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Has anyone used essaywritingservice.com . I just used them for a paper. I have not got the paper back yet. The paper came with numerous spelling mistakes, etc. I did change about every other word in case they plagiarized. please let me hear your comments.
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Dec 3, 07, 08:11AM
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i need a job
To admin,
i like to have job in writing and editing
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| WritersBeware |
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Dec 3, 07, 02:05PM
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Quoting: saideep i like to have job in writing and editing
LOL
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Dec 4, 07, 09:43PM
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Dont apply to 1stclassprojects. He wont wont pay u
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Dec 5, 07, 02:29AM
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is www.essaywriters.net reliable source for online paper work job? I had read most of the comments and they are all telling that this site is not paying any in terms of their hardwork? is it there are contact nos. for that costumer queries. I am just a beginner on this kind of work. I will attest to whatever outcome in that payment issue. My first payment will be on dec. 15 and on january 1, 2008 as commensurate to their standard.
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| Lavinia |
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Dec 5, 07, 02:58AM
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ok, i'm probably the last person to criticize the writing style of others since my lack of proper capitalization rankles some but...
jassrosy i have no idea what you are trying to say lol.
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Edited by: ritzcrackers Mar 19, 08, 08:55AM
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About two weeks ago, I ordered a paper from them. It was suppose to arrive within a week. When the week was up, no paper, so I emailed support. A woman responded saying the paper would be sent within the next 6 to 8 hours, cool right.... wrong. The next day still no paper. On the following day I wrote again. I got a messae back saying sorry for the delay, it's going to be another 4 to 8 hours and that I would get a break on my next essay. It is now 4 days after the due date of my paper. I have yet to receive it and since that second email I have not heard anything back from the company. I have tried calling as well and there is just a really crappy message saying nobody is available to take your call at this time. If you are wise you will not use this service. I guess I'm going to see if my credit card company can do anything for me. Anybody have this kind of experience with them?
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Mar 19, 08, 08:56AM
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Sorry in case I didn't say the service was essaywritingservice.com
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Mar 19, 08, 10:20AM
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Quoting: shah57 Dont apply to 1stclassprojects. He wont wont pay u
I agree. Please do not go near Peter Richardson, 1stclassprojects or whatever other names he possesses.
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Edited by: ritzcrackers Mar 19, 08, 10:27AM
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Yeah I feel soo stupid. I was just so stressed for time and it sounded soo good. I guess it's true what they say. If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. I'm now writing the essay myself.
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Mar 26, 08, 09:34PM
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****DON'T USE ESSAYWRITINGSERVICE.COM****
I ordered an essay paid $100, for it be completed in 4 days. It has now been 2 weeks, no essay, and no refund. Not only did I pay $100, but I had to do the essay myself anyway.......This company is a complete scam. Learn by my mistake!!!
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Edited by: ritzcrackers Mar 26, 08, 10:01PM
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Hi Lewy,
Okay so this is what happened to me. I ordered an essay, it took almost two weeks for me to get the essay, after I continuously harassed them because I paid for a one week delivery. Anyway, the good news is I called my credit card company to file a complaint and they were going to investigate. Don't forget that you are paying for a service, when you are not provided that service, the credit card company will investigage.
Anyway, the next day I received the essay. It was the crappiest esay I had every read. First of all it was even written in proper english. Obviously the people they have writing these essays, don't even speak english. Second I gave them a list of topics that this essay needed to cover and this person, did not cover any of those points, which leads me to believe this essay was not written for me.
I wrote back to the writing service right away and complained about how crappy the essay was. They told me that they would send it back to the writer with my remarks and would have them redo it. You're entitled to one revision and that revision is suppose to come within 12 to 14 hours. That was a week ago, I have yet to receive it. What I did receive was an email today from the site telling me that they were very sorry for the delay and that the writer promised the essay to her within the next four hours.
I wish I had a happy ending for you, well I guess I sort of do. I learnt a valuable lesson, do no use ESSAYWRITINGSERVICE.COM, write your own essay. My essay was due yesterday evening, so what did I do? I spent Easter weekend writing the essay all by myself. I paid for a ten page essay, and get this, I didn not use one paragraph from the essay this service provided for me, that is how bad that essay was. I'll let you know the grade I got.
When I got Janet Hughes' message, saying that she was sorry for the delay and the esay was to arrive within the four hours, I wrote back that the essay was due yesterday, that I wrote it myself, but that I still insisted the writer send me the revised essay, since I had paid for it.
