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Oct 11, 08, 09:42PM
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know of any fraud activity for this site? there seems to be evidence of fraudulent activity on the net.
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| WritersBeware |
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Oct 11, 08, 10:08PM
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I have investigated the site in the past and there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE of fraud or false advertising.
FYI, a single "complaint" online, against ANY site, does NOT mean that the site is "fraudulent."
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Oct 12, 08, 01:06AM
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I also write for MP. As I said about essaytown, if you think they're a fraud, you can also request me for a paper from them and you'll get your paper exactly as ordered. Even if it's out of my academic areas, someone else will write it after I notify the company that I'm declining the request for me.
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| deluca |
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Oct 12, 08, 03:04AM
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what are your academic areas freelance?
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Oct 12, 08, 09:54AM
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It would be easier for you to just ask whether I handle Law, or Psychology, or Nursing papers (etc.) if you're looking to take me up on my test of essaytown than for me to type out every single subject I write, wouldn't it? I do many different subjects.
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Edited by: FreelanceWriter Oct 12, 08, 01:25PM
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[What happened to the Edit function? Is it only available within a certain amount of time after your original posts?]
If you have access to aol, most of my areas are listed there in my profile, but I handle more than a dozen different academic areas and I don't take any jobs if I'm not completely confident in my ability to provide a high quality paper.
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| deluca |
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Oct 13, 08, 06:16AM
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writersbeware, do you have any comments for the high confidence and claims of freelance (esp about himself as writer).
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Oct 13, 08, 11:59AM
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deluca: writersbeware, do you have any comments for the high confidence and claims of freelance (esp about himself as writer).
I have said only that I have been writing for several sites mentioned here and that they are all totally legitimate enterprises that deliver whatever essays their websites "claim" to deliver. A few people (other than deluca, whose work I declined his morning) have hired me from here and they will eventually be able to vouch for my work.
I guess I'm also "claiming" not to be a fraud, since frauds don't turn down any prepaid work, especially from students located abroad.
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| deluca |
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Oct 15, 08, 05:47AM
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dude freelance, i DID NOT confirm any work with you. just discussed something. stop giving urself so much importance dude.
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| deluca |
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Oct 15, 08, 05:50AM
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checked with madpapers.com. they dont even have expertise for more advanced topics, but rather little kid's essays and small papers. not too many reliable and good expertise sites out there.
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| bambi |
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Jan 20, 09, 03:14PM
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madpapers.com?
I am confused on them, because they belong to the SRN group together with phd-dissertations.com and essaytown.com. I had very ambigious experiences with one of the members of the student research network group such as phd-dissertations.com. I ordered two master essays from them, one in accounting, the other one in some general research topic, the first one being totaly and fully spitted on by my professors as non integrated and totaly missed the topic (the writer had to write on management accounting however he/she was mixing the terms of financial accounting with management accounting), whereby the second essay on a more general topic was relatively fine, although it didn't bring me some nice grade.
WB seem to be avoding any negative comments on any of the SRN Group websites. I am somehow becoming suspicious on the quality of work they can render.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jan 20, 09, 03:40PM
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Bambi, there is nothing for me to "avoid." There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the company engages in any form of fraud or deception. In fact, my in-depth investigation of the company proved that all claims on its sites are true. Do you expect me to falsely claim that the company is "fraudulent" just to satisfy your irrationality?
ALL legitimate companies (Sears, Apple, IBM, Ford, etc.) receive an occasional complaint--that's part of business. As inherent in human nature, there will always be momentary hiccups, unreasonable customers, or, like YOU, customers who admit to cheating and do not have sufficient mastery of the English language to make claims about the "quality" of a paper. What makes a company "fraudulent" is not an occasional complaint, but the incessant deception and fraud that constitute its very business model, as is the case with SuperiorPapers.com, EssayWriters.net, EssayCapital.com, MasterPapers.com, etc.
I also can't help but notice that you have presented absolutely NO EVIDENCE that you even placed any orders, but you managed to use your post to attack me. So, in short, I think you're full of shite.
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| pheelyks |
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Jan 20, 09, 03:57PM
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Not sure exactly what I'm allowed (or rather, not allowed) to say here, but I work for one of the companies bambi mentioned. I have always been paid on time and in full, and deliver quality work. There might be a complaint here or there--I've dealt with some disgruntled customers myself--but that's business.
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Jan 20, 09, 04:11PM
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My dearest WB,
thank you for the reply. Nobody has attacked you. The remark was stated that you seem to be favoring the SRN Group websites. I am relatively new to this forum, and have read majority of your almost 2000 responses, and I am quite impressed by your decisiveness and persistance in fighting the fraudulent websites. In respect of the SRN Group, it is also my belief that they are not a fraudulent business model, it troubles me the quality of the paper they can render (based on my two experiences with them). On the other hand, asking for assistance in writing is no cheating at all and that is clearly stated in the FAQ of any of the SRN group web sites, the group that you seem to be hidenly supporting over this forum, so why are you then accusing? Here I base my conclusion on your discussion with the user "strugling student" who made a very profound argument on your bias towards the websites of the above stated group (discussion referred to essaytown.com).
