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I have lost everything I had saved up for my paper and when I got the paper it was totally off topic and seemed it was someone else's paper. Please I have lost a lot of money on this can someone tell me what website is orginal and really good hearted people who care for people that are dyslexic and not like customwritings.com. Thank you all and God bless.
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| FallenStudent |
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Nov 18, 09, 09:02PM
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From my browsing of this site, they generally don't provide recommendations of any essay writing paper
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Dec 8, 09, 11:09AM
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They are cheater,they charged me twicely.
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Dec 8, 09, 11:52AM
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Twicely? That's not very nicely. What was the pricely? Do you want some advicely? Next time, act wisely!
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Dec 8, 09, 01:17PM
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Hahahahahaha.
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Dec 8, 09, 11:56PM
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cocklejoe: Twicely? That's not very nicely. What was the pricely? Do you want some advicely? Next time, act wisely!
The saddest part about this is that J. Richardson will have no idea what the hell it means. I too giggled a little bit and then felt bad for the poor sucker who buys a research paper from J. Richardson's remote village of PhD writers. The peak season is tapering off and the next United Nations food drop will not be until February.... so naturally J. Richardson is hitting the forums to engage in a serious dialog about the conceptual future of the writing industry. That or just spam idiotic comments that make no sense... but really is there any difference between the two? J. Richardson please clarify why they are cheater and where do you see the writing industry if companies continue to charge students twicely?
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Jun 27, 10, 10:32AM
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Customswritings.com is a bunch of crooks.
As I had no time to write I asked for a serious essay, but they sent me scraps of unrelated paragraphs which I was able to traced on the Internet. Also, there were so many grammar and editing mistakes in my essay that I suspected it had been written by a non-native speaker of English. You know, the kind of mistakes that an English person would never have made, such as: "I have a passion on reading" or "it brings a compelling filling", or even worse "live someone on their toes", Oh, and this one is the best "I always consider reading such stories like an analog of playing chase or monopoly" ................and many other mistakes usually made by foreigners .
How can they lie that these papers are written by native speakers of English? Even if they are, they must be some high school dropouts who cannot write one sentence correctly. If you want proof, I can send it to your email box.
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Oct 19, 10, 05:08PM
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So do you think buying a sample from these guys is a waste of money?
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Apr 21, 11, 04:11AM
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It seems that majority of these essayscam-members are essay-scammers themselves who are making attempts to fight off other essay-scam companies in this way.
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Edited by: cybermediaboy Jun 1, 11, 10:03AM
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I am working for this company you're complaining about, and I must say I don't understand how this happened. We are among the best in this industry, and after 6 years of operation and tens of thousands of completed works, we have only 5 complaints on this forum.
First of all, there is just 4% chance to receive a badly written paper from us. But even in these very rare situations our customers are protected in a number of ways:
1) Customers receive the preview version of the paper in PDF format, quite a bit before the deadline. If the paper looks bad and you don't want any revisions - you just don't click on the "accept and download MS Word version" button, and ask for a full refund. So you don't lose any money.
2) Next, when you place an order with us, you can, for a mere 10% extra fee, request the feature that lets you track how the writing goes in parts, so if you think the writer is bad, you just stop the process early and change the writer or receive your money back.
3) The customers are free to choose what type of writer they want, when they place an order. If you want to stay on the safe side completely, you can request us to assign ONLY native speaking writer with advanced status in our system. Only best writers have this advanced status, so in this case you may be sure you will receive great sample.
Please accept my appologies and feel free to contact our support desk in regards to refund.
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| pheelyks |
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Jun 1, 11, 10:45AM
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cybermediaboy: We are among the best in this industry
According to you. What objective standards are used to measure this, exactly?
cybermediaboy: and after 6 years of operation and tens of thousands of completed works, we have only 5 complaints on this forum.
Bull. Sh*t.
cybermediaboy: there is just 4% chance to receive a badly written paper from us.
If by 4 you mean 90, then I concede this point.
cybermediaboy: and ask for a full refund.
Note that he doesn't actually say they'll give you a refund. They won't--they'll fight tooth and nail to keep your money, while keeping the writer's pay and claiming that they paid a refund. They've been doing this for years.
cybermediaboy: for a mere 10% extra fee, request the feature that lets you track how the writing goes in parts
Except we all know that good writers don't usually work on anything "in parts" unless it's 15+ pages, and not even then, usually. so this is about as helpful as a pile of sh*t.
cybermediaboy: you can request us to assign ONLY native speaking writer with advanced status in our system.
