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Mar 25, 08, 02:52AM
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After considering the levels of fraud subjected to clients(students) and/or writers by illegitimate companies and, further, after considering the level of professionalism we exhibited despite the excruciating set backs emanating from these essay companies, we(former researchers) joined hands and decided to work directly with consumers. As such we have served about 32 clients since we decided to work independently. All of them are quite satisfied.
We only have one principal : You PAY US after we deliver 2/3 of your essay- thats our principal.
Please feel free to contact us at proffesionalresearchers2004@yahoo.com
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| Lavinia |
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Mar 25, 08, 05:02AM
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it's "principle" not "principal."
some other funny mistakes as well.
sigh, this board has become one big advertising site.
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| FrostatMidnight |
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Mar 25, 08, 05:29AM
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That is a forthright advertisement!!
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| martha79 |
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Mar 25, 08, 06:13AM
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hmmm
and look at there subject
how come the post reflect what they put in there title??
:O
its better to make another category with label Advertisement to let those services introduce themselves there..
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| FrostatMidnight |
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Mar 25, 08, 10:56AM
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Agreed. No harm.
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Mar 25, 08, 12:07PM
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That is exactly what I mean by an "ESL" writer. ITS spelling, grammar, and word use are all terrible. There are so many errors in that single paragraph that I simply do know know where to start, but I think the following text from its own EMAIL ADDRESS is particularly funny:
"proffesional"
Despite its painful lack of command of the English language, I'm willing to bet a few dollars that its Web site fraudulently lauds its "professional writing in English" or "native English writers."
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| Lavinia |
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Edited by: Lavinia Mar 25, 08, 05:20PM
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Maybe it's just a joke. The disastrous presentation IS funny.
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| EW_writer |
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Mar 25, 08, 09:54PM
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Quoting: WritersBeware That is exactly what I mean by an "ESL" writer. ITS spelling, grammar, and word use are all terrible.
There we go again with lambasting ESL writers in general for one distasteful post made by someone who might just as well be an EFL writer. >.<
Quoting: proffesional researchers You PAY US after we deliver 2/3 of your essay- thats our principal.
o.O; This system is ill-thought. A smart enough customer can easily finish the last third of the essay. I use a similar system for my humble number of direct clients but it's a lot more protective.
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| WritersBeware |
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Mar 25, 08, 10:22PM
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Quoting: EW_writer There we go again with lambasting ESL writers in general for one distasteful post made by someone who might just as well be an EFL writer. >.<
Sorry, but no EFL writer would type "join hands" or use any of the other examples of poor word choice in that paragraph.
Yet again, you misunderstand the clear point that I made in my previous post. I clearly pointed out that THAT person, in particular, exemplifies what I mean when I type "ESL writer." When I type "ESL writer," I am--quite obviously--NOT referring to the small minority of ESL writers in the industry whose skills actually justify writing for American clients. YOU can probably get away with it. The bottom line, however, is that probably 95% of the ESL writers in the industry have major flaws in their English language writing and should not complete orders for American clients without seeking consent from each client beforehand.
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Edited by: EW_writer Mar 26, 08, 12:22AM
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Quoting: WritersBeware Sorry, but no EFL writer would type "join hands" or use any of the other examples of poor word choice in that paragraph.
It's very assumptive for you to claim that just because a writer's first language is English, that automatically makes him/her superior in the use of the language and immune to committing mistakes. I'm sure that there are lame, amateurish EFL writers who are also prone to grammar mistakes yet are engaged in the same "profession" as most of us here. :)
Quoting: WritersBeware YOU can probably get away with it. The bottom line, however, is that probably 95% of the ESL writers in the industry have major flaws in their English language writing and should not complete orders for American clients without seeking consent from each client beforehand.
Tsk tsk.. there you go playing with your "general statistics" again. It's sad that although you claim to have so much proof on so many things, when it comes down to proving the things that really count in this discussion, you have nothing but your crappy "probably 95%". ;p Thank you for acknowledging that I can "get away" with writing for American clients. You make it sound like it's such a crime that I could. :P I say that the minority you speak of has as much right to engage in this "profession" as you in whatever manner we so choose for so long as we are able to deliver quality products for our clients.
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| WritersBeware |
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Mar 26, 08, 12:33AM
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Can you DISPROVE my estimate of 95%? Are you suggesting that my estimate is not even close to being accurate?
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Mar 26, 08, 02:56AM
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Hahaha.. what happened to your "I have proof!" motto? :P If we compare the number of competent EFL writers in the U.S. to the number of competent ESL writers in the rest of the world, only then we can answer that question. I'm not willing to do all that legwork for free so please, be my guest o' master of proof. :p
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Mar 26, 08, 12:26PM
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EXACTLY--hahahahah! There's a HUGE difference between me making an EDUCATED GUESS (bases on my thorough knowledge of the industry) about this particular matter, and YOU making completely ignorant and utterly false accusations about me and others.
