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Oct 30, 09, 10:21AM
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Melissa's getting more and more irrational, isn't she?
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Oct 30, 09, 10:26AM
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OxbridgeExperts said: "Phleeks - you are an example of a dumb American."
I am arguing that point because by the time he hit 1st Grade, Pheelyks was much more informed and educated than you are now OxbridgeExperts.
We are all aware of the revisionist trend in history but, until you came along, none were unaware that there was a similar movement in linguistics and the sciences. Your posts are filled with grammatical mistakes which you refuse to concede to; your language is convoluted; and you display an innate fondness for verbiage. It is apparent that you believe that educated and cultured people write that way. And it is clear that you have somehow convinced yourself that this is how the British write. I, an American, know better. However, arguing with you is useless as is typical of all ignoramuses, you believe yourself infallible; everyone is wrong and only you are right. You will never learn.
Your so-called `facts' are shockingly fictitious. They persuade no one and your persistent refusal to cite any credible source makes anyone suspect, Melissa, that they are the products of your overactive imagination.
OxbridgeExpert said: "nathraq - I do not debate anything with barely literate, dumb little retards like you."
Had you the comprehension abilities of a 5 year old, you would have realized that Nathraq was not engaging you in a debate. He, or she, was simply requesting the citation of any credible source to support your `facts.'
OxbridgeExpert said: So, about your lies and false and paranoid idea that I am someone called Melissa and am in Australia.
Oxbridge, you are Melissa. You also were Asif4444. Oxbridge, you are Australian, not British. A couple of the expressions you used are distinctly NSW. The proof that you are Melissa? Same mindset and language use. How about your taking the challenge offered by another member and denounce Melissa? Want some more proof? It's in the pudding, Melissa.
Take a look at this -
OxbridgeExpert said: the food in the USA sucks bigtime and consists of fries and fat and carbs and huge portions for pigs.
OxbridgeExperts said: the obese sisters waddling
OxbridgeExpert said: And my god are you FAT! Like real hippos![/quote]
OxbridgeExpert said: disgustingly obese people!
OxbridgeExpert said: Pigland America
OxbridgeExpert said: obese Americans stuffing their fat pig faces with their vile vomit-inducing alleged food.
OxbridgeExpert said: United States of Pigs
OxbridgeExpert said: obese ugly cretins
OxbridgeExpert said: puking out its vomit
OxbridgeExpert said: big fat obese American
None, Melissa, have ever mentioned food, body image, or weight here. We have discussed numerous things and have often crossed countless red lines, however, have ever considered mentioning food and weight. Only you ever have. More importantly, you have done so in a remarkably obsessive manner. Some of us, Melissa, are educated and know how to read between the lines. This obsession ofyours reveals, not a love of food but, an aversion - vomiting, puking, obesity, etc ... Your food imagery and obsession are typical of anorexic. I googled `Melissa Madgwick' and landed on your Facebook page. I will not upload the photo, Melissa, but it says it all.
Oxbridge, most here are pros and are educated. When we read, we look beyond the words and see the character, the psychological makeup, of the person behind them. Your efforts at concealment are senseless. We know, Oxbridge, that you are Melissa Madgwick and, we know, that you were Asif4444. You are here for the purpose of distracting attention from the Melissa Madgwick scandal. You are here for the purpose of disparaging us all. You are, ironically, engaged in a form of damage-control which has only served to damage your reputation even more.
Melissa, you should know that you have created real enemies here. You have broken the law and have violated our copyrights (as you have done with numerous others). The price you are going to have to pay is very high. And pay you will, Melissa at your local Grey-bar Motel.
OxbridgeExpert said: WB has NEVER EVER given ANY evidence on here - not real evidence - just his BS opinion which he tells everyone is evidence.
What has WB ever done to you? Why the vehement, hatred and ugly vitriolic. We know why. WB posted absolute and unquestionable evidence of your crimes. You hate him/her because you are Melissa and, as a scammer, you are very frightened of him/her. I understand why you are scared and I know that you need to be even more frightened than you presently are.
OxbridgeExpert said: Essay Scam has NO authority at all - it is just a forum for liars and cheats.
