| Amy1978 |
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Apr 15, 07, 01:12AM
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You two are such bed buddies. Pathetic.
I was here before you, and I'll be here after you.
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Apr 15, 07, 01:18AM
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http://www.essayscam.org/Forum/9_94_19.html#msg2140
Admin, what did I tell you? When he gets caught, he lies. Same person.
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| rat289 |
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Apr 15, 07, 01:19AM
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Boy keeping up with you is turning into a full-time job... now you're going at mach speed... did we hit a nerve honey? Happens when you're outed... don't worry, you'll calm down and get back to trying to prove them crooks with no evidence.
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Apr 15, 07, 01:24AM
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Hey, why don't you open another fake username?
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| rat289 |
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Apr 15, 07, 01:28AM
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Quoting: Amy1978, Post #404 Hey, why don't you open another fake username?
Careful sweetheart... proving she and I are different ppl is very easy to do... don't you think you've commited enough libel in one thread?
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Apr 15, 07, 01:31AM
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Don't you worry, rat. You'll be hearing from one of my legal friends, as well.
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Apr 15, 07, 01:36AM
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Ok, I'll put on some coffee... he'd have to be as delusional as you to think I've stepped out of line.
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Apr 15, 07, 01:40AM
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Don't worry. He's going to review every word in every one of your posts. You wanted a war; you've got one.
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Apr 15, 07, 01:43AM
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No problem. I stand by every word. If you want send me an email and I'll give ya my contact info so he can get ahold of me... I"ll be waiting... now go seek trouble elsewhere honey... I wish you knew what I do and what I really think about your real place in all this...
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Apr 15, 07, 02:23AM
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Quoting: rat289, Post #377 Quoting: pious, Post #375 As I have stated 1,000,000 times previously, my position has NOTHING--now, open your eyes and READ--to do with prejudice, racism, or geography. If I were "racist," I'd admit such.
Hey Rat, I made NO such post (# 375). What happened here?
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Apr 15, 07, 02:29AM
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Have no idea pious, looked back at the post and the word document I proofed the post in, Amy wrote that, I quoted it from her post and the heading did say "Quoting: Amy,...".
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Apr 15, 07, 02:50AM
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Quoting: rat289, Post #409 I wish you knew what I do and what I really think about your real place in all this... Please, enlighten me.
By the way, thanks for the email admitting your reasoning for attacking me.
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Apr 15, 07, 02:51AM
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Quoting: rat289, Post #377 Pious, I get all bent out of shape whenever somebody is passing false information about anything, one or business. Writer's love to argue, just one of my personality traits as my jumping in posting this shows. And I agree with you; this was a nasty debate and I shouldn't have let myself to be drawn into it. When I saw the nasty way she talked to ESL writers I was angered; that sort of prejudice shouldn't be left unchecked.
If it's just the ESL thing, why go to all the trouble of engaging in a very lengthy, below-the-belt diatribe about Essaywriters.net's LLC and all? Just focus on your pro-ESL arguments as needed.
It just seems too good to be true of any disinterested person to zealously come to the defense of the business aspect of that site. I have a mind of my own and I don't need Amy to tell me what appears right or credible. If you're associated with the site, there should be nothing wrong with admitting it and starting your check on Amy's supposed prejudice against ESL writers from that point. You would even come out cleaner and this forum thread, more pleasant to read.
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Apr 15, 07, 03:10AM
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pious, this guy has an agenda. He has created multiple usernames over the last few days, solely to attack me, one of the main detractors of EssayWriters.net. He has invested countless hours defending EssayWriters.net to the death. He'll have you believe that he has no affiliation with EssayWriters.net, however. He's just a concerned citizen who can't stand my textual "racism" against ESL writers. Conveniently, he ignores my repeated explanations of my stance, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with race or color. EssayWriters.net uses ESL writers to bait-and-switch American consumers. THAT'S my problem.
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Apr 15, 07, 03:52AM
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Quoting: pious, Post #413 If it's just the ESL thing, why go to all the trouble of engaging in a very lengthy, below-the-belt diatribe about Essaywriters.net's LLC and all? Just focus on your pro-ESL arguments as needed. It just seems too good to be true of any disinterested person to zealously come to the defense of the business aspect of that site. I have a mind of my own and I don't need Amy to tell me what appears right or credible. If you're associated with the site, there should be nothing wrong with admitting it and starting your check on Amy's supposed prejudice against ESL writers from that point. You would even come out cleaner and this forum thread, more pleasant to read.
