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Jun 28, 09, 05:26AM
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chacha421: Hey EW_writer !!! I have set a perfect platform for you to set score with WB and her pathetic colleagues...... Com'on... show them that they are cheat and fraud too....
U really do think you're smart, don't you?
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Jun 28, 09, 06:41AM
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dearbats: U really do think you're smart, don't you? :) as if!!!! He believes he can play EW!!!! :) That is a real joke :)
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Jun 28, 09, 07:52AM
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OxbridgeResearchers: As to why the escrow was never released to you What does this indicate? Is it not a fraud? Is it not an attempt by a UK company to take away a writer's funds? If they are honest and legit, they would have replied to messages and set everything straight.. This happend with me in March and after my few messages, i stopped messaging them because i knew it is of no use.. The very simple fact that they do not reply to any of the messages indicate their intentions...
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Jun 28, 09, 07:53AM
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WritersBeware: For some completely inexplicable reason If this is the case why he paid to the company and not to the writer? In all cases, he paid it...
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Jun 28, 09, 07:56AM
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OxbridgeResearchers: you know absolutely nothing about our "companies," Thats the catch.. I always challenge you that mention your companies here and proofs will follow... Gather up some courage, tell the world which site you operate and you will get the proofs...
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Jun 28, 09, 07:58AM
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OxbridgeResearchers: evidence of real fraud Evidence which is acceptable to you and your party is real and other evidence is simply a propaganda... this is what you want to say..
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Jun 28, 09, 08:01AM
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pheelyks: If this evidence is real, then it looks like essaybay is indeed cheating you. Of course, as others have prolifically pointed out, you can;t really prove the validity of the emails. I am also inclined to agree that the mistake was in the symbol used, not in the actual amount of money. I need the help of people like you here who never leave an opportunity unattended to label foreign companies as cheat... It is really amazing to see that when an evidence has been produced against a UK company, all the truth seekers of this forum have combined together to refute and protect the cheaters.....
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Jun 28, 09, 08:03AM
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pheelyks: I'm sure WB's got to be at least 45....points higher than you It can never be... the kind of posts WB post here does indicate her level of intelligence.... Readers of this forum (except WB and party) are intelligent enough to judge the biasness of her claims..
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Jun 28, 09, 08:06AM
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EW_writer: Wait... I'd just like to get the facts straight first. Your bid was accepted, you got the email indicating that the escrow payment was made, you did the work and sent it to the client, and then what happened? Then suddenly the status of escrow payment on my profile for that particular order was changed to " PENDING".. When a customer sends money into Escrow, you get an email that funds have been placed in escrow... and the status of payment shown on that particular order is reflected as " ESCROW SENT"...
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Jun 28, 09, 08:07AM
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dearbats: U really do think you're smart, don't you? No I am not .. I have left this to an Indian to show the world how smart he is...
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Edited by: OxbridgeResearchers Jun 28, 09, 08:19AM
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chacha421: i stopped messaging them I quite clearly said on this, and multiple other occassions, that EB's support system is bad.
chacha421: I always challenge you that mention your companies here and proofs will follow There's a little problem with that - somthing called FORUM RULES. Considering that you have, on numerous occassions, violated those rules through the mention and promotion of your company, you may not understand the notion of RESPECT FOR RULES. If the mod comes out and permits me to, I will ...
chacha421: Evidence which is acceptable to you and your party is real and other evidence is simply a propaganda Not at all true ... evidence which is accepted by the majority, not by me.chacha421: site you operate and you will get the proofs Plural, sites not site ... and singular, proof not proofs
Fool ... you assume that we are here to pick up customers and, hence, you have deluded yourself into believing that we are attacking others in order to drive students our way. Not very intelligent thinking: 1) I do not mention my sites so how am I driving customers towards them? 2) This is not a place to pick up customers and if any company relies on drumming up business through this site, they will go bust 3) It is, however, a good place to spot talented and qualified writers ... and you cannot be counted as one.
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Jun 28, 09, 08:24AM
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chacha421: Then suddenly the status of escrow payment on my profile for that particular order was changed to " PENDING".. When a customer sends money into Escrow, you get an email that funds have been placed in escrow... and the status of payment shown on that particular order is reflected as " ESCROW SENT"... Errr... I don't get it. If the customer did make the escrow payment, you would see the payment displayed on your control panel. That's the only time when you should begin working on the paper. So are you saying that this money already appeared on your control panel and then disappeared somehow?
