| Amy1978 |
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Dec 24, 06, 08:17PM
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http://www.lawguru.com/cgi/bbs/mesg.cgi?i=460640032
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| Ann_y |
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Dec 25, 06, 09:15AM
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Joined: Dec 25, 06
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Guys, of course I can speak only for myself. But I seem to be one of the luckiest who did receive their payments. I use paypal and I can just guess that maybe you didn’t get your payments because of some technical problems such as holidays or weekend. At their site I read about possibility of such problems.
Anyway, hope you will receive what you earned and Merry Christmas!
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| Amy1978 |
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Dec 25, 06, 01:45PM
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Yeah, nice try, "Ann."
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| mic00 |
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Dec 25, 06, 03:38PM
| #124 |
Joined: Dec 2, 06
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Well guys, despite a missing payment on one $20 assigment from a few weeks ago, I got my money through paypall on the 23rd. With everyone else not getting their money, I was sure I'd be among the list of you. Even though I got paid, I'm still not to happy with the company in general not returning messages, and other companies are paying 10x more money then them.
Brian
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| pineapple123 |
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Dec 25, 06, 04:50PM
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Joined: Dec 23, 06
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Hello everyone,
I still remain sad with my tragic story of not being paid for my work as yet. But you know, they're replying to all my queries real fast. It's as if we're almost chatting, lol. And you know what? they are actually checking all the papers for plagiarism. On my request, they showed me a couple of reports that detected plagiarism in my papers, but unfortunately they did not realize that I had actually cited the sources too. I have just messaged them about that, let's see what they say in reply. I am not totally upset with them. As long as they pay me eventually I don't mind anything. Like obviously, delays in payments is definitely a pain, but considering the no. of orders they have, I might really want to continue working for them. Four of my cousins work for them, they all have recieved their payments today. This keeps my hopes alive. Let's see what happens next.
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| karen_6150 |
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Dec 25, 06, 06:28PM
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Joined: Dec 22, 06
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well i guess everything is doing great for all of you......anyway just be careful and not to give hundred percent of your trust .....anyway its really good to hear that you can get your payment..........nice job everyone
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| onedrfl |
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Dec 26, 06, 08:50AM
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Joined: Dec 24, 06
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I don't know who mic00 is, but he is someone that I haven't heard of here before and so is Ann_y. Could be just people that are sent by essaywriters. I still have no pay.
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| Ann_y |
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Dec 26, 06, 09:17AM
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Joined: Dec 25, 06
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I am not sent by anyone. I just wanted to share my experience. Onedrfl, check everything thoroughly. Hope you will get what you earned. Good luck and don't be so suspicious.
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| onedrfl |
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Dec 26, 06, 09:37AM
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Joined: Dec 24, 06
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How many essays have you written for them, over what period of time, and how much did they owe you?
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| onedrfl |
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Dec 26, 06, 09:43AM
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Joined: Dec 24, 06
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The other thing is that, of course, they are going to have to pay some people to look legitimate and stay in business. They are obviously not stupid. They are just crooks.
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| onedrfl |
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Dec 26, 06, 10:07AM
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Joined: Dec 24, 06
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I am also very interested to know on exactly what topics people have written and what the titles of the topics were. They only have 5 available orders up today. It is the end of the semester so it looks OK now. I do wonder if they sometimes put up orders that no one has actually ordered so that it will look like they are busy when they are not. The writers that unknowingly choose the "fake" orders would, of course, not be paid since no one is paying them.
"Don't be so suspicious?" Well the reason they have gotten away with this for 5 years is because people are NOT suspicious. I don't care if I am the worst writer in the world, which I already know I am not, having won prizes for my work, but when someone says they are going to pay you then you should be paid and paid on time. Nothing less is acceptable; not in my country, anyway!
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| onedrfl |
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Dec 26, 06, 10:09AM
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Joined: Dec 24, 06
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Thanks, Amy. Yes, this is true. I do know someone that has clout in the Ukraine. Am trying to get in touch with them.
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| sjshar1510 |
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Dec 27, 06, 02:49PM
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Joined: Dec 27, 06
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i've got ripped and raped by essaywriters.net
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they owe me payment for 48 days of non-stop work , 36 assignments totalling to 1200 USD....
they are making all excuses on planet to pay me.
I am a writer from India!