I told her that if I do not receive the essay, I would proceed with my clain through my credit card company. I might not get my money back, but I am going to do everything in my power to make sure that this site does not screw/scam anyone else.
Good Luck, let me know how it goes.
What are you writing on? Maybe if you post your topic, a sympathetic person might help you out and give you some great ideas.
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Mar 26, 08, 10:10PM
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Lewy, please call your credit card company. file a complaint against them at least.
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Mar 26, 08, 10:56PM
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Thanks for the support. Goodness, your story sounds just like mine. Janet Hughes, Nancy Smith etc, when I think about it, those names scream 'scammer'. I have been told that I can expect a refund (after about 10 emails) 'shortly'. I am not going to hold my breath! First time ever, that I have been tempted to pay for an essay. NEVER AGAIN. One thing I am worried about, is these people have my details?
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Edited by: WritersBeware Mar 27, 08, 12:00AM
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Quoting: Lewy First time ever, that I have been tempted to pay for an essay. NEVER AGAIN.
If you choose a fraudulent company, of course you will get scammed.
Hey, EW_writer, this is a perfect example of how foreign rip-off sites harm the American research industry. Customers mistakenly blame American companies for the crimes of their dishonest, foreign counterparts.
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Mar 27, 08, 12:49AM
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Quoting: WritersBeware Hey, EW_writer, this is a perfect example of how foreign rip-off sites harm the American research industry. Customers mistakenly blame American companies for the crimes of their dishonest, foreign counterparts.
o.O But if you claim that your American companies won't let these two consumers use the essays that they buy and submit them as is, do you think they'd still buy from you? >.<
Lewy and ritz, would you buy from American companies if they tell you that you can't submit the papers that you buy from them and that you actually have to cite them in your references if you choose to use parts of what you buy?
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Edited by: WritersBeware Mar 27, 08, 01:41AM
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Quoting: EW_writer Lewy and ritz, would you buy from American companies if they tell you that you can't submit the papers that you buy from them and that you actually have to cite them in your references if you choose to use parts of what you buy?
Dude, you're all over the place right now! All American companies openly state that customers may NOT turn in the papers for credit! Also, you DO realize that American companies will TURN DOWN any customer who asks if he or she can TURN IN a commissioned paper, right? Go ahead--email such a question to ANY one of the well-known, American companies and post the response in this forum.
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Edited by: Lavinia Mar 27, 08, 01:52AM
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Wb is right. The American companies I've worked for do tell customers that they can't turn in the papers for a grade, both on their website, on the phone and via email. Encouraging a customer to cheat with the paper would jeopardize the future of the company.
And orders are coming in just fine so customers must not mind.
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Mar 27, 08, 02:33AM
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Quoting: Lavinia Wb is right. The American companies I've worked for do tell customers that they can't turn in the papers for a grade, both on their website, on the phone and via email. Encouraging a customer to cheat with the paper would jeopardize the future of the company.
All fine and good but that's not my point. The thing is, these two "customers" obviously meant to submit the papers that they bought.
Quoting: Lewy I ordered an essay paid $100, for it be completed in 4 days. It has now been 2 weeks, no essay, and no refund. Not only did I pay $100, but I had to do the essay myself anyway.......
So if you think about it, they wouldn't really buy from the companies that you work for, Lavinia. That's because like you said, your employers don't allow "cheating". If that's the case, then American companies aren't really losing customers to us non-American writers simply because we cater to different types of clients. You cater to kids who just want essay guides while I cater to ones that want completely written assignments.
Hmmm... so maybe there isn't a need for all this squabbling after all. Friends? ^___^
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Mar 27, 08, 08:30AM
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Essaywritingservice.com is based in America. I looked up their domain information and they are based in America.
They are an American company, but they use foreign writers. The person that wrote my essay, was not english speaking.
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Mar 27, 08, 08:34AM
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Absolutely not. The whole point of paying for this paper is the fact that they are supposed to be writing a custom paper for me. (At least this is what they all advertise) If I have to reference it, it's like telling my prof that I took someone else's essay and made it my own.
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Mar 27, 08, 09:04AM
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Hi ritz, I assume that your answer above was for the question I'm quoting below:
Quoting: EW_writer Lewy and ritz, would you buy from American companies if they tell you that you can't submit the papers that you buy from them and that you actually have to cite them in your references if you choose to use parts of what you buy?
What do you have to say to this?