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Edited by: chacha421 Jun 28, 09, 08:30AM
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OxbridgeResearchers: I quite clearly said on this, and multiple other occassions, that EB's support system is bad. It is not just bad... Their silence is tantamount to fraud because they simply do not reply to settle their own liabilities.. they owe me and they are not replying.. what does this show? It clearly indicate their fraudlent intentions.. You cannot just simply state that their system is bad... OxbridgeResearchers: evidence which is accepted by the majority Even if it is wrong? this is what you and your party has been doing... One member produces faulty evidence.. others from the group start to support it.. Perhaps you must have read the Mass communication theories that lie repeated many times through propaganda and other means is finally accepted as truth.. so that does not mean that what majority believes can be true... OxbridgeResearchers: I do not mention my sites so how am I driving customers towards it? By identifying others as cheat and fraud, you leave very limited room for such companies therefore naturally customers start looking for alternative companies and thats where your sites come in... This is really an innovative way of driving the customers towards your site..
OxbridgeResearchers: I do not mention my sites so how am I driving customers towards it? Thats not needed.. You have labelled everyone except yours as cheat and anyone reading this forum will naturally start to look for companies other than mentioned here as cheats so ultimately they will land on your sites.
OxbridgeResearchers: This is not a place to pick up customers and if any business relies on drumming up business through this site, they will go bust This is the place and you know how successfully you have used this forum to pick customers.
OxbridgeResearchers: It is, however, a good place to spot talented and qualified writers ... and you cannot be counted as one. I am writing since last five years and completed hundreds of papers.. I do not need recognition from you and your party.. If I am so bad how come this industry is allowing me to continue writing?
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Jun 28, 09, 08:31AM
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EW_writer: So are you saying that this money already appeared on your control panel and then disappeared Yup..
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Jun 28, 09, 08:45AM
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That is weird. What did admin say? Did you check if you were replaced as the writer?
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Jun 28, 09, 08:49AM
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EW_writer: That is weird. What did admin say? Did you check if you were replaced as the writer? They never reply... thats the ESP of EB A writer cannot be replaced once bid is accepted and escrow is sent.. They have dispute management system to settle quality issues...
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Edited by: pheelyks Jun 28, 09, 08:50AM
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Wow, chacha. You managed to ignore the substance of my post yet again. You quoted the part that makes it seem like I'm against you, when really my post encouraged you in your exposition of essaybay's fraud, assuming this fraud actually occurred. Way to perpetuate your sense of victimization!
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Jun 28, 09, 08:53AM
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pheelyks: assuming this fraud actually occurred It does occured..... And i can quote many more examples of frauds here.... Not just the explicit frauds but the implicit frauds too which they are committing without getting noticed..
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Edited by: pheelyks Jun 28, 09, 08:54AM
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chacha421: pheelyks: assuming this fraud actually occurred It does occured..... And i can quote many more examples of frauds here.... Not just the explicit frauds but the implicit frauds too which they are committing without getting noticed.. Once again, ignoring the substance.
pheelyks: Wow, chacha. You managed to ignore the substance of my post yet again. You quoted the part that makes it seem like I'm against you, when really my post encouraged you in your exposition of essaybay's fraud, assuming this fraud actually occurred. Way to perpetuate your sense of victimization!
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Jun 28, 09, 08:54AM
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pheelyks: Way to perpetuate your sense of victimization I don't consider myself as victim... This happend with me in March and i hardly pursued that matter with them.... I only disclosed it here because i wanted to shatter the myth that UK and US companies are LEGIT and do not cheat writers and customers......
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Jun 28, 09, 08:57AM
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chacha421: This is really an innovative way of driving the customers towards your site.. Such a roundabout and stupid way. Why bank on such a stupid marketing tactic - one whose end results are highly questionable - when there are plenty of e-marketing firms around? Sorry ... but I prefer my marketing to be more direct and result-oriented.
chacha421: You have labelled everyone except yours as cheat Unfortunately, not true ... your descent into blatant slander has forced me to defend competitors ...
chacha421: This is the place and you know how successfully you have used this forum to pick customers. Not customers - excellent potential writers, though. If you want to market essaybrunch and build a customer-base, you really should look into the adoption and implementation of a SOUND marketing strategy. Your current one ... simply not good ...
chacha421: I am writing since last five years and completed hundreds of papers.. I do not need recognition from you and your party.. If I am so bad how come this industry is allowing me to continue writing? Now you have identified the problem! Linguistically and academically unqualified individuals have entered this industry. You know why? Not because you are a good writer (not at all) but because writers of your quality settle for very low rates. You are a money-pinching strategy, part and parcel of the modus operandi particular to scammers. Charge customers a bomb, go cheap on writers and refuse to give customers refunds which are rightfully theirs ....
