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Jan 22, 07, 09:19PM
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onerdrfl and amy1978, i apologize for the mix-up.
anyway, you got my point. i just feel lucky i got my payment when others here still haven't. i don't feel like hitting hard this moment.
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Jan 23, 07, 07:03AM
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That's human nature, Essayer. They owed you that money that you honestly did not know if you would ever see, and now you feel a sort of gratitude to them for having paid late the stipend that was rightfully due you, and without any interest or penalty. They count on and prey upon that kind of emotion to soften you so you will hopefully let others see that they are not so bad after all.
If someone came and beat you with a stick would you smile and thank them when they stopped, Essayer?
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Jan 23, 07, 09:50AM
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of course not onedrfl. i'll just take my rest, muster my strength, and kick him back.
but i would hope to encourage him to stop beating others here.
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Jan 25, 07, 03:24PM
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just recieved my payments! i still can't believe my eyez
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Jan 25, 07, 06:35PM
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See? Most of the people here got already their salaries at essaywriters... Even my sister-in-law got hers and my 2 friends were able to received theirs too.
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Edited by: Amy1978 Jan 25, 07, 06:51PM
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Esther, we all know you work for EssayWriters.net and BestEssays.com, so just STFU already. You're probably the owner/employee who finally issued the months-late payments because your bogus company's crappy reputation as a fraudulent scam from Ukraine is nearly set-in-stone.
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Edited by: onedrfl Jan 25, 07, 08:01PM
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The people at EssayWriters are the only ones that call the money salaries!
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Jan 25, 07, 08:25PM
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Good point, onedrfl. Writers do not use that terminology!
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Edited by: onedrfl Jan 25, 07, 09:24PM
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Yours was right on the "salary" too, Amy!
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Edited by: essayer Jan 25, 07, 10:16PM
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Quoting: esther, Post #245 See? Most of the people here got already their salaries at essaywriters... Even my sister-in-law got hers and my 2 friends were able to received theirs too.
everyone should.
akash, jaebaeli and, i think, devangini and fanaticalteacher to go.
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Edited by: Akash Jan 25, 07, 11:32PM
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Friends,
They gave me my "salary" at last !! LOL, it looked meagre than a dole! They paid $205, out of 551, and ran their "Hobson's choice" calculations (plagiarism, you know!) over the rest and wait! They tried to put up their best on my leftover scorecard as $177, which I see has fallen in their payment schedule of April.. What to say, it seems they themselves have trouble to make both ends meet. I've reached this conclusion after judging their tendencies...
Why don't they ask us about how to make money in a free and fair way? LOL
To Esther:
I see you're back again! Anyway, you can't, I repeat, can't prove your point on the fairness of this essaywriters.net. We're not fools. They're a bundle of inept amateurs, who commit blunders amidst public while keeping their eyes closed.
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Edited by: Akash Jan 25, 07, 11:39PM
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Onedr, Essayer and other guys,
Thanks for your concern and sympathy over fellow writers. This forum serves as a real window to provide vent to our pent-ups.
I read here someone is willing to open a writers forum out of fondness that grew among us. That's a good idea and we can work on it. Moreover, we can look forward towards earning through that.. what do you say? Wouldn't that be a good idea?
Love
Akash
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Jan 26, 07, 01:21AM
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great news akash and pineapple.
akash, at least you have something to look forward to. if they're still alive by april, that is.........
how about fanaticalteacher and especially devangini? based on the earlier postings of this thread, the latter hasn't visited us in a while. i'm just interested whether he has already been paid or whether he has completely given up hope of ever seeing his due earnings.
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Jan 26, 07, 04:52AM
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Great idea, Akash!
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Edited by: lexmark Jan 27, 07, 11:57PM
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I was fired from the site for supposed plagiarism as well, I never use another person's work in any of my papers. I write them from scratch. Below is a copy of a message I got from essaywriters.net. Yeah I really put the client in despair, the client complained to no end and ended up with a free paper I think, at my expense. The paper I did was a revision paper, that someone else had previously tried to write. So, I ended up getting the full blame for the paper being horrible because the previous writer did such a lousy job on it. All I was trying to do was be a nice guy. Essaywriters wouldn't know plagiarism if it hit them in the face. Hope this paper mill is shut down for being so lame. There is alot of truth in the saying "Good guys finish last".
