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Edited by: coders02 Nov 21, 06, 02:22PM
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"Well, that's how long it takes the low-paid Pakistani and Indian writers who don't care about quality. "
"The fact that you view yourself as a "professional writer" makes ME laugh.
Go work for EssayRelief."
I am trying to understand the nuances of the English Language here.
These have to be examples of subtle remarks " or tongue-in-cheek prose".
Bernard Shaw must have inspired this!
True , how could one overlook such genteel discussions?
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| Amy1978 |
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Nov 21, 06, 02:58PM
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Please stop. Your argument is incoherent. I have already stated the focus of my criticism. You keep reverting. We're done.
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| coders02 |
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Nov 21, 06, 05:23PM
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Of course we're done. The moment one says that I would not be able to express myself well in English, inspite of my diction , we were done.
How can anyone gauge anything beyond whats posted. People made assumptions about nationality via ESL etc.
(Come to think of it, Posters like Dylan and Major never take it upon themselves to correct others' grammatical mistakes. Nor do they bring up race or nationality.
You started by enumerating grammatical mistakes.
If thats not bitter , what is? When there is such hostility and bitterness, we all turn to sane, informed and genteel posters like Dylan.
The above post that makes comments about nuances is a general one. I havent mentioned an poster's name per se'.
I havent told any one to stop. Democracy. I havent posted informed (!) comments like "WTF". Bravo poster ,such good upbringing is reflected when one uses "WTF".
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| coders02 |
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Nov 21, 06, 05:37PM
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Now, after a few hundred words, I know that nicer things wait: good company , family, and Thanks giving of course.
Its a waste of time try ting to address issue brought up by posters who say "WTF" in a forum such as this. What a waste of time.
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Nov 21, 06, 05:55PM
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"You assume that my native tongue is something other than English."
Any native English speaker knows that "Thanks giving" is one word.
You are an ESL writer. It's obvious. Your argument could not get any weaker. Please stop while you're behind.
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Dec 2, 06, 12:34AM
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Quoting: coders02, Post #26 This "writer" (devangini) is just one of the below average performers that you will come across in third world coutries. If he has to resort to writing for essaywriters.net, he probably is not good enough for other fields that are much sought after in the Indian subcontinent.
Not that I'm defending devangini, however if you're going to insult someone with generalized terms such as everyone in third world countries are below average performers, at least get your terms correct. The term "third world," has been replaced with the term "developing." Although India is culturally different, they are by no means a developing country. Considering their political structure, infrastructure, education system, health care, and legal system they are a highly developed country as compared to what actually is considered a developing nation.
I have only been working with essaywriters.net for a short time, and have not had any problems yet. As for the pay, it is by no means something a person could live off of; however for a person such as myself who is using the pay as a secondary source of revenue, I find it a perfect way to generate income. The average pay for a page is approximately $6-8/page which takes me an hour per page after research, trying, and proofread. It is not bad pay since that equals $10/hr before tax, and I don't even have to put pants on.
As for the quality, I have received a BSc in Business Admin., therefore I do have some experience. Although I do proofread my work, I know that some grammatical errors do slip by. I'll be honest; I really do not feel bad. If someone is going to cheat by taking someone else's work and pass it off as their own, they can friggin take 5min and proof it themselves.
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Edited by: Amy1978 Dec 2, 06, 01:10AM
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"The term 'third world,' has been replaced with the term 'developing.'
Only in your mind . . . .
Sorry if you can't handle the truth. Take your PC garbage elsewhere.
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Dec 6, 06, 05:20AM
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What's wrong with people from third world country doing some of your "American essays"? You go tell that to Ameriacan students who are lazzy enough not to do their responsibility as a student. These men from third world countries just want to earn extra money.
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Dec 6, 06, 05:38PM
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Clearly, you are an ESL speaker, as well, which is quite evident by the atrocious nature of your spelling, grammar, and word choice. Sorry, but Americans don't want you writing for them.
