| Akash |
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Dec 30, 06, 01:59AM
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Just returned from the vacation. Wishing all of you for a bright and prosperous New Year.
As for Essaywriter issue, I'd say, "Life is a wonderful enigma. Patience, dear friends! Just a few more days..."
Akash
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| essayer |
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Dec 30, 06, 08:24AM
| #162 |
Joined: Dec 28, 06
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happy new year too to everyone! to amy1978, yes you are so right. and yes, we should look out after each one.
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| marikit01 |
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Dec 30, 06, 09:23PM
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I'm also having problems with essaywriters.net. I already received an email from xoom though, but a week has elapsed and the transaction still says 'processing payment." I inquired with xoom and asked what this means but it did not directly answer my question and merely said that i ought to wait for another 4-5 days. Now with what i'm reading from the thread... im quite alarmed. Is there a possibility that the transfer would be canceled? This should be my first payment as I'm new too in the company.
By the way... i saw a thread (forum) in http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-33726.0.html (pls check it out) and it says essaywriter.net is a profitable freelance job. I'd like to warn them but couldn't register. May be somebody here knows how to register or is a member and should warn them of the repercussions in joining essaywriters.
i do hope we'll have a happy new year.
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| orangecoke |
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Dec 30, 06, 10:35PM
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Joined: Dec 22, 06
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Hi. I have received a transaction receipt from xoom.com, stating that essaywriters.net has sent my payment on the 26th of December. however, I am still unsure whether they had funds with which to complete my payment since up to now my xoom transaction remains uncleared and I cannot get cash. Apparently it takes about a week before their bank account gets cleared. I will inform you guys if I am finally able to get the money. This fact, however, gives me a bit of assurance that they do pay their writers as they have already made the transation and the only problem remaining is the SOP of the other company, xoom.
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Dec 31, 06, 12:55AM
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Quoting: marikit01, Post #163 By the way... i saw a thread (forum) in http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-33726.0.html (pls check it out) and it says essaywriter.net is a profitable freelance job. I'd like to warn them but couldn't register. May be somebody here knows how to register or is a member and should warn them of the repercussions in joining essaywriters.
i guess they have not read this forum yet....I hope someone can register there and post a link on website so they can know what is really happening on Essaywriter.net
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Dec 31, 06, 01:08AM
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Joined: Dec 22, 06
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by the way I have heard from some friends working in PCI Equitable bank here in our place that Xoom has a system failure this December. I guess its' because of too many transfers this season. Right now the system is working already, that's what she said to me.
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| orangecoke |
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Jan 1, 07, 08:01PM
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Joined: Dec 22, 06
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I hope xoom gets back on its feet soon. I've been waiting for a week now.
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Jan 1, 07, 10:35PM
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Joined: Dec 7, 06
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I know some of you won't be surprised by the exchange i just had at Essay writers...
Your session reference number is 167184446
You Why have i not been paid? You keep putting your writers off.
HELLO?
No operator available now, Please wait..
Laura entered chat session
Laura hi!
Laura what is your ID number?
You i have to look it up
You 5388
Laura I am sorry to say that,,, but because of the regular plagiarism complaints and bad surveys you were fired.
Laura You will not receive your salary at all.
You isn't that funny...that's what you told all the other writers i spoke with, who haven't been paid. This is just part of your scam--a way not to pay.
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Jan 2, 07, 12:24AM
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Joined: Dec 30, 06
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I just got my salary in full (through Xoom) minus of course the service fee. I am so relieved.
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Jan 2, 07, 04:26AM
| #170 |
Joined: Dec 23, 06
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I feel sorry about your payments jaebaeli. I know how frustrating is it to work day and night on those orders, and not get paid for them. I am going through the same, just that I have stopped contacting the admin at all. I will wait for the season to get to its peak so they have hundreds of orders daily, I am sure they won't then have any other option left than to retain their writers by giving them out their salary.
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| Akash |
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Jan 2, 07, 07:52AM
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Hmm... seems this forum is also infected with intruders from their rank and file.. Folks, they've said the same to me what they said to Jaebaeli. However, I've been doing some homework (some large files to spread all over, and the appropriate tappings to knab them) which will be in force after 7th January if they don't pay me by then.
I've read some heart-rendering letters from fellow writers as well, who banked on essaywriters.net and are in real soup now. In fact it has become a large team now!
