Dear Sir, we currently have our daughter hospitalized and we urgently require at least $300 to offset hospital bills. However, this being a low season we have tried hard but we're unable to raise this amount before this coming payment period (15th, June). We're required to clear this bill before 21st, June. We're making a humble request through your office to kindly pay us our Total Hold to enable us offset part of this bill. Here is the breakdown of our Holds:
U1182 = $****
U2487 = $****
Mr. Director, kindly note that we understand the rules and regulations governing the release of writer's Holds. And that's why since 2007, we've never requested to be pre-paid our holds. However we've been compelled by the situation that we're currently confronted with. That is why we formally request you to communicate to the Payments department before the payment period about the practicality of our request. Indeed we know that they can only act under your instructions as the Director.
Sir, your action will go along way in saving the life of our ailing daughter.
You can communicate to my wife (U2487) directly through her e-mail d****m@yahoo.com.
Thanks for giving us an opportunity to work and earn a living in your company.
Sincerely,
J****b A*****sa A****i & D****s Mu****a Ki****go.
Uvocorp Writers
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I have satisfied this request several days ago and spent some of my personal funds to cover the difference.
You will be surprized - but around 1050 talented people from many parts of the world, including the parts where the living is not so easy to make nowadays, work for my company, to feed their families.
And judging from the type of business problems SITEOWNER concentrates his efforts on, he will NEVER in his life replace me - trust my intuition.
And in case SITEOWNER, or any of you, idiots, who think they are doing THE RIGHT THING here on this forum, which I know belongs to one of our rivals, succeed with their attempts to ruin my business, some other daughter who needs urgent medical treatment, may be left someday without it.
So I really wish you excuse my language, but I promise I will be as harsh and as picturesque as I can every time I see a loser who wants to compromise my venture without any adequate reasons.
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OxbridgeResearchers: No wonder you did not want your site associated with this character! Out of curiosity - what does the Ghoul of Customwritings.com do to customers who complain? Waterboard them ... or eat them alive?
Yes we eat them alive.
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Carly: Hmmm, in that case I'd try looking for a free cease and desist letter template you can edit and send that via email - that might make them stop? Well, that's what I would do. If it's a huge problem for your business you may wish to contact a proper lawyer, or ask the C.A.B (or equivalent) what they suggest.
Yeah, another favorite browser icon for a site showing "M" letter, on one of the 100 000 000 web sites on the internet, is a HUGE, very big problem.
Trust me - he will never earn enough to hire a lawyer. And this is why he is here with you, spreading the dirt around.
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siteowner: talked to "Kristy". Thank you for removing the image and teaching me some new street words.
As the person you've spoken to has promised, it has been removed even before I came here to slap you on your face a little.
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OxbridgeResearchers: Aren't you eloquent :) I never thought there would come the day when I would ever say this to anyone: you make Alexey Vitchenko look like an angel, in comparison.
I don't know wno this Alexey is, who you are, and I don't care what you think about me - stay aside from the discussion since this none of your f***ing concern, from where I'm standing, do you read me? I am here because I must protect my business, what do you do here and who the hell are you? Enthusiastic cheerleader?
If you are a rep of OxbridgeEssays, I can assume, that you are not totally happy to read that a business like yours tells a truth about themselves in public. We never hide that we employ A LOT of excellent indian, pakistani, kenya and other ESL writers. While everyone knows that OXBRIDGEESSAYS does so as well, while officially stating that ALL of their writers are GRADUATES of cambridge and oxford. Ha ha ha. And they (smile) support EssayScam.org, if i am not mistaken.
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I have been, and will be absolutely ironic about everything i read here.
Because:
1) you make generalizations which can't be made in one's right mind (ukrainians = frauds)
2) you hide your pathetic screaming asses from the law
3) you do not have sufficient statistical data on the quality of the service to make judgements on what is fraud and what is not
4) you are playing with fire
5) you do not represent a SOCIETY, even a fraction of the clientelle of the businesses over which you consider yourself judges, is much bigger
6) you are miserable, because for the sake of your own pride you spend your time barking on the big dogs, thinking that you protect some BIG TRUTH that in fact does not exist
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Jun 18, 09, 11:34AM
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cybermediaboy: I am here because I must protect my business, what do you do here and who the hell are you? Enthusiastic cheerleader?
Academic Answers has protected its business on multiple occassions through this forum, as have I and several others. None have descended to your level. You could have responded to siteowner (whoever he/she is) in a professional manner but, instead, you chose to turn this thread into a mud-wrestling ring.
And I fail to see the relevance of the email you posted ... it certainly does not negate the unfavourable opinion which many have formed of you, on the basis of nothing but your attitude and behaviour.
The boy in your handle is appropriate because you certainly have proved yourself just that.
