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Apr 17, 09, 11:50AM
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is this legit WB?
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Apr 17, 09, 05:24PM
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Howtowriteadissertation.co.uk is just of another one of Barclay's ("Academic Answers") overpriced sites. Same product; different packaging. Plus, constant pop-ups prove that its main purpose is to be a front for EB.
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Apr 17, 09, 08:33PM
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and what's wrong with that? ^_^
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Edited by: EW_writer Apr 17, 09, 08:34PM
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You can't call Academic Answers a scam so instead you call them overpriced? >.< You're really some piece of work.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Apr 17, 09, 09:05PM
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EW_writer: You can't call Academic Answers a scam so instead you call them overpriced? >.< You're really some piece of work.
Well, I'm not surprised that the fight-starter is trying to stir it up yet again. BOOOOOOORING. Sorry, I won't bite. Go fight with yourself. By the way, thank you for proving that I get personally attacked/insulted/instigated first, for absolutely no reason. (Could it be because you shamelessly advertise all the time that you work for EB?)
Just for the record, I had no problem calling a spade a spade when "Jennifer" from Academic Answers came to this forum to promote and Exwriter (if I recall correctly) proved that she is a liar and borderline fraud by claiming in numerous, public venues to be a lawyer (barrister). So, I will ask you kindly to keep your LIES and false accusations to yourself.
Now, as to the topic at hand, numerous people in this forum have pointed out that Academic Answers' sites tend to be extremely expensive (i.e., "overpriced") in comparison to other companies. If you want to call those people liars, EW_writer, I suggest that you post evidence to justify it.
I also ask, in general, that you stop harassing me.
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Apr 17, 09, 10:46PM
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WritersBeware: I also ask, in general, that you stop harassing me.
and lose a perfectly good hobby? nah... :P
WritersBeware: So, I will ask you kindly to keep your LIES and false accusations to yourself.
EW_writer: You can't call Academic Answers a scam so instead you call them overpriced? >.< You're really some piece of work.
Where's the lie in that? Essaybay probably charges some of the most reasonable rates in the industry.
WritersBeware: Sorry, I won't bite.
WritersBeware: Just for the record, I had no problem calling a spade a spade when "Jennifer" from Academic Answers came to this forum to promote and Exwriter (if I recall correctly) proved that she is a liar and borderline fraud by claiming in numerous, public venues to be a lawyer (barrister). So, I will ask you kindly to keep your LIES and false accusations to yourself. Now, as to the topic at hand, numerous people in this forum have pointed out that Academic Answers' sites tend to be extremely expensive (i.e., "overpriced") in comparison to other companies. If you want to call those people liars, EW_writer, I suggest that you post evidence to justify it.
Riiiightttt....
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Apr 18, 09, 12:11AM
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EW_writer: and lose a perfectly good hobby? nah... :P
Where are the Rule #5 proponents? Rule #5 only applies to me, I suppose?
EW_writer: Where's the lie in that?
The LIE is that you claimed I brought up "overpriced" simply because I could not show that your buddy-buddy employer is a "scam." First of all, I never stated that your buddy-buddy employer is a "scam," and I wasn't even remotely trying to prove such. If that were my goal, you can bet that I would have come with a lot stronger, much more detailed evidence. Secondly, since you issued yet another lie and false accusation about me, I proved you to be a LIAR by referencing how Exwriter PROVED that "Jennifer," Academic Answer's PR person, has lied about being an attorney (barrister). Exwriter, please confirm.
EW_writer: ********** probably charges some of the most reasonable rates in the industry.
Once again, EW_writer intentionally breaks forum rules by advertising his employer for personal gain, despite the fact that neither the OP nor I had previously mentioned the site by name (in respect for—and compliance with—forum rules). Where's the outcry? Is Lavinia going to equitably chastise him as she did to FreelanceWriter? EW_writer has been doing this constantly since joining this forum in 2007.
EW_writer: Riiiightttt....
Right—that's all you can type because you know it's true. I think that everyone would appreciate it if you would refrain from making inflammatory accusations, without proof, just to start an argument.
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Apr 18, 09, 12:48AM
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WritersBeware: The LIE is that you claimed I brought up "overpriced" simply because I could not show that your buddy-buddy employer is a "scam." First of all, I never stated that your buddy-buddy employer is a "scam," and I wasn't even remotely trying to prove such. If that were my goal, you can bet that I would have come with a lot stronger, much more detailed evidence. Secondly, since you issued yet another lie and false accusation about me, I proved you to be a LIAR by referencing how Exwriter PROVED that "Jennifer," Academic Answer's PR person, has lied about being an attorney (barrister). Exwriter, please confirm
I can indeed confirm that I outed Jennifer for her consistent lies. It seems to be a consistent theme with Academic Answers given that Barclay himself CLAIMS to be a barrister, but in fact got no further than law school. I suppose they reckon that hyping up their qualifications gives them some form of kudos, makes you wonder whether they HYPE up the qualification of their writers too in order to convince customers that the quality of the work will be better then their rivals.