Is that why you tried to copy it to the T?
OxbridgeExpert said:WritersBeware's (aka EssayTown scammer)
You are a very silly and idiotic person. ET are the big guys, Melissa, and you are not up to facing them in a court of law. You are not up to facing Academic Answers in a court of law. You are definitely not up to facing any of those whom you stole from. Fortunately, you will have to. Everything takes time but only one as silly as you would assume that delay implies inaction. Melissa, all but you, can see your future.
You once called me TexasMoron. This `moron' will make mince meat out of you.
Good luck in Prison.
WB - Thank you and please keep digging - I am sure there is more out there to find!
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| WRT |
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Oct 30, 09, 10:27AM
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Yes, Pheelyks, she has lost all connection with reality. Wait .... I just called you a Pheelyks?! Any lawsuits coming my way?
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Oct 30, 09, 10:38AM
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You know, Pheelyks isn't my real name. I just might have to sue your a$$, WRT...
I'll give Melissa a call and see if her attorney has time to come up from the seventh circle of hell and handle the paperwork.
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Oct 30, 09, 10:41AM
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texaswriter: I googled `Melissa Madgwick' and landed on your Facebook page. I will not upload the photo, Melissa, but it says it all.
Scary, indeed....not sure about the rules on posting photos, so I'll leave it alone, too, but it's an enLIGHTening five seconds of Googling, if anyone's interested.
Maybe you wouldn't be so bitter al the time if you had a sandwich, Melissa. Or got yourself laid now and then without giving your lovers paper cuts...it must be hard to find people, eh Melissa?
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Oct 30, 09, 10:45AM
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Good going TexasGenius!
I saw the pix. Was a bit dissapointed because had imagined horns, fangs and a forked tongue. Madness was, however, clearly visible.
pheelyks: You know, Pheelyks isn't my real name.
Thank God! Was scared for a moment there.
Melissa, as Robinson says on a near-daily basis, "You may leave. Off with you. Goodbye."
As I ( rather like sucking up to Royalty) would say, "Naff off, girlie."
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Oct 30, 09, 10:51AM
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pheelyks: Maybe you wouldn't be so bitter al the time if you had a sandwich, Melissa. Or got yourself laid now and then without giving your lovers paper cuts...it must be hard to find people, eh Melissa?
Take a look at her friends! Chloe MADgwick. I love animals to bits but that dog looks terribly stupid!
Melissa, please read Pheelyks' posts. He is American but has mastered the caustic, dry British wit. If you are nice, he might give you some `pretending to be British' lessons.
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Oct 30, 09, 11:25AM
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OK I admit it
I AM THE MESSIAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND I ORDER ALL AMERICANS TO IMMEDIATELY KILL THEMSELVES!
Oh the joy... No more morons in the world...
GOOD LUCK OSAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oct 30, 09, 11:29AM
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OxbridgeExpert: GOOD LUCK OSAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ouch! Sorry! I have to call this one. Out of line, Oxbridge! Don't go there.
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Oct 30, 09, 11:32AM
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Denounce Melissa, I dare you.
Girlie, if only you knew what we now know. I am in love with Google.
OxbridgeExpert: I AM THE MESSIAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do believe that the Anti-Christ declares himself the Messiah. Are you Melissa, the Anti-Christ? I knew you had a forked tongue and horns and I am NEVER wrong.
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Oct 30, 09, 11:35AM
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OxbridgeExpert: OK I admit it I AM THE MESSIAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND I ORDER ALL AMERICANS TO IMMEDIATELY KILL THEMSELVES! Oh the joy... No more morons in the world...
But you would still exist and no one anywhere in the world would want to be alive with you!!
You would scam them -
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Oct 30, 09, 11:35AM
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OxbridgeExpert: GOOD LUCK OSAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hardly surprising, AsianWriter, hardly suprising.
Birds of a feather flock together, and all that. In Melissa the Anti-Christ's world, Bin Laden is one of the good guys. Her favourite disciple.
