good trust worthy company

Hmm... is this true, Jennifer?

I am 100% sure that this post will be removed soon

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Project Freelance Writing Project
Project Status Writer (WRITER) Chosen (Escrow Pending)
Budget $100.----------
Created On 18 March 00:15:16
End On 20 March 00:15:16
-2408 Hour(s) : 60 Minute(s) : 60 Second(s)
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Project Type Essay
Length 1000
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Deadline 20 (Deleted) March
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Level Undergraduate/Bachelors Degree
Standard Required 90%
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Referencing style: harvard referencing

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This is the email I received from the UK based company indicating that the Escrow payment for above order has been placed in my account:
EssayBay Escrow Payment‏
From: admin@essaybay.com
Sent: Sat 3/21/09 4:32 AM
To:

The Buyer (Omitted) has just placed £135 into an escrow account at EssayBay. The money has NOT yet been deposited into your account. This transaction can only be completed by the sender (), and only you can cancel it. The escrow system serves as proof that a money deposit has been made for you at EssayBay
As you can see, the site is showing Escrow as pending despite the fact that buyer has paid the amount, got the receipt for payment and essaybay sent me confirmation that funds have been placed in escrow... I can also post different emails that I and customer sent to essaybay and they did not replied......

IS'NT A FRAUD OXBRIDGERESEARCHERS committed by your very own LEGIT, REGISTERED, UK COMPANY............

By all means........please go ahead. We need champions of truth and courage like you in the writing industry. I wish you luck in all your legal, moral and ethical battles against all the illegal and fraud writing companies of the UK and US.

Those in India, Pakistan, and the other parts of the world are, I'm sure, adhering to all the legal and ethical standards, so they can have your support.

Since you're fighting such an important battle, I'd suggest that the foundation should be strong; so lets begin with having you admit which country you hail from, rather than posing as a UK citizen. This way, you can champion the cause of truth with honesty and courage, so that I or anyone else, can't point a finger at you. What say?

Good luck!!

Your wait is over...... check the evidence.. I can produce the original also ... Lets see whether you to stick to what you say.... Lets see how good your conscience is... Lets see how better person you are who is willing to stand for truth and justice

You're trying to say that the client paid you for a paper which you wrote and the company declined the payment?

don't try to distract attention... Justice is always Justice... you should stand for it regardless of the fact that the person putting forward the evidence belong to different race and color... Have courage.. openly deplore UK Based companies that are committing frauds? Probably you can not because you risk loosing your own job.....
I am based in Manchester, UK.. You can always reach me at Lacrosse avenue, Oldham, Greater Manchester

No... As you may be aware of the fact that this site works on a bidding bases. Once a buyer pays in escrow, only writer can cancel that payment... In this case buyer paid and the site is showing that payment still as pending........ despite the fact that i received official email from them that funds have been placed in escrow.. once funds are in escrow, only writer can cancel tham and buyer can release them and in this case, payment has been paid to the co and not to the writer.. further as you can see, the co works on a commission basis i.e. they charge commissions but behind all this they are also committing an other fraud... they charge customers in GBP POUNDS (This is what their email shows.) however, they pay the equivalent amount of GBP Pounds in dollars without giving the exchange difference to the writer.. In this way they are not only earning commissions but profits arising due to exchange differences too...

I won't risk losing my job for such trivial reasons.




PM me your phone number and we'll confirm within a sec.

Does OR and WB ever given their phone numbers? No private information exchange please... I can stand in the court of law and will produce the whole evidence........ till than if you have courage to deplore these companies-- do it--- or just vanish......

Evidence against your masters is trivial and evidence posted against competitors of your employers is significant.... this is what you want to say???

So you finally accepted that you are part of the same gang of OR and WB posting wrong information and distracting innocent customers and writers to shy away from your competitors.....

I am not a champion and neither i claim it.. I have left this for OR and WB to cheat customers and writers while hiding behind the tags of champions of truth..

Hey chacha, one question. Were you paid the $135 (not the GBP 135) for the order you described? Was the payment ever released to your account by the customer?

WHERE IS OR, WB, pheelyks of the world.. I request you to please come forward. further investigate my evidence and set a new beginning. If you can prove my evidence as wrong, I will render a public appology and will never appear on this forum again.. However, if you or others cannot prove this evidence as wrong, I request you to please join hands together to fight against crime in this industry regardless of the origins of such sites..

Race and color don't matter Chacha......what matters to me is that you're pointing a finger at those who aren't in the least involved, by your generalizations.



I consider this to be morally and ethically incorrect. If the writer has paid for your work, there's no reason for the company to cancel payments to you. Unless ofcourse, the writer has communicated dissatisfaction or demanded a refund.



These are means by which companies make additional profits and will ofcourse, benefit from the exchange differences. This is the whole essence of the outsourcing industry. Why do you think India and other Asian countries are the preferred destination of the Western world?