Oh, and if these "third world" writers want to make money, why don't they just write in their NATIVE LANGUAGE in their own countries instead of ripping off Americans who don't know any better until they receive the ESL GARBAGE for which they paid.
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Dec 6, 06, 11:04PM
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I usually don't bother myself with this kind of stuff. But there is a limit to racism and I wonder if I can afford to remain a mute observer to such putrid hatred from a purportedly educated American.
Firstly, young lady you are gravely mistaken when you assume that Indians or Pakistanis actually want to rip off you 'poor' Americans.
Fact is MOST people in your country cannot even SPEAK proper English. And writing in good, proper, grammatically correct English is a far cry for most Americans.
We are not writing your essays out of the goodness of our hearts. We will write for anybody who pays well – be they Ukrainian, British or dumb-headed Americans who think the world revolves around them.
Get yourself checked lady, the world's changing and if you refuse to change with it, you'll be left all alone with your illusions.
And by the way, India IS DEVELOPED/DEVELOPING but definitely not third world. But then why bother trying to correct a gas-filled bag of scum?
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Edited by: Amy1978 Dec 6, 06, 11:58PM
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priya,
Criticizing inept, ESL writers has NOTHING to do with racism, you ignorant buffoon. I'd be just as critical of an ESL, German writer with blonde hair and blue eyes. I'm protecting AMERICAN CONSUMERS from ESL writers of ANY RACE who falsely claim to be a native speaker of the English language!
Why is it that incompetent, ESL writers always pull the race card? Pathetic.
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Edited by: Akash Dec 7, 06, 05:19AM
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Dear Friends,
I'm an Indian author, who tries to write in English also, mostly due to the encouragement gained by publication. Anyway, I'd like to share my views on the ongoing topic as below.
'None of us was the decider of our origin, nor that is something heavy baggage to carry on. Some generations ago, America was also one of the hard-fighting nations, working its way to top (though it always remained a conglomeration of sorts). Thus we can learn from those pedigreed animals who don't bark on such ground! The inside story is, those animals know that would be seen as a part of their heritage.
So, it's better to share the world with true spirit of living'.
Btw friends, I'm also a rookie in Essaywriting rink and just stopped writing for essaywriters.com after finishing the last order. According to their calculation, I've covered $527 USD, of which I'm yet to get anything. Nobody from their side is answering anything about it, though they are doubly energetic to track any order that's lying with the writer. I took this as a reroute process to study and execution, though the aspect of earning money out of it was important.
Now could anyone please tell me whether s/he has so far received any payment from the essaywriters.net? If it is not, then what can be the way to collect that? The groupware they're using is impeccable to cast any doubt; the feedbacks regarding any assignment are as prompt as flash. Their homepage also announces schemes for writers (and they're reflected in the payment board too). All said and done, money part remains undone up till now, though I've received good feedbaks from most of the clients.
Please tell me if there is anyone who actually recieved payment from essaywriters.net. There should be many who are writing for them; even my id no. exceeds 7000! Is it possible to cheat so many people in the same manner? I don't think so.
Regards
Akash
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Dec 7, 06, 09:24PM
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I signed up with essaywriters.net in order to make a little extra money. With only a small bit of concern for the Karma i might be creating by doing someone else's work for them, i told myself that the karmic debt was on those who sought this assistance, and that i would essentially be getting "their education." Learning is always something i'm interested in. So i dove in with the best of intentions.
I am now convinced that i have been a victim of fraud, and am kicking myself, and wondering if i brought this on myself for being part of a system that encourages students to obtain their education and degrees without having to earn them. I worked hard for mine, and it is insulting and ethically questionable if i think about it too much.
I am currently in a battle with essaywriters.net regarding their reprehensible practices. I began writing for them in September, and now, 3 months later, i am profoundly sorry i ever signed up. Among the numerous complaints i have are:
>They allow customers to send papers back for revision an endless amount of time, and will dock the writer's pay for that--
--and each time this has happened to me, it has been because the customer wanted something that was not in the original description and then expected me to read his mind. Once, when the customer kept adding things to the rewriting that was not asked for in the first place, he eventually became belligerent and began insulting me. The customer's money was refunded, and i lost $78 of pay for work i did correctly and before the deadline.
