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Dec 16, 09, 07:22PM
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After reading many threads on this forum I conclude the essay writing and research industry is infested with international-based companies. How could it be? Students require model essays in ENGLISH and most of them still order from Ukrainian or Pakistani 'companies'? I have nothing against these nations, but it's getting ridiculous :)
How the genuine American/Canadian or British companies allowed that to happen? Where was the turning point when it all started, it's not like such companies popped up overnight, is it.
Why are the foreign websites better in some aspects (obviously they must be better at something since they have clients)? Maybe American companies lacked something that the international companies delivered? Or it's the customer who is uninformed?
Is there a way to turn it back so that students get a WELL-WRITTEN essay written by native English speakers?
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Dec 16, 09, 07:29PM
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Aver, while I agree with your sentiments generally, the poor quality of your own English leads me to question exactly what your angle is here.
All that the foreign companies have that American and British companies don't is more manpower, because it comes cheaper. The ability to have someone answering phones and chat 24 hours a day isn't as feasible with legitimate companies.
Also, these companies simply lie on their websites. But something tells me you already know this.
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I"m an ESL writer [actually programmer] myself and I don't compete with anyone here [I may compete if you're into offshore programming;], but this striked me today. There are few American companies that would compete in writing essays in French or Chinese after all :p
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Edited by: WritersBeware Dec 16, 09, 07:36PM
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aver: the customer who is uninformed
That is all. If customers were aware that they are being intentionally deceived by foreign fraudsters, they would never order. That is a cold, hard fact.
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Jan 15, 10, 07:50AM
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Aver,
Sadly, this is a recurring issue. However, like many are aware, this whole situation could be eliminated just by simply researching and possibly staying with one specific academic writer, not a company (useless it's a reliable and legit one). That is just my two cents though.
-Nichole
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Jan 15, 10, 11:22AM
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Well Aver to tell you the truth.. most of the orders that are placed on such sites are from non--English speaking students. I know a lot of Arabs and other students from other nationalities to order these services. Naturally they themselves are ESL students therefore it will become obvious for their teachers/professors if suddenly they start writing in perfect english. I have completed many orders where i was given specific instructions to take care of this fact because buyer was non-native.
Secondly, it is simple and pure myth created by WB and Company who attempted to make English as the life blood of this industry. Which is actually wrong. It is a proven fact that writers from India and Pakistan are more competent and at the same time less expensive. Naturally the companies offering such services hire such writers and pass on this benefit to their buyers and that is why customers prefer such services. UK based companies charge you thousands of pounds to get an essay for you but at the other hand non-UK and US companies charge lot less.
Lastly, this forum is a systematic effort by few (WB, PHEELYKS and every other crook) to attract customers to their sites so that they can robe them thousands of dollars.. English is secondary because if a native speaker does not know how to write on any Finance topic no matter how good english he writes you will fail because it is the knowledge of subject and your ability to provide cogent arguments and reasons that make a perfect piece of writing and not just the English..
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Researcher: Lastly, this forum is a systematic effort by few (WB, PHEELYKS and every other crook) to attract customers to their sites so that they can robe them thousands of dollars.. English is secondary because if a native speaker does not know how to write on any Finance topic no matter how good english he writes you will fail because it is the knowledge of subject and your ability to provide cogent arguments and reasons that make a perfect piece of writing and not just the English..
This forum is operated by the criminal gang of Essay Town. These criminals employ both third class US students and meritorious ESL writers.
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Jan 15, 10, 12:53PM
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Researcher: It is a proven fact that writers from India and Pakistan are more competent and at the same time less expensive
Where is this fact proven, exactly?
I would imagine that people in India and Pakistan whose English is better than that of native speakers could find themselves much more lucrative careers as translators/interpreters or simply in the business world as useful company assets. As someone living in the US (and born here), this industry provides more money and flexibility than most jobs someone could get while earning a degree--that's why I'm here.
Researcher: Lastly, this forum is a systematic effort by few (WB, PHEELYKS and every other crook) to attract customers to their sites so that they can robe them thousands of dollars.
While I constantly admit to working for a specific company, I also constantly refrain from recommending this company precisely because it is against the rules. In fact, if you and your gang of scamming morons didn't mention the company by name all the time, I wouldn't mention it at all--I only do so when defending the company or myself, never in a promotional manner.