My last post on this topic. I bring it all when I take a stand. You can take it however you want. In the end, I passed on no false information and dispelled a great deal of lies and half-truths. I've made the public aware of an untruth and provided them with the truth. That's what I do. That in itself is reward enough for me. I'm sorry you haven't met a person that is passionate about truth and fairness; I assure you we are out there.
You may have your own mind and can make up your own mind, others aren't so capible. My friend Kissncook, for example, contacted me yesterday about this forum; she did believe Amy and her lies and half-truths. Others in this thread have also stated they believed Amy till I jumped in. Like I've stated in the past, I've laid it all out there and Amy hasn't, we still don't know the reason for the level of anger she has toward these types of sites and their foreign owners. It never was about exposing Amy's prejudice, that emanated organically from the debate. Even now, in the end, she's trying to use misdirection to gain support and pull attention away from her shattered case.
I speak of the email she's talking about. That email was sent before this debate even got off the ground. It was the result of a few comments I made to rattle her cage because of the way she was talking down to ESL writers on this site. She would have you believe it was something that would make all my words untrue when in fact is was nothing more than a note to her to not take it (the picking on her about her comments before this all started) personally, that I was just busting her chops. Taking her comment in that light how could you or anyone else for that matter believe she is being anything but biased?
As to the implications that I'm affiliated with Essay Writers, all I can say is other than applying to be a writer for the purpose of investigating them I have no vested interest in them. I have no problems posting proof of my earnings and where it came from for Amy to inspect till her heart's content. I doubt Amy would do the same; she wouldn't even tell us the reason for her anger. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that she was employed by a competitor of Essay Writers and other foreign essay providing companies.
If I truly was being dishonest in any way shape or form I would've laid out the argument that she was a shill for an American based company. However, I hold myself to a higher standard than she does. I don't make claims I can't support with real evidence. Believe me I'd love to have the proof and perhaps my continued look toward Amy will net some. The simple fact of the matter remains, there is no proof of that or that she is vested in this site. There have been some "oddities" I've noticed. I can't find one post I put up yesterday. The issue with her quote which now shows as your quote piours. Post numbers don't match on a couple of post quotes. I'm not sure what it all means but rest assured I will get to the bottom of it.
In any event I am done with this. Amy can spin and twist herself to rapture for all I care. Between my arguments on this subject and another member's "trap" she has been shown not only to be a liar but incompetent too - what she calls research just can't be trusted.
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Apr 15, 07, 04:04AM
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Blah, blah, blah, blah . . . blah.
My name is RAT, and I'm a rich screenplay writer who spends 10 hours per day defending a company for no vested reason whatsoever. I just like to argue and defend deceptive business practices. Isn't that normal?
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Apr 15, 07, 04:05AM
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Quoting: Amy1978, Post #414 pious, this guy has an agenda. He has created multiple usernames over the last few days, solely to attack me, one of the main detractors of EssayWriters.net. He has invested countless hours defending EssayWriters.net to the death. He'll have you believe that he has no
One last word because I didn't see this post: Amy, you are trying to pass off your feelings as fact. If this is true where is your proof? Why isn't it posted with your outrageous claim? I assure you I have better things to do than create user names to attack you; I think I've done a pretty good job without other ID's.
I have never met someone who is willing to put forth so much effort to defend something that has been proven a lie with hard, solid evidence. Keep trying to discredit me Amy. It still isn't going to change the facts. It still isn't going to change the legal definition of fraud. It still isn't going to change the fact that you LIED about the LLC. It still doesn't change the fact that you've done NO research what so ever. It still doesn't change the fact that you have NO evidence to support just about every claim or argument you've made.
IF you're going to post lies about me you had better be able to back them up with proof and not just your feelings. I'm not cowering in the dark like you are. Check me out all you want. Here's the link to my myspace page:
[url=www.myspace.com/rat289]www.myspace.com/rat289[/url]
There you go. Completely out in the open. I challenge you to do the same. I dare you. WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?