Quoting: WritersBeware All American companies openly state that customers may NOT turn in the papers for credit! Also, you DO realize that American companies will TURN DOWN any customer who asks if he or she can TURN IN a commissioned paper
and more importantly... this:
Quoting: WritersBeware If a student turns in a paper that he or she commissioned from a fraudulent site in Ukraine, like BestEssays.com, the student is NOT committing a crime. The student is committing plagiarism and "academic fraud," punishable by a failing grade, loss of scholarship, and/or expulsion. |
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Mar 27, 08, 10:06AM
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i need a job in this forum.
arun
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Mar 27, 08, 10:26AM
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Hi EW, yes I was responding to your question. I guess I replied to the wrong thread.
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Mar 27, 08, 11:19AM
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Quoting: ritzcrackers Hi EW, yes I was responding to your question. I guess I replied to the wrong thread.
Nope, it's the right thread. I posed the question in the previous page. ^_^
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Edited by: WritersBeware Mar 27, 08, 01:01PM
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Quoting: EW_writer American companies aren't really losing customers to us non-American writers simply because we cater to different types of clients.
WRONG. Your fraudulent employers LIE to customers by falsely claiming to be AMERICAN and BRITISH, which fools American and British customers into ordering simply because the price is lower (made possible due to the fact that foreign sites pay ESL writers MUCH lower wages).
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Mar 27, 08, 01:26PM
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Quoting: ritzcrackers Essaywritingservice.com is based in America. I looked up their domain information and they are based in America. They are an American company, but they use foreign writers. The person that wrote my essay, was not english speaking.
How do you know they're an American company? They don't claim to be on their site. They also don't claim to only hire American or EFL writers. The low page prices are pretty much a dead giveaway that this site doesn't employ EFL writers. We can't survive economically on 4$-6$ per page.
It seems that you went to a cheap site, gambled and lost. You really don't have anyone to blame but yourself.
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Mar 27, 08, 02:25PM
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EssayWritingService.com is absolutely NOT an American company. It is based in SPAIN:
Registrant:
Alex Mail
Jaorrie 72
Cordoba 35221
Spain
Domain Name: ESSAYWRITINGSERVICE.COM
Created on: 07-Feb-04
Expires on: 07-Feb-09
Last Updated on: 26-Dec-07
Administrative Contact:
Mail, Alex
Jaorrie 72
Cordoba 35221
Spain
33024392
http://whois.domaintools.com/essaywritingservice.com
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Mar 27, 08, 06:54PM
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Quoting: WritersBeware WRONG. Your fraudulent employers LIE to customers by falsely claiming to be AMERICAN and BRITISH, which fools American and British customers into ordering simply because the price is lower (made possible due to the fact that foreign sites pay ESL writers MUCH lower wages).
It's almost annoying how you seem to be so utterly stupid. XD Sorry, but there's just no other word for it in this particular case. Read the context of my post again to see what I meant. ^_^
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Edited by: WritersBeware Mar 27, 08, 11:01PM
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Quoting: EW_writer It's almost annoying how you seem to be so utterly stupid. XD Sorry, but there's just no other word for it in this particular case. Read the context of my post again to see what I meant. ^_^
It is YOU who is the freakin' MORON! Here's your quote:
Quoting: EW_writer American companies aren't really losing customers to us non-American writers simply because we cater to different types of clients.
You are claiming that you ONLY receive orders from students who openly plan to cheat. What in the bloody hell does THAT have to do with the vast majority of your American customers who choose your site based on the fact that you intentionally fool them into believing that you are American?
Let's set aside--just for a second--the average, American customer's inherent expectation that an AMERICAN writer will be completing his or her project, thereby avoiding the need to correct an ESL writer's plethora of mistakes. Now, what do you say to the thousands of American consumers every month who simply wish to keep their money on American soil, but you ROB them of that right? What do you say to American clients who do not believe in outsourcing because it hurts the American laborer, yet you FOOL into violating their own principles because you LIE to them about being AMERICAN?
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Mar 27, 08, 11:12PM
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Beware, you're right, I didn't realize there was more information on the website. I just read the top of the page where it mentions the IP location is the United States, my bad.
Extended Info IP Address: 64.29.18.202
IP Location: United States
Website Status: active
Server Type: Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) (Red-Hat/Linux) mod_watch/2.0 mod_throttle/3.1.2 mod_gzip/1.3.19.1a mod_auth_pam/1.0a mod_ssl/2.8.11 OpenSSL/0.9.6j PHP/4.2.2 mod_perl/1.25
Alexa Trend/Rank: 3 Month: 6,215,596
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Cache Date: 2008-03-27 22:06:35 MST
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Mar 27, 08, 11:17PM
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Okay, the American websites don't encourage you to hand in an essay they write for you because they don't want to get in trouble. But does that then mean that their essays are just picked out from a bank of essays they have or is the essay custom written for you.
