chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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Jun 29, 09, 10:27AM
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Lavinia I think I proved my point here... We can discuss further if you want to...
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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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Jun 29, 09, 10:35AM
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All the liars and cheats of this forum have just vanished probably... Every time i slap back on their faces with verifiable evidence against them, they just vanish.........
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pheelyks Member Joined: Jan 20, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 1070
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| Edited by: pheelyks Jun 29, 09, 10:59AM
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chacha421: no contract signing... I signed a contract for my US based company, even as a freelancer. I pay taxes on the money they pay me, and they report my pay as an expenditure, It's a standard freelancing arrangement, with the full legal responsibility and protection of the US court system, Yes, it is different from regular employment, but there is absolutely an avenue for recourse should I ever be cheated...which I haven't been.
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dearbats Member Joined: Jan 14, 08 Topics: 1 Posts: 144
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Jun 29, 09, 11:00AM
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Lavinia: I'm not interested in the ongoing slugfest but I thought it would be wise to step in and correct the error so readers know what's up. Lavinia, sending you a PM. Could you respond pls?
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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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Jun 29, 09, 11:01AM
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pheelyks: I signed a contract for my US based company, even as a freelancer Your employer signed the contract too along with you? or you were just tricked?
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pheelyks Member Joined: Jan 20, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 1070
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Jun 29, 09, 11:02AM
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chacha421: Let's assume that writers sign a contract, have you seen the signature of other party on that same contract? Yes.
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OxbridgeResearchers Member Joined: May 2, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 943
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Jun 29, 09, 11:07AM
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pheelyks: I signed a contract for my US based company, even as a freelancer. Thank you. The legits sign contracts, if only to protect themselves ...
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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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| Edited by: chacha421 Jun 29, 09, 11:10AM
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Please produce the evidence.. a legally binding contract made on legally binding paper (with fully stamp duty paid and issued by a qualified stamp vendor and duly endorsed by a qualified lawyer) OxbridgeResearchers: Thank you. The legits sign contracts, if only to protect themselves ... Yes the type of contract offered by AA..... I am sure you must have gone through it ?
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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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Jun 29, 09, 11:11AM
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Are you sure that was a contract or non disclosure agreement?
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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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| Edited by: chacha421 Jun 29, 09, 11:18AM
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Pheelyks, my friend, I am sure you must have read the contract you have signed, but i suggest you to re-read it again and particulary look for this type of clauses in your contract.. I never deny that so called legits of the industry, in order to trick their writers and customers, do ask them to sign a contract but as a writer you are at 100% loss if your contract contain following type of clause You understand that we are not partners or joint venturers, and we are not your employer, neither are you our employee. " Please read the contract of AA and you will really know what are your actual rights and whether they are enforceable legally or you have just been tricked.. http://www.academicknowledge.com/researchercp/researchercp/contracts/contra ct.php
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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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Jun 29, 09, 11:46AM
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OR and Party have just vanished probably? OR I am repeating my offer again.... Hire me as your business manager mate... I know about business more than you do...... and for God's sake stop your dirty tricks on this forum.. you are damaging yourself.... Take this as a friendly advice from a business pro......
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Carly Member Joined: Jun 2, 09 Posts: 76
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| Edited by: Carly Jun 29, 09, 12:02PM
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chacha421: I had the issue with essaybay because it still owe me $100 and i have repeatedly sent emails to your admin but never received any reply from your side despite the lapse of three months.. so these $100 does not mean to me anything now and you can keep them as a donation... There are issues with essaybay and it must act quickly to solve them.. Actually, I insist - can you please PM me the details so I can look into this. Regarding the issues and "acting quickly to solve them" I think it is clear from my posts on this forum that we're putting a lot of work into the site at the moment, and we're doing everything to help people who are having problems etc. I've also announced countless times that the site is having a huge overhaul in the autumn. I've already made substantial changes to the control panels over the last couple of weeks to make things easier for new users, and I am currently recoding the project details pages. I've also put in place more support over the last couple of weeks, which admittedly isn't quite perfect - but we're getting there. We just want to make the site as usable as possible! I'd like to investigate your case for you and send over any missing funds. Thanks, Carly

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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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Jun 29, 09, 12:10PM
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Carly: I'd like to investigate your case for you and send over any missing funds. Thanks Carly... Please note that whatever you read here is in no way intended to damage the reputation of essaybay. I consider essaybay as a good company because its automatic payment system through paypal is really nice however, there are some issues specially with CSR. I hope you and your team would really work hard to improve and overcome your weaknesses. My war of words here is with certain individuals and not with you or anyone related with your firm.