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Jan 2, 07, 09:48AM
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Quoting: Akash, Post #171 Hmm... seems this forum is also infected with intruders from their rank and file.. Folks, they've said the same to me what they said to Jaebaeli. However, I've been doing some homework (some large files to spread all over, and the appropriate tappings to knab them) which will be in force after 7th January if they don't pay me by then.
I've read some heart-rendering letters from fellow writers as well, who banked on essaywriters.net and are in real soup now. In fact it has become a large team now!
goodluck Akash, I hope you can taste them a dose of their own medicine. Essaywriter is really unfair in treating their employees. What they say to Jaebaeli and you are so annoying and sickening. They are like blood sucking leech. I wish something could be done to stop what their doing and I wish everyone will join hands on this matter. I know its hard to fight for something beyond our control. I hope everyone will continue to spread news about what is essaywriter doing on its employees. I hope justice will be serve to those person who is done wrong by writing mill such as essaywriter.net
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| onedrfl |
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Jan 3, 07, 02:59PM
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Joined: Dec 24, 06
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Here is another site to post complaints on: http://scamclub.com/
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Edited by: esther Jan 4, 07, 02:56AM
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Joined: Jan 4, 07
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I've been working for the company (essaywriters) for almost a year now and am glad that they didn't fail in sending my money or withhold it. I was able to receive my salary last Dec. 26 in full. I guess, payments for the other writers are not processed because their works have problems like plagiarism. The essaywriters started to be careful because some works submitted by the writers are written very poorly. When the salary is already send to the writer and the customer goes back to the company and demand for a refund (sometimes customers will have their complaints after 1 month which is very disgusting and essaywriters must have a strict policy on that for writers' protection) the essaywriters team is responsible in refunding the said amount paid by the customer and where will they get the amount when they already send it to the writer?; thus, essaywriters team is just vigilant now due to their past experiences. I am not here to defend anyone but to speak up for my experience regarding the company. Though some people say that essaywriters is a fraud but in some other ways, essaywriters has helped me in augmenting my income which is a great help for my family. =)
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| onedrfl |
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Jan 4, 07, 10:39AM
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Joined: Dec 24, 06
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So glad that EssayWriters worked for you, Esther. As I said, they finally paid me. This is the final correspondence we had. I said," Thank you for the payment. I am sorry that this worked out so badly because I had been very happy doing this work and would have continued doing the great job I had been doing if you had not given me such a difficult time about getting paid.
Good luck and try to be fair with the writers that you have."
They replied,
" Dear Sue,
We're very fair with the writers, the only reasons why the writer wouldn't get paid on time are:
1) plagiarism
2) low quality work
3) technical issues, as in your case.
I have already told you your particular payment was not processed on time because accountants hadn't your payment details (in your profile in the payment details section your e-mail registered with paypal was not provided).
Regards,
Tracy"
They changed their minds so many times about how and when to pay me and the information that they needed was always in my profile. They always feign a bad phone connection or some kind of nonsense that excuses them from answering questions that you direct to them.
They do read this forum and the reason that I was fired is in another email they sent me. It refers to what I have said in this forum. They do read it. I would rather be fired than to do any more work with them, never knowing when and for what reason they may choose to hold back my pay.
If other writers did plagiarize or produced low quality work then they should have been terminated immediately. EssayWriters, instead, allowed these writers to keep working for them and got all they could out of them before letting them know that their work was substandard. This is NOT how a legitmate company operates. There is more to this than just whether someone has or has not gotten paid.
You can keep working for them, Esther, but always be wary.
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| karen_6150 |
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Jan 4, 07, 11:23AM
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Joined: Dec 22, 06
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i just hope everything will get their payment and I hope essaywriter will surely be fair with their writers by paying them on time and let them know firsthand that the work they are doing is plagiarized so they can change it before handing it to customers so the customers will have no reasons to send back the work coz it was properly checked and the quality is approved by the customer. I guess the reason why Essaywriter's is in state of delimna its because they have so many writers and job orders that sometimes they might have problem checking the papers sent to them by writers , i guess they should give time in doing that to avoid non payment of customers. They must be fair with their rules and protect their writers so they can stay in this business. I am glad to hear that most of the writers are getting their payments. And wish everyone will recieved it as well........