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Oct 30, 09, 11:36AM
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I like that - Melissa the Anti-Christ - let's call her MelissaAC
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Oct 30, 09, 11:39AM
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WRT: Melissa the Anti-Christ
You're giving her too much credit. The Anti-Christ would actually (even to a Jew like me) be a somewhat significant figure. Melissa is entirely insignificant, not only in the empty content of her near-insane ravings, but also in her general physique and personality. Besides, I've heard too many nice things about Australia and most of its people to want to believe that the Anti-Christ could hail from down under.
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WRT: Hardly surprising, AsianWriter, hardly suprising. Birds of a feather flock together, and all that. In Melissa the Anti-Christ's world, Bin Laden is one of the good guys. Her favourite disciple.
OxbridgeExpert's remark was uncalled for at best...
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Oct 30, 09, 11:46AM
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pheelyks: You're giving her too much credit. The Anti-Christ would actually (even to a Jew like me) be a somewhat significant figure. Melissa is entirely insignificant, not only in the empty content of her near-insane ravings, but also in her general physique and personality. Besides, I've heard too many nice things about Australia and most of its people to want to believe that the Anti-Christ could hail from down under.
You're right - she is not worthy of such a lofty title. She is just scum, pure and simple.
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Oct 30, 09, 11:53AM
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It's so typical on this board. One unemployed loser who has nothing better to do finds a link and posts it online. Then other losers beat it up to the point the false becomes 'the truth' (in their eyes at least).
It's quite common a website developer takes one or more websites and tries to do a similar design. It is not illegal, especially the sites were still in the working mode and not fully finished. Not to mention the developer was probably hired as a freelancer and if antything he should be responsible for his actions, not the service buyer.
It's like you copy an article from an online newspaper to your MS Word and then write an essay bases on that. You claim that if I have this article copy-pasted to my MS Word (which could also be available online like OpenOffice) then I'm a criminal :). When I do my homework and my mom can see I have copied an article on my MS Word, she should call the copyright police too! :). You do exactly the same every day (or you did when you were still employed).
Not to mention her location - you only THINK you know where she is in fact located, but you have absolutely no hard evidence.
Get a life.
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Oct 30, 09, 11:55AM
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Well, well - I wonder who you could be?
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Oct 30, 09, 11:56AM
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I suggest you take your own advice.
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Oct 30, 09, 11:59AM
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pheelyks: (even to a Jew like me)
A Jew in America! Ar you trying to tell me that all Americans are not Nazis?
AsianWriter: It was uncalled for at best...
Of course it was uncalled for and can only have ever been uttered by an insane sociopath.
Serious now - Melissa is not right in the head and, as is evident from both her posts and actions, is a really bad person. She should be locked up in an assylum.
pheelyks: I've heard too many nice things about Australia
That's the difference, Phyleeks. Despite it all, none of us turned this into a `bash Australia fest.' When all is said and done, Melissa, there is a world of difference between us. Your anti-American rants are disgusting; your wishing all Americans dead is just pure evil, even if said in passing. But, you know something? None need to defend the United States against your stupid attacks and none feel compelled to. Every evil and vile word you utter exposes you as a really horrible person. Dig your grave, create more enemies ...
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Oct 30, 09, 12:02PM
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stu4: It's so typical on this board. One unemployed loser who has nothing better to do finds a link and posts it online. Then other losers beat it up to the point the false becomes 'the truth' (in their eyes at least).
I am sorry, all. I had earlier said that Melissa was infinitely worse than the Yuris and Alexeis amongst us. I take it back. Stu4, you are just as bad.
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Oct 30, 09, 12:54PM
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OxbridgeExpert: Do you listen? Do you apologise for libelling and abusing me? A criminal offence, that.
Libel in this venue is not a criminal offense, moron. Plus, truth is an absolute defense to any libel complaint.
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Oct 30, 09, 12:55PM
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OxbridgeExpert: Put up or shut up
Stealing again, I see . . . .
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Public domain photos voluntarily published in Facebook:
  
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Oct 30, 09, 01:33PM
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Maybe the peroxide has begun eating through her skull....
If not, we can always hope.