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Jun 28, 09, 08:57AM
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pheelyks: Once again, ignoring the substance M I ignoring the substance? You must have noticed yourself and I am sure readers of this forum will note this down too that those who are very vocal against non-UK and US companies are really silent on this evidence.. They are trying hard to circumvent the real jist of this issue by providing pathetic arguments..
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Jun 28, 09, 09:00AM
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chacha421: I don't consider myself as victim... This happend with me in March and i hardly pursued that matter with them.... I only disclosed it here because i wanted to shatter the myth that UK and US companies are LEGIT and do not cheat writers and customers...... Ummmm.....not my point at all. I really don't care a whole lot about your issues with essaybay; given your English skills, you shouldn't be working as a writer in this industry anyway. What I a taking issue with is the fact that you constantly represent yourself as a victim of others (including myself) on this forum, and when I posted something that actually agreed with you and encouraged some of your efforts, you only quoted the part of my post that you thought was against you. Here's the whole post again to show you what I mean:
pheelyks: If this evidence is real, then it looks like essaybay is indeed cheating you. Of course, as others have prolifically pointed out, you can;t really prove the validity of the emails. I am also inclined to agree that the mistake was in the symbol used, not in the actual amount of money. As for taking the customer's money and not paying you, that is definitely wrong...if it happened. You should probably stop working for them now (the customers will be better off, too). I never said--in fact, have REPEATEDLY TOLD YOU--that any company based in the US or UK was automatically legitimate. But when companies in these countries do things that are illegal or fraudulent, they can be taken to court. If you have a legitimate dispute with essaybay, sue them! You would be helping everyone that works for the company. When companies in India, or the Ukraine, or Pakistan screw customers and/or writers over, there is no real recourse (except through chargebacks, etc). That, coupled with the fact that I have yet to find a reputable foreign site (not that they necessarily don't exist), are the reasons I recommend using US/Uk based services.
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Edited by: chacha421 Jun 28, 09, 09:00AM
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OxbridgeResearchers: but I prefer my marketing to be more direct and result-oriented. True.. No forum will offer a more better opportunity for direct marketing than this forum.. Do you know the meaning of direct marketing? In this industry you can never think of doing this because the appropriate forums for such type of marketing either would be Universities, student fairs, student hostels etc and you know no university will allow you to just put there table show their to market a service which counts towards Plagiarism.. What is left is forums like this one and SEO to bank on for your marketing efforts.... You can not fool many here because they have better business acumen than you and your party collectively possess.
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Jun 28, 09, 09:06AM
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OxbridgeResearchers: Now you have identified the problem! Linguistically and academically unqualified individuals have entered this industry. You know why? Not because you are a good writer (not at all) but because writers of your quality settle for very low rates. You are a money-pinching strategy, part and parcel of the modus operandi particular to scammers. Charge customers a bomb, go cheap on writers and refuse to give customers refunds which are rightfully theirs .... Are you sure you do not do this? Explain to me a very simple thing.. If scammers produce bad quality, why they attract repeat customers? Why they are in the business yet? why not the impact of bad quality have not yet snow-balled into their losses? During peaktime they have 100s of orders and that means 100s of customers....and many of them repeat customers.. do you think customers are just idiots to put their money into something which do not deliver the results? Oh! Com'on.. come out of this myth... You cannot continue to compete you want to base your marketing strategy on such trivial things... Perhaps you should hire me as your business development manager.........
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Jun 28, 09, 09:08AM
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OxbridgeResearchers: Not customers - excellent potential writers, though. If you want to market essaybrunch and build a customer-base, you really should look into the adoption and implementation of a SOUND marketing strategy. Your current one ... simply not good ... First Lets make it straight one more time.. I do not own essaybrunch.com.. Evidence posted by me here clearly prove me as a writer.... secondly, you are simply lying when you say you do not use this forum to attract customers......
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Jun 28, 09, 09:11AM
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chacha421: do you think customers are just idiots to put their money into something which do not deliver the results? Often, yes. I hate to say this (and it is not true of most customers), but some of them are complete idiots. I uploaded the completely wrong paper (for an entirely different order) to a customer recently by mistake. Their only concern was that I had used different sources than they had expected--when the paper was on a completely different topic!!!
Of course, they got the correct paper once I was made aware of the mistake (without my charging the additional money they offered to pay for some reason). This type of customer would not have been able to tell the difference between your writing (i.e. BAD) and mine (fluent and understandable English).
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Jun 28, 09, 09:12AM
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pheelyks: . I really don't care a whole lot about your issues with essaybay You and your party only care about your own business..... The day essaybay (if it is not owned by OR and others) become your direct competitior, you will start caring about our issues...