Sanjeev
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| onedrfl |
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Dec 28, 06, 01:26PM
| #134 |
Joined: Dec 24, 06
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Sanjeev,
Send me an email
onedrflday2day@yahoo.com
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| essayer |
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Dec 28, 06, 03:33PM
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Joined: Dec 28, 06
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Enough of language criticisms. Important for writers but what I'm interested in is the story of essaywriterswriter.
If you and the others didn't get your salary, you can supposedly file your complaint with http://www.ic3.gov/. I got this tip from another forum. I think everyone who's been victimized should lodge his or her complaints against ESSAYWRITERS.NET's scams!
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| Amy1978 |
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Dec 28, 06, 03:47PM
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You know, you can mention the name of the other forum. They don't compete.
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| onedrfl |
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Edited by: onedrfl Dec 28, 06, 06:02PM
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Joined: Dec 24, 06
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Well I must tell you they depsoited all of what they owed me into my PayPal account today. I have requested for PayPal to put the money into my bank account. I will feel secure once this is done. I understand PayPal takes 4-5 days to do this. I don't think they can take the money back once they have deposited it into PayPal but I am not sure.
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| pineapple123 |
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Dec 28, 06, 07:36PM
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Joined: Dec 23, 06
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you're so lucky you got paid.. I guess i am the only one left to get paid now. i needed money badly. Have a lot of my needs to be met, believe me I feel like crying sometimes. they're not paying me what I OWE THEM, and that's definitely the worst part of it.
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| Akash |
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Dec 29, 06, 02:05AM
| #139 |
Joined: Dec 7, 06
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NO, Pineapple.. .I've not been paid yet.
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| karen_6150 |
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Dec 29, 06, 06:53AM
| #140 |
Joined: Dec 22, 06
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I just wanna asked if you haven't reach the target 400 $ they won't pay you?
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| onedrfl |
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Dec 29, 06, 09:36AM
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Joined: Dec 24, 06
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Pineapple, don't give up. Maybe you will still get the money. Iwish you the very best. Karen, I had less than $400 and they paid me.
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| Major |
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Dec 29, 06, 09:49AM
| #142 |
Joined: Oct 3, 06
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As far as I know paypal doesn't work in India or Pakistan - maybe they send the money another way?
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| onedrfl |
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Dec 29, 06, 10:28AM
| #143 |
Joined: Dec 24, 06
Posts: 70
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They have several other options. One is wire transfer but I think that with that they deduct some money.
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| essayer |
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Dec 29, 06, 10:32AM
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Joined: Dec 28, 06
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hey! i've also been RIPPED OFF by ESSAYWRITERS! i completed 32 orders for them, 20 payable THIS WEEK (for the "combined" payment periods of Dec. 16 and Jan. 1). they kept giving excuses about "something not right or incomplete with my payment details. under vague guidelines, i kept re-editing the details and when finally they "VERIFIED" them, they say the accountant's already on holiday which they later changed to "accountant doesn't work outside payment terms", etc. this, when they earlier kep promising thru email, chat and messaging system that they'll pay on time! Help me and the others! Essaywriters.net is a BIG SCAM of a website!
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| onedrfl |
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Dec 29, 06, 11:06AM
| #145 |
Joined: Dec 24, 06
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This is what you wrote: "If you and the others didn't get your salary, you can supposedly file your complaint with http://www.ic3.gov/. I got this tip from another forum. I think everyone who's been victimized should lodge his or her complaints against ESSAYWRITERS.NET's scams!" Did you do this?
Why didn't you mention before that you also had not gotten paid?
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| essayer |
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Dec 29, 06, 11:11AM
| #146 |
Joined: Dec 28, 06
Posts: 127
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because i gave them an ultimatum and i was kinda hoping they'll pay before.
i got that info when i was already worried whether they'll pay me or not. they were giving all kinds of lame excuses to delay.
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| essayer |
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Dec 29, 06, 11:14AM
| #147 |
Joined: Dec 28, 06
Posts: 127
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i gave them up to over an hour ago to pay and give me the tracking no. they did however say some 20 hours ago that i'll shortly receive my money. just now, minutes ago, they told me they'll "try ur best (sic)" to pay me today or tom. i'll wait for 23 hours and will get back to you guys and gals.
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| jaebaeli |
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Dec 29, 06, 06:04PM
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Joined: Dec 7, 06
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Quoting: Amy1978, Post #121 http://www.lawguru.com/cgi/bbs/mesg.cgi?i=460640032
Amy- that was the link to the question i asked the lawguru.
