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May 25, 09, 08:19PM
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Hey, EW_writer, didn't you mention that you applied for employment with ET and got rejected?
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May 25, 09, 11:40PM
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WritersBeware: Hey, EW_writer, didn't you mention that you applied for employment with ET and got rejected?
I never applied. I'm pretty sure I'd get rejected though since I can't provide the tax papers that they require. Now, let's get back to the issue at hand.
I claimed that both EW and ET condone academic fraud.
WritersBeware CHALLENGED my statement, saying that I HAVE NO PROOF that ET condones academic fraud.
What did I do? Well, I CONCEDED to WritersBeware of course! Since she's claims to have conducted several test orders on ET, I'm sure that we can trust her statements.
Therefore, students should be forewarned. Since WritersBeware herself claims that ET DOES NOT condone academic fraud, buying from the company puts students at serious risk if they intend to submit purchased work for academic credit.
So students, beware! Buy from ET ONLY if you don't intend to submit what you bought for credit. Otherwise, you may be signing your own expulsion papers.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 25, 09, 11:44PM
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Here we go again, mod.
I already addressed his slimy lies and defamation at http://www.essayscam.org/Forum/9_1023_0.html#msg15264 :
WritersBeware: Another bold-faced lie from EW_writer. What's your basis for making this outlandish claim (besides unscrupulous, lawless, competitor-driven libel) against ET? Again, I ask, do you have ANY proof whatsoever? Nope. You're vermin, completely void of ethics. Hell, I can easily prove both of your absurd claims wrong simply by pointing to ET's advertised policy of deleting customers' order information after a short period. If a university were to "ask" for a customer's information, I am quite positive that ET or any other company would simply laugh at the request and not respond. Even if your IMAGINARY, WILL-NEVER-HAPPEN-IN-MILLION-YEARS action by "the American government" were to take place and "compel" ET to provide such information, the company could only "give up" what its systems have saved, which is basically nothing. Nice try, genius. YOU GET OWNED AGAIN—what's new? |
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 25, 09, 11:46PM
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EW_writer also seems to have a problem answering direct questions about his smokescreen tactics:
WritersBeware: I ask one more time—what's your obsession with ET? What, exactly, does YOUR Ukrainian employer's filthy fraud have to do with ET or any other legitimate company? Why do you keep dragging ET into every thread and trying to deflect focus away from your employer's multitude of scams, deception, and fraud? |
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May 25, 09, 11:50PM
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WritersBeware: Hell, I can easily prove both of your absurd claims wrong simply by pointing to ET's advertised policy of deleting customers' order information after a short period. If a university were to "ask" for a customer's information, I am quite positive that ET or any other company would simply laugh at the request and not respond.
and THAT's not condoning academic fraud? :p
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You can't have your cake and eat it too, numskull. The thing is, if ET condones academic fraud, then it's just as illegitimate as the rest of us. If it does not condone academic fraud, then students shouldn't buy from it lest they risk getting caught by their universities.
Either way, you lose... and I win yet again. ^_^
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 26, 09, 12:01AM
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EW_writer: If a university were to "ask" for a customer's information, I am quite positive that ET or any other company would simply laugh at the request and not respond.
Hey, moron, thats called "protecting a customer's privacy." ANY company in ANY industry would do the same. Again, your desperation stinks.
EW_writer: students shouldn't buy from it lest they risk getting caught by their universities
Moron and morally-bankrupt ET competitor, please explain EXACTLY how that would EVER happen. Oh, wait—I already CRUSHED you:
WritersBeware: I can easily prove both of your absurd claims wrong simply by pointing to ET's advertised policy of deleting customers' order information after a short period. If a university were to "ask" for a customer's information, I am quite positive that ET or any other company would simply laugh at the request and not respond. Even if your IMAGINARY, WILL-NEVER-HAPPEN-IN-MILLION-YEARS action by "the American government" were to take place and "compel" ET to provide such information, the company could only "give up" what its systems have saved, which is basically nothing. Nice try, genius. YOU GET OWNED AGAIN—what's new?
EW_writer: Either way, you lose... and I win yet again. ^_^
Now THAT is hilarious. Any unbiased person reading this thread can clearly see that I have trounced you for the 10,000th time. Isn't it funny how truth and evidence ALWAYS defeat crooks and their baseless lies? It's quite frustrating for you, isn't it? :)
EW_writer: just as illegitimate as the rest of us
Nope, sorry—just you.
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May 26, 09, 12:02AM
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EW_writer: The thing is, if ET condones academic fraud, then it's just as illegitimate as the rest of us.
Now thats a valid argument which affrims that ALL writing companies are fraud.
Why debate about legitimacy when the very basis of the argument affirms that providing academic aid to students is unethical. Those who worry about legitamacy should clearly not be in this business at all.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 26, 09, 12:05AM
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dearbats: Now thats a valid argument which affrims that ALL writing companies are fraud.
Do you know precisely what the American laws state regarding the legality of academic research sites? I do. Obviously, you don't, so please don't post baseless conjecture as fact.
