| snowfrost |
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Oct 22, 09, 08:58PM
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I searched and downloaded a program called Viper Plagiarisim Scanner from scanmyessay.com/
I scanned my partially completed essay; subsequently, I stumbled across a post that implied this program is not to be trusted.
Is this a trusted program? If it isn't, I have a feeling there is little I can do to stop them if they sell my essay to other parties or something like that...
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| WritersBeware |
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Oct 22, 09, 09:01PM
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I suggest that you carefully read everything that I posted about the one-sided nature of the company's contract.
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| snowfrost |
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Oct 22, 09, 09:08PM
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WritersBeware
Ah...you mean this post? http://www.essayscam.org/Forum/9/warning-use-viper-raptor-plagiarism-scanne r-waive-copyright-own-1062/
If only I came across this website sooner...
Anyway, thanks WritersBeware! You have saved tons of students and other people from fraudulent programs. I appreciate your help.
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| WritersBeware |
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Oct 22, 09, 09:53PM
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snowfrost: Anyway, thanks WritersBeware! You have saved tons of students and other people from fraudulent programs. I appreciate your help.
You're welcome.
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| snoopy |
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Oct 23, 09, 04:08PM
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Writersbeware is the man! (Or woman)
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| JenniferAA |
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Oct 28, 09, 12:01PM
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Hey guys,
I think it's only fair to say that some of the issues WB pointed out in his initial post have been dealt with or clarified - WB, would you not agree?
The program is certainly not fraudulent in any case. WB's issues as you'll see from the post are with our contract. His concern is that (in his opinion) we'll take students' essays and resell them through an essay bank. He found a link to an essay bank that we had set up in the past, but this was to allow students to sell their own essays. None of the essays in that bank are from Viper and this can be seen from the fact that they are sold by individual account holders. I think this bank has either been taken down now or is not linked from anywhere (this is what I believe but please correct me if I am wrong).
The contract allows us to retain a copy to use, so that other students can scan against previous essays submitted. WB is obviously still concerned that because we have this clause, we could potentially take those essays and sell them on in future. He believes that the terms of our contract allow us to do this.
All I can say to that (a) I don't believe the terms allow us to do this because selling the essays on is not the same as using a copy for the stated purpose - and (b) we have no intention of doing so, now or ever. I believe that if we did this, students would very quickly find out and it would be suicidal for the business from a PR point of view - not to mention the fact that arguably the students would be entitled to some of the proceeds and so could sue for damages.
I hope that I have presented both sides of the argument fairly WB - and of course your original thread and our discussion remains for people to review themselves.
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| humble |
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Oct 31, 09, 02:24PM
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JenniferAA: PR point of view
JEn:
Business do not need PR!!!!
PR is for governments and public organizations. Business need CR only.
Snow:
There is nothing like turnitin.com. They have a website where students can check their work without it being stored in turnitin's database.
P.S I was here all the time, though silent.
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| AsianWriter |
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Oct 31, 09, 02:46PM
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humble: Business do not need PR!!!! PR is for governments and public organizations. Business need CR only.
Actually, there are some big businesses that need PR. Drug companies or chemical companies for instance. They need PR to create trust, not just in their brands or in their products, but also in the companies processes and safety protocols. This isn't just for the buyers, but even for those indirectly affected by their products.
For instance, if I use pesticides in my corn field or garden, it would indirectly affect the surrounding areas and may poison steams that may also poison drinking water. The public needs to know that these pesticides will not harm their drinking water or the surrounding areas; hence, PR.
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| humble |
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Oct 31, 09, 03:21PM
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AsianWriter: Actually, there are some big businesses that need PR. Drug companies or chemical companies for instance. They need PR to create trust, not just in their brands or in their products, but also in the companies processes and safety protocols. This isn't just for the buyers, but even for those indirectly affected by their products. For instance, if I use pesticides in my corn field or garden, it would indirectly affect the surrounding areas and may poison steams that may also poison drinking water. The public needs to know that these pesticides will not harm their drinking water or the surrounding areas; hence, PR.
No my friend. They still need to focus only on customers, inform them. Customer focused does not mean being unethical. In the specific case you mentioned the Business would be wasting resources if it does PR. It would probably and should only cater to customers. This is what all businesses do, some just don't use the right words.
Some definitions from Google
customer - The person or group that is the direct beneficiary of a project or service. The people for whom the project is being undertaken (indirect beneficiaries are probably stakeholders). If the persons or group are internal within your company,...
customer - Groups or individuals who have a business relationship with the organization--those who receive and use or are directly affected by the products and services of the organization. ....
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| AsianWriter |
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Oct 31, 09, 03:28PM
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I guess we learn something everyday, don't we?
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| humble |
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Oct 31, 09, 10:47PM
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AsianWriter: I guess we learn something everyday, don't we?
Else we are dead!
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