>they NEVER respond to writer's questions,
>they NEVER have anyone on the other end of the phone line who speaks English very well,
>and these phone-people cannot understand anything i have tried to tell them.
>They promise to do things they don't do, like give you bonuses.
>they don't pay you the accurate amount you earned, and even post some of your pay to a pay period in the future
>they dock your pay for things that are THEIR fault,
>their online staff is obviously foreign and/or uneducated, as none of them can compose an English sentence that makes much sense, and the spelling, grammatical errors and punctuation are all absolutely embarrassing on a site that is supposed to be about professional writers.
Since you can't file against an employer with the Better Business Bureau (I tried), then all you can do is post to the forums and hope to save some other writer the heartache. I emailed the Attorney General of Virginia, which is supposedly one of the offices of essaywriters.net. I have yet to hear back. There is apparently no legal recourse since it would be prohibitively expensive to go after them, and find out who they are, and if they are even American--which, it seems, they are not.
I will probably have to kiss that $366 they owe me, goodbye.
WRITERS BEWARE.
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Edited by: Amy1978 Dec 7, 06, 09:48PM
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They are criminals who are based in UKRAINE! They are seasoned con-artists who know that writers are virtually powerless in getting justice.
They also own BestEssays.com, SuperiorPapers.com, DissertationsExperts.com, RushEssays.com, BestTermPaper.com, Killer-Content.com, ResumesExperts.com, etc.
Here is their FAKE American address:
Universal Research LLC
11654 Plaza America Drive, #365
Reston, VA 20190-4700
They are located in KIEV, UKRAINE, not Virginia. That address above is completely fake, which I have personally confirmed by calling a neighboring business on Plaza America Drive in Virginia! The neighboring business has never heard of "Universal Research," which is supposedly right next door.
See, what these foreign criminals do is search the Internet for actual addresses in the United States that they believe sound "American." And what better than an address that actually INCLUDES the word, "America"? These Ukrainian crooks think they are smart, but they are as stupid as stupid gets.
More facts about EssayWriters.net fraud:
essayfraud.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=275
They make a living ripping off writers! Why do writers keep falling for it? I just don't understand. Do you writers not investigate a "company" online before becoming an employee? NEVER write for a company before getting extensive background information! I can't believe I even have to state this stuff--it's common sense.
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Dec 7, 06, 11:26PM
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Many people have to know about them and they don't advertise on major sites that deal with writers because someone will blow their cover. The thing about them is they are doing a third world business where they pay some, and they rip off some, because I've heard a few writers saying that they are paying. Their work also suffers and I've heard that too. They just pass whatever they get from unqualified writers to the students. One company I know of that's run by writers is essaysareon.com and they are good in everything from what I saw and from what others are saying. They write for businesses too. You should give them a try.
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Edited by: Akash Dec 8, 06, 12:03AM
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I second jaebaeli's observation. They owe me $552 plus. Just one question to Jaebaeli: "Have you ever been paid by them?"
Yesterday I threatened them with dire consequence when someone from their side wrote, "your orders are getting negative feedbacks and so your payment's been put on hold", the moments later after my lashing, they came up with "Your salaries are being investigated..."
But by now I'm lost on my mission to convince these people about good business; and I'm on the lookout of their hideout by all means, be it in Ukraine or Alaska. Folks, if we organize ourselves for such a thing, we can surely do that. There are ways.
It's now easy to understand that those who're claiming to have received payment from them are only the crooks from their rank.
Lamenting bounces back on you only, fighting makes you surging forward. Let's fight a real fight.
If you wish we can start from the universities and colleges globally, even if that requires identifying the students who used this service. What do you think?