[Support] [Writer] January 26 19:14 Dear writer
Unfortunately we had to suspend you from taking orders within our company.
You placed the client in the situation of despair and it took us a lot of time and effort to agree to continue cooperation with us. The policy of the company is one for everybody and the employees are to strictly adhere to it. We are no longer interested in your services.
Best regards,
Jessica
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Jan 28, 07, 02:14AM
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That is sick. The major problem with them is they don't understand what the writer is trying to tell them. They see what they want to see. You're lucky if you get your payments, and if you don't, you just cannot complain.
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Jan 28, 07, 08:38AM
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typical crap!
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Edited by: lexmark Jan 28, 07, 10:09AM
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When I use to write for essaywriters, I noticed many clients saying that other writers who did papers for them, caused them to turn in a failing paper. I wonder if those people were dealt with? After all, it looks bad if you have a bunch of illiterates working for your company. Not one person I wrote for ever turned in a failing paper, I did papers on computer science and criminal justice mainly. I wrote for tons of foreign students on computer science. The best way to learn it, is to do it yourself. I program Cisco routers, and the curriculum demands us to program them and setup networks because thats how a person learns by doing hands on. Like someone said, they will get MY job because I helped them cheat for that PH.D or Masters degree. I wonder if any of the clients were kicked out of college for cheating, after all if their english looks good on paper and yet they can't speak it very well, that sends up red flags like crazy.
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Jan 28, 07, 06:10PM
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Well I am an Information Technology and Engineering recruiter but I do not have the expertise to write technical papers and never took them. I know that all the papers I wrote were very good and I got extra money on several of them for high ratings.
You have at least 3 grammatical errors in the above text. It should say "when I used to write," should be a period after "failing paper," and "thats" should be a contraction for that is and should read that's.
I am sure your content was very good so as long as you didn't write any English papers you probably did well for their clients. The fact is, Essaywriters should have staff that can determine whether a paper is decent enough to submit, but they can barely write themselves. Many of the customers' English was so bad, evident in their written requests, that they would never be able to tell if the paper was good enough until they got the grade. I was often worried that if a paper that I submitted was much better than the customer's usual writing that the professor would certainly know that they didn't write it. This was not my problem, though, it was theirs.
I am just glad that they finally paid me and am happy to be rid of them.
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Edited by: lexmark Jan 28, 07, 09:13PM
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I was in a hurry when I typed that up this morning. I do agree with you on clients having poor english skills. I'm really surprised their professor didn't have a red flag go up. I know many foreign students and they write the way they speak. I was paid about $370 spanning from June of 2006 until November 2006, then thats when the plagiarism claims started popping up. I enjoy writing technical papers on computer networking, in depth analysis on hardware, software, and wireless technology. When ever I saw a paper or papers that dealt with computer science I grabbed them up.
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Jan 28, 07, 11:24PM
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Joined: Dec 28, 06
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speaking of high ratings onedrfl, i also got a few with the corresponding $1 dollar bonus per page. did you get level upgrades?
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Jan 29, 07, 06:52AM
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I didn't work for them for more than a month, but I do remember them sending me an email that I had a level upgrade emabling me to take multiple essays.
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Jan 29, 07, 10:45AM
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Joined: Jan 19, 07
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I’ve done several papers for them that were really good. I've received positive feedbacks and some bonuses. So far, I was not promoted. Is there anything to it or should I just call these guys and ask?
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Jan 29, 07, 10:55AM
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Quoting: Alisha, Post #221 Actually, I am a new writer for essaywriters.net. I signed up with them last month and now I am waiting for my dues. It's already delayed for 4 days,
This is the last we had heard from you, Alisha. I still think you work for them, especially since "feedbacks" is only a made up word that Essaywriters staff uses. The word "feedback" is both singular and plural.
