| jamesb |
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Feb 22, 07, 04:33PM
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Just over a month ago I ordered an essay from ukessays.com, with a guaranteed 2:1 grade.
However, I have since found that the actual quality of the completed essay is only of third standard.
Has anybody here had a similar experience with this company?
Is it worth trying for a refund ect?
My personal advice to others using this company is to make full use of the 7 day amendment period that they offer rather than just assuming that your essay is automatically a perfect standard...
Advice would be appreciated!
Thanks
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| Dylan |
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Feb 22, 07, 05:34PM
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I've used them a few times and only had one problem - it was a psychology paper with lots of statistics in it and unfortunately the writer screwed up the stats and the paper was awarded 44%, I think, which obviously wasn't the 2:1 I paid for.
The problem with getting your money back now is that you accepted the paper without requesting amendments; this means that it is very unlikely that you'd get a chargeback on your credit card. You could always try talking to the company but they may argue that (a) the paper was sold as a model and you shouldn't hand it in as your own work anyway, and (b) that grading is largely subjective, and (c) it was up to you to check the work met the standard required and if it didn't to request an amendment in the 7 day amendment period.
I think you'll have to chalk this one up to experience.
Just out of interest, what subject area was it? I'm finding it hard to get good psychology papers from essay companies and now mostly use writers from kasamba for statistics work (cheaper and better quality!).
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| jamesb |
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Feb 23, 07, 12:52PM
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This was a relatively straightforward human resource management paper, so I really didn't expect there to be any complications.
Coughing up £300 to supposedly one of the most reputable companies in the market for such a crappy end result is slightly galling, especially as their website states that all papers are pre-checked by their ''quality control team'' to ensure that required standards are met - evidently this is not always the case or their team is just plain incompetent.
From all accounts this company is pretty reliable on the whole, however I would urge others to be slightly more critical of any papers they purchase, especially when splashing out such a massive sum of money.
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| bob_89q |
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Feb 26, 07, 10:30AM
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this company is a member of the academic awards ltd group and from my experiance they offer very substandard work but will charge top wack
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| Dylan |
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Edited by: Dylan Feb 26, 07, 04:22PM
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Do you mean "Academic Answers Limited" group? That comprises ukessays.com, oxbridgegraduates.com and law-essays.com
I've never heard of the "academic awards ltd group".
If anything you order isn't up to scratch it's up to you to contact the essay company and request amendments / dispute the charge with your credit card company. I would have done that with mine but I'm so dim with statistics that I didn't notice there was a problem ... until I saw the grade of 44%!
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| student_uk |
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Mar 18, 07, 11:44AM
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I had emailed ukessays.com on Saturday 18 March 2007 to ask whether they have highly qualified writers in terms of experience, qualification and specialist knowledge. I haven't received any email from them till now. Wonder why?
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| student_uk |
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Mar 18, 07, 11:46AM
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Correction i had mailed them on 17 March 2007 and not 18 March 2007
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| fraudfighter |
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Apr 6, 07, 11:48AM
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Why are you wondering why they haven't replied? That's a pretty pointless comment.
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| Dylan |
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Apr 6, 07, 01:42PM
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Quoting: student_uk, Post #6 had emailed ukessays.com on Saturday 18 March 2007 to ask whether they have highly qualified writers in terms of experience, qualification and specialist knowledge.
I don't know about highly qualified. Many essay companies use undergrad students as writers so, for example, your Masters level essay may well be written by a first year undergraduate student.
One of my friends writes for ukessays - it is interesting to see how they do business:
When you first place your order, your 'brief' is sent out to people who say they are qualified to write essays in that area. If if no-one bids for the work in a day or so the 'brief' is then sent out to all writers with a note saying that the first writer to respond will be accepted to undertake the work regardless of previous experience. So, using my previous analogy, your Masters level essay in philosophy may be written by a first year undergraduate with no background / qualifications in philosophy.
UKessays.com also own oxbridgegraduates.com - if you look back on previous posts on here one writer for ukessays says that the writers are the same for both businesses. So I guess your Masters level essay bought on oxbridgegraduates.com may be written by a first year student at the University of Luton who writes for ukessays.com.
I'm not sure what to make of the fact that ukessays.com is verified by essayfraud. Maybe it only means that it does actually operate from the location that it declares on its website.
I guess the only way to be sure that you get an essay that meets your own standards is to write it yourself. Lazy tossers like myself have to use trial and error to try and figure out which of the essay companies are the least dodgy!