AGAIN, do you claim that my estimate of 95% is completely inaccurate? If so, what would YOU estimate the percentage to be--10%, 40%, 70%?
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Mar 26, 08, 08:34PM
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I say that if you compare the number of educated Americans capable of writing good material in English to the number of educated non-Americans who are able to do the same thing, the fact that the rest of the world still far outnumbers the U.S. and the fact that the number of Americans who actually get to finish college is relatively smaller compared to its population leads more towards an "educated guess" that being ESL or EFL has little to do with being able to write well in English.
If we consider educated non-Americans who come from Malaysia, China, the Philippines, Indonesia, Singapore and other Asian countries, we are factoring in a huge number of competent writers who study or teach at prestigious universities devoted to academic research. The existence of these people makes your 95% more prejudiced than "educated". ^_^
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Edited by: WritersBeware Mar 26, 08, 08:49PM
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Clearly, you are arguing over some sort of "intelligence factor." I am not. Uneducated, unqualified people inhabit every nation. Stupidity isn't race- or country-specific. At no time have I EVER suggested that ESL writers are generally less intelligent than EFL writers. That would be a prejudiced assertion. What I specifically contend is that the vast majority of even the most intelligent, ESL writers in the ESSAY-WRITING INDUSTRY transfer to paper their otherwise acceptable and often brilliant ideas via a substantially flawed combination of terminology, word choice, expressions, spelling, grammar, punctuation, etc. that simply is not acceptable to American clients. One can be the Einstein of Pakistan, but if that person cannot type a decent sentence in the English language, he or she is simply a crook if he or she claims to be a "native English writer" or a "professional writer" for a Web site that serves American clients. An American client should not have to re-write the CUSTOM PAPER for which he or she paid just to be able to interpret and absorb the concepts.
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| ritzcrackers |
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Mar 26, 08, 10:24PM
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I can only speak for myself, and all i can say is that the person that wrote my paper had no business writing an essay in english. There were grammatical errors in every sentence. The friggin essay didn't even make sense.
I asked for revisions, never got the revisions. (so still waiting for my final essay) In the end I wrote the ten page essay myself and I used not one paragraph from the essay essaywritingservice.com provided me.
So EW-Writer, the majority of writers have no business writing for north american clients.
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Mar 27, 08, 02:43AM
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Quoting: ritzcrackers So EW-Writer, the majority of writers have no business writing for north american clients.
By that do you mean the majority of non-North American writers have no business writing for North American clients? I understand your experience and needless to say, there are a lot of mooks out there who can't write but do so anyway. Still, my point is that you could have gotten just as bad a deal by having an incompetent North American write your essay. Why for all you know, the writer that you got could have been North American. All I'm saying is that America absolutely does not have a monopoly of brilliant writers in the English language.
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| jaspreet |
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Mar 31, 08, 09:50PM
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I would go with EW_writer in saying that do not exaggerate on the all ESL writers are poor at English. But i admit that certain percentage is. However, "writersbeware" aren't we deviating from the purpose for which we are here?
I am a writer and betrayed one.
Writersbeware, you tell what was your reaction at first when you got to know the companies that fraud. What did you do afterwards (as a writer)/
And can you guide about some reliable source of income on the internet (although its a far cry i guess)
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| jenaquinox |
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Mar 31, 08, 11:02PM
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Forgive me for jumping in too late. But I need some clarification regarding uvocorp.com - is this site fraudulent or legit?
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| EW_writer |
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Edited by: EW_writer Apr 1, 08, 10:41AM
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OMG!!! Hahahahaha! Somebody erased a string of posts from me, ritzcracker, and WritersBeware! :D (Or am I just in the wrong thread? o.O) We were talking about how WritersBeware calls students who turn in papers that they buy, cheaters. Then there was a discussion about how genuine American companies would NEVER sell papers for students to submit as is. Then I asked ritzcracker if he would ever buy an essay from a company that tells him he can't turn it in to which he answered no he wouldn't.
Are the posts really gone, or am I just in the wrong thread? Sure feels like the Twilight Zone. :p
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| Lavinia |
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Edited by: Lavinia Apr 1, 08, 02:28PM
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EW_writer: Somebody erased a string of posts from me, ritzcracker, and WritersBeware! :D (Or am I just in the wrong thread? o.O)
EW, you're losing it heh.
That threat is still on the board. It's titled "EssayWritingService.com."
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Apr 1, 08, 05:50PM
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Oh.. sorry. >.< Like I said, I could have been just in the wrong thread. My bad. :p
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