| Hal9000 |
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Aug 11, 09, 05:24AM
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Hello everyone I am doing some research for a dissertation on the rational for using essays writing company's?
I would like to understand the motivation behind why students use essays writing services and how students can afford to by the huge sums of money that would seem prohibitively expensive for 99 % of the student population.
For example:
1) Pressure from parents to achieve unrealistic goals
2) Being let down by large class numbers and lack of individual attention for lecturers?
3) Illness of a family member
I would appreciate any help you could give me to help me
Thank you in advance
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| Emmy |
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Aug 11, 09, 05:54AM
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I can only speak from personal experience. I use the services because I have a full workload. I am a full time job ( currently serving in the Middle East), wife and kids, and go to college. if my deadline is given for a short amount of time, then I need to use the service. I don't have a lot of time to research and do a good paper. When I get the paper I do make it my own by using my writing style and understanding the information given.
Hope that helps in any way.
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| DodgingTheMud |
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Aug 11, 09, 02:27PM
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I really cannot claim to know why someone else would do it, but I believe that some subjects are truly useless to a student. When I was in school, there were two classes which I found to be so incredibly pointless that I could not fathom reading and learning the material. Considering I do think of myself as a student for life in both the literal and figiturave senses, this is a major statement.
That is why I considered using these types of resources during school.
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| pd2a3z000753 |
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Aug 12, 09, 04:25AM
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personally, I am trying to find a legitimate site right now because I need help with it too.
Well I'm trying to skim through this website to figure out good websites..
The thing is I work every day and don't really have time and I've spent 2 days trying to search for the right one. Just as Emmy said.
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| Hal9000 |
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Aug 13, 09, 04:18AM
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Thank you for your replies so far.
I am just interested in why you as an individual have chosen you use an essays writing company.
The more information the better, keep them coming
Thanks again for taking the time to answer the question
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| texaswriter |
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Aug 13, 09, 05:50PM
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Too many classes;
too much workload;
not confident enough with their own writing abilities;
forgot an assignment that is now due;
don't fully understand the assignment;
just don't want to do the work;
had a family emergency;
dog ate their original copy;
partied too much and are hung over;
waited too long to begin the assignment;
Am I missing anything?
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| Daz911 |
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Aug 15, 09, 05:00AM
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I am such a student, so here is my 2 penneth worth : course MBA
1 -I am 42, and I left the academic world a long long time ago, I spent 9 years at college (part time) and I am now faced with needing a degree as the company I work for will not take me on in the USA without one, which is BS as my college diplomas amount to better than a BA ! but, the VP made the rule, so I need the degree
2 - I have 3 kids, and just do not have the time to do the work, well I do, but after 10 hours at work, coming home and doing more is not really what I want to do)
3 - I earn a reasonable amount of money and when I consider the time it takes to do the work, compared with what I earn, it makes financial sense to pay someone else to do it for me.
4 - I am getting old, and I am lazy
5- I can't afford to fail
6- The course has cost me £5,000, so paying another £5000 to be sure of a pass in the shortest possible time makes financial sense (the sooner I pass, the sooner I can emigrate and earn more money :-))
7- need I go on ?
The key for me is, I can afford to pay the £23.95 per page, my time is precious and I need this degree asap
But, finding the right company is taking more time that doing the bloody work lol
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| kermitthefrog |
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Aug 15, 09, 09:46AM
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Daz911
"But, finding the right company is taking more time that doing the bloody work"
Amen to that !
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Edited by: FreelanceWriter Aug 15, 09, 10:06AM
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Hal9000: Hello everyone I am doing some research for a dissertation on the rational for using essays writing company's? I would like to understand the motivation behind why students use essays writing services and how students can afford to by the huge sums of money that would seem prohibitively expensive for 99 % of the student population. For example: 1) Pressure from parents to achieve unrealistic goals 2) Being let down by large class numbers and lack of individual attention for lecturers? 3) Illness of a family member
4) Most academic writing assignments outside of Composition class are useless because they have nothing to do with substantive knowledge and because very little of what is considered "legitimate" academic research at the college level is anything of the sort.
In my opinion, the process of writing papers teaches very little and nobody but people who will be writing for a living should have mandatory writing assignments in the first place. The vast majority of college-level papers don't qualify as genuine academic "research" anyway: students simply paraphrase everything and then cite it all to comply with the technical rules defining plagiarism.