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Jan 29, 07, 12:00PM
| #265 |
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I kinda hoped for another advice, I thought you guys would be fair. I used ‘feedbacks’ because they use it when giving bonuses to me.
I'm not on their staff, and even if I were what's the point for me to visit this forum? What I am doing is trying to find out what's best for me. I'm just a student that is fixing to obtain the Masters, I need some experience before I start actual work. I'm in freelancing not for that long and you guys seem really experienced, I need your advice, not your critics. I might have misspellings or other things that you guys are trying to highlight every time I address you, because I thought this chatting thing is informal and friendly-like, but I guess I was wrong. It seems like the main point of all of this is just to offend each other. I’m not working for essaywriters only. I'm up for writing for other sites also. I just wanted to participate in this discussion as you seem to know the negative side of them very well. They've been good to me that is why I'm trying to figure out whether it is worth my time to continue writing for them or not. Honestly, you offended me, you even tried to show me that I'm not welcome here and you are somehow better than I am. I'm your colleague that is just trying to get some advice but every time I try to either state something or suggest, I receive a mighty punch right into my stomach. Don't you guys think it’s a bit unfair?
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Jan 29, 07, 12:17PM
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Sorry, Alisha. I just find it difficult to believe that anyone could write for them after all they have read here. It almost seems like the person is just looking for trouble. I didn't mean to offend you or hurt you. I really am sorry.
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Jan 29, 07, 11:00PM
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if you ask me, i'm "more" certain of "esther" being an essaywriters' liaison. maybe alisha's the type to give people or entities the benefit of the doubt.
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Jan 30, 07, 12:53AM
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Quoting: Alisha, Post #263 I've done several papers for them that were really good. I've received positive feedbacks and some bonuses. So far, I was not promoted. Is there anything to it or should I just call these guys and ask?
i got 2 level upgrades: the 1st enabled me to take on multiple essays while the 2nd practically served no purpose because while it was supposed to lead to higher-priced orders, my window reflected the same minimum of $4. the upgrades were based, at least in part, on VS survery ratings.
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Jan 31, 07, 12:36PM
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Joined: Jan 31, 07
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Wow. I'm surprised that my thread lasted this long.
Guess what? I have some proof for all of you to see how scandalous essaywriters.net is. I went back after I posted my complaint to investigate ..
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Customer] [Writers] January 27 17:55 You can find the MLK`s letter at:
http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/letter.html
You can find the MLK's speech at
http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/democrac/38.htm
For previous assignments, I had to read the speech and the letter and had to write response paper for those. And, this paper you write is the essay that I have to write my thought after I read both MLK's speech and the letter. So I don't need any sources. I uploaded the response paper so you can read it to get some idea for this paper.
Thanks
[Customer] [Writer] January 29 3:20 Dear writer ,
Could you please finish this paper a day earlier than the deadline? My professor just changed the deadline. It now is due on Tuesday 8pm. Please let me know what I need to do
Thank you!
reply me asap!
[Customer] [Writer] January 29 14:09 Did you check my message?
Please reply me asap!:)
Thank you
[Writer] [Customer] January 29 15:44 Your paper will be finished before the deadline.
[Customer] [Writer] January 29 17:23 alright thank you for your reply.
What will be the exact time the paper will be done? I need it by tomorrow 8pm. you have like one day and 6 hrs from now. Do you think I can have my paper between this time?
Thank you
[Customer] [Writer] January 30 15:19 Dear writer,
Can this paepr be done within 8 hrs from now?
I need to turn this in really soon.
Please reply me asap!
[Customer] [Writer] January 31 0:40 Please send me the paper right now. it is ok because it is for rough draft!
so please just send me right now!
I told you I need it by 8pm! it is 10pm almost!
just send me!!!
[Support] [Writer] January 31 0:56 Dear !
I am really sorry for disturbing you at night, but this is very urgent! Please, upload what you have written, please upload the rough draft for this paper!! The customer really needs it.