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jan 20, 09, 04:39PM
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bambi: Nobody has attacked you.
I'm sorry, but when you issue false accusations, that's an attack.
bambi: Here I base my conclusion on your discussion with the user "strugling student" who made a very profound argument on your bias towards the websites of the above stated group (discussion referred to essaytown.com).
Well, strugglingstudent was just as incorrect as you in his/her accusations, and I believe that I've already proved such, so I will not waste my time doing so again.
I have conducted in-depth investigations of EVERY major company in the industry. When an investigation reveals fraudulent practices, I post the results here. So, I know exactly which companies are fraudulent and which are legitimate. Since the RULES of this forum dictate that I may not publicize/recommend any site that my investigations have PROVEN to be legitimate, I refrain from doing so. (Yes, I know, how shocking that I actually try to abide by the T & C of the forum.) Therefore, in keeping with the very PURPOSE of this site, I concentrate on the sites that SCAM both writers and consumers.
Again, I refer you to the NAME of this site: "Essay Scam." This site was created as a vehicle for writers and consumers to warn each other about fraudulent companies. That is PRECISELY what I do. What I absolutely NEVER do is recommend that people patronize any particular site, neither publicly nor via private message. I'm sorry that you have failed to grasp the concept of the site.
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| bambi |
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Jan 20, 09, 04:58PM
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ok WB,
I get your point. Please don't take my "accussations" to personally. There was no intention of attacking you. It was just my impression that you might have been overprotecting towards the stated SRN group in some of your eloquent threads. I understand that you've conducted significant research and you've assured yourself that SRN group is not one of the fraudulent schemes. As already stated: This is my impression as well.
However, in respect of the name of this site: "EssayScam" please consider that SRN group guarantees to deliver quality on each of their websites. However, so far I haven't got much quality from them. My claim in respect of quality might be therefore fitted into the category "presenting themselves for something they seem not to be providing" which might be labeled as a deception, and as such discussed on the website, based on the T&C. Please note, I accept previous statements that few complaints don't neccesary mean someting negative. Afterall, I had just two essays with them, of which one was a true dissapointment.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jan 20, 09, 06:23PM
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bambi: please consider that SRN group guarantees to deliver quality on each of their websites. However, so far I haven't got much quality from them.
I'm sorry, but I stand by my assertion that you are not fully qualified to judge "quality" writing in the English language due to the fact that you are an ESL speaker. You are incorrectly relating "quality" to the comments and grade that you received from the instructor.
bambi: totaly missed the topic (the writer had to write on management accounting however he/she was mixing the terms of financial accounting with management accounting)
Your professor's personal opinion regarding TOPICAL CONGRUENCY is not a barometer for "quality." Professors OFTEN give a lower grade when they suspect, but cannot prove, that the student plagiarized or hired a ghost writer. Since your own text contains obvious signs of an ESL writer, it's no surprise that your professor would have such suspicions. Plus, you could have provided inaccurate or incomplete specifications in your original order. The only way for you to prove otherwise is to post the original order specifications that you submitted through their order form (which I doubt is possible) and the paper that you received.
If you read their sites, you will note that they offer free amendments if the writer does not adhere to the original specifications of the order. Since you have not mentioned doing so, I doubt that you requested a free amendment.
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| exwriter |
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Jan 20, 09, 11:44PM
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bambi: the first one being totaly and fully spitted on by my professors as non integrated and totaly missed the topic (the writer had to write on management accounting however he/she was mixing the terms of financial accounting with management accounting), whereby the second essay on a more general topic was relatively fine, although it didn't bring me some nice grade.
Which kind of indicates that you submitted the work as your own, which is NOT the purpose of ANY of these essay writing sites, though MANY turn a blind eye to this.
You can get GOOD and BAD writers on EVERY site, that does not make the company a SCAM. The scam comes when the company LIE about their location AND tell you that the writer was an EFL writer when in fact they KNOW that this was not the case.
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Jan 21, 09, 02:31AM
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WB,
if marker's oppinion is not a barometar for quality, what is then? The comments from the marker were: the paper is sometimes confusing, there has to be more connection between points made and the main topic of the paper. Basicaly, what I received in both of them (final papers after revision amendment) was lot's of points made, but none of them researched in depth. Is that quality according to you? How do you define it then? Thanks.
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Jan 21, 09, 02:39AM
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exwriter,
what is the solely purpose of those sites then, what is the purpose of their concomitance?
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jan 21, 09, 02:58AM
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Bambi, please READ my previous post.
