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May 26, 10, 01:46PM
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Hi, has anyone ordered an essay from a guy named Andrew Kaiser?
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| WritersBeware |
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May 26, 10, 01:53PM
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Are you kidding? Why would you EVER order from some unaccountable, private party?
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May 26, 10, 01:56PM
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I did not order. I'm asking for someone who has been in contact with him. If you can't help don't reply. I know where to order or not, I just need someone to tell me if he's a scam or not to make sure. I have common sense.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 26, 10, 03:19PM
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pvita: If you can't help don't reply.
I did help by pointing out that is is asinine to order from an absolutely unaccountable entity. Do you have any idea how many people have been ripped off by doing so? I think that I have just a tad bit more knowledge on the subject than do you.
If you don't like realistic answers, don't ask questions.
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May 26, 10, 05:27PM
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pvita: has anyone ordered an essay from a guy named Andrew Kaiser?
Who is he? We have never heard of him.
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May 26, 10, 07:06PM
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than do you?---> wrong sentence construction here
then simply answer if you know him or not, and how do you gauge the fact that you are more knowledgeable? it's a different context from one case to another and I think I know enough not to do anything yet right?
don't be such an arse, I am asking because I have to do something, you don't know just why I'm asking so just answer it simply.
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May 26, 10, 07:08PM
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he's an essay company owner, I'm doing a background check on him. It seems that some people here know who are the owners of different writing companies.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 26, 10, 07:47PM
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pvita: than do you?---> wrong sentence construction here
LMAO! Any truly professional writer will tell you that you are dead wrong. Please don't embarrass yourself.
pvita: he's an essay company owner, I'm doing a background check on him. It seems that some people here know who are the owners of different writing companies.
If that's the case, why are you playing games? Name the site/company!
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May 27, 10, 06:42AM
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WB, you anti-social narcissist, leave the newbie alone. you don't know the answer to their question in the first place. ffs, simmer down.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 27, 10, 01:45PM
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rustyironchains: you don't know the answer to their question in the first place.
Would you like to put some money on that, Rusty? You "know" that I won't have the facts about the site/company if he/she names it, hah?
What you obviously do not know—or understand/recognize—is that fraudsters constantly change their fake names.
If this "newbie" claims to know the site/company with which "Andrew Kaiser" is associated, why beat around the bush? If one is asking for help, the least one can do is make helpers' task easier.
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Edited by: tukesmith May 27, 10, 04:10PM
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The company is Kaiwrite. I was writing for this Andrew Kaiser, and I'm in the same spot as pvita. He was so on the level about everything, I never got a "red flag" feeling, and he even gave me payment options. I haven't heard back from him in almost 2 days.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 27, 10, 04:54PM
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If you are referring to Kaiwrite.com, the owner made the registration information private on May 2, 2010 after having allowed the information to be public since December of 2007. Do you think that's a coincidence?
How/where did you come upon the name, "Andrew Kaiser"?
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May 27, 10, 04:58PM
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WritersBeware: Why would you EVER order from some unaccountable, private party?
Does that mean you advise against getting essays from kasamba.com and hiring an expert? Since it's going directly? Let me know
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May 27, 10, 05:00PM
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"Hi, I'm looking for a few good writers. My company provides academic papers to various types of people. We only have 3 job openings, so please only reply if you truly believe you can do the job. We are looking for the best, and I'm tired of weeding through to get to the best, so I'm just going to ask that only experienced writers apply. The job isnot easy, but it can be easy. It requires lots of research, and we are paying as much as our budget will allow. Right now we are offering writers $50 per page [HERE'S YOUR RED FLAG], for the papers, and bonuses for research and so forth will be added as needed. We would also like writers who are use to the crunch deadline, and who can deliver fast, sort of like a fast food restaurant. However, most assignments will have ample timeframe. Please don't ask for payment upfront, we do not do that! If the job isn't right to you, then move on. I need serious writers immediatly, so please reply with your resume, and a writing sample of any type. We are only looking for top quality, and paying top dollar."
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 27, 10, 05:02PM
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curious321: Does that mean you advise against getting essays from kasamba.com and hiring an expert?