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Edited by: Amy1978 Dec 8, 06, 12:46AM
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I really hate it when a site owner assumes a false identity in order to whore his site.
Essaysareon.com may be the ugliest site I've ever seen. And what's up with the ghetto popup?
Considering that it is a brand new, PR0 site, and I've never heard of it (believe me, I'm on top of things), the only person who would know about it and shamelessly promote it would be the owner. That's you, Allen (goodinfo).
Domain Name: essaysareon.com
Registered at http://www.dynadot.com
Registrant:
Allen Bailey
506 Pandora St.
Victoria, BC V8W 1N6
Canada
Administrative Contact:
Allen Bailey
506 Pandora St.
Victoria, BC V8W 1N6
Canada
patchscript@mail-central.com
+1 250 361 3310
Technical Contact:
Allen Bailey
506 Pandora St.
Victoria, BC V8W 1N6
Canada
patchscript@mail-central.com
+1 250 361 3310
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Dec 9, 06, 12:00AM
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I understand your suspicions but such work as this - so long as one works intelligently - allows one to think and earn extra-institutionally - and the gravity of this is immense to a writer whose desires are original. To establish and maintain an academic career would be for me by far the most cowardly, the easiest choice. Have you ever asked the company you use to consider only PhD-qualified candidates?
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Dec 9, 06, 12:04AM
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Please excuse me, that was meant to be a reply to an earlier post:
"Dylan: I'd be amazed if a real PhD holder was writing essays for students but I suppose it is possible if the job market was poor wherever they were living, or if their home circumstances meant that they were unable to work in a more regular position."
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Dec 9, 06, 05:57PM
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Ioannis,
You should not be surprised to hear that PhD holder is writing essays for students - being academic and being rich are, generally speaking, antonyms. Academic have to work a lot but earn very little. However they are also humans, they want to eat well, go out and etc. Essay-writing is a good source of money – well paid (if you work for a reputable company) and your academic colleague will never find out about this part of your life! :-)
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Dec 9, 06, 06:27PM
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No, no; I'm not surpised at all: I do have a PhD and am considering writing essays for some extra money. The quotation in my last response is of an early post by Dylan. For what it's worth, I was offering reassurance. Thank you very much though for your response; I agree of course, being one among and thus of the impoverished...
'O Miseratour? My syntax too! There's too much involution!'
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Dec 12, 06, 01:19PM
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On EssayWriters.net:
Here are some things that concern me:
1. They make believe they do not understand what you are saying so that your questions never get answered. This can happen either when speaking with them over the phone or when posting a message to them on their site.
2. Their rules and directions are deliberately not clear so that if there is any question they can rule according to what suits them best.
3. In the initial phase of signing up, the deal was that you had to provide your SS# if you had made $600 or more for the year so that you would have to file income taxes and they would report your income to the IRS. Now, just a few days before I am supposed to get my first check, they issue a posting on the front page of their site that says that all US citizens must provide their SS#s to get paid regardless of amount of money that they are owed.
4. They have extended the date to get paid and say that they are combining the pay for the months of December and January. From an accounting standpoint this sounds foolish enough since the pay periods will run across 2006 and 2007. For a legitimate company this would pose a problem in accurate record keeping; for a company that is illegitimate it could possibly hide some income that it does not wish to report.
5. I have a problem with rules changing in the middle of the game. When a legitimate company changes policy there is notice given. Any monies that are owed under the current policy would be paid according to the existing rules. The new policy would be implemented at a date before which those that did not agree would be able to withdraw their services without penalty.
I will be very surprised if they pay me but I am going to pursue this to see that they are out of business if they prove to be the scammers I think they are.
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Dec 12, 06, 10:46PM
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I've been working for them since October and they're yet to pay anything to me, though my records are pretty straight. I have payments pending for the months of November, December and January. And now this announcement... Okay, let's see..
