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May 16, 08, 10:46AM
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Hello everyone,
I am another disappointed customer, and won't be the last for sure.
Anyways,
Don't trust this site on your papers at all, they are not reliable and will give you hardship and poor quality papers.
I placed an order Two weeks ago,, At the deadline, they come back and ask me for an extension, because of my good heart I gave them another extension for another 7 days like they requested. And at the second deadline, after 14 days on the paper, I call them and ask for an update on my paper.
I was shocked and frustrated; with complete disregard to any human emotions they tell me the writer JUST STARTED WORKING ON THE PAPER; and asked me for a third extension. WTF, you become forced to be in their cyclone, you can't leave because you already invested too much time with them, and won't be able to go to another essay company because of time constraints.....so you don't have a choice and just hope they finish the paper.
People be careful, if you want to use this company do it at least 60 days before the due date. And I personally advise against that, just don't even bother with them.
Best regards,
another failed customer
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 16, 08, 01:15PM
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Well, that's what happens when one does not research a company BEFORE ordering.
Superiorpapers.com is a notorious scam site from Ukraine. I have posted the proof of their Ukrainian location in this forum.
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| strugglingstudent |
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May 16, 08, 03:00PM
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WritersBeware: notorious scam site from Ukraine
WB why is it so important for you to re-iterate the location of these scam sites. all sites that do not give the student the paper they are paying for or the quality they expect are scams regardless of where they are located.
i notice that you never make comments such as essaybay is a scam site from the UK or essaytown is a scam site from the US. Surely if these or any other sites provide substandard work or fail to deliver at all then they are scam sites regardless of where they are from.
you are always commenting on how these ukranian sites are claiming to employ american writers only to attract US students and instead only use ESL writers. This is untrue as I applied to join academia research to see whether they were bothered about the nationality of their writers. I firstly posed as a US writer and they accepted me, then I applied using a different name as a UK writer which is my true location and was accepted, then I also pretended to be ukranian under a different name and was also accepted. So officially I could be working for them under several different names and locations.
I am now thinking of applying to some US companies in the same way and will report back with the results. will be interesing if they also let me sign up with three different locations wouldn't it?
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| WritersBeware |
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May 16, 08, 03:10PM
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That post is so utterly devoid of common sense that I do not know where to begin. I'll keep it simple:
The ONLY reason that I harp on the TRUE location of SuperiorPapers.com is because they LIE to American customers about being located in the US and using only qualified, master/PhD, AMERICAN writers. Is that so difficult for you to understand? They hire ESL writers left and right. Why do you have a problem with the truth?
I look forward to seeing your CONCRETE EVIDENCE about American and British companies. Am I supposed to be intimidated by your veiled threat to actually provide evidence? By all means--provide EVIDENCE for once!
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| strugglingstudent |
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May 16, 08, 03:32PM
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WritersBeware: look forward to seeing your CONCRETE EVIDENCE
hoping for a reply soon have emailed essaytown for a job under 3 identities claiming to be from three different locations. told them on one application that although i am from the ukraine i have written for several us students before with another company and had excellent feedback. If I get the job I will specifically see if they will let me write for a US student even though they know I am not in the US. That will blow your theory out the water that US companies will only get US writers for US students.
just about to do the same with a UK company. Research is so much fun lol
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| FrostatMidnight |
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May 16, 08, 04:25PM
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strugglingstudent: I am now thinking of applying to some US companies
Both UK and US companies take outside writers. I cannot provide their names here as they are continuing to work. But it's a fact.
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| WritersBeware |
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May 16, 08, 04:36PM
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FrostatMidnight: Both UK and US companies take outside writers. I cannot provide their names here as they are continuing to work. But it's a fact.
It's a "fact" because you say so? Do you have PROOF that every American/British company knowingly hires ESL writers who provide flawed writing in the English language? PLEASE POST THE EVIDENCE!
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| FrostatMidnight |
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May 16, 08, 04:42PM
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WritersBeware: It's a "fact" because you say so?
Yes, it is.
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May 16, 08, 04:51PM
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FrostatMidnight: Yes, it is.
Thank you for proving my point.
Your posts should be deleted.
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May 16, 08, 04:59PM
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WritersBeware: Thank you for proving my point
Do you have any evidence that they don't take outside writers? Do you have the list of their writers? Do you know the nationalities of these writers?
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 16, 08, 05:02PM
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FrostatMidnight: Do you have any evidence that they don't take outside writers? Do you have the list of their writers? Do you know the nationalities of these writers?
Nice try. Apparently you are not aware that, in the United States, one is innocent until PROVEN guilty. You are making the accusation, so YOU have to prove it.
What the hell is an "outside writer," anyway? The American and British companies that I have studied openly state that they hire native English-speaking writers from all of the major, "Western" countries. Again, like other fraud defenders, you are clearly confused by the obvious differences between nationality, location, and ESL product.