Unless the private party has a LONG track record at kasamba—and, therefore, something to lose if you complain—you shouldn't even consider a private party. There are simply too many charlatans looking to make a quick score, change their names, and move on to the next "mark(s)." Established companies, on the other hand, have a vested interest in protecting and maintaining their reputation by making the customer happy.
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May 27, 10, 05:05PM
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Thanks :)
But don't you pay after you have recieved the essay? So if it is shoddy then you don't simply pay?
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 27, 10, 05:11PM
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curious321: But don't you pay after you have recieved the essay?
Yes, but the paper could still be 100% plagiarized. Plus, any seasoned fraudster will know how to mask the text so that even a 100% plagiarized paper won't be detected by Turnitin or any other plagiarism detector. (I know how to do it, but will never post that information publicly because it is both immoral and illegal.)
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May 27, 10, 05:17PM
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damn...
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May 27, 10, 05:24PM
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Is there anything I can do to report this or am I just screwed?
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May 27, 10, 05:42PM
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tukesmith: Is there anything I can do to report this or am I just screwed?
You should wait at least a week before taking that step.
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May 27, 10, 06:57PM
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it could have been anything. I worked for a place that had a very high, standard per page rate-- for a few months, before it went under. it is difficult for a company paying out that much to stay in business-- but it does happen.
WritersBeware: Plus, any seasoned fraudster will know how to mask the text so that even a 100% plagiarized paper won't be detected by Turnitin or any other plagiarism detector. ( I know how to do it |
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 27, 10, 07:33PM
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FU, Rusty, you worthless piece of sh*t. Thank you for proving that you just like to start trouble, regardless of how much I try to help people.
Yes, I know how to do it as a byproduct of my investigations in helping to identify and TAKE DOWN a huge plagiarism ring, moron. I bet you'd just love for me to tell you how to do it, RustyCrook. Sorry, but I won't tell you, no matter how nicely you ask.
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May 27, 10, 07:49PM
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lol the fighting here just gets too funny at times
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May 28, 10, 01:11AM
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tukesmith please inform me on what you will to solve this issue?
WB: i just wanted to get some help, i don't want to fight, I have no idea how I should report this or what to do. Please advise since as you said you are an expert in this area.
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May 28, 10, 01:16AM
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I need help on this issue because I badly needed the money but turns out I think it's a scam.
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Edited by: rustyironchains May 28, 10, 05:21AM
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WritersBeware: regardless of how much I try to help people.
the white knight!
WB this poster is looking for someone with real experience or contact info to help them-- you seem to think they are looking to be given a bunch of hot air by a rude boor.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 28, 10, 12:38PM
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rustyironchains: WB this poster is looking for someone with real experience or contact info to help them
Wrong. THIS is what the person really wants:
pvita: I just need someone to tell me if he's a scam or not to make sure.
rustyironchains: the white knight!
Stop being so jealous because you don't have ANY of the information that I post on a regular basis. Tell us—why, exactly, have you posted in this thread, other than to start trouble?
Did you claim that I would not be able to provide any information on Kaiser? Yep. (You were wrong, as usual.)
Did you post extremely valid and detailed warnings about giving money to unaccountable, private parties? Nope. I did.
Did you somehow locate and post Kaiser's ad? Nope. I did.
Did you highlight the red flag in Kaiser's ad? Nope. I did.
Do you have—and did you provide—any of my obscure information on plagiarism masking? Nope.
Shut up.
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Edited by: rustyironchains May 28, 10, 12:53PM
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WritersBeware: Did you somehow locate and post Kaiser's ad? Nope. I did. Did you highlight the red flag in Kaiser's ad? Nope. I did. Do you have—and did you provide—any of my obscure information on plagiarism masking? Nope. Shut up.
"somehow?" seriously?! you learned how to use google; do you want some sort of prize?
if you don't think I posted anything helpful (did you even read it?), that's fine. maybe it wasn't. but at least it was based on experience-- not some delusional, dimwitted hunch based on ad copy.
"somehow--" lol. oh... tell us your tricks, great wizard!