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dearbats Member Joined: Jan 14, 08 Topics: 1 Posts: 144
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| Edited by: dearbats Jun 29, 09, 12:19PM
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chacha421: I consider essaybay as a good company because its automatic payment system through paypal is really nice however, there are some issues specially with CSR. What a turnaround!! chacha421: My war of words here is with certain individuals and not with you or anyone related with your firm. People,get that?!!
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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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Jun 29, 09, 12:23PM
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dearbats: What a turnaround!! Re-read my post... Why I considered essaybay as a good company because its automatic payment system through paypal is just excellent... It is just one criteria which i mentioned which sets it apart from others...... I think you need a lesson or two in understanding the real jist of messages...
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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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| Edited by: chacha421 Jun 29, 09, 12:25PM
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dearbats: People,get that?!! True... I openly declare that my war of words is with OR and party (including you) who are using this forum to achieve their marketing objectives, spread lies and falsely accuse Ukranians and others as cheats.. I openly declare that I will continue to expose Oxbridgeresearchers and party till they close down this forum or just vanish...
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dearbats Member Joined: Jan 14, 08 Topics: 1 Posts: 144
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| Edited by: dearbats Jun 29, 09, 12:35PM
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pheelyks: If this evidence is real, then it looks like essaybay is indeed cheating you.... chacha421: I need the help of people like you here who never leave an opportunity unattended to label foreign companies as cheat... It is really amazing to see that when an evidence has been produced against a UK company, all the truth seekers of this forum have combined together to refute and protect the cheaters..... OxbridgeResearchers: I quite clearly said on this, and multiple other occassions, that EB's support system is bad. chacha421: It is not just bad... Their silence is tantamount to fraud because they simply do not reply to settle their own liabilities.. they owe me and they are not replying.. what does this show? It clearly indicate their fraudlent intentions.. You cannot just simply state that their system is bad... chacha421: Is it not an attempt by a UK company to take away a writer's funds? If they are honest and legit, they would have replied to messages and set everything straight.. This happend with me in March and after my few messages, i stopped messaging them because i knew it is of no use.. The very simple fact that they do not reply to any of the messages indicate their intentions... ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ................................................................ AND THEN, THIS .............. chacha421: Please note that whatever you read here is in no way intended to damage the reputation of essaybay. chacha421: My war of words here is with certain individuals and not with you or anyone related with your firm.

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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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Jun 29, 09, 12:40PM
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You are again mistaken my Indian friend.... I rated essaybay as best based on just one criteria.. and that is their automatic payment system through paypal... No one in the industry offer this option except them.... I stand for all the posts which you showed here... I consider them fraud because they never reply to their writers emails, i consider them as fraud because they remained silenet despite my repeated emails regarding my missing payment..... Do you want to read some appreciation for them??
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pheelyks Member Joined: Jan 20, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 1070
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Jun 29, 09, 12:43PM
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chacha421: Please produce the evidence.. a legally binding contract made on legally binding paper (with fully stamp duty paid and issued by a qualified stamp vendor and duly endorsed by a qualified lawyer) None of my employment contracts, as both a regular employee (where I would show up at a store at appointed hours and was paid a regular wage) or a freelancer, have been notarized by an attorney or anyone else. In the United States, this is not required to make a legally binding contract. I and my employer have signed contracts, and often as an employee I haven't even done that. I'm also not sure what "legally binding paper" is. If I decided t write a contract on toilet paper, and I and the other party signed it (and we both received copies), the contract would be legally binding according to US law. You brag about your legal knowledge, but it seems highly suspect to me. chacha421: Are you sure that was a contract or non disclosure agreement? . Yes. There was a non-disclosure clause in the employment contract, which also covers rates of pay as well as other less important details. chacha421: you are at 100% loss if your contract contain following type of clause You understand that we are not partners or joint venturers, and we are not your employer, neither are you our employee. Explain how I am at "100% loss." I am at "100% loss" for words at your misapprehension. I am NOT an employee of the company I perform work for; I am a subcontracted freelancer. The company must still pay me for any work I agree to do for them, but the contact ensures that they are under no obligation to pay me regularly (only when I do work), are not responsible for paying the various taxes associated with normal employees, and gives me the freedom to work when and how often I choose without fear of termination or reprisal. Though I would prefer to be an employee for tax reasons (self-employment tax in the US is ridiculously high, as is the cost of private medical insurance), the freelance contract still offers a guarantee of payment for services.

