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Edited by: stu4 Oct 17, 10, 07:50PM
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Here is the deal. The 'American' company owners and supporters on this forum (especially the trio: WritersBeware, pheelyks, FreelunchWriter) don't want the essay writing business to be 'infested' with foreign company owners (ie. their direct competition). Fair enough.
But why - at the same time - they steal the foreign clients by advertising they are happy to work with clients all around the world? Hey, they even use automatic translators to translate their site in dozens of different languages. Does the money of the 'uneducated ESL foreigners' don't smell bad to them? If they throw dirt and dirty names at their foreign competition, how else they think about equally 'foreign' clients? They take their money and call them names behind their backs.
Want the 'foreign' companies to move from 'your background' - get the $#$#$# from the foreign customers first.
PS> Before the three stooges start to brag about how more educated and eloquent the native English writers are, mind that most 'foreign companies' use exactly the same native speakers you use. And those who are not native English speakers understand the foreign culture, cultural connotation, and ESL language usage of the client more than your native speaker do. So foreign clients are much better off to go with a good ESL writer than a native writer who knows all the facts about the world from visiting the Disney world.
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Oct 17, 10, 08:27PM
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stu4: a native writer who knows all the facts about the world from visiting the Disney world.
you should visit, too!
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 17, 10, 08:39PM
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stu4: The 'American' company owners and supporters on this forum (especially the trio: WritersBeware, pheelyks, FreelunchWriter) don't want the essay writing business to be 'infested' with foreign company owners
None of us ever claimed this. Foreign companies are more than welcome in this industry. What I (I refuse to speak for anyone else) object to is the fact that many foreign companies LIE and pretend to be US/UK companies hiring US/UK writers, misrepresenting themselves to their customers. This is the only problem I have with these competitors. There's some site run openly by Indians living in India and hiring Indian writers--customers know what they are getting, and that's just fine (I can't remember the company's name, but I remember seeing it a few months ago--there's a thread about it on the forum somewhere).
stu4: they steal the foreign clients by advertising they are happy to work with clients all around the world
This isn't stealing, this is fair competition--"fair" because the customers know what they are getting.
stu4: They take their money and call them names behind their backs.
When have I called a foreign customer names? I can't recall WB or FW doing so, either, but I KNOW that I haven't.
stu4: Want the 'foreign' companies to move from 'your background' - get the $#$#$# from the foreign customers first.
I really have no idea what you're trying to say here. Go get less stupid, then come back and try again.
stu4: most 'foreign companies' use exactly the same native speakers you use
Ummmm.....no? Foreign companies tend to pay their writers less than half of what US/UK companies pay (having worked for a foreign competitor for a very short period, I know this for a fact--at least when it comes to certain companies). Why would I (or any other native writer employed by a US/UK company) work at two different places when one of them offers half the pay (plus a lot of ridiculous fines, automatic rewrite deadlines, etc)?
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Edited by: WritersBeware Oct 17, 10, 09:45PM
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stu4: most 'foreign companies' use exactly the same native speakers you use
That's a load of BS, Yuri. Based purely on your average payout per page, you can't afford their writers.
What kind of pathetic loser quotes his own post in which he originally fabricated a conversation?
stu4: WritersBeware, pheelyks, FreelunchWriter) don't want the essay writing business to be 'infested' with foreign company owners stu4: they steal the foreign clients stu4: And those who are not native English speakers understand the foreign culture, cultural connotation, and ESL language usage of the client more than your native speaker do. stu4: So foreign clients are much better off to go with a good ESL writer than a native writer who knows all the facts about the world from visiting the Disney world.
You wonder why I refer to you as a "filthy liar"?
pheelyks: What I (I refuse to speak for anyone else) object to is the fact that many foreign companies LIE and pretend to be US/UK companies hiring US/UK writers, misrepresenting themselves to their customers. This is the only problem I have with these competitors. There's some site run openly by Indians living in India and hiring Indian writers--customers know what they are getting, and that's just fine
Exactly!
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| stu4 |
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Edited by: stu4 Oct 17, 10, 09:53PM
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WritersBeware: average payout per page
On average, your IQ may be high but when you reply to some posts it's below the idiocy scale. Same with pay - average says nothing. Some writers get 300% of the average and still the overall average will still be average. The more writers, the less influence on the overall average despite the spikes.
You also hire ESL writers but hide this little fact from the public (unless the public is a potential writer reading a dedicated page).
WritersBeware: What kind of pathetic loser quotes his own post in which he originally fabricated a conversation?
Do you want to CHALLENGE ME!!? Where is your PROOF!??
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Edited by: WritersBeware Oct 17, 10, 09:56PM
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stu4: On average, your IQ may be high but when you reply to some posts it's below the idiocy scale. Same with pay - average says nothing. Some writers get 300% of the average and still the overall average will still be average. The more writers, the less influence on the overall average despite the spikes.
You are a perfect example of an UNQUALIFIED, ESL writer. You compound and perpetuate your company's scam by thinking that you are qualified to judge the writing skills of other, ESL writers. That's how you screw customers, Yuri.
stu4: You also hire ESL writers but hide this little fact from the public (unless the public is a potential writer reading a dedicated page).
Who is "you," exactly?
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| stu4 |
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Edited by: stu4 Oct 17, 10, 10:07PM
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WritersBeware: You are a perfect example of an UNQUALIFIED, ESL writer. You compound and perpetuate the problem by thinking that you are qualified to judge the writing skills of other, ESL writers.
It's not all about writing. It's about research and ideas mostly (UNLESS you admit your clients submit essays as their own).
What is the value of a grammar error free essay when the ideas make little sense, bring nothing new, and are framed by the narrow-mind of the writer who is fed by the propaganda media? Many "unqualified, ESL writers" have more fresh and adequate ideas and much better analytical skills than the Disneyland types. Just compare who is on boards of the biggest US companies or company founders - Chinese, Russian, British, Indian, Arab, European names, not American ones. ESL-types rule your country. And smart students follow the leaders, not the followers or losers.
WritersBeware: Who is "you," exactly?
You, Jason, the owner of an "American" essay writing company.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Oct 17, 10, 10:09PM
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stu4: WritersBeware: Who is "you," exactly? You, Jason, the owner of an "American" essay writing company.
LMAO!, Yuri! Where's your proof? Do you have ANY at all? Seriously—any? Don't tell me that you are basing your ignorant-ass accusation on that map "evidence" that you discovered long ago. F'ing moron.
stu4: Just compare who is on boards of the biggest US companies or company founders - Chinese, Russian, British, Indian, Arab, European names, not American ones.
Do you really want to go there, moron? OK, fine. Name the CEO, President, and Vice President of every "Fortune 500" company in the US.
You should lose your posting privileges for that display of ignorance. Is this another one of your examples of ESL writers having "more fresh and adequate ideas and much better analytical skills" than native writers? Do all of your ESL writers think that native Brits are ESL speakers?
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