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 28, 10, 01:14PM
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rustyironchains: somehow?" seriously?! you learned how to use google; do you want some sort of prize?
Really, smartass? Tell me exactly how I located the ad. (You can't use any of the words in the articles itself, cheater).
Funny—you didn't comment on any of the other points:
WritersBeware: Did you post extremely valid and detailed warnings about giving money to unaccountable, private parties? Nope. I did.
WritersBeware: Did you highlight the red flag in Kaiser's ad? Nope. I did.
WritersBeware: Do you have—and did you provide—any of my obscure information on plagiarism masking? Nope.
One more:
"If you are referring to Kaiwrite.com, the owner made the registration information private on May 2, 2010 after having allowed the information to be public since December of 2007. Do you think that's a coincidence?"
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May 28, 10, 04:28PM
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WB: I would want your help. If you can please help me. Thank you
As for the fighting I hope it stops now, rustyironchains if you can just help out. I'm not getting anything from the continuous banter.
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Edited by: rustyironchains May 28, 10, 04:45PM
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there are people who post based on experience, and those who post based on red flags, flags which say, "I've never been paid this much... and that rules out everyone else, too." I'm still going to call BS on this, as loudly and whenever I please.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 28, 10, 04:52PM
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rustyironchains: "I've never been paid this much
LMAO! I could buy you 50 times over, pal. You know absolutely nothing about my professional background and payment rates.
rustyironchains: I'm still going to call BS on this
Step up to the plate and clearly state exactly what it is that is "BS." Coward.
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 28, 10, 04:53PM
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rustyironchains: there are people who post based on experience
Do you still want to claim that I am an "outsider" who doesn't post based on experience? Short memory, hah?
rustyironchains: OK, WB, you showed me . . . I will think twice before I call you an "industry outsider" again. |
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Edited by: WritersBeware May 28, 10, 04:55PM
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pvita: rustyironchains if you can just help out.
RustyWriter is a know-nothing blowhard who couldn't help you if he tried. He signed-up in this forum just to attack me, and he has done virtually only that ever since. Look at his posting history.
pvita: WB: I would want your help. If you can please help me. Thank you
What is it, exactly, that you want that I have not already provided? I already suggested that you wait at least a week before taking action. If you haven't resolved the problem by June 4, we can address your next steps.
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May 28, 10, 06:03PM
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rustyironchains: it could have been anything. I worked for a place that had a very high, standard per page rate-- for a few months, before it went under. it is difficult for a company paying out that much to stay in business-- but it does happen. |
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May 28, 10, 06:18PM
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WritersBeware: What is it, exactly, that you want that I have not already provided? I already suggested that you wait at least a week before taking action. If you haven't resolved the problem by June 4, we can address your next steps.
ok thank you
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May 29, 10, 02:24AM
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WritersBeware: Plus, any seasoned fraudster will know how to mask the text so that even a 100% plagiarized paper won't be detected by Turnitin or any other plagiarism detector.
Yes. There was this very interesting 20/20 report on how to beat turnitin. The fraudsters always find a way ...
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Jun 8, 10, 10:31PM
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Wb: Hi I was wondering what to do next? you said give it a week, it's more than a week now, can you advise on what to do next about that client? thanks
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Jun 10, 10, 05:26AM
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WritersBeware: Are you kidding? Why would you EVER order from some unaccountable, private party?
WritersBeware, I know this is somewhat unrelated to the Andrew Kaiser question, but if I may I'd like to stray from the main topic for a moment and ask a question. What in your opinion should such a private party - if he/she happens to actually be honest in his/her business practices - do to let people know their not just some unaccountable private party that might not screw them over but just might. Should they register as a business, at least as a sole proprietorship? Would this prevent that shadiness associated with being a private party? Let's be clear: I'm not asking how a fraudulent private party can make themselves appear legitimate, I'm asking how an honest private party can go forward in the business and make it more clear that they are legitimate.
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Jun 11, 10, 02:17AM
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seems like writersbeware is a cool guy who always thinking about how to hijack some ones question ending totally in a meaningless conclusion. lol
if you want to increase post count just create a forum for yourself and do it there.
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