| just writers |
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Jan 20, 09, 09:48AM
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Hi Students
To terminate essay cheating by essay 'companies', we have decided to form a group composed of ex-writers to offer students excellent and affordable writing services. Please if you need a high quality paper, contact us on toms9091@yahoo.com(If our quality is poor, we refund your money).
kind regards
Just writers
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| alice |
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Jan 20, 09, 10:29AM
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So, to terminate cheating by essay companies you are going to form your own company - very clever, I bet no one else thought of it before you :)
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| serene |
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Jan 20, 09, 11:11AM
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just writers: we refund your money
Funny.
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| WritersBeware |
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Jan 20, 09, 12:54PM
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just writers: Hi Students To terminate essay cheating by essay 'companies', we have decided to form a group composed of ex-writers to offer students excellent and affordable writing services. Please if you need a high quality paper, contact us on toms9091@yahoo.com(If our quality is poor, we refund your money). kind regards Just writers
Wow, I'm sure that everyone is absolutely jumping at the chance to avail of your woefully unqualified, ESL writing "service." What a JOKE.
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| pheelyks |
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Jan 20, 09, 01:03PM
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"kind regards." hmmm, where do I hear that all the time?
Oh yeah, it's how EVERY SINGLE ADMIN at UVO signs off. Those aren't ex-writers at all; they're greedy Ukrainian administrators. Weird...
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| akuma |
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Jan 20, 09, 03:01PM
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this must trymedave's 11th account on this site
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| trymedave |
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Jan 21, 09, 07:24AM
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akuma: this must trymedave's 11th account on this site
I didn't know we had a brigade of lunatics on this website.....WB was surely one, Akuma has become the latest to join that league......
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| stu4 |
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Jan 21, 09, 10:01AM
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I only contact companies with @msn.com email account because they are the most serious.
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| alice |
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Jan 21, 09, 12:07PM
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stu4: I only contact companies with @msn.com email account because they are the most serious.
Why? Is this because these accounts are free? Or because you believe they are connected to Microsoft?
:))))))))))))))))))
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| stu4 |
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Jan 21, 09, 12:26PM
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Nah, I was being ironic.
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| WritersBeware |
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Jan 21, 09, 01:27PM
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stu4: I only contact companies with @msn.com email account because they are the most serious.
What about "google.com"? Doesn't that make MoronDave all the more attractive?
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| impy2101 |
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Jan 21, 09, 02:40PM
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You know...that is something I don't get (and of course I don't trust...) that the admins of a site use a free email account from gmail or yahoo. Most hosting service sites will give you at least 1 free email address to use, if not 10. Why not look more business-like and official by using the domain name, i.e. customersupport@justwriters.com?
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| WritersBeware |
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Jan 21, 09, 05:15PM
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impy2101: Why not look more business-like and official by using the domain name, i.e. customersupport@justwriters.com?
They are all fly-by-night charlatans, that's why.
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| monsta2005 |
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Jan 22, 09, 02:54PM
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seeing just writers promoted himself on this site can i put my email down as well lol! And im a genuinely honest writer
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| carol_taki |
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Sep 2, 10, 03:27PM
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what about offering to write first then make us pay? or at least a minimal sum as deposit first. because i don't think anyone would really be able to trust i you are legit i guess.
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| WritersBeware |
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Sep 2, 10, 03:34PM
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carol_taki: what about offering to write first then make us pay? or at least a minimal sum as deposit first.
Sorry, but that's just not how the freelance writing business works.
carol_taki: because i don't think anyone would really be able to trust i you are legit i guess.
That's why you should only choose an old, established company.
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| WRT |
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Sep 2, 10, 03:57PM
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carol_taki: what about offering to write first then make us pay?
Much too risky ... what if the customer takes the work and runs? As WB stressed = it's not how it works in this industry (or practically any other).
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Edited by: FreelanceWriter Sep 2, 10, 03:58PM
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carol_taki: what about offering to write first then make us pay? or at least a minimal sum as deposit first. because i don't think anyone would really be able to trust i you are legit i guess.
That's not workable for writers because if we don't get paid, we're out all that work with little recourse. Even if we're local, it's just not practical or worthwhile to worry about suing in small claims court for a $50 paper or for a few hundred bucks; if we're not local, it would be even less practical to have to travel to remote areas to pursue it. All that does is shift the risk entirely to the writer instead of the student. Someone has to take a risk, at least on the first transaction.
That's why I've always suggested that you limit your risk by placing only a small order with any new company or freelance writer, as a test of honesty and also writing talent. You could also just order an Introduction or an outline for a longer project and just prepay for those few pages before you decide to trust the writer with the entire project. That way, your only exposure is the price of a few pages. I've even had customers pay me for 10 or 20 pages at a time for a 100-pg project, which is fine. If a writer refuses that arrangement, that should be a red flag. You're much less likely to get ripped off by a writer who already provided good work once because most of the scammers don't plan to do any writing after they get your money or they just provide horrible work the first time. I don't think there are too many scammers who specialize in doing good sample work so they can rip you off on bigger projects.