Researcher: English is secondary
This argument has been put forth many times before and is still just as stupid as ever. Of course, one has to ave knowledge in the subject area, but you could be the most brilliant economist in the world and still be unable to express yourself in English. When customers need an paper in English, they are going to want someone who knows how to write well in English.
Customers are welcome to post here and disagree with me, if they do.
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pheelyks: still be unable to express yourself in English
No meritorious economist is unable to express himself in English like you idiot. Rather his communication level may not be good but compromising, idiot PHP Phyleeks.
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Jan 15, 10, 07:47PM
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Fracturegang: No meritorious economist is unable to express himself in English like you idiot. Rather his communication level may not be good but compromising, idiot PHP Phyleeks.
A thesaurus cannot correct your grammar and syntax issues, Fracturegang, and in the end it only makes you sound even stupider. Your use of meritorious for "good" or "excellent" is forced and awkward, and your use of "compromising" is unclear at best.
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pheelyks: Where is this fact proven, exactly?
Who says native english speaking writers are better than ESL writers? got proofs?
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pheelyks: I would imagine that people in India and Pakistan whose English is better than that of native speakers could find themselves much more lucrative careers as translators/interpreters or simply in the business world as useful company assets. As someone living in the US (and born here), this industry provides more money and flexibility than most jobs someone could get while earning a degree--that's why I'm here.
World is not idiot like you!! they know the value of your knowledge and technical skills not your English Speaking Skills...... China is the fastest growing country in the world with some of the excellent business minds but their English speaking skills are as good as your ability to speak Mandarin.... Aren't they working in more lucrative businesses despite having poor English writing and speaking skills? It is just a myth and self created argument by you and your company to give a wrong impression. You are actually forcing customers to look for more expensive alternatives just for your own benefits...
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jan 15, 10, 11:07PM
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Yes. Thanks for providing it.
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Researcher: China is the fastest growing country in the world with some of the excellent business minds but their English speaking skills are as good as your ability to speak Mandarin.... Aren't they working in more lucrative businesses despite having poor English writing and speaking skills?
That has absolutely no correlation to the ESSAY industry. Are you intentionally trying to be stupid or does it just come naturally to you? Stop comparing apples to oranges, dipsh*t.
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Jan 15, 10, 11:19PM
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WritersBeware: That has absolutely no correlation to the ESSAY industry. Are you intentionally trying to be stupid or does it just come naturally to you? Stop comparing apples to oranges, dipsh*t.
Guys listen please..... only WB is genius... all others are stupids..... I just have one request for all of you..... pray together that ESL fear get out of WB's mind otherwise we will soon find her in some mental rehabilitation facility..
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WritersBeware: That has absolutely no correlation to the ESSAY industry
I always knew that you are probably the dumbest creature on the face of earth... China is the largest exporter to US and if we apply your argument...... Chinese and Americans would have been communicating in sign language because written and spoken English only applies in Essay Industry..............
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WritersBeware: Yes. Thanks for providing it.
Your arguments is probably verifiable evidence? right you dumb As*
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Researcher: Your arguments is probably verifiable evidence? right you dumb As*
I know i made a typo error here
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Researcher: Researcher: Your arguments is probably verifiable evidence? right you dumb As* I know i made a typo error here
It's not just a typo, and it's not just here. Your English might be passable for you to conduct business in China, but it doesn't qualify you to write essays. You're a moron, and should probably go away now.
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pheelyks: It's not just a typo, and it's not just here. Your English might be passable for you to conduct business in China, but it doesn't qualify you to write essays. You're a moron, and should probably go away now.
You are backing off... same old tricky.... when you can't argue better run away.....
