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Edited by: Slacker Nov 16, 11, 09:41PM
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The writer I had did not fully follow my instructions for my research paper. I asked him for a rewrite and he refused to do so. The writer told me that he included everything I asked for. This is true, but it wasn't 3 full pages of that particular topic. Instead the writer included information that wasn't relevant to the topic, as if he just wanted to fill the pages. Its almost like asking a waiter for a drink and he comes back with a quarter filled cup with lots of ice. Technically he gave you the drink you asked for but, you expected a full cup(relevant) and not all the ice(irrelevant). This is what I call a rip-off. So I ordered two more pages and left specific instructions for the writer. Again, the writer include little of what I wanted and the rest of the paper was irrelevant information. The writer was obviously not an expert on that topic, otherwise he would have been able to produce a lot more information. His argument was that he's hired as a writer to provide a "general research template". I did not pay close to 200$ for a stupid template. When I went to customer support, they told me he included what I wanted. I then asked why did the writer include information I did not ask for, they replied with the same answer. I was sitting there trying to explain that he provide little information and filled the rest of the paper with irrelevant information, but I was stuck in their loop of answers.
So if you need someone to write a detailed essay/research paper for you, don't rely on essaytown/academon. It's not worth all that money.
But I suppose they're good for a "general research template".
*wait for the essaytown writers to attack my thread in 3...2...1*
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Edited by: WritersBeware Nov 16, 11, 10:02PM
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Slacker: *wait for the essaytown writers to attack my thread in 3...2...1* Ah, so with that smartass jab, you expect people to believe that you are a legitimate customer of the company? Right.
Post a copy of the exact specs that you provided to the company and the paper that you received to prove your claims. If you can't/won't do that, just shut the f up.
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| Slacker |
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Nov 16, 11, 10:07PM
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I actually visited this website before I chose the company to write for me. I noticed people like you defending essaytown.com. So I thought the website was legit.
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| pheelyks |
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Nov 16, 11, 10:09PM
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What was your order number?
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| Slacker |
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Nov 16, 11, 10:13PM
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A2047181
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| pheelyks |
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Nov 16, 11, 10:19PM
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And what did your paper consist of if not the information you requested?
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Nov 16, 11, 10:25PM
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WritersBeware: Post a copy of the exact specs that you provided to the company and the paper that you received to prove your claims. If you can't/won't do that, just shut the f up. Still waiting . . . .
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Edited by: Slacker Nov 16, 11, 10:42PM
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WritersBeware, Why should I go all out just to prove that I'm a customer?? If anything, you writers should be re-writing my paper. I've provided my order# and its legit.
pheelyks It consisted of information I wanted, but not enough information to fill the number pages I asked for. The rest of the page were filled with unrelated information.
ex. I asked for information about a particular bacteria and how it functions. The writer writes little on it and the rest of the pages are about bio-warfare....
I need to sleep, I'll be back tomorrow.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Nov 16, 11, 10:51PM
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OK, why don't you simply post a copy of one of your supposed messages to ET in which you specifically state what is wrong and how you want it fixed?
Slacker: WritersBeware, Why should I go all out just to prove that I'm a customer?? You "go all out" to publish irresponsible, libelous threads that can and will get you sued by multiple companies (why you involved Academon—a completely unrelated company—is beyond me, but will be your legal downfall) if not removed, but you don't have the balls to post information that is at your fingertips in order to prove that you are not a liar?
Again:
WritersBeware: Post a copy of the exact specs that you provided to the company and the paper that you received to prove your claims. If you can't/won't do that, just shut the f up. Post this information so that people can judge whether or not you are lying and/or not posting both sides of the story.
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Edited by: FreelanceWriter Nov 17, 11, 12:34AM
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It's impossible to know whether or not your complaint is justified without seeing the specs you provided. In any case, a legitimate dispute about the specs and the work isn't a "rip off" by any means. Rip-off sites don't furnish any paper after receiving your money or furnish totally plagiarized or previously-written work for your money.
We get ridiculous requests for rewrites all the time. Not saying yours is necessarily ridiculous, but here's two recent examples of rewrite requests for me that we could not honor:
1. Customer orders 3 pages and the specs clearly say "Please write a 500-wd essay..." I provide an essay that's exactly 500 words, which means I spent time checking the word count as I was writing and then edited it down to fit the specs.