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| jaebaeli |
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Edited by: jaebaeli Dec 29, 06, 06:07PM
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Joined: Dec 7, 06
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Quoting: Major, Post #142 As far as I know paypal doesn't work in India or Pakistan - maybe they send the money another way?
It must work there, because most of us got paid initially. That's what they do--they pay you at first to suck you in, and then they stop paying you. Anyway, it DOES work or none of us would have been paid to begin with.
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| jaebaeli |
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Dec 29, 06, 06:18PM
| #150 |
Joined: Dec 7, 06
Posts: 21
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I filed my complaint with IC3. Below is the confirmation mail i received from them.
"Thank you for filing a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3).
Your complaint has been successfully submitted. Please retain the following information for future contacts with the IC3:
Complaint Id: I0612282236207351
Password: VjiV35WusX
If you wish to view/download your complaint or have any additional information to provide to the IC3, please use the following link and login with the above complaint id and password.
http://complaint.ic3.gov/update
The IC3's mission is to serve as a vehicle to receive, develop, and refer criminal complaints regarding the rapidly expanding arena of cyber crime. The IC3 aims to give the victims of cyber crime a convenient and easy-to-use reporting mechanism.
Complaint Status
The IC3 receives thousands of complaints each month and does not have the resources to respond to inquiries regarding the status of complaints. It is the IC3's intention to review all complaints and refer them to law enforcement and regulatory agencies having jurisdiction. Ultimately, investigation and prosecution are at the discretion of the receiving agencies.
Evidence
It is important that you maintain any evidence you may have relating to your complaint. Evidence may include canceled checks, credit card receipts, phone bills, mailing envelopes, mail receipts, a printed copy of a website, copies of emails, or similar items. Please keep the items in a safe location, in case you are requested to provide them for investigative purposes.
Additionally, to learn more about Internet schemes and ways to protect yourself, please visit lookstoogoodtobetrue.com
Also, I continue to bill essaywriters/universalresearch through paypal. and i have reported them to paypal. Paypal has said they are investigating. Since Universal Research is a registered member of paypal, if they are suspected/found to be fraudulent, there's a good chance paypal will cancel their account. This means they cannot use paypal, and hopefully this will help cripple them. i encourage all of you to file complaints with both paypal and IC3.
Jae
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| karen_6150 |
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Dec 29, 06, 06:42PM
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Joined: Dec 22, 06
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Quoting: Major, Post #142 As far as I know paypal doesn't work in India or Pakistan - maybe they send the money another way?
yeah i guess paypal not working in India you should have choose Xoom or WU. But it must be better if you choose WU coz you will know the name of the sender and point of origin of the sender when you choose WU.
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| karen_6150 |
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Edited by: karen_6150 Dec 29, 06, 06:49PM
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Joined: Dec 22, 06
Threads: 1
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In such way you can have a piece of evidence if next time they won't pay you, atleast you can have the name and port of origin of the sender.
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| jaebaeli |
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Dec 29, 06, 06:52PM
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Joined: Dec 7, 06
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Quoting: essayer, Post #146 because i gave them an ultimatum and i was kinda hoping they'll pay before.
i got that info when i was already worried whether they'll pay me or not. they were giving all kinds of lame excuses to delay.
Here's the thing:: ultimatums don't work with them. Since they are not legitimate, and are merely trying to make money from Americans in a fraudulent manner, and are also NOT on American soil, they know that they only have to stall and cajole and ignore long enough to make as much as they can before the disappear, reinvent themselves, and start the process again.
Don't think for a second there is ANYTHING remotely legitimate about them.
WE know their business address is not real. WE know they have cheated many writers, as we can see on forums like this. We know from some experience how they treat the writers when the writers are in their employ, and how suspicious and unprofessional they are ALWAYS. All the earmarks of a scam organization are present, yet some of us continue to hope for the best. While a positive attitude is indeed important, it is not helpful to be naive, and this only perpetuates the scam. We have to be hardcore about this, gang. We have to stand up and say something. We have to be proactive. Nothing changes until we change it.
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| karen_6150 |
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Dec 29, 06, 07:05PM
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Joined: Dec 22, 06
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i have look to their website through my cousin account ,According to Essaywriter.net they are planning to pay you on Jan. 15, 2007 for those who haven't paid their writers from Nov. 15 till the present work...Too much delay I guess. Perhaps their Accounting Department isn't good enough to handle such job. It's a mind boggling for me though how come they are still checking the papers for plagiarism haven't they check it first before giving to customer? coz my cousin have been working for another company and she really like it there , she has no problem with payment and they really check the paper for plagiarism and tells you immediately about it, they let you do it before submission and after that they will send it to customer.