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Fraud from "Researcher"
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umbelievable..if it's alright I'll ask you a question..why is it so hard for you brit guys to understand people from all countries need to make money from business? After all there are so many non-Italian or partly Italian companies in Italy (that's were I'm from) so why is it a big issue if non-British companies make business in the UK (I have lived and worked in the UK for several years, oh, I love the UK). I hope it's not because people have a problem with foreigners since the UK prides itself in being so open-minded and multicultural!! There is an obvious pride problem which is really a non-issue in so far as a non-British reader and researcher somehow cannot be conceived of as writing essays fro British people..well...if those British students were really that good at what they're doing and can write so well why can't they write their essays themselves? This is partly why I tend not to accept work which looks too much like uni essays..but I do understand some people work and study and sometimes need a hand. Nevertheless I fail to recognize the obdurate and narrowminded idea that someone who wasn't born in the UK could somehow not be a good enough writer, reader, or teacher for that matter. I am all these things and proudly so, and I am Italian. Yours for professional accuracy, regards, Raffaella Cantillo
ps my only true flaw is I am an honest person, I'm not bothered by who might be reading my posts by the way:) oh, and typos aren't errors! I remember my old supervisor always making a difference there:)) bye for now!
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You're wither deliberately missing the point or you're slower than I thought. It has nothing to do with where you were born, but rather the level of proficiency you have when it comes to writing in English. You do not have the proficiency to write for people that want non-ESL work, plain and simple. by all means, make money in the UK, make money in the US, make money wherever you want. Be sure to tell your customers that they'll be purchasing work that is clearly ESL, and there's no problem.
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My name is a Borat. Can I sh*t your house?
raffaella: a good enough writer, reader, or teacher for that matter. I am all these things
As far as professional, paid writing in the English language is concerned, no, you're not. Sorry.
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raffaella: oh, and typos aren't errors! I remember my old supervisor always making a difference there:
Indeed, typos are not "errors" in the same way that knowledge-based mistakes or incorrect statements are "errors." A typo is nothing more than a physical and/or mental slip that the typer would immediately recognize and correct upon review, thereby rendering third-party intervention/tutoring unnecessary.
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well i have written several pieces of research and completed various translations and research tasks on top of my job as EFL teacher (secondary schools and im sure you know it's not an easy job). I do take your point re: ESL but the company i've been writing for knows of course i'm not a native speaker/writer - and they seem quite happy with that. So I honestly don't see how someone who doesn't know me at all could be saying i'm not good enough professionally. I am very interested in getting an inkling of your faster-than-life reasoning- seen as I am so slow, as you seem to notice, please enlighten me. I hope to find an explanation tomorrow, on my return from work. I am truly interested and, if you wish, professionally concerned. Very best regards, Raffaella Cantillo
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Raffaella, I do admire your restraint. I tip my cap. I can also tell that you are an honest person.
raffaella: So I honestly don't see how someone who doesn't know me at all could be saying i'm not good enough professionally.
Your posts are riddled with things that are not necessarily "errors," but stand out as "peculiar" and unnatural to native English speakers. The fact that you do not recognize these things supports my position and proves my point.
raffaella: the company i've been writing for knows of course i'm not a native speaker/writer - and they seem quite happy with that.
The issue has nothing to do with whether or not the company is "happy" with you. The issue has everything to do with whether or not the company lies about (and/or intentionally withholds) your skills to prospective customers.
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"The issue has nothing to do with whether or not the company is "happy" with you. The issue has everything to do with whether or not the company lies about (and/or intentionally withholds) your skills to prospective customers".
Hello, and thank you for making your point clearer. I still get the impression you are saying I couldn't be writing those briefs because I'm not a native speaker. To me that's discriminatory as - to memory - there is no part of the freelancer contract I signed which states you have to be a native speaker in order to complete an assignment. Now, perhaps there are people who don't know the difference between academic essay writing and colloquial English (although I would have problems about such claims since I am quite fluent in my spoken English too). However, what would interest me much more professionally are some examples of what you term 'non-errors' or slight cross language disturbances (which is what I, as a linguist, would call them). According to your previous post native speakers perceive a difference which - as you put it - are an immediate indication that whoever is writing is a non-native. If you allow me, the reason I'm querying that is that, at Reading University, where I conducted an MPhil Research higher degree course - I was taught that academic writing skills have no bearing at all with you native/non-native command of the English language. It's all to do with structuring your essay and argument - but it's nothing to do with where you're from. Thank you once again for your time, sincerely, Raffaella Cantillo
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pheelyks: I would imagine that people in India and Pakistan whose English is better than that of native speakers could find themselves much more lucrative careers as translators
translators where? they all speak English, dummy. it's part of their ex-colonial educational system. did you fail international history as well as grammar? no wonder you can only make it as a hack.