Rewrite request because he ordered 3 pages and got less than 2 full pages of writing. The website clearly says you get about 275-300 wds/pg. If your specs say 500 words and I write a full 3 pages, I'm stuck having to fix it if you request a rewrite because you specified 500 words and not 850-900. The ordering system is automatic and if you order more pages than you need for the specs you provide, that's not my problem and not my responsibility to fix. Same as when you order the big salad when it turns out you're only hungry enough for the regular salad. Next time just order the right number of pages and don't provide specs that contradict the page count because we have to follow the specs and nobody has time to hold your hand and make sure that you know how many pages you need when all the info necessary to figure it out is right there for you. No rewrite.
2. Customer says "Answer the questions in the faxed file." No mention of how many questions there are. The file is formatted like an online forum with 2 questions, each one is right over a text box provided for the answer. Specs for 2-pg order request 175 words per answer which also requires time to track while writing and to edit down. The file also has another sentence above the 2 questions that both correspond to text boxes. It's not in the form of a question and it's formatted differently and without any corresponding text box. It's also much more general than the 2 questions and seems to be a statement about the entire assignment. There's also a case study file to read. The case study also has questions at the end that are similar but not the same as the file questions and there are 4 or 5 of them.
Customer complains that I only answered 2 questions. I respond that it's your assignment so you should make the effort to format the questions clearly and tell us how many questions there are at least. (At this point, the customer's attitude is what's going to determine whether I do more than I'm strictly required to since it's her mistake and I already spent the time making sure the word count is right, etc.) Customer responds with an attitude...she paid for 3 questions, it's my fault, "how do I contact the owner?" yada, yada. The customer also said that I shoud have known what questions to answer because they were also in the case study. That means she never even bothered to read the cases study questions because the questions were definitely NOT "the same" at all. The lack of consideration in not taking the 2 seconds of your time to just delete the questions that you don't want answered could have wasted a lot of my time, because I might have just answered the questions in the case study instead of the ones in the file. I don't appreciate that lack of consideration or the slighest concern on your part for making sure your order is clear. That also factored into my decision.
Guess what? No rewrite. Next time take the trouble to tell me how many questions there are, OR just number them, OR make sure they're all formatted the same so one of them doesn't look like it's just an explanation of what the entire assignment is about. If you don't care enough to make that tiny effort for the paper I'm writing for you, then I don't care any more than you do and I'm doing whatever honestly seems like the most reasonable thing based on all the info in the order. And if you want your writer to put in the extra time to fix your mistake, ask in a way that sounds like you understand it's your fault and that you realize you're asking for a favor or a courtesy. Ask in a way that's accusatory or obnoxious and you can fix your paper yourself.
Anyway, the point is simply that if we screw up, you get an immediate free rewrite and an apology. If you screw up, you may or may not get a fix depending on what it is and how you ask. If you screw up and you have an attitude about it, it's going to be your problem and not ours. But genuine disagreements about the appropriateness of a rewrite request do not consitute a "scam" or a "rip off" just because you didn't get what you believe you were entitled to.
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| stu4 |
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Nov 17, 11, 05:23PM
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FreelanceWriter: Rewrite request because he ordered 3 pages and got less than 2 full pages of writing. The website clearly says you get about 275-300 wds/pg. If your specs say 500 words and I write a full 3 pages, I'm stuck having to fix it if you request a rewrite because you specified 500 words and not 850-900. The ordering system is automatic and if you order more pages than you need for the specs you provide, that's not my problem and not my responsibility to fix. It clearly showing that you are a fraudulent writer. Client PAID for 3 pages and you conviniently assume he wants less pages. When you see opportunity to scam, you scam clients without a blink on the eye. Shame on you.
FreelanceWriter: Customer complains that I only answered 2 questions. I respond that it's your assignment so you should make the effort to format the questions clearly and tell us how many questions there are at least. You again go the easy ripoff and lazy way. Shame on you.
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Nov 17, 11, 06:07PM
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WritersBeware, I came here to complain about essaytown, not for customer service. I'm already communicating with a customer service representative(Mark) at the moment. If you want information on this case, look up order #A2047181. It funny how customer service is now offering me a re-write. The due date pasted long ago.
"2011-Nov-17 02:06 am by mark # A2047181 Hello *********,
OK, we are making progress now. Please inform us the information that needs to be taken out of this order and the information that you want added to replace it. You are correct, the writer is not a biologist but they do have extensive knowledge in this topic area which is why they were assigned your order.
Mark - SNR"
I've stated what I wanted in the paper from the very beginning. I'm tired of explaining myself. WHY would the writer add extra irrelevant information I never asked for?? And this wasn't just a few sentences, this was paragraphs and paragraphs of stuff I never asked for. If I did not ask for it don't include it. How clear can I make this???