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Oct 30, 09, 02:08PM
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pheelyks: Maybe the peroxide has begun eating through her skull.... If not, we can always hope.
But that would mean she actually had a brain inside her skull and clearly she has neither a brain nor a heart.
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Personally speaking, I was fully prepared for an ugly exterior. You are so thoroughly and unequivocally rotten from the inside that it only stood to reason that you would be unfortunate in the looks' department. I was not prepared for this, though. Haven't you ever considered corrective, plastic surgery? Your nose is quite crooked and the tip is abnormally elongated. I suspect that you suffer from the Pinocchio Syndrome; the more you lie, the longer it grows. I daresay it grew a yard or two this past week.
As for your eyes ... well, they are somewhat rat-like. Close-set, shifty pinpoints. Your mouth, as you know, is abnormally wide. Try not to smile again. It makes you look rather freakish.
Your hair ... what can I say? It is bad, girlie. The colour is terribly unnatural and you have less hair on your head than does a balding male. There is hope yet, however. Stay away from the cheap dyes you've been using and stop tugging and pulling at your hair when in the throes of one of your very frequent maniacal fits.
Serious now ... you'll probably lurk round this board and read all that is said about you. If you have a modicum of common-sense, though, you will not post. Melissa, you really do not need any more enemies. You've made enough to last several lifetimes and are in an inordinate amount of trouble. You truly are a very dishonest, bitter and hateful person (the truth is not liable, Melissa). You steal, you lie and you insult. You are on the wrong side of the law and have no sense of shame whatsoever. There's a price to be paid for your actions, Melissa, and while it is going to be a terribly hefty one, it is well-deserved.
You have stolen webcopies; you have cloned websites; you have lifted the programming of others; your promotional articles are plagiarised; your blog posts are plagiarised; your ad claims are classic examples of conspiracy to engage in consumer fraud. Ten years in business? Multiple degrees? Served thousands of satisfied customers? Marketing may be about exaggerating what is already there but it was never about outright lying – that is illegal and you are guilty of that on several counts. Unfortunately for you, Australian law is quite strict about things like consumer fraud and has a terribly unyielding Sales of Goods and Services law in place. Can you, Melissa, be sure that someone here, anyone, will not report you? You do know, don't you, that you will have to answer to those whom you stole from?
Melissa, stay away. Stop posting and try not to aggravate more and more people. As I said and, as you well know, you have enough enemies at the moment. Try not to create more.
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Oct 30, 09, 05:46PM
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Jennifer199: I am young, and have a great future ahead of me!
Apparently, you are right. You are an essayscam hit, Melissa. The three threads which revolve around you are tremendously active and have received a record-setting number of reads in any seven-day period. Congratulations!
Now, naff off.
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Oct 30, 09, 05:51PM
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WRT: Personally speaking, I was fully prepared for an ugly exterior. You are so thoroughly and unequivocally rotten from the inside that it only stood to reason that you would be unfortunate in the looks' department. I was not prepared for this, though. Haven't you ever considered corrective, plastic surgery? Your nose is quite crooked and the tip is abnormally elongated. I suspect that you suffer from the Pinocchio Syndrome; the more you lie, the longer it grows. I daresay it grew a yard or two this past week.
You are pathetic and present typical American behavior. I used to work with a group of Americans. All they did was to mock and laugh at anything and anybody as soon as the person they mock cannot hear the 'conversation.' After talking to their client - they mock them because of their accent. When their boss told them to be nicer over the phone, they would laugh at him when he left the office. 30 year old men, but behaving like rotten idiot teenagers. They thought it was "cool behavior", how low can you go.........
I wonder if I found your picture and post it in public, would you have a good laugh too? We would then "analyze" your features so that you could have laugh with us, hopefully you'd join the conversation.
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Hey, Stewy, you should probably start worrying about what's going to happen to your network of sites. You do realize that your location in Ukraine affords your crooked company absolutely no legal protections, right? All it takes is one, simple lawsuit against your network, and your sites are finished. You're going to get "Axacted," kid.