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Dec 15, 06, 01:32PM
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Akash,
That is just terrible, Akash. Let's see if I get paid from the 20th to the 22nd of December when they now say that they are going to pay the full amounts for both months. I am going to get to the bottom of this, and if everyone cooperates, we can put them out of business.
Thanks for your feedback and please be sure to keep me posted.
Sue
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Dec 18, 06, 10:02AM
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That is one way but I also think we should send this story to the news media. I have sent it in ot Anderson Cooper at CNN. I plan to also send it in to other people and maybe this should go to Oprah too.
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Dec 19, 06, 08:51AM
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Onedr...
I gave a thought to it and also decided to wait and watch till the last week of December, seeing the proceedings from their point of view, that there may really be some problems in execution. In fact I still can't believe that people can stoop to that level of meanness, considering their systematic approach to the business. I also believe that people cannot belong to that lower order of intelligence of relying on new writers off and on; because that would always embroil them with one problem to the other. I'm still hoping for the best. Thanks for the solidarity you've shown.
Akash
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Dec 22, 06, 10:34AM
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Dear Onedr. and others who are already victimized by essaywriters.net,
It's two hours from their self-pronounced deadline, and I haven't received any money from them. Please state your experience here first. Then I have a plan to execute. Act quick, please.
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Dec 22, 06, 10:53AM
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Hi Akash and Onedr! I am also a new writer for essaywriters.net and I am also waiting for the payment due to arrive on the 20th to the 22nd of December. I have not received word about the payment from them yet, although there are still a few hours left according to their deadline.
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Dec 22, 06, 04:23PM
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Hello all.
I have been sending a request for payment through paypal to essaywriters everyday for the last week. I have of course had numerous contacts with them via email and as explained in my previous posts. I have not been paid and they stopped communicating with me some time ago.
I filed a complaint with Bad Business Bureau URL(since i couldn't at BETTER Business Bureau because they don't accept employer complaints). I asked an attorney on Law Guru and i reported it to the Attorney General of VA (where essaywriters says they have an office). I have also posted to other writers sites. I am behind any actions that include angry villagers burning them at the stake.....but It's important to realize that since they are most likely NOT on American soil, we have no recourse legally. All we can do is get the word out and perhaps enlist the media, who can sometimes pursue things over country boundaries. And we can hope to make this information COMMON KNOWLEDGE in the writing community, so that they will not be able to find any American writers who will work for them and be fooled by their promises.
Feel free to let me know what i can do to help.
Jae
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Dec 22, 06, 04:36PM
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i guess the problem with essaywriter is not the quality of their work but payments on there writers........i have read many post and all of them are not complaining bout the quality but almost everyone are complaining of late payments and unjust treatment of writers....
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Edited by: Amy1978 Dec 22, 06, 05:37PM
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Karen, that's because consumers do not buy from "essaywriters.net". Consumers buy from essaywriters.net's Ukrainian end user sites, like SuperiorPapers.com and BestEssays.com. Both are complete garbage, and there are many complaints online. For example:
essayfraud.org/forum/index.php?showforum=23
http://retributions.wordpress.com/2006/09/11/outsource-those-papers/
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Dec 22, 06, 08:52PM
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oh , anyway there are companies with good and bad writers........i guess essaywriter.net is really a scam , I don't like to my cousin work in such environment were complaints and scam are massive, we are really glad of this forum....we got to know the real score bout this scam .......anyway am glad my cousin is working in a good company now uvocorp.com........although she is an ESL writer atleast i know she is right for the job, she graduated *** laude and have a master degree in English and now she is taking up her Ph.D in a very reputable school here.....I guess she must really be careful on scammer's like essaywriter.net ...we are really glad that she didn't write anything on that academic institution before we find out bout this essayscam.org.........anyway thanks for all info.........it help a lot.......
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Dec 22, 06, 08:58PM
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Pakistani's are indeed good in scamming ............i talk to some Pakistani's and a lot of them are doing bizarre businesses.....and they don't care if they can hurt anyone ...they are just glad that they can harm someone.......they just laugh at it....that's what I hate bout them actually......