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Jun 28, 09, 09:13AM
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chacha421: Perhaps you should hire me as your business development manager......... Thanks for the offer but as with previous ones ... I think I should pass ..
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Jun 28, 09, 09:14AM
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You are right.. they are really idiots because they rely on services offerd by people like OR.. they must know how to distinguish between good ones and bad ones...
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Edited by: pheelyks Jun 28, 09, 09:14AM
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chacha421: pheelyks: . I really don't care a whole lot about your issues with essaybay You and your party only care about your own business..... The day essaybay (if it is not owned by OR and others) become your direct competitior, you will start caring about our issues... Stop ******* selective quoting! I used to think you were doing this on purpose to deliberately misrepresent what I and others say. Now I think you're just an idiot who can't tell the difference between an attack ad a helping hand. I really wish I could reach through the Internets and smack some sense into you.
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Jun 28, 09, 09:16AM
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pheelyks: your writing (i.e. BAD) and mine (fluent and understandable English). I have never seen individuals anywhere else except this forum who self-praise themselves alot.. Like I said earlier, OR and party are the investigators, lawyers and judges.. all in one.. they decide whom to investigate, whom to charge with crime and whom to punish....... Your inability to listen to others' ideas is indicating the kind of persons you are......
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Jun 28, 09, 09:18AM
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chacha421: I have never seen individuals anywhere else except this forum who self-praise themselves alot So, I am engaging in "self-praise" by proclaiming that I speak and write in fluent English? Wow, I think a lot of myself! It's my native and only language, too...
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Edited by: chacha421 Jun 28, 09, 09:19AM
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Examples of your fluent english
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Edited by: chacha421 Jun 28, 09, 09:23AM
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chacha421: I have never seen individuals anywhere else except this forum who self-praise themselves alot.. Like I said earlier, OR and party are the investigators, lawyers and judges.. all in one.. they decide whom to investigate, whom to charge with crime and whom to punish....... Your inability to listen to others' ideas is indicating the kind of persons you are......
pheelyks: So, I am engaging in "self-praise" by proclaiming that I speak and write in fluent English? Wow, I think a lot of myself! It's my native and only language, too
Now You are ignoring the substance of my post......
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Edited by: chacha421 Jun 28, 09, 09:25AM
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These mistakes indicate the quality of your fluent english
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Jun 28, 09, 09:35AM
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So my dear pheelyks.. where have you vanished after someone pointed out mistakes in your flawless and fluent english?
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Jun 28, 09, 11:00AM
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chacha421: I have left this to an Indian to show the world how smart he is... National and racial slurs ... you are really a piece of work! At least, dearbats is proud of her nationality and does not claim to be from Oldham (need I remind you that you thought Oldham was in Manchester until I corrected you a long while back). Talk yourself blue in the face from now on ... whatever you write, I wil neither read nor respond to. Draw the line at associating, even virtually, with RACISTS ...
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Jun 28, 09, 12:19PM
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OxbridgeResearchers: whatever you write, I wil neither read nor respond to. Nice way to hide your inefficiencies.... When you can't win an argument and cover up your inefficiencies and dirty tricks better leave the forum...... To be called an Indian is a matter of proud for me and everyone who is associated with this region..... Its an honor not a racial slur.. do not try to circumvent information here...
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chacha421: chacha421: I have never seen individuals anywhere else except this forum who self-praise themselves alot.. Like I said earlier, OR and party are the investigators, lawyers and judges.. all in one.. they decide whom to investigate, whom to charge with crime and whom to punish....... Your inability to listen to others' ideas is indicating the kind of persons you are...... pheelyks: So, I am engaging in "self-praise" by proclaiming that I speak and write in fluent English? Wow, I think a lot of myself! It's my native and only language, too Now You are ignoring the substance of my post...... This is the substance of all of your posts. I've replied to it before, as have many others, asking for proof. This time, I responded to the only new thing that you said.
chacha421: These mistakes indicate the quality of your fluent english pheelyks: ad pheelyks: Internets The first one was a typo. Mea culpa (that's Latin, by the way). The second was a joke common of many people, making the word "Internet" plural and often adding the definite article "the" before it. I will try not to use anything even vaguely humorous in my future posts. Is this really the worst you could find? I know I've made more significant typos at times.
chacha421: So my dear pheelyks.. where have you vanished after someone pointed out mistakes in your flawless and fluent english? I actually do some things besides posting here--like taking showers, eating breakfast, having a life, working....I'll try to answer your whining (whinging in the UK) more promptly in the future.
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