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| Amy1978 |
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Jan 4, 07, 02:02PM
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Don't let "esther" fool you. He or she is a representative for the criminals at essaywriters.net.
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Edited by: esther Jan 4, 07, 06:53PM
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Hi Amy1978 =)! I am not fooling anyone here. Everyone is entitled for his/her own opinion and has the right to speak up for his/her own experience! I am NOT a representative from essayrwriters but just a "writer" hoping to augment my income for my family's need. And don't you ever judge anyone here just because he/she is not on your side but allow people to speak up because that's their own right! Don't be too rude and critical with other individuals because they are humans too, just like you. Better to be a nobody and yet have a servant than pretend to be somebody and have no food, get it?!? Because of the the kind of character you show here in the forum, I can simply say that you are a "woman full of troubles in her heart" because out from the abundant of your heart, the mouth speaketh". Stay cool because if you won't, you are just making your own wrinkles!!! Tc
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| Amy1978 |
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Jan 5, 07, 12:09AM
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Please take your essaywriters.net propaganda elsewhere.
Again, you are fooling no one.
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Edited by: esther Jan 5, 07, 02:06AM
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Anyways, why should I feel upset when u (Amy1978) accused me of something which I don't do? Well, blame those other American students who are very lazy in doing their responsibilities as students. These students always ask us (the writers) to make their researches, dissertations, courseworks and etc. And don't you know that most of my clients are coming from the States? These are the set of people who mostly give me a satisfactory survey and telling me (perhaps with other writers, too) that they got an A grade or A+ because of my work. So don't belittle the writers on essaywriters. There are times that miscommunications occur between us (the writers) and the administrators from essaywriters regarding the salary but please don't assume that essaywriters' writers are no good... We, too, are degree holders (others may not be but don't generalize). And how would you feel when I generalize all Americans as unintelligent people because they cannot make their own paperworks and just entrust these paperworks to the people who belong in the "third world countries". And what is wrong then with the people from the third world countries?
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Jan 5, 07, 01:27PM
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Esther, you just proved my point, yet you are too IGNORANT to realize it. You're an ESL hack for essaywriters.net. Your grammar and word use are a joke. Go ahead and make generalizations about Americans all you like. Idiots come from all over the globe, and you're heading the class!
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| pineapple123 |
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Jan 5, 07, 03:02PM
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Joined: Dec 23, 06
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Seems most of the writers here in the forum have got paid. You guys are so lucky. I am still stuck and there seems to be no hopes left. If they were to pay, they would have by now at least. 15th January will be another pay out day, I wonder if I should ask them about the updates now, or should I wait till 15th to see if they pay me or not? Please advise and pray that I get paid soon, believe me I have so many responsiblities on my shoulders. My dad has passed away a few months ago, I have to manage all my things by my own. I was relying on my payments from essaywriters, but my bad luck.
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Edited by: esther Jan 5, 07, 05:53PM
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"You're an ESL hack for essaywriters.net. "
SO what is wrong being an ESL? Why did you say that my grammar and the word used are a joke? Is it because I am telling the turth that most of the Americans are very lazy in doing their paperworks and you just can't accept that fact? Does it hurt your ego? I don't even claim that English is my first language? Don't be too PROUD of yourself Amy! People who have critical minds are MORONS, and it includes YOU! Huh, Amy1978...
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Jan 5, 07, 06:07PM
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Pineapple, you request again from the essaywriters and be open to them. I am sure they will listen to you. And don't forget to PRAY because PRAYER can move mountains and our blessings come from GOD. God knows your needs and He is able to meet them! =)
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Jan 5, 07, 07:30PM
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esther, you're an idiot. Your comments don't even make sense. You've added nothing to this forum except incoherent babble and lies in favor of essaywriters.net, your employer.
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Jan 5, 07, 10:56PM
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I guess we need to be openminded about this matter. I guess both Amy and Esther have their point but I just don't like reading a forum wherein exchanged of language are harsh and ugly remarks are pointed to each one of us. Were educated people here , their's no use insulting other people and giving each other ugly remarks. If we are indeed educated just we claim to be then we must watch our own language as well. We must be responsible in this forum and watch our language as this is a public forum , you are not the only people reading this forum. If Ester claims she got paid then I guess we can give her a benefit of the doubt and if she can can prove it , much better . We must not be bias with our remarks. Anyway people who make this topic might have recieved their payments already. I guess their's no point of continuing this forum and the admin must closed it , it only causes disputes and ugly remarks from each one of us .