WritersBeware: Your posts are riddled with things that are not necessarily "errors,"
WB, racist windbag, is in over his head-- again-- and backpedaling appropriately.
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First, Buford, your need to quote a comment that is almost two years old just to start an argument is pathetic.
Second, not everyone in these countries speaks English, and certainly not fluently enough to make high-level discussions possible (or at least efficient). Translators are often used between individuals who each speak the same language at different levels of familiarity/proficiency to make things go faster and to ensure greater levels of mutual understanding (these translators would need to be fully fluent in both languages, of course).
Third, asking a question and then answering it yourself based on an assumption isn't the same thing as logical progression or evidence. It isn't surprising that the only way you can even try to make a point is by lying and insulting your opponents, but it is disappointing.
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pheelyks: Translators are often used between individuals who each speak the same language at different levels of familiarity/proficiency to make things go faster and to ensure greater levels of mutual understanding (these translators would need to be fully fluent in both languages, of course).
you're talking out of your ass.
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editor75: you're talking out of your ass.
Actually, I'm typing with my fingers. If you want examples of places that use translators despite almost everyone speaking English, how about the UN? Other government summits? Companies that translate technical manuals?
Anytime anyone knows more than you, your response is simply to try and discredit that knowledge without any rational argument or proof. Your accusing me of being a "hack" would be laughable if it wasn't so boring.
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Well, I do not want to care what Pheelyks and his psycho fans believe in. It seems they forgot the fact that some of the so called 'English-based writing companies' employ ESL-Writers. Besides, all the legit writing companies do not just wake up one morning and start picking writers randomly across the world, do they? They take the applicants through some serious screening test. I want to believe English test is mandatory. By passing the basic English test,you would have proven you can write.
I would agree with my friend Researcher on this: It's not all about English, but you must also be knowledgeable and experienced enough in a given subject to produce high quality paper. You must also be very knowledgeable regarding the academic writing styles and formats. Without any experience in the APA,MLA, ASA, Harvard, Chicago, Oxford etc. your perfect English will not count much in an academic writing industry. You will agree with me that not every EFL writer can solve all the problems in calculus or Physics. Think, Pheelys, think! To be honest, I am so disappointed in you.
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Heremeout: By passing the basic English test,you would have proven you can write.
The thing is, you and others that write at your level couldn't pass the tests (actually just a review of work samples) used by legitimate companies that only offer papers in fluent English, meaning only companies that explicitly offer ESL services or simply lie to their customers will hire you.
Once again, I have no problem with ESL writers/companies. My only problem is when they lie about what they can offer.
Heremeout: you must also be knowledgeable and experienced enough to write a high quality paper.
Well, duh.
Heremeout: Without any experience in the APA,MLA, ASA, Harvard, Chicago, Oxford
Anyone of average intelligence and ten minutes to spare can learn how to properly format in-text citations and a reference page for any of these styles. Capabilities in these areas are nothing to brag about.
Heremeout: You will agree with me that not every ESL writer can solve all the problems in calculus or Physics
Yes, I will agree with you on that. I fail to see what that has to do with anything, though.
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editor75: WritersBeware: Your posts are riddled with things that are not necessarily "errors," WB, racist windbag, is in over his head-- again-- and backpedaling appropriately.
1. What does race have to do with language?
2. How am I "in over my head and backpedaling," exactly?
3. Are you asserting that my statement is false?
As usual, I won't hold my breath waiting for you to provide legitimate, intelligent responses to any of my questions.
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WB:
#1 nothing-- and my presumption that you're racist has nothing to do with that question. you bait people by calling them "cave dwellars (sic)," and harbor cartoonish, disgusting stereotypes about Kenyans, Pakistanis, and Ukrainians. who knows why? maybe it's because many of those nationalities' representatives here own companies that are competing with yours. I also presume that since you've been to zero of these countries, and aren't friends with any of their citizens personally, this makes them particularly attractive targets for your out-group stereotyping. let me know if I'm wrong.