Do you not understand that a native English-speaking writer can be born in ANY country? My problem is NOT with certain writers' national origin. My problem is with ESL writers and companies that lie about being American in order to steal business from American customers who do NOT want an ESL writer to complete their order! Get it?
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| SolidSnake |
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May 16, 08, 05:25PM
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WB do you know if there is any reason why the thread where you covertly endorsed essaytown has been deleted???
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May 16, 08, 05:28PM
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WritersBeware: you are not aware that, in the United States, one is innocent until PROVEN guilty
The United States law need not be universal!!!
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May 16, 08, 05:33PM
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WritersBeware: Do you not understand that a native English-speaking writer can be born in ANY country?
You have a major problem. You believe that offence is the best form of defence. Pathetic! Why do you bring America into every arguments of yours? It it a case of convert being the biggest fanatic?
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| SolidSnake |
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May 16, 08, 05:40PM
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Seriously what happened to the thread where WB refused to tell 'theusstudent' that recommendations aren't allowed?
Why on earth would the moderator feel that thread had to be taken down?
Something just doesn't add up.
There's some serious inconsistencies going on here.
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| strugglingstudent |
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May 16, 08, 05:48PM
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You dont suppose its because I was trying to expose essaytown for employing ESL writers do you Solid?
It is kind of strange that certain sites can receive endorsements whilst others are ripped to shreds. Is there a linke here?
WB demands that MY posts are removed and the whole thread goes what happened to freedom of speech? There were no obscenities or slagging off of anyone and the thread is deleted. I wonder if the moderator is close friends of essaytown or one of the posters on here!
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| WritersBeware |
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May 16, 08, 05:53PM
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SolidSnake: WB do you know if there is any reason why the thread where you covertly endorsed essaytown has been deleted???
It's quite simple, guys. Read the rules of this forum. You can't post accusations and baseless conjecture that are not accompanied by facts. If you want your posts to remain online, all you have to do is include verifiable facts. Conjecture for the sake of furthering a personal vendetta/argument is not allowed here.
People--like solidsnake--who continue to post unproven, false accusations and baseless conjecture should be banned. Such members are knowingly/intentionally violating the rules of this forum and disrespecting the moderator. That is my stance on the matter.
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| SolidSnake |
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May 16, 08, 06:09PM
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WritersBeware: People--like solidsnake--who continue to post unproven, false accusations and baseless conjecture should be banned.
What on earth did i post which was unproven. After 'theusstudent' asked for a recommendation and slated essaytown, you did not say your usual "recommendations are NOT allowed". Instead you told theusstudent to read through the thread again to highlight essaytown should not have been crticised. Thats what you did. FACT.
Fair enough previous threads where i may have gone OTT were rightfully removed. However there was no way in hell that essaytown thread should have been removed. I'm quite shocked that it has.
I've a feeling WB tells the moderator which threads should be deleted and the moderator duly obliges.
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| WritersBeware |
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May 16, 08, 06:09PM
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strugglingstudent: You dont suppose its because I was trying to expose essaytown for employing ESL writers do you Solid? It is kind of strange that certain sites can receive endorsements whilst others are ripped to shreds. Is there a linke here? WB demands that MY posts are removed and the whole thread goes what happened to freedom of speech? There were no obscenities or slagging off of anyone and the thread is deleted. I wonder if the moderator is close friends of essaytown or one of the posters on here!
Here we go again with the false accusations and conjecture! You wonder why your posts get deleted?
When you have PROOF that a certain company is fraudulent, only THEN can you post about it. You may NOT post about your interim, personal opinion in an effort to libel or discredit ANY forum member or company. I have a ton of personal opinions that I could post in this forum, but do not. Why? I don't have the proper evidence to justify a PUBLIC statement.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 16, 08, 06:12PM
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SolidSnake: Instead you told theusstudent to read through the thread again to highlight essaytown should not have been crticised. Thats what you did. FACT.
You've twisted my original statement to suit your agenda. My original statement was not--in any way--an endorsement of any company. I clearly justified why and what I posted. I merely corrected a false statement, as I always do.
You continue to post false accusations against me, a third-party company, and--now--the moderator of this forum.
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| SolidSnake |
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May 16, 08, 06:14PM
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strugglingstudent: wonder if the moderator is close friends of essaytown or one of the posters on here!
ss there must be a causal link here. I feel the formula is criticise + essaytown = whole thread removed.
Do you think WB works for essaytown? Who knows, WB may even own essaytown? This essayscam site may belong to essaytown?
Probably just my own conspiracy theories.
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| SolidSnake |
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May 16, 08, 06:16PM
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WritersBeware: WRONG! I clearly justified why and what I posted.