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| Amy1978 |
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Edited by: Amy1978 Apr 6, 07, 02:08PM
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Dylan, you're correct. Read Essayfraud.org's explanation about verification:
"We <u>do</u> verify location, corporate status, and employment standards. We <u>do not</u> recommend, endorse, or attest to the effectivenes of any particular company."
essayfraud.org/members.html
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| JenniferAA |
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Oct 30, 08, 07:24AM
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Hi James,
I'm the Quality Manager for Academic Answers and I've just been sent a link to this post to have a look at. I'm certain that we replied to this before and offered to help but it seems that our posts have been removed. Can you just give me an update on your situation please? Was the issue dealt for you?
An order number would also be very useful :-)
Kind regards
Jennifer
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| banned writer911 |
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Oct 30, 08, 08:32AM
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JenniferAA: I'm certain that we replied to this before and offered to help but it seems that our posts have been removed.
Lol!
Only ugly postings are retained here. If you try to explain, you're wasting your time.
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| JenniferAA |
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Nov 5, 08, 06:32PM
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I've noticed that the boards do seem to be conveniently edited :(
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Nov 5, 08, 09:31PM
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JenniferAA: I've noticed that the boards do seem to be conveniently edited
Are you going to start with the false accusation, too? I highly doubt that you want to associate Academic Answers with the baseless accusations of proven liars and fraudsters.
I've been here a long time. I've seen what types of posts/threads get deleted. They all have certain things in common:
a. advertising/promotion;
b. false accusations;
d. repeated, vulgar language and/or personal attacks;
and/or
d. impersonating "customers."
If your posts "disappeared," it was due to one or more of the preceding reasons. Follow the rules of the forum, and your posts will be mysteriously "magic-proof."
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| dreamer |
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Nov 6, 08, 04:41AM
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jamesb: Just over a month ago I ordered an essay
I was banking on this company. Now have to look for something else. Please let me know if you have found any other.
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| dreamer |
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Nov 6, 08, 04:42AM
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Dylan: I'm finding it hard to get good psychology
I have similar problems. Will let you know if I come across anything suitable.
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| JenniferAA |
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Nov 6, 08, 06:10AM
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Hi again WB .. no, they've been just offers to help people who say they've had bad experiences. No advertising or anything like that. It's okay though - I'm making a screenshot of every post now so I can be more specific if one does disappear.
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| MAK |
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Nov 6, 08, 07:11AM
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Sure and very soon they will be threatening to sue Essay-scam for defamation through their legal sharks dept.
Screenshots indeed! Hahaha
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| exwriter |
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Nov 6, 08, 10:11AM
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MAK: Sure and very soon they will be threatening to sue Essay-scam for defamation through their legal sharks dept. Screenshots indeed! Hahaha
And Jennifer does know so much about law doesn't she (not) after all she is FILEX qualified (like that makes a scrap of difference). Guess she couldn't quite cut it to do the LPC or BVC so sold herself short as a legal executive.
Since this site is for opinions only she would struggle to bring a defamation suit as the posters are anonymous as are the site owners.
UKessays might not lie about their location like other sites but they still exploit students and writers alike. When I worked for them I was asked several times to become a staff writer but that would entail being forced to write on any essay they cared to throw in my direction regardless of whether I had the resources or the capability of doing these. Naturally - having some morals- I declined. I was also allowed to bid on topics for which I had no qualification just by sending an email saying that I had done essays of this kind before. In fact I once sent them a sample of my work that was actually written by another family member and they never queried it one iota. So much for quality control.
This company is no better then those who declare false addresses. They treat their writers like rubbish and charge exorbitant fines for work that is either late or does not meet the grade. I know of one writer for this company that was fined 3 x the price they were being paid for the essay because the customer kept demanding amendments to the extent that the writer refused to do any further amendments as the requests were for things that had not been originally requested in the initial brief. When the writer refused to amend further the company fined them 3 x the price of the brief. No wonder Barclay drives a lambo!!
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| MAK |
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Nov 6, 08, 10:24AM
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Yea....We should all write a letter to England's bar council about their website
http://www.bvchelp.co.uk/free-essays/
which was obviously drawn up to mint money from desperate BVC students.
This is blatant plagiarism.I wonder why the BVC council is blind to this.Somebody has to draw their attention to this!
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| JenniferAA |
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Nov 6, 08, 04:44PM
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Exwriter - I did my LL.B and took the LPC too, thank you :) I'm not sure I need to give you my CV in here though or the reasons why I took a particular qualification route or pursued my career the way I did. To be honest, I really don't think that personal jibes are very helpful to the genuine users of this forum who are here to voice their complaints about essay companies. I'm just here to help those people.