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Apr 15, 07, 04:21AM
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Quoting: rat289, Post #415 I'm sorry you haven't met a person that is passionate about truth and fairness; I assure you we are out there.
I'm not really part of yours and Amy's issues but hey, don't feel sorry for me because I sure have met crusaders for truth and fairness. I really do not have to say this but I where I am, I associate with that kind because I myself am passionate not only about truth and fairness but as well, about principles. While some folks would do stand up for an underdog or oppressed business entity, isn't it a fact that many posters here accused Essaywriters of not paying up or of holding writers' payments? But then again, it seemed the site eventually paid some of the complaining writers.
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Edited by: Amy1978 Apr 15, 07, 04:26AM
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I lied about the LLC, hah? Anyone can go to BizFilings.com and START an LLC within 30 minutes. I've done it myself, moron--that's how I know about it!
For anyone who may doubt me, here's the link:
http://www.bizfilings.com/products/llc.asp
Sorry, but only crazy people post their contact info in message boards. For the record, Rat is 38-year-old man who makes MySpace pages. Sad.
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Apr 15, 07, 04:31AM
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Quoting: Amy1978, Post #419 I lied about the LLC, hah? Anyone can go to BizFilings.com and START an LLC within 30 minutes. I've done it myself, moron--that's how I know about it! For anyone who may doubt me, here's the link: http://www.bizfilings.com/products/llc.aspFor the record, Rat is 38-year-old man who makes MySpace pages. Wow.
NO, you lied when you said they didn't have an LLC on file, stop twisting the facts dear.
I don't make myspace pages for a living, I merely have a myspace page to keep up with my daughters. Again your lack of research rears it's ugly head, my means of income is in one of my older blogs... just like your claims against Essay Writers you looked at two pages, you clicked twice on my page... on probably my pic, and you passed judgement... so now you've made another flase, misleading comment... my god how do you keep track of all your stories?
Also thanks to my page tracker I now have the city and state you live in. There are a lot of Essay companys in your state. I also know your state is filled with people with dreams of show bizz... is that what made you so angry in life... couldn't make the cut?
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Apr 15, 07, 04:34AM
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Quoting: Amy1978, Post #439 Sorry, but only crazy people post their contact info in message boards. For the record, Rat is 38-year-old man who makes MySpace pages. Sad.
Forgot something. Not crazy people, smart people trying to locate someone. See I'm trying to build a case showing you either associated with this site or a competitor of those you're making false claims against... in order to do so I needed your location. Now, I will be able to find your name and compare it with public records and such... THAT'S what you call research honey. If you weren't hiding anything you'd have no problem coming out... I'll find what it is... I always do.
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Apr 15, 07, 04:35AM
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More lies. I stated that I "would love to see their articles of incorporation."
Do you make a mountain out of a molehill every chance you get? Don't blame me because you posted your ugly-ass MySpace page.
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Apr 15, 07, 04:37AM
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RAT, you want to delve into people's personal lives? Think really hard before you answer this question.
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Apr 15, 07, 04:46AM
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oh and I almost forgot... did you notice kissncook on there? yeah, she's a real live person, not me under another user name.... so sad, too bad... another amy lie exposed!
Quoting: Amy1978, Post #422 More lies. I stated that I "would love to see their articles of incorporation." Do you make a mountain out of a molehill every chance you get? Don't blame me because you posted your ugly-ass MySpace page.
NO Amy. You came right out and said you called and the neighbor and the man said there was no company registered at that address with the name... shoot, I forget the name already it had the word research in it but you get the point... in the end they are registered at that address.... keep going... keep it up. Ugly myspace page? I like my page... don't pick on it... :)
Quoting: Amy1978, Post #423 RAT, you want to delve into people's personal lives? Think really hard before you answer this question.
Not going after your personal life Amy, just your professional life and dealings because if you are affiliated with this site or the competition to those companies you are acting in an unethical manner and are subject to civil action and I will be leading the charge to bring you to court. I use only legal, ethical tactics in my investigations so if you're not hiding anything you have nothing to worry about from me... but if you are... get your checkbook ready... that is if you even have any money at all... and of course if you're an adult... if you're a minor then things get a little more tricky... ;)
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Edited by: Amy1978 Apr 15, 07, 04:54AM
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What a big man you are . . . .