Custom-Essay.org
Custom-Essay.ws
Custom-Writing.org
English-Essay-Writing-Help.org
i-TermPaper.com
OvernightEssay.com
PerfectResume.org
PhDworks.org
ResearchWritingCenter.com
ResumeWritingAgent.com
StandardEssays.com
StandoutEssay.com
UniPapers.org
Writing-Services.org
YourDissertation.com
By the way, if it weren't for Americans, you'd still be the Soviets' b*tch.
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Oct 30, 09, 06:12PM
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WritersBeware: Hey, Stewy, you should probably start worrying about what's going to happen to your network of sites.
I don't know what sites you're talking about, but I guess it can go both ways as everything in life. Have you heard about karma?
WritersBeware: By the way, if it weren't for Americans, you'd still be the Soviets' b*tch.
Right, especially that Americans now borrow the socialism system from the Soviets. As I wrote above, everything can work both ways and your own gun can turn against you.
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Oct 30, 09, 06:20PM
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stu4: Americans now borrow the socialism system from the Soviets.
Where on earth do you people get your facts from? A public healthcare option makes the US socialist? Well, as it has a strong welfare state tradition, Britain must be socialist too. As for Sandinavia, it appears that this group of countries is fanatically communist.
Please think before you type, Stu4.
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Oct 30, 09, 06:23PM
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WritersBeware: All it takes is one, simple lawsuit against your network
You mean lawsuit because I'm black? Or Ukrainian?
WRT: A public healthcare option makes the US socialist?
That too, but start with the bailouts. Will there be the American essay industry bailout too?
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Oct 30, 09, 06:24PM
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Melissa, you've made yourself a friend! Stu4. Like you, his questionable practices have left him quite friendless. Maybe you two could hook up? You're made for one another.
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stu4: You mean lawsuit because I'm black? stu4: Will there be the American essay industry bailout too?
Have you lost the very last one of your marbles?
stu4: That too, but start with the bailouts.
Look at it this way, Stu4. Over the past twenty years, the United States has forked over 1.6 billion in aid money to your country. Have you any inkling of its global financial aid figure for 2008? Check it, please. Then, come back here and tell us that it is alright for the US to give Ukraine aid and that it is absolutely fine for it to fork out billions per annum to developing economies,, but it should not use American money to try and save US industries and stem unemployment rates.
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WRT: Look at it this way, Stu4. Over the past twenty years, the United States has forked over 1.6 billion in aid money to your country. Have you any inkling of its global financial aid figure for 2008? Check it, please. Then, come back here and tell us that it is alright for the US to give Ukraine aid and that it is absolutely fine for it to fork out billions per annum to developing economies,, but it should not use American money to try and save US industries and stem unemployment rates.
You clearly do not understand the basic principles of the system you live in (capitalism). Let me quickly school you.
In order for capitalism to survive, it NEEDS debt.
Debt = Slaves
Debt is like air for the capitalistic system. Without debt the US economy is ruined. The "aid" you talk about is not free money, but it is a debt that will be paid over the next decade.
Look at the American economy now - the gov is giving away free money because it cannot breathe. Unless people start borrowing money the system will not survive.
US first destroys countries by senseless war and then plays a good uncle and rebuilds the ruined country. It's all to create debt.
Just wait until the US dollar is not a world-wide currency, you will be the first to come to all these "less developed" countries just to survive (unless you learn how to eat worthless dollar bills). Hey, maybe you'll get lucky and will be hired by one of the "foreign" companies too.
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stu4: You mean lawsuit because I'm black? Or Ukrainian?
Actually, no. The lawsuit will consist of many different counts, including but absolutely not limited to:
* Intentional and malicious defamation
* Violation of Section 512(f) of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act 17 U.S.C. § 512(f)
* Violation of the United States Copyright Act, 17 U.S.C. § 101
* Violation of the Federal Lanham Act, 15 U.S.C. § 1125(a)
* Violation of the Common Law of Unfair Competition
* Tortious Interference with Prospective Economic Advantage
* False advertising and misrepresentation
* Violation of California's Unfair Competition Law (Code § 17200)
(Important: For California BPC Code § 17200, the plaintiff doesn't even have to prove that he/she/it has been affected by the defendant's conduct. Rather, it is sufficient for the plaintiff to allege and prove that the public will likely be deceived by the defendant's conduct.)