WB, you're funny :-) I'm not about to sue anyone for defamation (I love how these things escalate out of proportion - it's like watching Eastenders!). You mentioned that I shouldn't make false accusations (i.e. by saying that my posts were removed) so I said that's okay, I'm taking screenshots now so I can be more specific next time I say one has been removed. And now you say, ahhhh! I'm taking screenshots - I must be about to launch a defamation claim :-D
Regarding the fines, it is rather difficult for me to comment on a particular case unless of course you have an order number for me. I can assure you we'd never reclaim more than we've actually lost - the law doesn't allow us to do so and of course, you know that we are subject to English law, like all other UK based registered companies.
By the way, Barclay doesn't drive a Lambo any more :)
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Nov 6, 08, 05:09PM
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JenniferAA: WB, you're funny :-) I'm not about to sue anyone for defamation (I love how these things escalate out of proportion - it's like watching Eastenders!). You mentioned that I shouldn't make false accusations (i.e. by saying that my posts were removed) so I said that's okay, I'm taking screenshots now so I can be more specific next time I say one has been removed. And now you say, ahhhh! I'm taking screenshots - I must be about to launch a defamation claim :-D
You need to read a little more closely instead of putting 100% of your effort into promoting your shady company. You're quoting the wrong person.
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| JenniferAA |
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Nov 6, 08, 05:42PM
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I apologise WB, you're right - it was MAK who said that.
I shall polish my glasses and pay more attention :)
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| exwriter |
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Nov 6, 08, 11:47PM
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JenniferAA: Regarding the fines, it is rather difficult for me to comment on a particular case unless of course you have an order number for me. I can assure you we'd never reclaim more than we've actually lost - the law doesn't allow us to do so and of course, you know that we are subject to English law, like all other UK based registered companies.
If this is so WHY do the company fine writers 300% when a complaint is received for example an essay that was paying £80 and the writer was fined £240. Yeah of course the company lost that amount (not).
As regards the order number we ALL know that a writer can be identified by an order number so therefore disclosing this would let you know who I am and I have seen from personal experience how you treated another writer that attempted to expose your scams.
So you spent over £4000 on LPC and THEN opted to become a legal executive on half the pay of a solicitor mmm that makes sense. :)
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| MAK |
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Nov 7, 08, 11:41AM
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@exwriter....
yea sounds shady...but who are we to comment(wink wink)....let the lady do what she likes with her li'l old life.
we are not the ones driving fancy cars and being paid tons of money to respond to people on the essayscam website...
Screenshots...yay! way to go AA.
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| exwriter |
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Nov 7, 08, 01:25PM
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I do note that she said she did the LPC she didn't say she passed the course though did she. Maybe that is what is at the root of her problems. Maybe that is why she supports the company undermining the BVC and LPC qualification by allowing students to cheat. Could be she feels she is paying the course directors back by assisting students to pass using someone else's work!!
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| JenniferAA |
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Nov 7, 08, 01:52PM
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As I said exwriter, I don't feel that my career choices have anything to do with this forum although I'm baffled as to why Mak thinks it's shady - it makes perfect sense that one might want to qualify as a legal executive first and then go down the solicitor route later? Especially since fellows are exempt from the training contract requirement. But anyway, I'm glad my qualifications give you some amusement :-D
Well, as always, I'd be happy to answer any questions that actually relate to why we're here although your personal comments are, as always, very entertaining :)
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| exwriter |
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Nov 7, 08, 02:45PM
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JenniferAA: As I said exwriter, I don't feel that my career choices have anything to do with this forum although I'm baffled as to why Mak thinks it's shady - it makes perfect sense that one might want to qualify as a legal executive first and then go down the solicitor route later? Especially since fellows are exempt from the training contract requirement. But anyway, I'm glad my qualifications give you some amusement :-D
so you did fail then ha ha. thought it might be too tough for you, and now you spend time discrediting these courses by encouraging students to cheat- you must be so proud of yourself.
How come your not still pursuing the solicitor route since passing your FILEX? there has to b more money in legal work then the job you are doing, believe me I speak from experience.
It's your lack of qualifications tha amuse me most jennifer lol
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| exwriter |
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Nov 7, 08, 03:22PM
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because I like adding fuel to the fire here is the experience a forum had with devereaux and deloitte where one of the employees threatening the forum claimd to be a barrister which was refuted by the bar council
http://forums.writersweekly.com/viewtopic.php?t=3717&start=0&postdays=0&pos torder=asc&highlight=
Maybe they are ALL barristers in that company. Maybe the bar council are actually the owners of this company (I think not)
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| JenniferAA |
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Nov 7, 08, 04:32PM
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exwriter, I'm very glad that I amuse you :-) and no, I didn't fail my course lol. Once again, I don't want to talk about my personal life in this forum - it's my business and really of no interest to the genuine users of this forum, the customers of essay companies. That's all I have to say about myself.