The illegal activity of EW_writer's employer is based in its lies, misrepresentations, fake identities, etc., NOT on the fact that it sells example papers.
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May 26, 09, 12:11AM
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WritersBeware: The illegal activity is based in the the lies, misrepresentation, fake identities, etc. of certain companies, NOT that all companies sell example papers.
No matter which way you put it, selling homework constitutes academic f*cking fraud and any company who does so is as illegitimate as the rest.
WritersBeware: Do you know precisely what the American laws state regarding the legality of academic research sites? I do. Obviously, you don't, so please don't post baseless conjecture as fact.
Oh, are you saying the U.S. laws actually allow companies to sell homework? :p
dearbats: Why debate about legitimacy when the very basis of the argument affirms that providing academic aid to students is unethical. Those who worry about legitamacy should clearly not be in this business at all.
Amen.
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May 26, 09, 12:13AM
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WritersBeware: NOT on the fact that it sells example papers.
Oh ho ho... so ET only sells example papers? Can we have a confirmation of this from you? Students are only supposed to use papers they bought from ET as examples and not submit them for academic credit, RIGHT? ^___^
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 26, 09, 12:15AM
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EW_writer: h ho ho... so ET only sells example papers? Can we have a confirmation of this from you? Students are only supposed to use papers they bought from ET as examples and not submit them for academic credit, RIGHT? ^___^
I don't make the laws, simpleton. The LAWS apply to ANY and ALL research companies operating in and through the UNITED STATES. Get it, crook? The laws apply to your FRAUDULENT employer, as well.
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Edited by: dearbats May 26, 09, 12:16AM
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WritersBeware: Do you know precisely what the American laws state regarding the legality of academic research sites?
I am not posting baseless conjecture as facts, its my personal opinion.
The fact that I am trying to reiterate here is that providing academic help to students is unethical and immoral.
Those who condemn such acts should not be in this business, simply because such acts are tantamount to cheating and fraud. Irrespective of who conducts the fraud (American or other ESL companies) the magnamity of the fraud is not reduced.
Whether you like it or not, the fact remains that ALL writing companies are to a greater or lesser extent engaged in fraud, because they are providing academic help to students.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 26, 09, 12:22AM
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dearbats: Now thats a valid argument which affrims that ALL writing companies are fraud.
That is a statement of fact, NOT an "opinion." You are wrong.
dearbats: ALL writing companies are to a greater or lesser extent engaged in fraud
Sorry, still wrong. There is absolutely NOTHING fraudulent about selling one's own writings. What makes EW_writer's employer fraudulent is the vast assortment of illegal and/or deceptive acts in which an investigator has proven that it engages in order to fool customers, writers, and governments.
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May 26, 09, 12:29AM
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WritersBeware: I don't make the laws, simpleton. The LAWS apply to ANY and ALL research companies operating in and through the UNITED STATES. Get it, crook? The laws apply to your FRAUDULENT employer, as well.
Oh, but that's not answer to my question at all.
EW_writer: so ET only sells example papers? Can we have a confirmation of this from you? Students are only supposed to use papers they bought from ET as examples and not submit them for academic credit, RIGHT? ^___^
You don't make the laws, but you claim to KNOW them perfectly, right? So answer the questions.
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Edited by: dearbats May 26, 09, 12:30AM
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Deception is the very basis of this business. When papers are bought and sold to be submitted to get a higher or better grade, isn't that deception? Aren't both parties equally responsible for the fraud?
How can the act be ethical when conducted by an American company/writer and unethical when an ESL writer/company engages in such acts?
Revelation about the identity of writers is a secondary issue. Its like debating that an act of theft conducted by an American is acceptable but the same act when conducted by an individual of some other nationality is not.
Obvioulsy, when the very nature of a business is based on extremely shaky grounds, the debate about morality seems absurd to me.
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Edited by: dearbats May 26, 09, 12:42AM
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WB, should I assume that if a writing company operating on the web, does not reveal its true location or the identity of its writers, you would affirm the company to be legitimate?
In such a case, would there would be no issues about legitamcy of such a business?
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May 26, 09, 01:21PM
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dearbats: WB, should I assume that if a writing company operating on the web, does not reveal its true location or the identity of its writers, you would affirm the company to be legitimate?
I'm sorry, but that question is a tad confusing.
This is a focused thread concerning specific, verifiable evidence about a particular entity. Let's keep it that way, please.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 26, 09, 01:24PM
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dearbats: How can the act be ethical when conducted by an American company/writer and unethical when an ESL writer/company engages in such acts?
You clearly don't get the point, even though it has been explained quite nicely in this forum by at least three different members—Lavinia, FreelanceWriter, and me. I'm sure that OxbridgeResearchers could educate you on the stark differences, as well. I will not waste my time when all you need to do is read old posts.
You may also want to read this blog to get an idea of exactly who/what you are defending.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 26, 09, 01:32PM
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EW_writer: Oh, but that's not answer to my question at all.