* etc. (for me to know, and you to find out)
You're in way over your head, Stewy. You will regret using that California address to fool American consumers.
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Oct 30, 09, 07:08PM
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stu4: You clearly do not understand the basic principles of the system you live in (capitalism).
My graduate degree in political economy (amongst the other graduate and post-graduate academic qualifications I hold), says otherwise. In brief, capitalist/liberal market economic systems are self-adjusting. While equilibrium is the ideal, a state of debt and, at other times, of surplus, are the norm. The current crisis has not been brought about by capitalism per se but, because there had occured a state of serious disequilibrium, overevaluation of assets and, of course, the failure of the SCLO system (due to lack of proper oversight). We are now experiencing a state of adjustment, of movement towards equilibrium. This involves the revaluation of the previously overevaluated assets. It may take a couple of years for the results to show but, in the interim, it is necessary to prevent the deepening of the crisis. The strategy for doing so (whether we are ideologically opposed to it, or not) is bailouts. The point, Stu4, is that the crisis cannot be attributed to capitalism, per se but, to mismanagement and, the solution lies in maintaining the integrity of the operational the liberal market system.
stu4: Unless people start borrowing money the system will not survive.
Not borrowing but, spending.
Communism is slavery, not capitalism. Besides, if you are ideologically adverse to capitalism, move to North Korea, mainland China, Cuba, etc. Don't live within the bounds of a system which you are opposed to and, at the very least, do not try to exploit it for personal financial gain.stu4: US first destroys countries by senseless war and then plays a good uncle and rebuilds the ruined country.
Iraq was a war of choice and unecessary. Afganistan was a war of necessity, a just war. stu4: all these "less developed" countries just to survive (unless you learn how to eat worthless dollar bills). Hey, maybe you'll get lucky and will be hired by one of the "foreign" companies too.
I sincerely doubt it.
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 31, 09, 01:29AM
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stu4: Right, especially that Americans now borrow the socialism system from the Soviets.
Ah, good old American socialism. The system that guarantees many elderly people will live below the poverty line, contains a healthcare system that only might be partially managed by the government, and in which the highest tax bracket is 35% of earnings over $372,950. If that's not the definition of socialism...well....uhhhhhhh........
WRT: Maybe you two could hook up?
Be careful about paper cuts, stu4.
stu4: In order for capitalism to survive, it NEEDS debt.
This shows a highly oversimplified, naive, and shortsighted view. The world, right or wrong, was built on debt, but only the last few centuries could be considered truly capitalist. There is also every possibility for capitalism to eliminate debt. Granted, the American economy (and the Western economy as a whole, which the Ukraine certainly bought into quite avidly as soon as they were able to) would undergo a massive upheaval if such a shift were attempted, and the end result would look like a blend of socialism (true socialism, however, not the totalitarianism insanity that became the government of the USSR--my favorite was the TV factory whose output was measured by weight, so they made really heavy TVs) and capitalism, but this shift may already be occurring.stu4: The "aid" you talk about is not free money, but it is a debt that will be paid over the next decade.
A lot of aid is given without any obligation or expectation of repayment. I'm not saying that US motives with such aid are entirely altruistic, but they are not all directly economic.
WRT: My graduate degree in political economy (amongst the other graduate and post-graduate academic qualifications I hold), says otherwise.
I bow to your far greater capabilities here--I pay attention to the news (somewhat) and I enjoy analyzing what i read, but my English degree doesn't exactly give me a solid background in economics.WRT: Afganistan was a war of necessity, a just war.
I hesitate to tread where you are doubtless better versed, but I've always been a plucky lad...
Though the situation in Afghanistan may have reached a point where it was necessary to invade, didn't the US arm/train the country to fend off the Russians? I hate to give stu4 something else to twist around, but it was our aiding of the country's liberation from the USSR that created the just war in the first place, no?
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Oct 31, 09, 01:41AM
| #120 |
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Go USA!
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