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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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| Edited by: chacha421 Jun 29, 09, 12:48PM
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pheelyks: legally binding paper A legally binding paper is one which is issued by the government, sold through a notary public and endorsed by a qualified lawyer.. I don't know if in US lawyers endorse toilet papers.. may be this is the practice and that is why they are most expensive in the world too.. pheelyks: In the United States, this is not required to make a legally binding contract Do you think a contract made on a plain paper is legally enforcable? Never...
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Carly Member Joined: Jun 2, 09 Posts: 76
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| Edited by: Carly Jun 29, 09, 12:51PM
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Chacha, again: please can you send me your writer ID or your project number so I can investigate what money we owe you. If your claims are true, I can send it over right away - possibly within the next hour. I am sure this is just a mistake - as I said - I thought the issue had been resolved on Friday, though I was scanning through emails and didn't have the particulars of your situation - so I could have been looking at the wrong emails I guess.
As I say, PLEASE can you send me your account or the project details for me to investigate.
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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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Jun 29, 09, 12:53PM
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Carly: As I say, PLEASE can you send me your account or the project details for me to investigate I will email the whole thing to admin probably tommorow morning...
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Carly Member Joined: Jun 2, 09 Posts: 76
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Jun 29, 09, 12:54PM
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chacha421:: It is not just bad... Their silence is tantamount to fraud because they simply do not reply to settle their own liabilities.. they owe me and they are not replying.. what does this show? It clearly indicate their fraudlent intentions.. You cannot just simply state that their system is bad... :-) Additionally, I am trying to help now and 'settle this liability' - but you're not providing me with the details!
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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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Jun 29, 09, 12:55PM
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pheelyks: freelance contract still offers a guarantee of payment for services. You will know how much guarantee these contracts offer you when you take these companies to the court...
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Carly Member Joined: Jun 2, 09 Posts: 76
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| Edited by: Carly Jun 29, 09, 12:55PM
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chacha421: Carly: As I say, PLEASE can you send me your account or the project details for me to investigate I will email the whole thing to admin probably tommorow morning... But, if you email me your writer ID, or your project number (either to admin@ or carly@) I can fix this for you right now.
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dearbats Member Joined: Jan 14, 08 Topics: 1 Posts: 144
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Jun 29, 09, 12:57PM
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Carly: am trying to help now and 'settle this liability' - but you're not providing me with the details! Forget it Carly, you're simply wasting your time. He/she will never respond to anything reasonable and logical.
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pheelyks Member Joined: Jan 20, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 1070
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Jun 29, 09, 01:00PM
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chacha421: Do you think a contract made on a plain paper is legally enforcable? Never... Yes, it is. Every day. The lease for my apartment is on regular paper (not notarized or signed by an attorney, either). I have successfully sued a former landlord based on just such a contract. Maybe the law is different in the UK, or Pakistan, or wherever you're from, but you obviously don't know anything about US contract law. The government does not sell paper to write contracts on. Notaries are available, and are required for certain contracts, but employment/freelancing contracts are not among them. Other examples of contracts I am under that were signed on normal white printing paper without the use of a notary public or attorney: -Credit card agreements -Bank account agreements -Leases (as stated above) -Safety releases (waiving liability) -Sales contracts (buying a used car, specifically) Can anyone else come up with some more? These are the only ones I can think of that I have had personal experience with.

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pheelyks Member Joined: Jan 20, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 1070
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Jun 29, 09, 01:01PM
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chacha421: You will know how much guarantee these contracts offer you when you take these companies to the court... They have never given me any reason to take them to court. If you didn't work for such shady companies (not that anyone else in this industry would hire you), maybe you wouldn't have such problems.
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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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Jun 29, 09, 01:01PM
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dearbats: Forget it Carly, you're simply wasting your time. He/she will never respond to anything reasonable and logical. Really????? Off-course i am not going to respond about purely a private issue on this public forum...... I will email her all the details... Don't you worry about it..... and please keep your logic with yourself... I know you need it most..