Undoubtedly, the ability to express yourself in writing is important, which is why I think Composition classes make a lot more sense than assigned substantive academic "research" at the college level. As a matter of fact, a recent study of professional scientific journal submissions determined that even they plagiarize more often than not. (They identified particular mistakes in the actual citations that appeared over and over in different journals and determined that professional researchers often simply copy their supposed "primary sources" from the references in other published articles because they all contained the exact same mistake, like a specific comma or semicolon out of place or other identical typos in multiple papers which is statistically impossible for multiple independent researchers to make unless they're just copying and pasting the same mistakes in the citation of other articles.) In my opinion, fudged writing in professional scientific journals is a much more serious matter than in undergraduate academic writing.
In-class essay exams are a much better test of what students have actually learned than out-of-class writing assignments. I write tons of Education and Nursing papers simply because many people, including successful educators and nurses, hate writing and are lousy at it. Luckily, writing has nothing to do with being a great nurse, precisely because nursing is about knowing what drugs and procedures to administer and how to follow doctors' orders rather than about writing essays about the history of modern nursing or the discovery of penicillin. Same goes for what makes a good teacher. I also do a lot of dental school essays and doubt that any patients have suffered any worse dental care by virtue of dentists' not writing their own papers on root canals if any of those clients chose to submit my work for credit instead of using it as a writing guide. By definition, to the extent writing assignments allow students to choose their own essay topics in the first place, the actual subject matter of their papers is arbitrary and not "necessary" knowledge. For obvious reasons, I doubt that anybody whose future career requires extensive formal writing would need a ghostwriter.
Whatever ethical issues are violated by students who choose to turn in papers they didn't write, it's not as though any of them are applying for jobs as writers or writing instructors; for the vast majority of professionals, the last formal writing they ever had to do was in school anyway.
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Edited by: EW_writer Aug 15, 09, 11:04AM
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FreelanceWriter: In my opinion, fudged writing in professional scientific journals is a much more serious matter than in undergraduate academic writing.
Amen. If I had a penny for every article I had to reject because its cited materials didn't match the actual material from the articles where the author supposedly took them, well, I won't be rich but I'd certainly have enough money for all the bus rides I'd ever take. :)
FreelanceWriter: Whatever ethical issues are violated by students who choose to turn in papers they didn't write, it's not as though any of them are applying for jobs as writers or writing instructors; for the vast majority of professionals, the last formal writing they ever had to do was in school anyway.
Glad you have your way of justifying your job. We all have them, I guess. Mine goes something like it's the schools' darned job to stop us from doing what we do, and it's their continued incompetence that allows me to earn the extra cash I get from writing students' papers for them.
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Edited by: FreelanceWriter Aug 15, 09, 11:22AM
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EW_writer: Glad you have your way of justifying your job. We all have them, I guess. Mine goes something like it's the schools' darned job to stop us from doing what we do, and it's their continued incompetence that allows me to earn the extra cash I get from writing students' papers for them.
Speak for yourself and spare me your constant hypocritical tone on the topic of ethics that you repeat ad nauseum. I'm not "justifying" anything: all the companies that use me make every possible attempt to discourage improper use of the product, and we already know your opinion about that, too.
The question was why students would choose to submit other people's work for their own and I'm simply suggesting one reason is that there's arguably little value to typical academic writing assignments outside of composition class and engineering, nursing, and dental students (etc.) know that they won't ever need to do much formal writing in their careers anyway. I doubt that many students whose future careers require extensive writing would use the writing of others as their own.
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| EW_writer |
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Aug 15, 09, 11:43AM
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FreelanceWriter: Speak for yourself and spare me your constant hypocritical tone on the topic of ethics that you repeat ad nauseum. I'm not "justifying" anything:
Hey... calm down, I hope you didn't think that I was trying to insult you or anything. >.<
FreelanceWriter: all the companies that use me make every possible attempt to discourage improper use of the product, and we already know your opinion about that, too.
Do you mean those short statements somewhere at the bottom of nearly every major essay mill site where they say "our products are model papers only"? :D Yeah... I'm sure they count as "every possible attempt" to you. Goodnight. ^_^
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| rustyironchains |
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Aug 15, 09, 07:17PM
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they either can't do it, or they won't.
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| zaida |
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Nov 27, 11, 06:29AM
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From personal experience, its pressure I mean i went away on a holiday and missed out 3 and half wks of in put when i returned i at all had no clue as to what i was suppose to do. assignments were all due in a week after each other which left me with no alternative but to turn to them .
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| mishmash |
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Nov 27, 11, 07:06PM
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1 - Too dumb to complete Uni
2 - Can't be bothered
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| MeoKhan |
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Nov 28, 11, 02:58PM
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I'm intrigued to see a years old thread being revived. Nice job.
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| mishmash |
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Nov 28, 11, 07:15PM
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2 years actually :)
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