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Apr 15, 07, 04:42PM
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I think it's important that the final product (in this case an academic essay) is written in good English. ESL writers may not be able to assure that. If the only reason a company hires an ESL writer is that they pay him/her less than an American writer, it should be noted on their websites somewhere.
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Apr 15, 07, 04:54PM
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Amy thou I dont understand everyhting that is the problem between you and these other poelpe i do know that you are not the kin of person you must seem to be always on from off your letters. since you sais to me that i cant spell i am trying harder and in this you have been a very kind help yto me so far hbut in yuo r lettewrs that you posted today you aewe a but nauty anout the rat mam. are you calling him to be fat and if so why. i don't think its relivant at all and sometimes i canvery insulted! all of trhese other points about law aswell i will be willing to back you up if you want me to because you have been VERY NICE to me i find dispite the things you say becazuse i can always feel you heart beating behind your loud breathing as my mother used to tell me when i was very angry. you are always angry to me and you must be very sad i think. if you want you can email me and i will always answer you if you need me to. dispite my having only a small brain as you must think my i have a big heart and am intuitive. don't be sad amy because i think you must be very nice deep down inside where it matters and where the light can never reach if you undrrstand me. i will message you on another forum just in case you dontg et this.
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Apr 15, 07, 05:20PM
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ACTUALLY AMY I WILL NEVER SPEAK TO YOU AGIAN! you are not funny when you say dont let the door hit you on the way out and this like go milk a goat becuas that mena syou are intollarant, there was a time when my farther used to work on a goat and it was the best thing for him he always said. when my mother used to say that he would always come home from work smelling of goat and that she used to love hom even more for it becase even though he would be too tirded to do anything she coukld see how much he would exert himself when he was at work and so she would say to us that this is how a man would behave and then put her hand son on face and give him a playful slap if you understand me becaus eshe was very proud to be married to a man who would get stuck in for his family. I remeber a time when my father was shouted at in town becasue he of they would NEVER DO SUCH DIRTYU THINGS they said but my farthere would simile at us and say each man was like the foundation of his own empaire and that we should not be afraid if we had to put our hand s into shadow because if our intentionsa re good then we will always be safe from moral danger. so there is nothing wrong with this and in fact i think this foriegn girl you layghed at is the bigger man so to speak beacause she didn't tlak back to you and your maen comments. I NEVER KNEW that was how you are and i see now that you are not the kin of girl i thought. So pLease rtell me that you didn;t mean this hings becaus eI will be very sad to think that you are so mean. Be CAREFUL Am,y because those things that go arund come around and it already seems that your judgement is coming and the semantron fallen on to your black attitudes.
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Apr 15, 07, 07:04PM
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Quoting: Notonyourlife, Post #427 since you sais to me that i cant spell i am trying harder and in this you have been a very kind help yto me so far hbut in yuo r lettewrs that you posted
Notonyourlife, I say this not to insult you but to advise you, in case you didn't know. As a fellow bad speller, I would suggest you draft your posts in MS Word or other word processing program which has spell check. That way when you're done you can correct the spelling and just copy and paste it into your post.
Also see if you can get your hands on a little program called Word Web. That way when you have a question about a word and its meaning you can just copy it into Wordweb and it gives you the meaning. It would also be a could way to further your writing skills as it will expand your vocabulary.
Hope this helps you out some.
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Apr 15, 07, 08:20PM
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Quoting: rat289, Post #424 Not going after your personal life Amy, just your professional life and dealings because if you are affiliated with this site or the competition to those companies you are acting in an unethical manner and are subject to civil action and I will be leading the charge to bring you to court.
Is this for real admin? What if Rat is indeed affiliated with Essaywriters? Can Amy likewise bring up similar charges against him?
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Apr 15, 07, 08:52PM
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Quoting: pious, Post #430 Is this for real admin? What if Rat is indeed affiliated with Essaywriters? Can Amy likewise bring up similar charges against him?
No pious for one main reason; even IF I were affiliated I never used false information in an attempt to prevent anyone from doing legal legitamate business...
If it turns out her motives are as such she's got some serious legal issues, not to mention a huge void of ethics.
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Apr 15, 07, 09:34PM
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Thread closed. Personal issues should not be discussed in public. You may use the email feature to carry on private conversations if needed.
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