No i was never paid this amount.. Customer cannot release this payment to me because it was never placed in escrow despite the fact that he paid... It is still with essaybay and despite my and customers emails.. they never replied... Probably their staff need training in replying emails too.....
I fear that my account may be deleted by essaybay..

I think you misunderstood me my friend.. Let me explain it further..

Suppose you place an order and I place a bid for let say $100. Add commissions into it and you will be required to pay approximately $135. At the time you pay in escrow through your paypal account, as a writer i will get the email from essaybay that the customer has place GBP 135 (NOT $135 which is the actual amount) into escrow... When order is completed and uploaded by the writer, if the customer is satisfied, he will release the payment from escrow into your account and the matter is over.. the catch here is ( May be it is their programming error) is that Essaybay is only entitled to received commissions which in this case will be $35 however, they get more than this.. for example

Total amount to be paid to writer = $100
Commission of essaybay = $35
Total amount to be paid by the buyer = $ 135
Actual amount paid by the buyer(according to essaybay email) = GBP 135
1 GBP = $1.649 (28.06.2009 rate)
Total equivalent in $ = $222.615
Actual payment to writer = $100
Total difference kept by essaybay = $122.615

So essaybay despite claiming that they charge only commission in actual keep more than just commission-- They are not only cheating their customers but also their writers.. Secondly, they show on their site that they pay through wire transfer and that tricks international writers to register with them.. when they complete the orders, they come to know that Essaybay hardly pays through wire transfer and even if they do they do it after ages.. so till essaybay actually release amount through wire transfer, it enjoys writers amount freely...

They are involved because they openly claim that no UK or US site cheats and frauds.. They are trying to create a wrong impression here.... This is my whole point...

I've never been a fan of the shameless promotional tactics that Academic Answers employs, but where is your proof that 135 GBP (and not 135 USD) was actually paid by the customer? It seems fairly illogical to me—and any other person with a healthy brain—that the customer would just fork over "$222.615," like a mindless automaton, if the agreed upon price is $135.

From what I've gathered, caca's claim of "fraud" seems to be nothing more than an incorrect display of "GBP" instead of "USD" in EB's system.

Read this email... Every writer gets this email when a buyer place funds in escrow.. (It is possible that the email programmed may have the wrong currency symbol but untill we get an official clarification from essabay... this is fraud)

EssayBay Escrow Payment‏
From: admin@essaybay.com
Sent: Sat //09
To:

The Buyer (Omitted) has just placed £135 into an escrow account at EssayBay. The money has NOT yet been deposited into your account. This transaction can only be completed by the sender (), and only you can cancel it. The escrow system serves as proof that a money deposit has been made for you at EssayBay

WRONG.

End of debate.

And they have not noticed this incorrect display since their inception?

Good way to end a debate.. when you can't refute... just run away.. What about my other evidence where they took my money....? Is this evidence a display error too?

I don't run from anyone. I'm not the fastest runner, anyway, which is why it's a pretty good thing than I'm able to stand my ground and kick arse when confronted with false claims by any and all frauds like you.


You made an accusation. While watching TV and half asleep, I've proved that you both LIED and have ZERO evidence to substantiate your claim that EB actually receives more than 135 USD. Show me proof that the customer actually paid "$222.615" or do everyone a favor by shutting up.

You lose.

What does their email show?

Focus on my other evidence.... They charged the customer... but never paid me..

I would ask you if you understand English, but judging by the manner in which you type the language . . . .

Again:

Sweetheart.. $222.615 was just for illustration purposes for one of your paid colleague dearbats...... Your IQ score may be just zero.

Following is the official email which a writer receives everytime a customer pays into escrow.. Look at the currency symbol honey.... what does it show you? Is it a $ sign or something else?


EssayBay Escrow Payment‏
From: admin@essaybay.com
Sent: Sat //09
To:

The Buyer (Omitted) has just placed £135 into an escrow account at EssayBay. The money has NOT yet been deposited into your account. This transaction can only be completed by the sender (), and only you can cancel it. The escrow system serves as proof that a money deposit has been made for you at EssayBay

Hey EW_writer !!! I have set a perfect platform for you to set score with WB and her pathetic colleagues...... Com'on... show them that they are cheat and fraud too....

Seriously . . . seriously . . . are you retarded?



Do you not grasp the simple concept that the customer pays in USD, despite the error in EB's email?

First of all, and contrary to your assumption, essaybay is not "one of my companies." As someone who worked as a writer there, however, I can easily discard your so-called evidence as ... .