#2 Rafaella, whom you first pigeonholed as a target for your anti-ESL taunts, turned out to be a much more cogent and thoughtful writer than you assumed. the ensuing pwnage resulted in a significant downscale of your assertions about Raf's language usage. I've seen you backpedal so many times that I believe I'm particularly attuned to it. your "attack dog" persona, being based on skewed assumptions (see #1), is often pwned, and whimpers. if you prefer, I can call it "whimpering" instead of "backpedaling."
#3 I could care less. s/he's more articulate than you are, but Raf is also not setting him/herself up as an arbiter of English language usage here, and instead, seems to be following the normal rules of message board/email grammar, which are quite last and foose. you and pheelyks have built yourself glass houses; Raf has not.
WritersBeware: As usual, I won't hold my breath
such a shame!
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editor75: I could care less.
More ignorance, stupidity, and cluelessness . . . .
I'll tear apart your responses in depth when I return from collecting rent checks from tenants at one of my rental properties. Don't worry—I'll be back soon to skewer you once again.
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thanks for the fascinating excuse-- er-- reply.
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editor75: thanks for the fascinating excuse-- er-- reply.
Apparently, you have a hard time understanding simple English.
WritersBeware: I'll tear apart your responses in depth when I return . . . .
editor75: #1 nothing-- and my presumption that you're racist has nothing to do with that question. you bait people by calling them "cave dwellars (sic)," and harbor cartoonish, disgusting stereotypes about Kenyans, Pakistanis, and Ukrainians. who knows why? maybe it's because many of those nationalities' representatives here own companies that are competing with yours. I also presume that since you've been to zero of these countries, and aren't friends with any of their citizens personally, this makes them particularly attractive targets for your out-group stereotyping. let me know if I'm wrong.
Tell me—what are my "stereotypes" about these groups of people? Do you really want to rehash the "cave dweller" thing, as*hole? As I previously stated, referring to someone as a "cave dweller" carries the same meaning and level of insult as referring to someone as a "cave man" (i.e., a stupid, ignorant, uneducated, etc. person). Race has nothing to do with it, moron.
By the way, I'm not the one who is engaging in "racist" attacks against Meo, an honest, ESL writer. In fact, I've been steadfastly defending Meo against both you and EW_liar. As far as I've been able to ascertain, Meo is Pakistani. Who's the "racist"—Meo's relentless attackers or Meo's defender?
editor75: #2 Rafaella, whom you first pigeonholed as a target for your anti-ESL taunts, turned out to be a much more cogent and thoughtful writer than you assumed. the ensuing pwnage resulted in a significant downscale of your assertions about Raf's language usage. I've seen you backpedal so many times that I believe I'm particularly attuned to it. your "attack dog" persona, being based on skewed assumptions (see #1), is often pwned, and whimpers. if you prefer, I can call it "whimpering" instead of "backpedaling."
Can you quote one of my "taunts," RustyWriter, or are you going to continue to pull complete lies out of your filthy as*? Yeah, I didn't think so.
Rafaella refrained from attacking me, personally, so I acknowledged her restraint and returned the favor. For you to glean any other meaning or intent is desperate and asinine. FYI, Buford (I like pheelyks' name for you), Rafaella already stated that she agrees with my main points, so you're flagrantly exposing your ignorance/cluelessness once again.
editor75: #3 I could care less. s/he's more articulate than you are, but Raf is also not setting him/herself up as an arbiter of English language usage here, and instead, seems to be following the normal rules of message board/email grammar, which are quite last and foose. you and pheelyks have built yourself glass houses; Raf has not.
LMAO! I'm not going to insult Rafaella as part of refuting your stupid statement. I'm sorry to spoil your plan. I won't be set up, moron. I know that you see Rafaella as a potential ally against me, but I think that she is more than intelligent enough to see through your hollow propaganda.
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WritersBeware: Meo's defender
you're Meo's defender? lol-- truly.
WritersBeware: referring to someone as a "cave dweller" carries the same meaning and level of insult as referring to someone as a "cave man"
again, lol. really, who needs standup on Youtube? thanks for saving me some bandwidth, WB.
WritersBeware: Can you quote one of my "taunts,"
WritersBeware: My name is a Borat. Can I sh*t your house?
it's like tee-ball. give me something difficult.
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