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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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Jun 29, 09, 01:04PM
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pheelyks: They have never given me any reason to take them to court What if they offer you that reason? What if a conflict of interest arise and you have nothing left but to refer to the court of law? What would be your legal position than? ZERO because you are being made to believe in legality of such contracts.. I would suggest you to show your contract to your lawyer and request for legal vetting of the same.. You will exactly know how much protected you are.... Don't live in a fool's paradise...
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Carly Member Joined: Jun 2, 09 Posts: 76
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| Edited by: Carly Jun 29, 09, 01:04PM
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chacha421: I will email her all the details... I look forward to it. I'm leaving work in 45 minutes - so the sooner the better! If you send it after, I'll pick it up tomorrow morning- first thing. Carly
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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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Jun 29, 09, 01:06PM
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pheelyks: Can anyone else come up with some more? These are the only ones I can think of that I have had personal experience with. They must have been affixed with some legal stamp.. I am not sure about US law but this can not be.. There must be a legal stamp or ticket affixed on them... re-check them again for any such sign..
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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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Jun 29, 09, 01:07PM
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pheelyks: The lease for my apartment is on regular paper It can never be...... If it is not registered with any legal authority, it is nothing more than a piece of paper..... look into them again.... there must involvement of any authority in such process..
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pheelyks Member Joined: Jan 20, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 1070
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Jun 29, 09, 01:08PM
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chacha421: ZERO because you are being made to believe in legality of such contracts.. I have provided you with many examples of legally binding contracts that occurred on the same terms as my freelance contract. Instead of explaining how this contract is unenforceable despite resounding evidence that it is, you continue to make the same general accusation. Either back your claims up with evidence (this means citing a law, not simply repeating your assertions), or shut up.
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chacha421 Member Joined: Jun 17, 09 Topics: 4 Posts: 548
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Jun 29, 09, 01:11PM
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pheelyks: Either back your claims up with evidence Do you back your claims with evidence? I don't think so but you haven't shut up your mouth yet and you are advising me for this.... A person shall never advise something which he or she cannot follow personally.....
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pheelyks Member Joined: Jan 20, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 1070
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Jun 29, 09, 01:11PM
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chacha421: They must have been affixed with some legal stamp This is not true. How many other people on this forum have credit cards, for which they are legally entitled to certain benefits and are obligated to the issuing companies for payment along certain terms? Now, of those that raised their hands, how many have a contract with a certified stamp or attorney's signature present? None of you? Really? How many think they would win a court battle against Visa claiming that their contract was invalid?
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dearbats Member Joined: Jan 14, 08 Topics: 1 Posts: 144
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Jun 29, 09, 01:17PM
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When i sign a debit or credit card, it's merely a piece of paper which does not include any seal or government stamp nor is it notarized to authenticate it. Yet, if I fail to make payments for these funds (not in the case of debit cards), I can be held accountable in an Indian court of law.
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pheelyks Member Joined: Jan 20, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 1070
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| Edited by: pheelyks Jun 29, 09, 01:21PM
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chacha421: Do you back your claims with evidence? I don't think so I'm sorry I haven't uploaded copies of the numerous contracts I listed as evidence. Here is a quote from the Uniform Commercial Code, however: "(1) Except in the cases described in subsection (2) of this section a contract for the sale of personal property is not enforceable by way of action or defense beyond five thousand dollars in amount or value of remedy unless there is some writing which indicates that a contract for sale has been made between the parties at a defined or stated price, reasonably identifies the subject matter, and is signed by the party against whom enforcement is sought or by his authorized agent." Hmmm....no mention of a notary or attorney. And if the amount is under $5,000, no written contract is necessary at all....
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pheelyks Member Joined: Jan 20, 09 Topics: 6 Posts: 1070
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Jun 29, 09, 01:22PM
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I have a lot of work to do today, so fun time has to end, but Ill check in with you later, chacha.
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WritersBeware Member Joined: Apr 19, 07 Topics: 91 Posts: 5022
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Jun 29, 09, 01:49PM
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chacha421: OxbridgeResearchers: How about reading WB on Essaybay????? Where is it stated that she "loves"them because they are British. She has criticised them (but on the basis of evidence) countless times! Show me a single post where she did it? Dude, how utterly clueless can one be? Example AExample BExample CExample DExample ENow, caca, for the sake of all that is righteous—stop your clueless lies.
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