But when you still pay your "advanced" writers $6/page, you don't really have the cream of the crop in the industry, do you? And how many of your "advanced" writers are actually native English speakers? I think I remember seeing one or two on gradelancer, and even they had some glaring sentence structure and grammar issues.
cybermediaboy: feel free to contact our support desk in regards to refund.
Yeah, now that it's a year later, it's great PR to offer a refund you know they won't take you up on.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 1, 11, 12:05PM
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cybermediaboy: We are among the best in this industry
LMAO!
cybermediaboy: there is just 4% chance to receive a badly written paper from us
You couldn't competently judge "quality writing" in the English language to save your life. Don't even get me started on the "4%" nonsense . . . .
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Jun 1, 11, 12:09PM
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Moderator, cybermediaboy's entire post is marketing in poor disguise. Please delete.
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Jun 1, 11, 03:43PM
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Oh, it's you Pheelyks and Writersbeware, our old opponents. Still unable to make the true from false. Writersbeware, you can come to my office, log in with my account into our back end and calculate dissatisfied customers percentage yourself. I will even pay your flight both ways and a hotel stay for a few days. You will have a driver, meals and an English speaking guide to help you enjoy the local attractions. In exchange I ask you to admit on this forum that your assaults were based on prejudice. This is the only way I see to support myself here. Deal?
In regards to progressive delivery, it is true that at the moment it works for bigger papers only.
As for native speaking writers, selecting this option on our sites involves extra fees, which go directly to the writer. Therefore their pay is at least twice as much.
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Jun 1, 11, 04:00PM
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We do refunds according to the moneyback policy. In a particular case when the customer does not accept the preview version and asks for a refund - money is given back 100%. We have such low % of refund requests that it's pointless to fight them. The fact that preview version of the paper is copy and print protected defends us against customer fraud, so we are ok with the writer and the customer in this situation. For the competing web sites which do not have the same system, they might need to fight refunds because it's hard sometimes to say, whether the customer is right, or just tries to cheat on the service and get both paper and their money back - and this is a big issue not only in terms of revenue, but for the writers as well.
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Jun 1, 11, 04:59PM
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We still ask the dissatisfied customers to explain the reasons behind the refund request, to protect ourselves and the writers against a category of customers who misguide the writer from the beginning by submitting wrong/incomplete initial instructions, or do not need the sample at all any more by the time of the deadline, but in all cases which have reasons behind a request, the decision is made in favor of the customer.
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Jun 1, 11, 05:11PM
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We don't refund the money in full, if a customer's complaint was "non native-speaking writer", because they have an option to pay extra for a native speaker when they place an order.
Pheelyks: "advanced" is not equal to "native speaking". There are advanced native speaking, native speaking, advanced non native speaking, non native speaking and new writers. 5 categories total. For regular orders w/o any writer category preference, best available writer is assigned. In this case, though, there is no premium fee for the writer.
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Edited by: MeoKhan Jun 2, 11, 01:27AM
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cybermediaboy
You only wanted some attention here and you did get it. Your actual purpose is not defending your position or anything else. It's just marketing yourself for a number of students/writers who visit this forum.
It's mean-marketing.
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Edited by: cybermediaboy Jun 2, 11, 03:13AM
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I am defending the company's reputation against such complaints. It might seem from these messages that we cheat on the customers, but it's not true, therefore I have to defend our positions by explaining how everything works. Tell me how do I defend ourselves without such explanations (which do advertise our strenghts in fact), and I will keep to this line.
Some people get into trouble because they do not pay proper attention to order options, money back policies and such, and start complaining about "site that took everything from me" while in the real situation they could understand the risks and had a possibility to avoid them.
Look at Pheelyks who once worked for us, then got into a conflict with management, now spreading rumors that all of our writers are idiots. His opinion has to be opposed. Or look at WritersBeware, who presumes we are cheaters because of a couple of complaints and a fact that I live and manage the business in Ukraine.
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Jun 2, 11, 03:28AM
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WritersBeware: You couldn't competently judge "quality writing" in the English language to save your life.
Yes English is my second language, but I don't write the papers nor judge whether the customer is right in each dispute case. The quality is up for the clients to judge. If they are completely dissatisfied - they just go away and get their money back, with a few constraints applied to protect the writers against unfair behaviour on customers side.