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Jan 6, 07, 08:46PM
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Joined: Dec 28, 06
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Pineapple, jaebaeli, akash and devangini to date seemed not yet paid. This forum should not be closed unless everyone's paid--the reason for being of this thread. I agree though that we should all be polite, without stepping on the freedom of expression.
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| orangecoke |
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Jan 7, 07, 09:44AM
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Joined: Dec 22, 06
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I received payment from essaywriters through xoom.com. However, my friend hasn't, for unknown reasons, even though we provided similar kinds of payment info.
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Edited by: esther Jan 7, 07, 06:06PM
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Orangecoke, maybe the works of your friend have plagiarism and written very poorly. That is one of the reasons why essaywriters cannot send the writer's salary. And don't you know that essaywriters is very strict when it comes to plagiarism? I am one of their writers and had understood their policy. You better read first their policy so that you can thoroughly understand why salaries are not processed immediately.
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Edited by: Amy1978 Jan 7, 07, 06:53PM
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"I am one of their writers and had understood their policy."
Get lost! You're one of their owners! Once again, you're fooling nobody.
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Jan 7, 07, 08:16PM
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Yes, I am one of their writers and really understood their policy. Amy, I don't have to prove anything to you because I know what I am doing. You are so judgmental! I know how their system works because I've been working with them as a writer for a long time... And for you orangecoke, kindly tell your friend to read first the policy of essaywriters. I also understand your side because just like you, I am also working very hard. Everything will be settled if there is an open-communication between an employer and his employees and the employees should abide their rules and regulations to avoid trouble.
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Edited by: Akash Jan 8, 07, 01:25AM
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Hmmm
Esther, it seems that you're hell bent to prove the chastity of essaywriters.com. You've even talked about understanding their policies. Now tell me, if you're accused of plagiarism about the content asked by the client themselves, or for the references or in-text citations, what would you do? What would you do my dear, when your original work of fiction (which I did for them) shows 'plagiarism' in their software?
It's a double edge scene for the writers; if h/she caters to the order h/she gets accused of plagiarism!
I know it from my heart that I consciously avoided plagiarism as I myself hate it from the core. Many of my works there have received good feedbacks. I can show you all of the comments/reviews by the clients. Yet they put on plagiarism label on some of my work and under that pretext kept my payment on hold. I am ready to show my works done for them to anybody. And may I, for once ask you to show your sample of 'plagiarism-free, high-quality paper/essays' published on the web? I humbly submit that I can provide my published works for which I received payments from the websites or print media, fair and straight, without any such fuss. The professional world doesn't run like these mushroomed companies, you've to take this.
You've adviced about having open communicaton with essaywriters. This exposes you more as a volunteer of the company. I have their threads galore to publish here, to prove their tendencies and patterns of communication with a writer. So Esther, don't mislead people. If you can't do good to anyone, at least don't harm anyone, don't encourage any new writer to be their prey. Lot more is yet to come about them all throughout the web and also to the decks of the universities.
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Edited by: esther Jan 8, 07, 04:26AM
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Akash, they don't own the anti-plagiarism software. They subscribe it in www.mydropbox.com which is an anti-plagiarism software. I know this things because I have a sister working in the company too and she does not receive her salary because of plagiarism. I viewed her works and the mydropbox.com highlighted the sentences that were plagiarized. She accepted her fault.
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| onedrfl |
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Jan 8, 07, 09:18AM
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Well as you all know, I was lucky enough to get paid. Let's just pretend for a New York minute, that Essay Writers is a legitimate company that pays their writers on time and all the time. OK, that minute is up!
They DO NOT pay their writers on time all the time. If, indeed, as you say, Esther, the reason for non-payment is due to plagiarism in many cases, then it is incumbent upon the staff at Essay Writers to make sure that the essays have been checked for plagiarism before the writer's due date for payment. That is just the way good businesses are run. Indeed, they hold payment for works completed for at least 2 weeks which gives them ample time to scrutinize. If they really were a legitimate business then they would run the software immediately upon receiving the work from the writer to ensure that the valued customer would be getting an essay that they paid for plagiarism free. That is another indication of a legitimate business. Unlike some of the others, Esther, I do not believe that you are on their staff, however, I do think that you want to continue working for them hoping that you will continue to get paid, and so you are closing your eyes to the truth about them.