On our end, writing before payment just isn't safe and we wouldn't be able to make a living if we had to take that risk on every project and worry about chasing down payments after the fact. Actually, the only 2 times I've ever been ripped of was by long-term clients who had each used me very regularly for several years. Both times, I'd let them pay me after the work sometimes because they were using me so regularly. They both just stiffed me on their very last assignment and one of them owed me for 2 or 3 papers. Since then, I never start work until payment is received, even for long-term clients, and there are no exceptions. I'd much rather not get the work if a client can't trust me than risk wasting my time working on a paper for nothing.
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| carol_taki |
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Sep 2, 10, 04:01PM
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so it is a full time payment before the writer starts to write?
But what about paying half the price first and then the other half after the assignment ends?
Sorry to be bombarding you guys with my questions.
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Sep 2, 10, 04:08PM
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carol_taki: so it is a full time payment before the writer starts to write? But what about paying half the price first and then the other half after the assignment ends? Sorry to be bombarding you guys with my questions.
No problem. If you mean prepay for a few pages at a time and then prepay for the next few pages after the first part is satisfactory, that's fine (at least with me). If you mean pay for only some of the work and then pay for the rest after receiving the entire project, that's no good (at least for me) because we have to take the same risk anytime we do any work without prepayment. If you decide to stiff us on the second part, there's nothing we can do about it and we're out all the time and effort we put into it. Also, we can't keep customers honest by posting about our experiences the way customers can.
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| carol_taki |
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Sep 2, 10, 04:13PM
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So it's possible to write the first few pages first (of course already paid) and then if it's satisfactory, I could continue to get the rest of the papers (of course also already paid by then) later?
How long does this take in your opinion then? By the way, I've sent you a PM, could you email me back regarding the message? Thanks alot! ^_^
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Sep 2, 10, 04:18PM
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carol_taki: So it's possible to write the first few pages first (of course already paid) and then if it's satisfactory, I could continue to get the rest of the papers (of course also already paid by then) later? |
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Sep 2, 10, 04:38PM
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hmm.. okay, so I presume that most writers have a standard format of double spacing and times new roman font sized 12?
There is not much difference is there?
Oh and regarding the thread starter's post, if a paper is poorly written, do you think those writers would actually do a full refund in any way???
It seems quite impossible to me that some would.. no offense to anyone though.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 2, 10, 04:44PM
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carol_taki: hmm.. okay, so I presume that most writers have a standard format of double spacing and times new roman font sized 12? There is not much difference is there?
One-inch margins are standard, at least for legit companies and writers.
Avoid any site or person who charges by-the-page and types in Courier (or "Courier New") font face. Courier eats up easily 10% more page space than either Times New Roman or Arial. So, for a "10-page" order in Courier New, you'll receive at least 300 fewer words than you would from a company or person who types the paper in Times New Roman.
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Edited by: FreelanceWriter Sep 2, 10, 05:04PM
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carol_taki: ...Oh and regarding the thread starter's post, if a paper is poorly written, do you think those writers would actually do a full refund in any way???...It seems quite impossible to me that some would.. no offense to anyone though.
Chances are whatever work you receive is representative of the writer's ability and style. If you get a poorly written paper, you probably want to find a different writer altogether. If you're dissatisfied in any way by any work you receive from any company or freelancer, about all you can do keep writers honest is complain about it publicly right on this forum. There are many things that are prohibited here, but that's one thing that I'm sure is allowed.
WritersBeware: Avoid any site or person who charges by-the-page and types in Courier (or "Courier New") font face. Courier eats up easily 10% more page space than either Times New Roman or Arial. So, for a "10-page" order in Courier New, you'll receive at least 300 fewer words than you would from a company or person who types the paper in Times New Roman.
Kicking myself for all the times that student have used Courier in their outlines and essay questions where I changed it all to TNR out of habit. The companies who use me all use 12-pt TNR, but you can always request any other font or style as long as you're willing to pay for any extra work that it requires, such as 10-pt font (same goes for requesting single-spacing, too).
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| imperfection23 |
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Sep 19, 10, 04:30PM
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FreelanceWriter: Also, we can't keep customers honest by posting about our experiences the way customers can.
That's true! Not to mention many times customers don't use their real names.
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| dnm |
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Sep 27, 10, 03:20PM
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WritersBeware: One-inch margins are standard, at least for legit companies and writers.
ABCwriting, i think out of business now, used to ask for .5" margins, TNR 10pt, single-spaced. i think they paid around $3 per page. took one look at their specs and ran. don't remember if they were .com or .net. anyone know where they at now?
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