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Mar 17, 08, 04:07AM
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As a former insider in the convoluted 'industry' that is the essay market, I find it morally right to inform students about the levels of fraud perpetrated by the obvious scammers and the 'genuine' registered 'companies' .
Even though I live in south Africa and English is not my first language and, further, I didn't perform well at the university, I did apply for a position of researcher with two UK essay companies and was promptly recruited after sending them a bunch of scanned but altered certificates. I bid for several jobs and finally got a brief in history even though I studied chemistry. I worked on the order and others were to follow(about 10) .
What I discovered about these two companies was that even though they were located in the UK and were appropriately registered , they didn't -for cost cutting reasons- hesitate to 'outsource' writers from developing markets, who obviously had to bear a little slice off their cut. For instance, in one case, a UK based writer was commissioned to write a law essay @ 205 pounds but for some reason , he wasn't interested and I took the offer and was paid only 80 pounds!!!
My point is: it doesn't matter whether a company is based inside white house or along downing street- these capitalists will not hesitate to hire a ESL writer from Ukraine to reduce their operational costs. Same with other multinationals
Eventually my conscience couldn't allow me to continue working in this industry ; I pulled out and I am now working with a 'respectable' chemical firm in Jo' .
I therefore find it sheer hypocrisy for 'genuine' companies to stigmatize foreign 'companies' yet the former , too, outsource from developing markets, effectively making slaves out of these desperate writes – hey!!! I am not about to drop a sales pitch but my parting shot is: the essay companies are out to make a kill, not to help any student, and they wont wink at an opportunity to slash their costs- even if the client gets a hyped piece of trash after spending a fortune with either a 'genuine ' company or a Pakistan fraud .
To get a decent paper from the 'companies' is simply a matter of luck.
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Mar 17, 08, 04:20AM
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Quoting: former writer My point is: it doesn't matter whether a company is based inside white house or along downing street- these capitalists will not hesitate to hire a ESL writer from Ukraine to reduce their operational costs.
Quite frankly, that claim is ridiculous.
Do you think that your limited experience with two companies in the UK entitles you to make baseless accusations against all companies in the United States? Unless you have evidence to PROVE your accusations (which you surely do not), I suggest that you retract your statements and/or request that the moderator delete this thread.
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| former writer |
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Mar 17, 08, 04:31AM
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Have you ever heard something called sampling???
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Edited by: WritersBeware Mar 17, 08, 04:32AM
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I'd like to add that hiring ESL writers does NOT make a company fraudulent or "not genuine." What makes a company fraudulent is hiring ESL writers (because they almost always work for cheaper wages), and then stating on its Web sites that "all writers are native English-speakers from America, Canada, and the UK" (or similar). Visit the home page of Ukrainian SuperiorPapers.com or Ukrainian BestEssays.com to see a perfect example of this type of blatant misrepresentation for profit.
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Mar 17, 08, 04:39AM
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Why then would a UK registered company claim all writers are Native English speakers from within UK and knowingly proceed to hire a writer(myself) who: a) is not a Native Eng-spr and b) is outside of UK? . Or this is OK for 'genuine' UK companies?
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Mar 17, 08, 04:51AM
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Quoting: WritersBeware What makes a company fraudulent is hiring ESL writers (because they almost always work for cheaper wages), and then stating on its Web sites that "all writers are native English-speakers from America, Canada, and the UK" (or similar). |
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Mar 17, 08, 04:55AM
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it seems you are so desperate defending American companies- which, in effect, means you are just a tentacle off those companies trying a clever sales pitch under the guise of exposing fraudsters . Quite a jump but i wont be fobbed off by your cyclic replies that contain neither fact nor substance
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Mar 17, 08, 01:50PM
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LOL. You're a mess. I suggest that you brush up on your comprehension skills in the English language, as you have clearly missed the entire point of my responses. PLEASE tell me that you didn't/don't write for American clients.
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Mar 26, 08, 06:54AM
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Quoting: WritersBeware PLEASE tell me that you didn't/don't write for American clients.
LOL. i own a website : f****dupessays.com and we hire PHDS with 25 years experience and pay them $5 per page .
Please to contact us, email me at plagiarizedessays@ f****dupessays.com for a quote.
FYI, why would i be willing to write for lazy & fat American students
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Mar 26, 08, 07:02AM
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Quoting: WritersBeware You're a mess. I suggest that you brush up on your comprehension skills in the English language, as you have clearly missed the entire point of my responses
i am not aspiring to be a shakespeare or something- fyi, i am fluent in 6 languages(spanish, french german, kiswahili(ever heard of it), chinese and, English so i need not muster any of them to be at per with your 'excellent' command(LOL)
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Mar 26, 08, 12:44PM
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Do you hear that? Listen. Even the crickets think that you are a moron.
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Mar 27, 08, 04:42PM
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Quoting: former writer i am not aspiring to be a shakespeare or something- fyi, i am fluent in 6 languages(spanish, french german, kiswahili(ever heard of it), chinese and, English so i need not muster any of them to be at per with your 'excellent' command(LOL)
If you are fluent in 6 languages, I can tell you aren't American. Most Americans only know two languages: English and bad English. ;)
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Edited by: WritersBeware Mar 27, 08, 05:02PM
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Quoting: corvus If you are fluent in 6 languages, I can tell you aren't American. Most Americans only know two languages: English and bad English. ;)
Corvus, jealously is ugly.
Tell me--what sh*thole do YOU call home?
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Mar 27, 08, 07:53PM
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Quoting: WritersBeware Corvus, jealously is ugly. Tell me--what sh*thole do YOU call home?
What am I jealous of?
And without knowing a single thing about me, are you calling my country of origin a shithole?
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Mar 27, 08, 11:13PM
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Quoting: corvus What am I jealous of? And without knowing a single thing about me, are you calling my country of origin a shithole?
If you don't want to be insulted, don't insult.
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Mar 28, 08, 02:07AM
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Hey former, you ignored my question on the other thread but maybe you'll answer here. What American companies hire non-EFL writers?
See, I tend to think that your logic is flawed. I'm an EFL writer and I command a lot of money per page to write anything. I make 3-5X what ESL writers are asking. If the company wanted to save money, I'm sure I'd be the first to be let go. But I'm still inexplicably working. Hm...
Hey WB, how many languages are you packing? I'm guessing at least three. The PhD in English pretty much requires it.
Me, I max out at 4, but then one is Old English, which technically isn't spoken anymore so folks may not want to count it. I guess I could feel inferior but I tend to figure that my additional degree in a hard science is the equivalent of at least one language. Oh, do computer languages count? Then I'm easily hitting 6. Not bad for an American.
So Corvus, how many languages do you speak?
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