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Jan 8, 07, 10:23AM
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esther, me and my friend understood the policy perfectly. we are sure that we do not plagiarize. besides, my friend always communicates with the company but she said they never respond. nevertheless, it's not the same with me because i have received my salary and they do respond to my messages. I guess they just treat their writers differently and i was lucky to have been favorably treated.
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Jan 8, 07, 03:16PM
| #196 |
Joined: Dec 23, 06
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Esther you know what? I have Eve 2.5 plagiarism detection software, which I bought 2 years ago. I bought it just to make sure that all the papers I upload are totally plagiarism-free. That's how careful I am when writing papers. They have detected 4 of my papers to be "so-called" plagiarised, and I am just sick and tired of trying to explain them that THE PAPERS ARE NOT PLAGIARISED BECAUSE I HAVE CITED THE MATERIAL TAKEN FROM WEBSITES AND ONLINE ARTICLES! but they just don't get.
WHAT ON EARTH SHOULD I DO NOW? DO I REALLY DESERVE THIS? I DON'T THINK SO! I am frustrated like anything!
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Jan 9, 07, 12:57AM
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Esther,
(Akash, they don't own the anti-plagiarism software. They subscribe it in mydropbox.com which is an anti-plagiarism software. I know this things because I have a sister working in the company too and she does not receive her salary because of plagiarism.)
Ha ha ha, we've grown old with such software programmes!! They'd come up with most of the things under the sun to prove their efficacy. Esther, this also proves that you yourself don't know how the plagiarism is detected. It's not the out come of Eve etc., but the evaluation of the content under the context determines whether the writer plagiarized others' works. What those programmes do is to identify the common areas among the webcontent and writers' content. In the process they end up with all possible phrases nowhere connected to the context. Then it's the evaluators' job to sieve through all and find the intention of the writer. You've opened up a company (essaywriter.net, I'm sure you're part of them) and you're trying to find an escape route from paying your writers for their hard and sincere works through this accusation of plagiarism and citing a ridiculous idea of one or two plagiarism programmes/sites' reports, which are just loose views on the commonality of the contents. Don't try to trick the newcomers by this.
Why on earth you don't come up clean? I'm sure that'd mean more money and peace for you as well! By not paying the writers you're immobilizing your own flow of income. And soon it'll be dwindled out to a zero; and then you'd shift your base to another website for some more days. Instead of harping on the fringe percentage of the writers, if you concentrate on paying them and on time, I'm sure you'd earn more. I wonder why this simple logic fails to make way to your head! I guess lack of education, ethics and practical sense convinces you about the short-cut route of earning, all the while blanketing the imminent disaster impending to it.
Pineapple, don't loose heart. It'd only be the matter of time before you get over it. In fact I'm more moved by the others' loss than mine, as I go through a good many heart-rendering stories from the writers across the globe, where some of them even faced the hard legal notice of paying post-dated cheques, which they did solely banking on the promises by this essaywriters.net.
Esther, now the net would narrow itself gradually and a different kind of essay would be written by the writers, if you waste any more time to clear your deck.
(P.S. : I understand, fellow writers, they read our works through the translation softwares (English to Russian), which in most of the cases convey wrong meaning. Maybe that's the reason they fall short on understanding even if you give them good advice! This is the funny part of the fiasco)
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Jan 17, 07, 05:40PM
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Joined: Dec 28, 06
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Hi everyone. That was a looong silence.
It's the payment period again for essaywriters.net. Anybody yet unpaid been given his/her due?
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| onedrfl |
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Jan 17, 07, 07:18PM
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Joined: Dec 24, 06
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I can't believe after all this that people are actually still writing for them. If you are still writing for them and donot get paid I have no sympathy for you now.
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| onedrfl |
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Jan 17, 07, 07:20PM
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Joined: Dec 24, 06
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I cannot believe that people are still writing for them after all this. If you are and haven't gotten paid then I do not feel one bit sorry for you. No one that has any knowledge of their corrupt ways should be writing a single syllable for them.
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