Having recently visited essaybay (under a pseudonym) I noted that orders that are on offer rarely specify the full question or word limit, meaning that the writer has to contact the customer before they can bid on them. quite surprisingly, a number of writers still bid without knowing this information. How can they do this and be sure that they will be able to do the work justice? When a query is posted to the customer they rarely reply, so are they seriously expecting someone to bid on their work not knowing the full details or the length of the piece. I also noted that there are a huge amount of orders that are on then from before christmas, which seems to suggest that there is a problem with the system.
I wonder whether the customer is discouraged from giving the full details of the assignment until they have selected a writer who has bid on this without knowing these details, so that writers can be conned into writing 5000 words for less than you would pay for your weekly shopping! Some on there bid ridiculously low amounts of $58, which is not too bad if the word limit is 1000 words but pretty rubbish if the limit is 3000 words don't you think?
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Apr 18, 09, 07:17AM
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exwriter: I wonder whether the customer is discouraged from giving the full details of the assignment until they have selected a writer who has bid on this without knowing these details, so that writers can be conned into writing 5000 words for less than you would pay for your weekly shopping! Some on there bid ridiculously low amounts of $58, which is not too bad if the word limit is 1000 words but pretty rubbish if the limit is 3000 words don't you think?
The good thing with the system is that you can both bail out without difficulty if things like the situations that you mentioned happen. Also, when clients don't explain instructions well enough as to make the writer underbid considerably, the writer can ask for additional payment (which I have done several times).
exwriter: Having recently visited essaybay (under a pseudonym) I noted that orders that are on offer rarely specify the full question or word limit, meaning that the writer has to contact the customer before they can bid on them.
You mean some orders, don't you? If you're presenting an unbiased observation then I'm sure that you also saw a lot of orders which were very specifically defined.
exwriter: quite surprisingly, a number of writers still bid without knowing this information. How can they do this and be sure that they will be able to do the work justice? When a query is posted to the customer they rarely reply, so are they seriously expecting someone to bid on their work not knowing the full details or the length of the piece.
I agree. There are some unreasonable clients and some clueless writers on the site. However, having to sort bad clients from good ones on the part of writers and having to sort bad writers from good ones on the part of clients is precisely the most wonderful thing about the site. It gives people freedom to interact directly in an open marketplace. Writers are free to prove themselves to clients.
exwriter: I can indeed confirm that I outed Jennifer for her consistent lies. It seems to be a consistent theme with Academic Answers given that Barclay himself CLAIMS to be a barrister, but in fact got no further than law school. I suppose they reckon that hyping up their qualifications gives them some form of kudos, makes you wonder whether they HYPE up the qualification of their writers too in order to convince customers that the quality of the work will be better then their rivals.
While I don't know anything about the site's owners, I do know that there are a slew of unverified writers on the site whose credentials are probably untrue. However, regardless of what you say your credentials are, the bottom line will always be how good your feedback is, and even if we take the feedback away, there's how well you interact with clients and convince them that you can write their orders well. When I was starting out, I used to even give free outlines just to prove that I can get the job done perfectly.
My only point is that WB claims that Academic Answers' products are overpriced where in fact, EB's rates are some of the lowest available in the industry. That's all.
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Apr 18, 09, 07:30AM
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EW_writer: You mean some orders, don't you? If you're presenting an unbiased observation then I'm sure that you also saw a lot of orders which were very specifically defined.
more than 80% of the law and criminology ones
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Apr 18, 09, 07:35AM
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EW_writer: My only point is that WB claims that Academic Answers' products are overpriced where in fact, EB's rates are some of the lowest available in the industry.
They are overpriced compared to some sites, maybe not so much the EB as the writer sets the price themselves, but cetainly with their sister companies such as ukessays etc. AA comes in many different disguises nowadays, you only have to try applying for writing jobs for different companies to see how many are affiliated with AA, and they all charge different prices but employ the same writers.
I wouldnt be surprised if the essays offered for bid on EB are not challenged from UKessays where a suitable writer could not be found, especially judging by the glut of law essays being offered
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Apr 18, 09, 07:53AM
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exwriter: more than 80% of the law and criminology ones
Ok, I'll take your word for it as I hardly ever bother with projects in those areas.
exwriter: They are overpriced compared to some sites, maybe not so much the EB as the writer sets the price themselves, but cetainly with their sister companies such as ukessays etc. AA
Ok. I don't really care about AA's sister websites but I do wonder, if you're saying that they are overpriced then that must mean that they get less of the market share. It's simple economics unless they provide a better service (which I'm not saying they do).
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Apr 18, 09, 10:02AM
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EW_writer: Ok. I don't really care about AA's sister websites but I do wonder, if you're saying that they are overpriced then that must mean that they get less of the market share. It's simple economics unless they provide a better service (which I'm not saying they do).