WritersBeware, It seems as though you work for essaytown. Why do you treat customers who have complaints like crap on this site?? As a customer I have every right to be angry with essaytown at this point. You shouldn't be getting angry at customers who feel as though they received poor papers, that's not the way it works. Use your energy to assist them and maybe people might start liking essaytown more.
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| danijelam |
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Nov 17, 11, 06:21PM
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i am very disappointed by essaytown too. i request my essay to be today and still i did not receive but they even told me that writer will finish earlier. So worried if they dont send me at all today.
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| editor75 |
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Nov 17, 11, 06:39PM
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next time, say, "no ice."
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Edited by: WritersBeware Nov 17, 11, 06:47PM
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danijelam: i am very disappointed by essaytown too. i request my essay to be today and still i did not receive but they even told me that writer will finish earlier. So worried if they dont send me at all today. So you're posting a complaint because the company did not deliver early? As I have already stated, you are an idiot.
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| danijelam |
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Nov 17, 11, 06:56PM
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you are idiot...they did not deliver at all. i am not asking to deliver early .they said to not worry paper will be early deliver. what's wrong with you? you should be fair, if is something wrong is wrong
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Edited by: WritersBeware Nov 17, 11, 07:11PM
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danijelam: you are idiot...they did not deliver at all. i am not asking to deliver early .they said to not worry paper will be early deliver. what's wrong with you? you should be fair, if is something wrong is wrong I only know what your dumb ass posted. Wake up! YOU stated that the paper should be delivered TODAY. It is still TODAY, dumbass.
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| danijelam |
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Nov 17, 11, 07:14PM
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you are crazy person....you need help seriously
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Edited by: FreelanceWriter Nov 17, 11, 08:32PM
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stu4: It clearly showing that you are a fraudulent writer. Client PAID for 3 pages and you conviniently assume he wants less pages. When you see opportunity to scam, you scam clients without a blink on the eye. Shame on you.
I didn't "conveniently assume" anything. I've actually had to rewrite orders because the client specified 400 or 500 words in a 2-pg order and I wrote a full 2 pages of about 600 words. Customers order 2 pages or 3 pages and specify that they only want 500 or 750 words all the time. If I deviate from the specs, I can get stuck with a rewrite. There has to be a way of fulfilling the order one way or the other without being liable for a rewrite both ways. Our customers always get the exact number of pages they order and in many cases, they actually end up getting slightly more than they ordered (at least from me) and never less. But when the specs expressly request a specific number of words, we follow that and we don't second-guess the specs based on how many pages were ordered.
If they order 2 pages, they get 2 pages; but if they pre-pay the system for 2 pages and they tell us 250-350 words max (or whatever), they get 350 words and they don't get to change their minds a day later and cause me to stop working on another paper and go back and waste my time working on theirs again just because they just changed their minds or because they didn't know how many words fit on a page when that info is clearly posted on the site they ordered from. The other day I had an order that said the entire paper was supposed to be in "bullet points only" and then I got a rewrite request because he decided that bullet points weren't really appropriate for certain sections of the paper. Rewrite requests like that can't get deleted fast enough.
You know all of this already, of course, and you know there's absolutely no truth to anything you say about me, but I'm just responding for the benefit of anybody else who might take your nonsense and your perpetual false accusations seriously, although I doubt that happens very often here.
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Edited by: Slacker Dec 9, 11, 05:09PM
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Hey guys,
I'm back and I just wanted to say that I'm very pleased with the grade I received on my paper. I think earlier I was paranoid about the grade I would receive based on the material in the paper, since it didn't quite match what I asked for. But I got the paper back and it turns out I got a nice grade for it lol...
I take back all the bad things I said about essaytown : )
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Dec 11, 11, 07:59AM
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what a ******* retard.
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Dec 11, 11, 10:37AM
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I can only assume editor75 is against essaytown. What a childish reply, you need to grow up.
I failed to mention I edited the paper I received, but I'm still very unhappy with the original paper. Like I said, for 200usd, I expect the best.
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Dec 11, 11, 11:20AM
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a fool and his money will always part.
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Dec 11, 11, 12:25PM
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editor75: a fool and his money will always part. A fool like you has no money with which to part.
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Dec 11, 11, 04:03PM
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the more money we come across the more problems we see
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| pheelyks |
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Dec 11, 11, 08:54PM
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What a non-specific platitude.
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Edited by: editor75 Dec 12, 11, 03:50PM
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nom nom I'm a little nom late; let me at em!
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