Oh, but it is, criminal. Don't blame me because you are a shameless deceiver and admitted fraud who breaks laws and regulations as the very backbone of his business model. Again—since you refuse to grasp/admit the simple concept—ANY essay company that operates in or through the US is legally bound by the EXACT SAME laws. Any answer that I give to your irrelevant question would apply to YOUR fraudulent employer, as well. Understand, or do you still need more help?
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 26, 09, 01:54PM
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Look, EW_fraudster, I've been holding this back for a while because I wanted to lure you in even further, as I always do, but I just can't wait to prove that your dirty arguments are borderline-retarded.
The following text appears on the Terms and Conditions page of EW_writer's employer's main site for customers:
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The research material that we provide to you is available as a unique reference that is designed to assist you in the completion of your [own] assignments and or academic obligations.
It is also understood that we do not make any guarantees regarding your grades and that our agreement is strictly to provide you with an original reference document
Intellectual property is owned by the company and the customer has the exclusive permission and right to use the paper however they wish for 6 months. After the 6 month term period has passed the company retains all rights of the paper [and the company may resell the paper through EssayMill.com, MightyStudents.com, or any one of its other ESSAY DATABASE sites]
The products we provide are reference materials are not intended to be submitted as completed works and are to be used strictly for the purpose of assistance in writing your own assignments.
SOURCE:
bestessays.com/disclaimer.php
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EW_writer, you got OWNED, as usual!
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EW_writer: No matter which way you put it, selling homework constitutes academic f*cking fraud and any company who does so is as illegitimate as the rest.
Yes, it is dishonest to submit our work for academic credit. Reputable companies try to discourage that use of their work but cannot possibly police what students choose to do once our work is in their hands. That issue is obviously the same regardless of where a paper company is located or whether ESL or native English speakers write the paper.
The fraud charge has to do with ripping off customers by providing plagiarized work when you promise them all-original material and with making claims about being located in the U.S. and/or about using only American writers when you're actualy located elsewhere and use ESL writers.
The fact that you continually confuse those two very simple issues suggests either that you're an idiot or that you're simply a resentful competitor of the companies whose success you envy. I'm not discounting the possibility that both are true, either.
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May 26, 09, 02:36PM
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FreelanceWriter: I'm not discounting the possibility that both are true, either.
LMAO!
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May 26, 09, 06:24PM
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WritersBeware: Intellectual property is owned by the company and the customer has the exclusive permission and right to use the paper however they wish for 6 months. After the 6 month term period has passed the company retains all rights of the paper [and the company may resell the paper through EssayMill.com, MightyStudents.com, or any one of its other ESSAY DATABASE sites]
Crushing evidence ... debate over
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Edited by: EW_writer May 27, 09, 01:18AM
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WritersBeware: Intellectual property is owned by the company and the customer has the exclusive permission and right to use the paper however they wish for 6 months. After the 6 month term period has passed the company retains all rights of the paper [and the company may resell the paper through EssayMill.com, MightyStudents.com, or any one of its other ESSAY DATABASE sites]
Cool, so in that case, the company DOES warn the students that it will resell in 6 months... which is exactly the way ET does it. So what's your problem? o.O
WritersBeware: You're confusing two very different issues: 1. Academic Dishonesty and 2. Commercial Fraud.
Oh, and one is not as bad as the other? :p Look like I said, feel free to try to close us down. Do your best! I'll even cheer you on! Hip-hip! ^__^
But at the end of the year, I'll be here still...
to tell you, your crops, weren't worth their till.
Hoohahh! ^___^
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May 27, 09, 01:28AM
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You
Got
OWNED
Ten
Ways
From
Sunday!
Have a nice day, crook.
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May 27, 09, 01:37AM
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Oh I will. Kicking your a** always cheers me up. ^__^ 'Till next time. :D
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 27, 09, 01:45AM
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Everyone knows that I just pummeled you for the millionth time, yet you continue to post these utterly absurd statements about having "kicked my *ss." Yeah, OK, crazy. Such denial is an inherent part of your criminal psychosis—lie, deny, cheat, and steal at all times and at all costs.
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May 27, 09, 01:49AM
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WritersBeware: Everyone knows that I just pummeled you for the millionth time, yet you continue to post these utterly absurd statements about having "kicked my *ass." Yeah, OK, crazy. Such denial is an inherent part of your criminal psychosis—lie, deny, cheat, and steal at all times and at all costs.
By everyone.. do you mean everyone here.... or everyone.... in your mind....? :D
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 27, 09, 01:51AM
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OxbridgeResearchers: Crushing evidence ... debate over
Yeah, one would naturally assume that the debate would be over, especially after such an embarrassing defeat. However, you underestimate EW_writer's habit of creating a new thread to distract people every time he gets crushed. Get this—he's actually claiming, in the new thread, that HE won. LOL!
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May 27, 09, 02:12AM
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WritersBeware: one would naturally assume that the debate would be over,
Yes ... I am beginning to realise that FACTS carry little weight ...
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