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Mar 27, 08, 11:24PM
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Quoting: ritzcrackers Okay, the American websites don't encourage you to hand in an essay they write for you because they don't want to get in trouble. But does that then mean that their essays are just picked out from a bank of essays they have or is the essay custom written for you.
It's not just a matter of "they don't want to get in trouble." American companies in the industry actually have some basic standards and a sense of morality, both of which are utterly lacking in EVERY foreign (Ukrainian, Pakistani, Filipino, etc.) company that I have EVER investigated.
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Edited by: ritzcrackers Mar 27, 08, 11:40PM
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Okay Beware,
I get it, but you didn't answer my question, are the essays cutom written or they taken from a bank of essays? See if I'm aware that the essay i'm getting is from a bank of essays, it's cool. I'd expect it to be cheaper and just use it as a good starting point.
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Edited by: ritzcrackers Mar 27, 08, 11:44PM
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By the way i just wanted to let you all know that essaywritingservice.com wrote back to me today and apologized. They said that they were prepared to give me back my money. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
I'm not saying that they are a reputable company, I mean I never did get a good essay from them, but they are willing to give me back my money.
I'll keep you all posted.
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Mar 27, 08, 11:54PM
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Quoting: ritzcrackers Okay Beware, I get it, but you didn't answer my question, are the essay's cutom written or they taken from a bank of essays? See if I'm aware that the essay i'm getting is from a bank of essays, it's cool. I'd expect it to be cheaper and just use it as a good starting point.
Some American sites offer database access for a monthly fee, which is the absolute worst option a student can choose because the papers have been used and abused, often for many years by many different sites. Those sites accept student submissions and re-sell them (including all of the unedited submissions from ESL students).
Some American sites offer a searchable index of individually-priced papers.
Some American sites offer custom research services. You order it, and they write it.
Each company is different, and services may vary.
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Mar 28, 08, 12:03AM
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Okay got it. Thanks Beware, I'm new to all this. I normally write my own essays, but I was just so pressed for time. Ultimately I blame myself because I didn't do my research before submitting my request to this site.
I didn't realize how big this essaywriting business was.
Thanks again,
Ritz
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Edited by: julie24963 Mar 28, 08, 12:46AM
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hi all
not posted for a while but see the same arguments are still raging
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Mar 28, 08, 01:00AM
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Quoting: Lavinia Wb is right. The American companies I've worked for do tell customers that they can't turn in the papers for a grade, both on their website, on the phone and via email. Encouraging a customer to cheat with the paper would jeopardize the future of the company.
English companies do this as well (so my research informs me) However, unless the company is going to make their work available to all universities in their locality there is only limited ways in which the university might realise that this is not the students own work if they decide to submit it as their own despite the warning.
Do you consider that because a warning was given that the company should be absolved of liability if the student ignores this and submits the work as their own or shouldn't the company have a moral obligation and legal obligation to make their work available to the universities to ensure a student cannot submit the essay in this way?
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Edited by: Lavinia Mar 28, 08, 01:56AM
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I think it is very difficult to impose a legal liability upon a company that furnishes a product that is then misused by the consumer against the explicit wishes of the company. I think we can both imagine the regulatory nightmare that would result if the government attempted to step in to impose penalties upon every business that provides a product that could be misused by the consumer. Such a standard of liability would cripple a great many industries beyond this one.
I'm a libertarian, so I'm not much of a fan of a nanny state. I would need you to explain to me a bit better what you mean by a "legal obligation to make their work available to the universities to ensure a student cannot submit the essay." It seems to me that the government should not be in the business of penalizing an industry because its product might be misused by a relatively low percentage of its consumers. In your research, have you found a percentage estimate of the number of students who buy essays and turn them in as their own? When I did the research on those figures, the numbers looked to be 2-3% of consumers. That hardly seems like a sufficient reason for legal intervention.
I also tend to shy away from the term "moral obligation." That seems like a phrase that should be used for significant and important occasions, lest the significance of the phrase be diminished. You know, like acts of genocide or the abuse of human rights, not the risk of some college kids turning in a paper that they didn't write themselves. The wider issue of plagiarism (in all its forms) is certainly an important challenge for educators but its solution is hardly tantamount to a moral imperative.
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