Not necessarily. They might get more of the market share because students prefer a native writer, and feel that some of the cheaper companies are employing ESL writers, hence the reason why they charge less. Some people naively believe that the more you pay the better service you will get. This is not true in any area of purchasing of goods or services. In fact, some of the cheaper goods or services can often be better than the dearer ones.
As an example, a friend of mine recently went on a holiday abroad for which she paid £400. The same holiday was offered on a late booking for £170 which a friend of hers bought. They both had exactly the same accomodation in the same hotel, but one paid half the price of the other because she took a late booking. This just goes to show that paying less does not mean getting less in terms of value for money.
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Apr 18, 09, 02:54PM
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I think this thread proves that EW_writer makes false claims against me and tries to defame my character simply because he can't stand it when I type the TRUTH about his employers (as if it's my fault that they choose to engage in shady tactics).
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Edited by: WritersBeware Apr 18, 09, 03:01PM
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EW_writer: My only point is that WB claims that Academic Answers' products are overpriced where in fact, EB's rates are some of the lowest available in the industry. That's all.
Now he's intentionally skewing my argument and the context. This thread is in reference to howtowriteadissertation.co.uk. The thread is NOT about EB. My comment about "overpriced" was in reference to howtowriteadissertation.co.uk and basically all of Academic Answers' sites besides EB.
We all know why/how EB is cheaper than Academic Answers' sister sites. It is a well-known fact, as EW_writer admits, that EB makes it possible for woefully unqualified "writers" to lie to prospective customers about their native language, geographical location, cultural background, experience, etc. One of the main reasons WHY the prices at EB are a bit lower is because of the large number of foreign, ESL writers who are willing to work for shockingly low rates and undercut all of the legit, native, American/British writers who are TRULY qualified but require REAL, WORTHY payment.
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Apr 18, 09, 06:29PM
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exwriter: Not necessarily. They might get more of the market share because students prefer a native writer, and feel that some of the cheaper companies are employing ESL writers, hence the reason why they charge less. Some people naively believe that the more you pay the better service you will get. This is not true in any area of purchasing of goods or services. In fact, some of the cheaper goods or services can often be better than the dearer ones.
I agree. Still, if that's their marketing strategy then the most reasonable thing for other companies to do is raise prices as well or create websites that match AA's prices, don't you think?
WritersBeware: I think this thread proves that EW_writer makes false claims against me and tries to defame my character simply because he can't stand it when I type the TRUTH about his employers
What employers? I'm completely freelance now. :p
WritersBeware: We all know why/how EB is cheaper than Academic Answers' sister sites. It is a well-known fact, as EW_writer admits, that EB makes it possible for woefully unqualified "writers" to lie to prospective customers about their native language, geographical location, cultural background, experience, etc. One of the main reasons WHY the prices at EB are a bit lower is because of the large number of foreign, ESL writers who are willing to work for shockingly low rates and undercut all of the legit, native, American/British writers who are TRULY qualified but require REAL, WORTHY payment.
That's a load of bull. In EB, clients get to choose which writer they want and I always tell them to communicate with the writer they wish to choose first before selecting them so that they can at least be certain that they would be comfortable with the writer's writing style and level of competence in the English language. You don't get projects on the site by bidding very low or by bidding very high (which is why I agree with exwriter). Instead, you get projects by communicating with the client and showing them how well you can be expected to accomplish the project for them through this communication. Of course, not a lot of writers are able to do this as consistently as others. :D
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Apr 18, 09, 06:39PM
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i only wanted to know if the site was a scam.. it's like an online WWF match breaking out in here!
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Apr 18, 09, 06:43PM
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akuma: it's like an online WWF match breaking out in here!
Woohoooo!
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Apr 18, 09, 07:18PM
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akuma: i only wanted to know if the site was a scam.. it's like an online WWF match breaking out in here!
You asked for my help, which I was happy to provide to the best of ability/knowledge. The senseless fighting is what tends to happen almost every time I post information. Why? Certain people don't like the information and proceed to attack me. This happens over and over and over again. Then, when I retaliate or try to defend myself, I'm the bad guy. I'm sorry that this keeps happening.
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Apr 18, 09, 11:05PM
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WritersBeware: I'm the bad guy.
Freudian slip? ;p
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Jun 4, 10, 03:01AM
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What a bunch of baloney...like you're some innocent and poor thing. You criticize everytime a newbie posts a question or statement. Your "help" is nothing but attacks. Get a life, there is no way you can possibly be a so called "writer". It appears you spend all day here with your other alias posting nasty replies for years on end. What the hell are you doing? Move on, get a blog or something. Spew hatred for ESL writers and bash peoples grammar until the cows come home. I don't buy your supposed experience, education or other insider info you have. Nobody else here on this forum should be subjected to your crazy rantings and accusations. And btw, I am college educated and born in the U.S.A. So go at it and attack me too.
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