I sincerely wish that thread can go up once more so everyone can see how you lie through your teeth. How can you say WRONG? What have I said which is incorrect?
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May 16, 08, 06:17PM
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WB can you justify not telling theusstudent that recommendations are not allowed on this site? Especially after there have been numerous occasions where you have stated "you may NOT ask for recommendations here"?
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May 16, 08, 06:27PM
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Solid, keep it up and you will be banned.
You read my justification for posting what I posted, and you continue to post false accusations.
Again, here is the precise breakdown of what transpired:
1. A new member started a thread, which, as with all new threads, I read.
2. Shortly afterwards, another member posted a misleading statement about the contents of that same thread.
3. As I always do, I issued a correction of the false reference.
4. The fact that the falsely referenced post happened to involve a certain company had absolutely nothing to do with my inclination to issue my correction. Based on Solidsnake's logic, I must own EVERY COMPANY that has been referenced in a post in which I have issued a factual correction. I don't think I need to elaborate on the absurdity of such logic. I have over 900 posts, the majority of which involve posting verifiable evidence and correcting false statements of irresponsible members like Solidsnake.
As of now, any member who suggests anything contrary to what I have formally stated above--without providing evidence--should be banned.
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| SolidSnake |
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May 16, 08, 06:28PM
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SIMPLE QUESTION:
WB can you justify not telling theusstudent that recommendations are not allowed on this site? Especially after there have been numerous occasions where you have stated "you may NOT ask for recommendations here"?
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 16, 08, 06:30PM
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SolidSnake: SIMPLE QUESTION: WB can you justify not telling theusstudent that recommendations are not allowed on this site? Especially after there have been numerous occasions where you have stated "you may NOT ask for recommendations here"?
LOL! I was quite clear with theusstudent well BEFORE your absurd accusations even began!
http://www.essayscam.org/Forum/14_531_0.html#msg6890
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May 16, 08, 06:33PM
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Yes but why is it when theusstudent's post included essaytown did you not resond with your customary "you may NOT ask for recommendations here"?
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May 16, 08, 07:46PM
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Jeez, WB cannot win.
First, she gets criticized for not being nice enough, then she gets criticized for not being mean enough.
C'est plus la change, c'est plus la meme chose.
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May 16, 08, 11:29PM
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Lavinia: First, she gets criticized for not being nice enough, then she gets criticized for not being mean enough.
A little consistency is all that's required.
Besided, my beef is mostly with the fact an entire thread got removed for reasons unknown.
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May 17, 08, 12:04AM
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SolidSnake: A little consistency is all that's required.
Give me a break. No other member is more consistent than me.
SolidSnake: Besided, my beef is mostly with the fact an entire thread got removed for reasons unknown.
That's a load of you-know-what. You're just mad because you can't post your standard accusations without evidence. That's all you do. You can't beat me with FACTS, so you resort to false accusations and baseless conjecture that you use in an attempt to sully my name. Once again, I invite you to post a single piece of EVIDENCE that proves ANY of your accusations against me.
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May 17, 08, 12:06AM
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Lavinia: Jeez, WB cannot win. First, she gets criticized for not being nice enough, then she gets criticized for not being mean enough.
Glad someone noticed the effort. ;)
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May 17, 08, 01:41AM
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WritersBeware: 2. Shortly afterwards, another member posted a misleading statement about the contents of that same thread.
actually all theusstudent said in the thread was
i was thinking of using essaytown but am not sure now having read the thread on here.
of course we cannot quote theusstudent direct because the thread has been removed but I remember the content because i responded to this too by quoting this on the thread to show that there was an indirect endorsement which was just before the whole thread was removed.
WritersBeware: When you have PROOF that a certain company is fraudulent, only THEN can you post about it.
actually that is not true... many people post on here when they believe they are getting ripped off ie writers when they haven't been paid or students still waiting for an essay and then sime retract their comments if the money is paid or the work materialises. there are loads of examples of this on here if you want evidence. i have included 2 for now were retractions were made.
http://www.essayscam.org/Forum/14_506_0.html
http://www.essayscam.org/Forum/14_342_0.html
this site is designed to forewarn writers and customers of potential scams and so obviously many are going to post before the companies have a chance to correct the error or make payments.
BTW mreng6 is waiting for his essay BEFORE he apologises and then if its rubbish I dont expect he will apologise, so at present his accusation still stands but his thread has not been removed for being POTENTIALLY inaccurate, whereas your indirect endorsement of essaytown has been removed and solid's analysis of your comments WAS accurate. More than a little inconsistency here!
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| WritersBeware |
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May 17, 08, 01:56AM
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Wrong. Period.
As suggest that you read:
http://www.essayscam.org/Forum/9_535_1.html#msg6998
You have been warned multiple times.