1) we, as the writers, set the currency we are to be paid in just as the customer sets his/hers. Hence, if there is a difference between customer and writer currency preference, you will always find the one paying in a partcular currency and the other in a different one. For instance, my preference was pound sterling but I often had customers whose preference was US dollar. CURRENCY DISPARITIES IS NOT PROOF OF FRAUD.
2) the customer is the only one with the authority to release the escrow - this is what escrow is. Hence, it seems that the customer was a novice and did not know how to release the escrow payment.
3) essaybay cannot seize an escrow payment for itself - that is just how it works. They simply do not have the authority.
4) Yes - their customer service (I haven't written for them since Sept 2008, so that is the cut-off date for my first-hand knowledge) is really really bad

I had a customer who did not pay me. Gave me this whole rigmarole about how he would do so in 2 days, as he was awaiting money to put in his credit card. Meanwhile, he needed the paper in 24 hrs. As I had worked with him before, I took the risk. He was dishonest but it was my fault not essaybay's ... I did not go around crying foul because it was my fault.

As to why the escrow was never released to you, I guess only Jennifer or Carly can tell you that.

For some completely inexplicable reason, perhaps the customer may not have been happy with its Shakespearean prose?

Actually, I am willing to bet that EW would take WB over you any day! Pls note that while he often banters with WB, he quite studiously ignores you.

EW - am I pathetic as IT claims? :(


Do you not understand how absolutely faulty your evidence is. You have WB defending EB against your accusations, just as you earlier had me defending AA/AK. Were you to read other posts you will see that this really never happens. Why do you think it happened here? Let me guess ... is it because there is a difference between baseless accusations/slander and accusations based on verifiable evidence?
Whatever do you base your belief that you destroyed us all in arguments on? When we choose not to respond, it is because your arguments are completely purile. We do get bored, you know ... If, however, you want to believe that we are running away because we have been defeated, that is your perogative. Live happily in your illusions ... no skin off anyone's back ...

Pls prove that customers have been cheated ... just name one time. You can't ... could it be 1) you have no evidence and, hence, are engaging in slander; 2) you know absolutely nothing about our "companies," and 3) as usual, you do not know what you are talking about.


Many have done that whn evidence of real fraud was put forward.

I do not give out my personal number, no. I do, however, give out the work one ... what's the big deal?!

Ok - this is getting really quite sick. First it was east and west, then it was master and slave! Is it now colour and race?! I really do not believe it at all appropriate to bring race and colour into this debate or, indeed, forum ... apart from its being irrelevant and quite insulting, it speaks of your assumption that all here are racists (not at all true) ... that only serves to establish how truly messed up you are!

No we can't. If you had ever been there you would know that what you are saying is ridiculous - "I am as reachable as a needle in a haystack!" What's your postal code? Lacrosse Avenue, what number ...?

I sincerely doubt that! It is a master of prose, or should I say slayer?

If this evidence is real, then it looks like essaybay is indeed cheating you. Of course, as others have prolifically pointed out, you can;t really prove the validity of the emails. I am also inclined to agree that the mistake was in the symbol used, not in the actual amount of money.

As for taking the customer's money and not paying you, that is definitely wrong...if it happened. You should probably stop working for them now (the customers will be better off, too). I never said--in fact, have REPEATEDLY TOLD YOU--that any company based in the US or UK was automatically legitimate. But when companies in these countries do things that are illegal or fraudulent, they can be taken to court. If you have a legitimate dispute with essaybay, sue them! You would be helping everyone that works for the company.

When companies in India, or the Ukraine, or Pakistan screw customers and/or writers over, there is no real recourse (except through chargebacks, etc). That, coupled with the fact that I have yet to find a reputable foreign site (not that they necessarily don't exist), are the reasons I recommend using US/Uk based services.


I'm very sorry I can;t spend my entire day dealing with your random accusations. I'm still waiting for proof that Darwin was a proponent of eugenics, by the way (from a different thread, for interested readers).


That's not fair. Even a chair has an IQ of around forty (it sits still and appears attentive throughout the test). I'm sure WB's got to be at least 45....points higher than you! Oh, damn! Burned!......


it's late. I'm a little punchy.

True. The fact that dismissal of chacha is something EW and WB actually agree on is a very telling point. Is it the End of Days, or something?

It would be doing the entire industry a favour! When something like that poses as a professional writer, on par with the real pros, it is insulting! or could it be

Wait... I'd just like to get the facts straight first. Your bid was accepted, you got the email indicating that the escrow payment was made, you did the work and sent it to the client, and then what happened?



I banter with the mathematically challenged coincidence (and tool) because she deserves it. I got nothing against anyone else. As for chacha, she is not much different from any other promoter on this board in terms of her intentions and I never said I wanted her banned. I even said in one occasion that while her writing skills are clearly substandard, she probably has successfully sold one paper or two. As for her calling you "pathetic", you don't need me to tell you that you're not. Plus, I hardly even know you enough to say one thing or another. :P