Sincerely,
Susan.
[Support] [Writer] January 31 0:59 Dear !
I am really sorry for disturbing you at night, but this is very urgent! Please, upload what you have written, please upload the rough draft for this paper!! The customer really needs it.
Sincerely,
Susan.
[Customer] [Writer] January 31 2:40 Why you don't keep the promise?
you told me that you can do my favor that I need to have the paper earlier than I ordered. And, I told you the exact amount of time left til the new deadline. But, it is already passed, and I can't even contact with you.
You shouldn't say you can have done it by the deadline earlier than I ordered, if you can't.
Please send me a message and the paper asap!
[Support] [Writer] January 31 2:54 please could you naswer the messages of the customer?
Daniel Fireade.
[Support] [Writer] January 31 3:05 Dear Tila!
The customer's deadline is today morning, that is within 3-5 hours maximum.
Please, upload the paper by that time.
Otherwise, he may not need it at all.
Sincerely,
Susan.
[Writer] [Customer] January 31 8:14 The deadline for this paper was for January 31st. There were many other orders to be fulfilled before this one and I did not want to rush.
[Customer] [Writer] January 31 11:46 Dear writer,
If you have so many other orders, why did you promised me that you can have my paper than ealier than I originally ordered???
Because I know you have many orders, that is why I asked you first. I even asked the support that I can pay more or I can place a new order for faster one. But the answer I got was to "ask" you. So, I asked you with specific hours left, and you said the paper will be done ealier than I origianlly ordered. Then, now you are saying the original deadline is Jan. 31. What is it? I can't believe you say this.
Please please send me the paper AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
[Writer] [Customer] January 31 12:24 Not to seem rude or anything, but have you ever thought of doing your own work? I have a FAMILY to take care of you. You have no responsibilities but to ask others to complete your homework for you so you can get a degree.
I wonder how embarassed your mother must be that she raised a lazy, incompetent child only good to pay a writer $15 to complete a paper for them. If I were your mother, I'd smack you myself. I'd wish you the worse in all of your endeavors because you are getting them illegally.
And, maybe you should stop paying people do your work so you can learn your history independently.
Thank you.
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Jan 31, 07, 02:20PM
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Could you please tell what message does the chat pasted above tries to convey?
From what I can understand, you decieved the customer at the last moment, is that what you did?
We do have problems and complains against essaywriters, but I find what you have done totally unethical.
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Jan 31, 07, 02:41PM
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Essayer, you are obviously still working for them. Amazing!
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Edited by: essaywriterwriter Jan 31, 07, 05:04PM
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No, I wanted you to see how the customers are acting to the writers. It was my first assignment since I left the company. I never said I would finish the paper at the time they wanted me to; I said that I would finish the paper before deadline.
And..stating that what I did unethical, what makes you think I have pity for people who will not do their own work? I'm a firm believer in EARNING a degree or any recognition boasted upon a student. The client should learn as anyone else who uses essay writing services. If you are dumb enough to pay that company, you are dumb enough to settle for the consequences of the work NOT being done.
sincerely yours,
al djazaier
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Jan 31, 07, 05:48PM
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"The customer's deadline is today morning"
Who in the bloody hell says "today morning"? I'll tell you who--the dirty, Ukrainian scroundrels behind essaywriters.net!
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Jan 31, 07, 06:41PM
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Joined: Dec 24, 06
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Yeah, that is funny, Amy! So true!
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Jan 31, 07, 11:39PM
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Joined: Dec 28, 06
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Quoting: onedrfl, Post #271 Essayer, you are obviously still working for them. Amazing!
onedrfl, "essaywriterwriter" and essayer are 2 different posters! :)
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Edited by: essayer Feb 1, 07, 12:12AM
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Quoting: pineapple123, Post #270 Could you please tell what message does the chat pasted above tries to convey?
From what I can understand, you decieved the customer at the last moment, is that what you did?