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May 17, 08, 03:08AM
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WritersBeware: Wrong. Period.
what is supposed to be wrong with my post? I have provided evidence of when others have made accusations agaianst companies and then retracted.
WritersBeware: You have been warned multiple times.
oohI am sooooo scared lol I have challenged WB ... provided evidence... made no false allegations and so am supposed to be worried about being banned... what for speaking the truth damn were did freedom of speech go. lol
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May 17, 08, 11:29AM
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There's no such thing as freedom of speech unless your name is WB of course.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 17, 08, 01:37PM
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SolidSnake and strugglingstudent:
This is not Jeopardy. Typing a baseless accusation in the form of a question is not acceptable. It is still a baseless accusation, and not allowed. Your obvious intent is to "get around" the rules of this forum in order to libel and discredit me in the hopes of casting a general shadow of doubt on all of my posts (in which I provide concrete proof about fraudulent enterprises).
Accusations and conjecture are not allowed:
"10. Posts and theories of speculative nature (as judged by the operators of this website) may be removed without warning."
http://www.essayscam.org/disclaimer_privacy.html
strugglingstudent: I have challenged WB ... provided evidence... made no false allegations
You have absolutely NOT provided evidence to support your accusations against ME!
I will explain ONE more time so that it gets through your THICK SKULLS.
1. You have made accusations that I own a site and/or work for a certain site. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF?
2. You have made accusations that ALL American and British companies hire unqualified, ESL writers (despite their public statements to the contrary). WHERE IS YOUR PROOF?
3. You have made accusations that a certain site/company OWNS EssayScam.org. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF?
4. You have made accusations that one of my posts was somehow meant as a "recommendation," even after me having flatly denied that to be the case and clearly justified what and why I posted. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF THAT I AM LYING ABOUT MY OWN REASON FOR POSTING WHAT I POSTED?
SolidSnake: Probably just my own conspiracy theories.
Damn right, and not allowed!
SolidSnake: There's no such thing as freedom of speech unless your name is WB of course.
You have no constitutional right to libel and defame me or any other person/entity via baseless conjecture.
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Edited by: Lavinia May 17, 08, 03:14PM
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SolidSnake: Besided, my beef is mostly with the fact an entire thread got removed for reasons unknown.
Technically, the whole thread was not removed. The thread is still here: http://www.essayscam.org/Forum/14_531_0.html#msg6890.
There were about 4-5 posts removed but the thread is still there.
I read the post asking about essaytown, WB's response and then the accusations. I can see why folks might have thought WB's response was an endorsement but I also think her explanation isn't crazy. WB had already yelled at someone for not asking for not using the board appropriately and expecting her to do so again doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
And, the thread suggesting that essaytown may have screwed up is still on the board. We'll see how that transaction went when the client posts an update. It is entirely possible that someone at essaytown saw the complaint and did a double check to make sure that the client was being taken care of... if that's what happened, then that's good for the client.
And no, I don't work for essaytown.
SolidSnake: There's no such thing as freedom of speech unless your name is WB of course.
WB, you, Struggling and I have all been "censored" by the mod. Remember that lovely thread where you first introduced yourself to the board.
Complaining about the mod is nonsense. This is a board with a mod. Don't like the mod, don't post. You're totally free to open your own forum and control it as you see fit.
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| SolidSnake |
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May 17, 08, 04:15PM
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That's not the thread Lavinia.
The entire thread was removed. I wonder why...
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Edited by: moneeeb May 17, 08, 05:25PM
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Well, I just requested a paper from essaytown, and I will see for myself if they are another un-reliable company or not. I personally don't care where the writers are from; even if they are from the moon I don't care. As long as I have good quality paper not plagiarized and on time I will accept it.
The Issue with superiorpaper, they don't value customers and are chewing more than they can handle. Right now they asked me for another extension. This is the 4th extension they asked for. They gave me insulting excuses such as the writer suddenly got sick and the system is down or they are having problems with the system. BS
They wait until the dead line and then ask for an extension, what kind of quality BS service is this. They should know if they can deliver the paper from the first date. But waiting and screwing all my plans, is very unprofessional way to handle their business.
I even asked them or should I say begged them to send me anything even if the paper is not done, they keep stalling me and promise me that the paper is almost done, they completely miss the point that I don't want the complete paper anymore, I want whatever is done and I will be satisfied. So I am at their mercy right now, and I will never deal with them again. And I am glad that I came across such a forum to check on unprofessional and un-reliable companies.
P.S I paid $300 dollars for my paper, and this is why I am frustrated. If it was $ 30 or even $100 I wont care as much.
Keep up the good work
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| Lavinia |
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May 17, 08, 09:06PM
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SolidSnake: That's not the thread Lavinia. The entire thread was removed. I wonder why...
So, there was another thread too? I am right in remembering that there were more posts on that linked thread and that they were removed, right?
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