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Edited by: cybermediaboy Jun 2, 11, 03:31AM
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WritersBeware: Don't even get me started on the "4%" nonsense . . . .
I am serious about my offer that you come and see everything with your own eyes. Still waiting for your reply. You know my email address in case I will not attend this forum for some time.
You were saying somewhere on this forum that I, Yason, and Jeffrey are the same person, using multiple forum accounts. If you come, I will introduce you in person to both Jeffrey and Yason, Jeffrey working for a completely another, even competing company, that runs plagiarismdetect, and another one (Yason) running a separate internet advertising firm, which we have partnered with.
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Edited by: cybermediaboy Jun 2, 11, 05:49AM
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pheelyks: cybermediaboy: there is just 4% chance to receive a badly written paper from us. If by 4 you mean 90, then I concede this point.
At the moment I am looking at the interface that shows the list of all orders in May which were disputed by the customers (means the customers were completely or very dissatisfied with the 1st draft work they have received). If you won't complain I'm advertising, I can tell you the exact number of these orders, compared to total number of orders done in May. Each line has an exact description of what was wrong with the paper. I can also upload a screenshot (with customer's emails removed first). It's an inside business information, but I will share it for the sake of evidence to back up my words.
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| pheelyks |
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Jun 2, 11, 08:20AM
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cybermediaboy: If you won't complain I'm advertising
No, I'll just think you're lying. I saw how many orders got complaints when I worked for your company, and I also know that more of your orders SHOULD get complaints because your writers are incompetent plagiarists.
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Edited by: cybermediaboy Jun 2, 11, 11:58AM
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Pheelyks how did you see the complaints? Orders that were re-published for another writer's bidding? Did you actually ever count these?
You can also come and see this, but I won't sponsor this trip for you, sorry. I think that you have personal reasons behind your position. You want the screenshot emailed to you?
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| pheelyks |
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Jun 2, 11, 12:21PM
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cybermediaboy: Orders that were re-published for another writer's bidding? Did you actually ever count these?
Yes, and no, but given that there were several every day I'd say your batting average isn't as good as you claim.
cybermediaboy: I think that you have personal reasons behind your position.
Like the fact that you treated one of your best writers like **** and still owe me $200? Yeah, maybe.
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Jun 3, 11, 10:36AM
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pheelyks
pheelyks: Yes, and no, but given that there were several every day I'd say your batting average isn't as good as you claim.
Several?
Pheelyks, what is your idea about how many orders are completed every day?
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Jun 3, 11, 10:38AM
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pheelyks: still owe me $200?
Is it your hold amount balance? Or penalties for bad work which was not accepted by the customers?
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Jun 3, 11, 10:47AM
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I see about 110 orders total that were put on a dispute in May. Out of what total number, what's your guess?
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Jun 3, 11, 10:59AM
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cybermediaboy: Or penalties for bad work
I don't do bad work. This amount is what was in my account the last time I refused to complete a brand new order for a customer that hadn't included full instructions. When you refused to pay me, I posted the essay online (which I had every right to do; if I wasn't being paid for my work as agreed, then the copyright wasn't being transferred as agreed. That's how contracts work). You then refused to pay me any of what you owed me and closed my account.cybermediaboy: Pheelyks, what is your idea about how many orders are completed every day?
Maybe you're right about the percentage that get "put on dispute." I know your customers tend to be even worse with English and general academic aptitude than your writers, and I'm sure many don't notice how sh*tty the work they receive is, while others decide they just got ripped off and don't bother disputing (we see those customers here a lot). But if you have three or four orders a day "put on dispute" due to issues of plagiarism and consistent, glaring grammar issues then you have a problem, no matter how many orders the company completes.
You LIE to your customers about the quality of your writers and LIE to your writers about refunds, fines, etc. You're a slimy, two-bit scammer.
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Jun 3, 11, 11:16AM
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pheelyks: Like the fact that you treated one of your best writers like ****
I have no idea what was the problem between you and the company exactly, but I trust Michael from the writers support department who said you were causing a lot of pain. I will look into your orders and responses from the customers, to see if you were that good.
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Jun 3, 11, 11:30AM
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pheelyks: But if you have three or four orders a day "put on dispute" due to issues of plagiarism and consistent, glaring grammar issues then you have a problem, no matter how many orders the company completes.