The post in the writers weekly - it looks like a disgruntled writer to me but I'm not going to waste my time reading through pages and pages of comments. There's no real evidence on there - I can't tell what's true and what's made up, and given that it goes back to 2004 it's not so easy for me to find out either. The entire post, from skimming through it, seems to hinge on whether someone in our company trained as a Barrister - and, as is fairly well known, Barclay did, before starting up his own company. So once again, I think it's just irrelavant to this forum and our discussion.
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| WritersBeware |
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Nov 7, 08, 04:34PM
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Jennifer, where did you attend "spin" school?
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| exwriter |
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Nov 7, 08, 05:57PM
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JenniferAA: The entire post, from skimming through it, seems to hinge on whether someone in our company trained as a Barrister - and, as is fairly well known, Barclay did, before starting up his own company. So once again, I think it's just irrelavant to this forum and our discussion. :)
But in that article above it wasn't Barclay making the declaration, it was some other guy who apparently had never been a member of the bar council. Oh and by the way passing the bar exams does not make someone a barrister, completing a pupillage and going into practice does.
When did you supposedly pass your LPC as your name will have appeared in the law society journal as all the law schools publish the names of the newly qualified students? You keep asking people to prove the complaints they make so I am sure you wont mind proving your qualifications especially as you are a self professed writer.
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| JenniferAA |
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Nov 7, 08, 06:29PM
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JenniferAA: Once again, I don't want to talk about my personal life in this forum - it's my business and really of no interest to the genuine users of this forum
Sorry that I sound like a broken record but sometimes you just have to keep repeating yourself until people get it! :-) I've said all I have to say on this post and I'm going to concentrate on what I'm here for, so feel free to chat amoungst yourselves! :)
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| WritersBeware |
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Nov 7, 08, 09:06PM
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exwriter: You keep asking people to prove the complaints they make so I am sure you wont mind proving your qualifications especially as you are a self professed writer.
Nice!
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| exwriter |
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Nov 7, 08, 11:35PM
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JenniferAA: Sorry that I sound like a broken record but sometimes you just have to keep repeating yourself until people get it! :-) I've said all I have to say on this post and I'm going to concentrate on what I'm here for, so feel free to chat amoungst yourselves! :)
So you cant prove your qualifications - fair enough. I guess anyone wanting a law essay writing from UKessays might want to ask for this not to be assigned to you - especially if they are LPC students lol.
And just what are you here for? to promote a dodgy essay writing site that treats its writers appallingly. Is the credit crunch hitting the company and students are having to decide whether to spend money on food and rent rather than exorbitantly priced toilet paper that MIGHT get them the grade they desire without having to change any of the content.
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Nov 8, 08, 12:08AM
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Make that used toilet paper . . . .
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| exwriter |
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Nov 8, 08, 12:21AM
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sent you the content of an email i received from jenny's company which proves the 300% fine i have mentioned in here
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| WritersBeware |
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Nov 8, 08, 01:38AM
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Jennifer, I told you that your shameless promotion would backfire. Keep it up.
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| exwriter |
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Edited by: exwriter Nov 8, 08, 08:45AM
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Jennifer tries to maintain that UKessays do not encourage plagiarism and that students do not normally submit these as their own- well if that is true why then was this article published in Feb 2008
http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/bystudents/Website-selling-essays-for-3 00.3825070.jp
Looks like plagiarism is rife and the main culprit encouraging this is UKessays.
see also this article in March 2008
http://durham21.iambigred.com/news/2008/durham-students-amongst-the-top-ess ay-cheats-in-the-uk/
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Edited by: exwriter Nov 9, 08, 02:28AM
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JenniferAA: exwriter, I'm very glad that I amuse you :-) and no, I didn't fail my course lol. Once again, I don't want to talk about my personal life in this forum - it's my business and really of no interest to the genuine users of this forum, the customers of essay companies. That's all I have to say about myself.
And the fact that you are not registered with the law society I think proves my point that you are not qualified as a solicitor. I was also amused to see that there are several links to you through google and in several you CLAIM to be a lawyer tut tut. Did you know it is a criminal act to pass yourself off as something you are not. In one such link you CLAIM to be a litigation LAWYER for Freeth Cartwright LLP however your name does not appear on their list of solicitors. I am guessing you worked for them as a legal executive but after failing the LPC decided to move on to your new role with ukessays.
I have expressed my concern about you claiming to be a lawyer to the law society so maybe you will also have a call from them as well as the bar council!
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