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| onedrfl |
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Edited by: onedrfl Dec 29, 06, 07:06PM
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Joined: Dec 24, 06
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Hi all,
I no longer have access to all of the site since I have been fired, but I was wondering how many orders they have up. Does anyone know?
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| Amy1978 |
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Edited by: Amy1978 Dec 29, 06, 07:14PM
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http://www.essaywriters.net/whychooseus.php
"Competitive rewards
You can earn up to $16/page."
What a joke! All of the American companies pay up to $25 per page!
"Bimonthly payments
You get wages twice a month. Orders completed from 1st through 15th are paid on/between 1st and 3rd of the next month and orders completed from 16th through 31st will be paid on/between 15th and 18th of the next month."
Yeah, right! See, THAT is how they fool a steady stream of new writers! When payments don't arrive on time, they come up with excuse after excuse, promising to pay "in a few days" or "next week." In the meantime, the writer keeps working and the company keeps getting paid for new orders by customers. Then, after weeks/months of stalling and bullsh*t excuses for not paying the writer, EssayWriters.net comes up with bogus "plagiarism" accusations as an excuse to fire the writer WITHOUT PAY! Writers mean NOTHING to them. As soon as a writer speaks up about lack of payment and poses a "problem," they fire him/her and simply hire another clueless victim to start the ripoff process all over again.
We need to stop them!
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| Amy1978 |
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Dec 29, 06, 07:27PM
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By the way, all of the "testimonials" on their site are bullsh*t. They are all fake. Take note of the "apple pie" names they made up for each one.
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| jaebaeli |
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Edited by: jaebaeli Dec 29, 06, 07:59PM
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Quoting: karen_6150, Post #154 i have look to their website through my cousin account ,According to Essaywriter.net they are planning to pay you on Jan. 15, 2007 for those who haven't paid their writers from Nov. 15 till the present work...Too much delay I guess. Perhaps their Accounting Department isn't good enough to handle such job. It's a mind boggling for me though how come they are still checking the papers for plagiarism haven't they check it first before giving to customer? coz my cousin have been working for another company and she really like it there , she has no problem with payment and they really check the paper for plagiarism and tells you immediately about it, they let you do it before submission and after that they will send it to customer.
Um, Karen.....you don't seem to understand. They have promised payment and then not paid and promised it again, repeatedly. They are stalling. They have no intention of paying. As for the plagiarism checks....they developed that program on their own to make themselves seem more legitimate. Also---don't you find it absurd that they speak of checking for plagiarism, when their entire operation is ABOUT STUDENTS TURNING IN THE WORK OF SOMEONE ELSE? The only difference between this and cheating, is that the writers are giving permission for their work to be used however the buyer wants, in exchange for PAYMENT. Essentially, writers are selling their talent just as they would if they got a contract and got paid for what they wrote in a novel. The important distinction is that the end result is a student who does not do his/her own work, but buys the efforts of a writer, and passes it as his/her own, and gets a grade, and maybe even a degree from it. They will NOT HAVE EARNED this degree. This is cheating. These people might actually become the professionals in our midst, having gained their credentials dishonestly. As for the essaywriters.net weasels......They are making a living at CHEATING. They are liars. They are crooks. They are foreign people trying to make a profit off the naivete of American writers.
What part of SCAM do you not understand?
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| essayer |
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Dec 29, 06, 10:50PM
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Joined: Dec 28, 06
Posts: 127
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hey gals and guys, i've got news for you. they sent me my earnings of $385 for the combined periods! just now via xoom. this forum works! although i still have $198 with them for the Jan. 15 payment period. let's wait if they process that too. don't lose hope pineapple and jaebaeli. but i'll remain vigilant for the 12 orders still unpaid due Jan. 15-17. gosh, i worked so so hard for my money.
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| Amy1978 |
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Edited by: Amy1978 Dec 29, 06, 11:49PM
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Essayer, they are famous for making TOKEN payments to the people who don't give up and make a fuss in this forum. They read this forum, too. But we need to make sure that they don't keep taking advantage of hundreds of new writers every year. Freelance writers need to watch out for each other!
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