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Jun 18, 09, 11:35AM
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cybermediaboy: OXBRIDGEESSAYS
No - I am not related to oxbridge essays boy and do not have much respect for the Oxbridge Research Group. Even so, they are a cut above you.
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Yes i accept that I am bad mannered when speaking here.
And you will meet nothing else, while speaking to me anonymously and not in the order appropriate to my position, as established by our company.
A professional manner responses are appropriate to the professionals, who recognize the responsibility behind the actions and words they are to bring forward. This forum is, in fact, antiprofessional in it's essense. And I have seen no trace of professionalism anywhere in this discussion either.
I am not even myself here - right? :) I am no one. Just a bunch of words on a dirty forum.
But I have my reasons behind this. I know the truth I protect - by whatever means or manner I have chosen. Be specific, open and serious, back up your statements, do not post on ESSAYFRAUD, adding up to the dirt, lies and hysteria that's abundant here already - and we can speak otherwise.
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Jun 18, 09, 11:44AM
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cybermediaboy: 4) you are playing with fire
Lovely - send your lawyers after me. You won't even have to go through the trouble of tracing my IP ... Shouldn't you be taking your meds now?cybermediaboy: barking on the big dogs,
I am not the one barking [i][/i]here, wouldn't you say?
cybermediaboy: While everyone knows that OXBRIDGEESSAYS does so as well, while officially stating that ALL of their writers are GRADUATES of cambridge and oxford.
The fact that The Oxbridge Research Group lie through their teeth is something that I do not believe any could deny. I have stated that before and their lies extend way beyond the claim that they only hires Brits and Americans.
cybermediaboy: We never hide that we employ A LOT of excellent indian, pakistani, kenya and other ESL writers.
Good for you and actually, so do I and publicly state it!
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OxbridgeResearchers: Lovely - send your lawyers after me. You won't even have to go through the trouble of tracing my IP ... Shouldn't you be taking your meds now? cybermediaboy:
I did not address you personally. I mostly mean the people behind this forum, in this particular statement.
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Jun 18, 09, 11:46AM
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cybermediaboy: back up your statements
My statement related to your attitude and not to your company and I think my statement is borne out by your posts
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Jun 18, 09, 11:52AM
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There are reasons for my personal attitude to what's happening here, as I have explained earlier.
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cybermediaboy: There are reasons for my personal attitude to what's happening here, as I have explained earlier.
I can certainly accept and believe that ... but as your company's rep, you really have cast a less than favourable light on it. Had you just come in and called siteowner out for what you say was a generic image and not a copyrighted one as s/he alleged, you would have shown yourself a professional and generated trust. You chose, however, to insult all here.
On a different note everybody, is this forum really associated with The Oxbridge Research Group?cybermediaboy: they (smile) support EssayScam.org, if i am not mistaken.
If it is .... no comment but ... yuck!!!
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I dont see any evidence on their web site at the moment, but I recall there was once a banner before the redesign. And to reinsure the truth, my evidence on what i've been stating in regards to them is relatively old, so it might expire since then. Anyways this was not the point I was communicating - the point was that I do not see how anyone relates to the issue, but us and this anonymous subject, who has threatened my business and people for the sake of his stupid "m" icon.
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OxbridgeResearchers: Had you just come in and called siteowner out for what you say was a generic image and not a copyrighted one as s/he alleged, you would have shown yourself a professional and generated trust. You chose, however, to insult all here.
How am i supposed to call out siteowner, after he has posted to a forum, dedicated to defaming my business, where the forum's policies do not allow deleting messages? He has already publicly admitted himself to be taking action against "these ukrainian thieves" (i can't perceive this otherwise).
And I have my reasons to insult everyone here as well - read above. This is very unprofessional and insulting - to express un-backed up opinions and insults to the businesses, which you have no idea about, anonymously, thinking that you are putting things to an order in an industry. If essayscam were an independent public organization, with tools to monitor and control the market - i'd love and respect everyone here.
I don't care about my personal reputation, if you ask my staff, they will tell you that I am very bad mannered sometimes, when it gets to someone's screaming misresponsibility, unprofessionalism, but very efficient and very straightforward. I am protecting my business and it's people, not building an angel reputation for myself here.
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Edited by: cybermediaboy Jun 18, 09, 12:37PM
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Okay,
I will put everything i've told before in a normal language.
People, you do not understand a simple thing: YOUR OPINIONS AND OFFENSIVE ACTIONS MAY COMPROMISE THE INTEGRITY OF THE LIVES OF OTHER PEOPLE LIKE YOU, instead of the effect of "putting these evil ukrainians in the corner where they should be", which you expect from your actions.
And you might not be even aware of this.