We do have problems and complains against essaywriters, but I find what you have done totally unethical.
i have to agree that what you did essaywriterwriter was rather disagreeable. lazy those students may be, they provide at least part of the bread and butter of academic writers. besides, i'm a believer in good customer service.
but i do reckon with the fact that your starting this important forum thread did well for many. were it not for you, we'd probably remain unpaid, for a long time at the very least.
on the other, essaywriterwriter was not alone there. correct me if i'm wrong but 2 other disgruntled, former writers here did "sabotage" acts by taking multiple orders without doing them.
pineapple, what they did was akin to a labor or transportation strike. in order to get the message (non-payment) across, they took a punch at the business and the clients got to be affected. the bottom line is it's essaywriters.net's scamming ways that should be blamed.
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Feb 1, 07, 11:57AM
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Joined: Jan 31, 07
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It hurts my heart to see so many writers that have had problems with this company. Why has no one filed a law suit against them? Can someone hire an internal crime investigator to track their IPs, registrations, and other information? How can they continue to do this?
They steal money from writers then they steal money from students. I can't figure out their scheme; I call in and there are 5 different phones ringing in the background. How can our police track down serial killers' IPs, locations, and so on but they can not crack down on these companies?
We ask questions and they never answer them. Their English is horrible, writing is horrible, and their customer service is horrible. It's funny that when they try to contact me I don't answer my phone, but I hear 'Superior Papers' when I call back to the suspicious number. They've tried to call me Private, Unknown, and some other numbers.
If everyone is up to it, I'd say we should hire someone to handle the issue. I know it may seem unethical, but you have to prove a point somehow. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire and people will get hurt in the midst of it. I've realized we can't get help because writing essays for students is unethical in itself. No one wants to help a plagarizing criminal (or writer/student) if you really think about it.
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Edited by: lexmark Feb 1, 07, 05:10PM
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Quoting: essaywriterwriter, Post #277 How can our police track down serial killers' IPs, locations, and so on
Well lets see here, the reason they can track IP's is either the suspect sends it to them in a messenger service, by messenger service I mean MSN, AOL, or YIM. IP's can be gained that way. I should know :). I've done many trap and traces on IP's captured from these messenger services along with tracing IP's through e-mail headers. The way its done on a messenger, is the suspect sends you a file and this creates the direct connection needed to capture the IP address. I use the tool thats on all Windows XP machines called netstat. Once the person sends the file, type in "netstat" in a command prompt window and you will see the IP the file is coming from along with the current connections open on your machine. If an IP can not be captured then another way to gain a person's identity in a criminal investigation is to subpoena the person's screen name from the chat service. I'm not going to give a long lesson on the courts but this is done when probable cause is established. Below is the whois info on essaywriters.
Send a complaint to the hosting company of essaywriters.
Registrant:
Domains by Proxy Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd. Ste 160 PMB 353
Scottsdale Arizona 85260
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com Inc. http://www.godaddy.com
Domain Name: ESSAYWRITERS.NET
Created on: 08-Jan-05
Expires on: 08-Jan-08
Last Updated on: 30-Jul-06
Administrative Contact:
Private Registration ESSAYWRITERS.NET@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd. Ste 160 PMB 353
Scottsdale Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599
Technical Contact:
Private Registration ESSAYWRITERS.NET@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd. Ste 160 PMB 353
Scottsdale Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.2-PAY-SECURE.COM
NS2.2-PAY-SECURE.COM
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Feb 1, 07, 11:00PM
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Joined: Feb 1, 07
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I am an undergrad at uni in the uk, i cant spell or right particularly well but i do have educated opinions. From what i can see no one is concentrating on good or bad writing but about race. why does it matter at the end of the day, as long as firms are hiring capable people. some of the people in my course are on their first time over in the uk and they speak english better than i do. Place of origin means nothing. I dont care how clever or how many degrees and PHDs you have, if you believe it does then your not really intelligent at all.
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Feb 1, 07, 11:03PM
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Joined: Feb 1, 07
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When i say this, i mean the people in the first 100 threads or so. happy days
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