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Dec 23, 06, 02:56AM
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I guess this is the same bunch of people who are operating from the same place with two-fold streams of websites, one for the writers and one for the students/clients. Today's only 23rd.. I'm working on it, but thanks to the spirits of you all, especially Amy, who's relentless in her effort.
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Dec 23, 06, 04:09PM
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Hi all!
I really want to know desperately if anyone of you have recieved the due payments from essaywriters.net that were supposed to be made out latest by 22nd? I still haven't, and when I asked them, they told me that they want to check my papers for plagiarism first, only after which they will come to any conclusion on regards to my payments! This is totally awful and at the same time disgusting! I owe them over $1500, which really means A LOT to me, and I am sure as it will to anyone else here! All the customers were satisfied with my work, they all appreciated it. I got excellent surveys for most of them, and most importantly, people at essaywriters got the money from the customer, and now when it comes to paying writers for their day and night efforts, they are making those sick excuses? How on earth can that be justified? Can anyone respond?
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Dec 23, 06, 05:19PM
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Why does anyone continue to work for essaywriters.net? Do you guys like being ripped off? When will people learn?
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Edited by: pineapple123 Dec 24, 06, 03:27AM
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Hi Karen,
Seeing your hatred towards Pakistanis, I feel really bad. I can't decide if that's your hatred or misunderstanding regarding Pakistanis. I am a Pakistani myself, and I know, so does my God, that I can really never find pleasure in hurting anyone. Nor is it that I don't care if I am trying to harm someone, unless I am doing it unintentionally. Working for websites like essaywriters is my need, and believe me the payrate they have for their writers might sound cheap to you, but for people living in India or Pakistan, its totally fine. As far as being an ESL writer is concerned, I will definitely agree to it that I am an ESL writer. But I am being honest on my part, because my employer knows what country I belong to. They are cheating on their part if they write wrong information about their writers on their websites. How then is it fair for anyone to abuse us? It is these websites who are to be blamed.
Coming back to myself, I have been writing papers for years now. I won't say I write excellent papers, but their quality is satisfactory. My customers are usually satisfied, which keeps me satisfied too. I know it is unethical, but as soon as the students start realizing this themselves, and stop ordering papers, we will too, automatically stop writing papers for them.
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Dec 24, 06, 09:12AM
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I am not against any ESL writer whatsover but I am against some Pakistani's who do such stuff....actually I am not pointing on everyone .......but I have really seen some awful stuff made by them and they really laugh on it when they can hurt someone....I swear its a fact........how come this page is still existing???I mean what will gonna happen?? is there anyway we can stop essaywriter from using people for their own advantages???
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Dec 24, 06, 09:36AM
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I totally understand and respect your opinion. But what I believe is, it is not fair to judge the entire nation by just considering a few examples.
Anyway, my point is, ESL writers should not be the ones to be blamed by anyone, because we all are being honest on our part as we are not hiding our information from our employers. We have a direct agreement with them, not with the customers. It is their responsibility to be honest on their part with customers.
We're performing our task and duty with full loyalty and devotion. This is where our "role" ends. Rest is between the company and the customers.
Besides, why should only writers be the ones to be called cheaters? What are the customers doing themselves ? We're only earning money, while they are earning their degree and whole career by cheating.
If anyone of you have noticed, in many paper selling websites, they clearly write it in their agreement or policy (whatever), that they are providing the papers only as a means of help to get better ideas for the topic and as an example as to how a professional paper is supposed to be written. They don't have any intentions to let the customers pass it off to their professors as their own work. Who do you think is cheating here? It's the customers again.
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Dec 24, 06, 09:48AM
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Joined: Dec 24, 06
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Akash and others that have been poting. Sorry, I forgot my password so had to make a new name. It is "onedrflday" here. I made the new name as close to the old one as possible.
I have not been paid by them. We need to do something. Please email me directly at onedrflday2day@yahoo.com
We can discuss some ideas.
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