If you're not going to post the original order specifications that you submitted through their order form (which I doubt is possible) and the paper that you received, it's impossible for ANYONE to accurately address your claims.
You are also an admitted cheater, which immediately calls both your integrity and honesty into question.
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| bambi |
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Jan 21, 09, 03:07AM
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once again, asking for assistance with writing is not cheating than a legitimate action! That is what any of the SRN Group websites advertise and claim. I would say that I am being honest and not deceptive.
It's basicaly the same as if you are a manager at some enterprise, and ask your subordinates to prepare a report on company's activities, which you then as a manager present to the Board. Is that cheating? Well, I would say it's delegating the work, same as here!
BTW, you even answer very early in the morning, respect!
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Jan 21, 09, 11:32AM
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bambi: what is the solely purpose of those sites then, what is the purpose of their concomitance?
the essays are supposed to be as a reference only, in the same sort of way that one would go to the library and borrow a textbook or journal. the answers will be written in a manner to show the customer the required format etc, and the proper way to reference. Any quotes included by the writer can be used by the customer so long as the writer properly referenced the quote. Its a bit like looking at past exam papers and model answers. The idea is for the customer to take the information supplied in the paper and then out that in their own words.
You say there is no difference between a student paying a writer to do their work then there is for a manager to get a member of staff to do a report, the difference is that the manager will give credit to the person producing the report, and also is not using the work to get qualifications to further their own career.
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Jan 22, 09, 04:26PM
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I 've just sent my order to madpapers.com.
Will wait for the result.
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| exwriter |
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Edited by: exwriter Jan 22, 09, 11:25PM
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bobman: Why don't you write just from yourself
Now why would you put the above on 1 post and then
bobman: I 've just sent my order to madpapers.com
on another, doesn't add up really, does it?
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Jan 23, 09, 04:07AM
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I have hoped that these forums will help me find a good writing company.
However, I couldn't find any information that will help me.
So, I just contacted a few places and madpapers.com were first to react.
When I will receive my order, I'll give you my opinion about them.
Maybe this will help someone. Maybe not.
(English is not my first language.)
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| bambi |
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Jan 23, 09, 04:43AM
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bobman,
what you stated might be true, however by reviewing this forum you will be able to depict certain writing companies which are not worth of your time and resources. Keep us posted on the outcome of your madpapers project.
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Jan 26, 09, 08:32PM
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Bobman, what was your topic?
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Oct 1, 10, 04:11PM
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Could you share your opinion abt madpapers.com?
I guess you've got ut order.
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Oct 1, 10, 10:09PM
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I've been writing for them since 2003. Not "recommending" that you use any site or freelance writer, but they are definitely 100% legit.
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Oct 2, 10, 10:03AM
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I've known several PhD writers who write for BestEssays.com (top experts in their fields). OF COURSE, I do not recommend to use BestEssays.com, but they are definitely 100% legit and will provide top papers for reasonable price.
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Oct 2, 10, 10:47AM
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stu4: I've known several PhD writers who write for BestEssays.com (top experts in their fields). OF COURSE, I do not recommend to use BestEssays.com, but they are definitely 100% legit and will provide top papers for reasonable price.
Only an idiot would believe that any "top experts" in any academic field are really writing papers for essay writing companies and only an idiot would make that claim. I don't know anything about that company but I'd suggest that customers completely avoid any advice or recommendations from this poster about anything.
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stu4: (top experts in their fields)
i agree with FreelanceWriter. Stu4, how can you expect anyone to take you seriously when you say something so ridiculous?
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Oct 2, 10, 05:12PM
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jwolfe2: i agree with FreelanceWriter. Stu4, how can you expect anyone to take you seriously when you say something so ridiculous?
I was just trying to prove the point that FreelanceWriter is so full of shi*t that it's hard to believe. He writes "I don't recommend them but they are the best" - who is this pathetic creature who would sell his own mother for a quick buck trying to fool?
He knows well it is not allowed to 'recommend' a company here, but he still thinks he outsmart the system by writing "I don't recommend them but they do a good job."
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Oct 3, 10, 02:56AM
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stu4: I was just trying to prove the point that FreelanceWriter is so full of shi*t that it's hard to believe. He writes "I don't recommend them but they are the best" - who is this pathetic creature who would sell his own mother for a quick buck trying to fool? He knows well it is not allowed to 'recommend' a company here, but he still thinks he outsmart the system by writing "I don't recommend them but they do a good job."
Actually, I was very careful not to say anything about them besides that they're "100% legit" and I never said any of those other things you falsely attributed to me in quotes and in bold text. My post is right above yours and, as everybody knows, these posts can't be edited more than 15 minutes after being posted originally.
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Oct 7, 10, 03:32AM
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Just to chime in, I'm one of the people who have hired FreelanceWriter from this site. He's written two psychology essays for me, and he's done a great job. I got A's on both of them. He's legit.
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