THINK FIVE TIMES before trying to put down a site who you think has done something wrong.
I and my staff has already had a lot of troubles with different authorities because of the hype on this forum. Please - do not add to it. This irritates a lot, trust me. I've met enough suspiciousness in my life due to the very fact that I am Ukrainian.
If you're our writer - there's a special public forum for the complaints and suggestions, for constructive discussions. If you're a customer - you should not trust the message "everyone is fraud". There are customer support officers in each business, there is PayPal dispute resolution system, there are UK courts, in the end. Don't add up to an anonymous defamatory hysteria, directed by one business who thinks they are the smartest. You will not get any direction and help from here.
If you will find a pic or a word that has been taken from your site or blog - address the company directly, and your request will be handled gently and appropriately.
If you want to help correct our errors - you're welcome to send your resume in.
Everything else posted here will be perceived as a direct anonymous offence for the sake of defamation.
This forum is flawed in it's essense and message.
That's basicly it.
Thank you and pardon my rudeness.
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cybermediaboy: daughter hospitalized and we urgently require at least $300 to offset hospital bills.
Both worked full time for years and remained pretty poor!!??
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Edited by: cybermediaboy Jun 18, 09, 03:57PM
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And yes, your guess is right - if you meet me you will see that I am nothing more then a boy. A very skilled boy. Not a big boss.
But a boy in me would take down EssayTown, EssayScam and everyone else on the internet calling us "frauds" two years ago - if not forever, but out of the business for a decade at least, which would suffice to feed my feeling of being offended for naught. Believe me - it's no big deal at all.
This does not happen because the boy in me learned to take pride in what he does, in the business principles he keeps in himself and his surroundings. And cares for reputation much less.
The boy is very angry because he clearly sees that the idea of this forum IS indeed NOT helping poor people who suffered from frauds. And he clearly sees a bunch of short-sighted people who obviously think they are adults, doing what they think they must do, without any knowledge of the subject, and accepting no responsibility for the consequences of what they do and say.
And the boy communicates his point of view - as a boy.
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Jun 18, 09, 04:13PM
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Because this forum is for no one else but for boys and girls.
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serene: Both worked full time for years and remained pretty poor!!??
I don't see what youre interest is, but here's an answer:
First - they worked full time for us and another several services at the same time probably.
Second - they had a very tough competition.
Third - I wish you never find yourself poor because of the illness of your daughter.
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cybermediaboy: boy in me learned to take pride in what he does, in the business principles he keeps in himself and his surroundings
Well said. But in light of the pride you take in your business, why don't you address the complaints which have been levelled against your company? Writers and customers have posted a multitude of complaints here and some forum members have posted evidence which is suggestive of questionable business operations. You, naturally, dispute all that. That brings me to my question - in post #34 you demonstrated a capacity to politely and professionally present your case - so, rather than attack and insult, why don't you respond? If it is because you have more important things to do, I will not dispute that, although I fail to see how 10 minutes a week could set you back. Most of us have better things to do but we are here simply because it is imperative to defend our companies against false accusations and, importantly, to gauge what writers want out of their work with us and what customers complain of. AcademicAnswers, undoubtedly one of the industry's giants, often sends a rep here to deal with accusations and complaints. If anything, it endows them with legitimacy.
cybermediaboy: (ukrainians = frauds)
Granted that this is a stereotype which I, among others, are guilty of embracing but, you should look at the bigger picture. Your company aside, the fact is that an inordinately high percentage of the scammers in this industry are Ukrainians. The masterpaper/academia-research group of sites has perfected the art of the scam. And, no, this is not a wild accusation - my statement is fully supported by irrefutable evidence and is, therefore, neither libelous nor defamatory. So, while I agree that it must be frustrating and quite enraging to have such a stereotype follow you everywhere, it has a basis in fact.
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OxbridgeResearchers: But in light of the pride you take in your business, why don't you address the complaints which have been levelled against your company?
First - Because the anonymous forum of EssayTown is not a place where I would discuss the complaints. There are normal procedures for complaints review established, which I know work very efficiently. We have a very low refund rate on the big turnover the business generates - despite we give full refunds to our customers if they don't accept. We have dispute resolution departments of our own and PayPal.
EssayFraud.org is a place for kids, as I have previously said. It's purpose is not helping writers nor clientelle. It does not have any tools onboard to judge. It's purpose is defamation. I don't know even if I speak to my client/writer or not.
While in my company - I personally track the stats for the customer's satisfaction, the stats for particular refund reasons and other relevant business data. I personally answer posts in our forum for the writers employed.
In a word - this EssayScam forum is a place for throwing trash in, for the benefit of it's "anonymous" owners, not for conducting business activities. I have once answered to a single post here on emotions, and will never do that again I hope.
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