Even Turnitin can't guarantee 100% plagiarism detection results, despite the fact their database is biggest in the world. We only check against a considerably smaller database and documents indexed by search engines. If plagiarism that passed our system is found, the customer can demand their money back.
No writing company in the world can guarantee 100% no plagiarism (but every writing company does, in fact). So yeah, 0.5% of the orders happen to have some stuff plagiarized. Very pity but inevitable risk. We can only fight that by penalizing and firing the writers who try to cheat.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 3, 11, 11:32AM
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cybermediaboy: We can only fight that by penalizing and firing the writers who try to cheat.
WRONG.
You don't "penalize" in order to line your pockets and keep the piece of sh*t plagiarizer(s) on staff. You fire. That is all.
You view plagiarism as a revenue stream. It's not. When it happens, you eat it. It's a cost of doing business.
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Jun 3, 11, 11:39AM
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pheelyks: Maybe you're right about the percentage that get "put on dispute." I know your customers tend to be even worse with English and general academic aptitude than your writers, and I'm sure many don't notice how sh*tty the work they receive is, while others decide they just got ripped off and don't bother disputing (we see those customers here a lot)
pheelyks: I don't do bad work.
Pheelyks, you seem to know more exact statistics on the customers, writers and orders, then the business director has with his access to all databases.
Your ability to know things that are inaccessible to you is AMAZING. This is what makes you so professional, I assume. Customers are idiots, other writers are idiots, everyone lies and makes mistakes, only Pheelyks happen to be сlairvoyant and EVER produces perfect results. Yeah. No big news that you got into trouble with such an attitude.
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Jun 3, 11, 11:53AM
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WritersBeware: You view plagiarism as a revenue stream.
No. We view plagiarism as a threat that turns happy returning customers [read: our main asset] into unhappy users of this forum.
This is how it happens that out of enormous number of our customers whom we have successfully served over a period of 6 years, there are only 6 such topics on Essayscam with complaints.
P.S.
I am glad that you finally decided to stop arguing about the statistics of the failed orders.
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Jun 3, 11, 12:00PM
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pheelyks: I refused to complete a brand new order for a customer that hadn't included full instructions. When you refused to pay me, I posted the essay online
Do you mean you refused to START WRITING the new order, or refused to REWORK already written paper which later appeared to have incomplete initial instructions?
What was the order number? If you remember.
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Edited by: cybermediaboy Jun 3, 11, 12:08PM
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pheelyks: But if you have three or four orders a day "put on dispute" due to issues of plagiarism and consistent, glaring grammar issues then you have a problem, no matter how many orders the company completes.
Four orders a day out of 400, for instance, is 1%. I don't think this constitutes a big problem, as long as the customers are warned about such possibility. Yes, unlike you Pheelyks, who never do any mistakes, we are not perfect.
Look at the main page of the site. The customers know the real situation with 4% average of mistakes. And they have options to avoid these risks - like specifying the type of writer, etc.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 3, 11, 01:19PM
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cybermediaboy: P.S. I am glad that you finally decided to stop arguing about the statistics of the failed orders.
FU. I did no such thing. Do you really want to piss me off?
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Jun 3, 11, 01:19PM
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cybermediaboy: Four orders a day out of 400
Liar . . . . You do not have anywhere near 400 orders per day.
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| pheelyks |
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Jun 3, 11, 04:57PM
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cybermediaboy: you were causing a lot of pain
Yeah. Asking for my pay, refusing to complete rewrites on successfully completed orders, arguing about fines on orders I didn't agree to take--I was a giant pain in your ass because I wouldn't roll over and let you f*ck me in mine.
cybermediaboy: So yeah, 0.5% of the orders happen to have some stuff plagiarized
Bullsh*t. Not only am I sure that far more than this percentage contained plagiarism, but when it occurred it wasn't just "some stuff." Your writers take huge tracts from semi-related sources and try to tie it together with their own poor English. The result is a useless, steaming pile of crap.
cybermediaboy: we are not perfect.
If you had a hiring process that consisted of more than a barely coherent Ukrainian woman asking me if I understood the job and then actually offered a decent wage, you could improve your service a great deal. You know this, but are unwilling to eat into your profits in order to make these changes, which is what makes you a scammer and a generally scummy person.
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Jun 3, 11, 05:06PM
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Lol. Dog eat dog. Pheelyks now sound like Editor, too funny...
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