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Sep 12, 09, 11:57PM
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LOL! All type, no substance. Care to name someone who is honestly on your side?
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 12, 09, 11:59PM
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EW_writer: I'd love to explain the simple lessons of the course to you and how your previous posts show how much of an idiot you are, but those lessons don't come free and the latter is pretty evident to everyone reading this thread. Once again, my statements regarding the skill-level and legal culpability of EssayWriters.net's writers, in general, do NOT apply to you. Get it? I always have and always will maintain that you are a criminal. Your ongoing activities—in this forum and elsewhere—in support of EssayWriters.net's illegal practices seal your fate in the eyes of the law.
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Sep 13, 09, 12:09AM
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I gotta take some shuteye. I hope that more people vote so that we can at least make it clear that competent ESL writers who work for EW, AR or any other company are not criminals even if they read this forum and are aware of the proofs posted here against their respective employer/s. Good night folks. ^_^
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Edited by: EW_writer Sep 13, 09, 12:12AM
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WritersBeware: Care to name someone who is honestly on your side?
OxbridgeResearchers: 2) Writers who work for EW, A-R, etc are criminals: I disagree. Some are highly qualified and, unfortunately, are being discriminated against. Due to either nationality or geographic location, their applications are rejected by what we call the "legitimate" companies. They are left with no choice at all. I doubt that any of them (I am referring to the truly qualified ones and not the multitudes whose hands should be severed for ever daring to write in English) enjoy the working conditions they are subjected to - fines, low wages, delays in payments, etc. Unfortunately, they really do not believe that they have anywhere else to go and many need the money. So, I believe they are victims ....
OxbridgeResearchers: While maintaining that the writers are not criminals (the good ones, the qualified ones are not; the others ....)
God.. you get one opinion that doesn't agree with you and you go ballistic. >.< What's wrong with you? >.<
WritersBeware: Once again, my statements regarding the skill-level and legal culpability of EssayWriters.net's writers, in general, do NOT apply to you. Get it? I always have and always will maintain that you are a criminal. Your ongoing activities—in this forum and elsewhere—in support of EssayWriters.net's illegal practices seal your fate in the eyes of the law.
Your statements mean what you want them to mean, and you change what you want them to mean when you need to. It's sad but that's who you are, WB. We all know it. Now, why don't you keep your crappy opinions and let the good people here vote on the matter that you asked them to vote on? ^_^ Oh, and goodnight to you too. :p
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 13, 09, 12:28AM
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EW_writer: Your statements mean what you want them to mean, and you change what you want them to mean when you need to. Quote me, liar. I changed nothing. I made a statement that applies to EW's writers, in general, not to YOU. Don't believe me? Ask OR what I meant and what she gathered. Why don't you also quote what is in black and white in my original post? Believe me, when I mean to direct a post to you, I leave little doubt. I think that it's pretty damn clear to everyone by now that I classify you in a completely separate category. Your role extends far beyond that of EW's average writer; you're an agent and active co-conspirator.
EW_writer: We all know it. Really? Who is "we"? Show some balls and name names. Does your "we" include widely respected members like OR, pheelyks, or FreelanceWriter?
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 13, 09, 12:33AM
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EW_writer: God.. you get one opinion that doesn't agree with you and you go ballistic. "Ballistic"? LOL! You're delusional. Stop putting words in people's mouths. Ask OR if she thinks that I went ballistic. We had a perfectly civil exchange in which I issued a clarification that I think is very much relevant in helping her to accurately shape her ultimate opinion. I didn't want her to post a final opinion based on your intentional misquoting.
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Sep 13, 09, 03:58AM
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Unqualified academic writers (in general - regardless of the company), are dishonest. They do not have the requisite academic qualifications, yet lead customers to assume that they do; they cannot write a proper sentence in English (even if their lives depended on it) but sell their `skills' as English-language writers. What is honest about that? Would any go to a `doctor' who knows nothing about medicine? Same thing - selling skills they do not possess while leading customers to believe that they do.
Qualified ESL writers - not criminals. They are trying to make the best of a bad situation - not offered any real opportunities with the legits and, therefore, go through any open doors.
Native, qualified writers who work with A-R, etc. Plain stupid and ACCOMPLICES. I was one of them and am speaking about myself. Even though I was an active freelancer with a couple of legits, I still worked with A-R for 2 years (completing over 700 orders). Do I have an excuse? No, I don't. Was I an accomplice? Certainly was. Did I help promote their fraud? Yes I did.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 13, 09, 04:04AM
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OxbridgeResearchers: Qualified ESL writers - not criminals. They are trying to make the best of a bad situation - not offered any real opportunities with the legits and, therefore, go through any open doors. OR, I get what you're typing, but my point is that, by legal definition, they are criminals and co-conspirators if they are aware of the ongoing misrepresentation/fraud/crime and choose to look the other way. One's "personal circumstances" or "available opportunities" carry little weight in a court of law when attempting to justify one's crimes. One cannot stand before a judge and expect to be acquitted by saying, "Sure, you caught me red-handed, but I'm not guilty of stealing because I've been given no opportunities." That's akin to a privileged guy saying, "I'm not guilty of taking advantage of people, including my employees, because that's all I've ever known."
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Sep 13, 09, 04:38AM
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WritersBeware: OR, I get what you're typing, but my point is that, by legal definition, As I said earlier, the law is clear - you are right. This was just my opinion. The law, however, imposes a certain obligation upon employees/service contractors/freelancer - if the company is fraudulent and you have knowledge of that but continue to work with them anyways, you become an accomplice.
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Sep 13, 09, 04:53AM
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I would just like to get something off my chest. I hope you guys don't mind. This is, indeed, an amusing and informative forum. I'm sure that someone can relate to what I have to say.
I believe that, in the "Constitutions" of countries like the USA and the Philippines, proper education is a basic human right. Depriving students of this is actually a human rights violation. When we do students' homeworks or exams for them, we deprive them of the ability to learn properly. This, to me, is tantamount to depriving them of their education. It seems to me that by doing this, we have not only broken the law, but we have also committed crime against the "Constitution".
EW operates in the USA, Ukraine and the Philippines. All these countries contain this basic right in their "Constitutions" (I am not sure about the other countries). To me, this says that EW is committing a crime; and if I knowingly participate in it, I am a criminal too.
Guys, this is simply my opinion. I am no expert. However, I live by my conscience. My dad once told me that if it smells like a duck, moves like a duck and looks like a duck, it probably is a duck. I could be wrong. Maybe EW is actually legit. I don't know. Still... I don't feel right about it. So, it would be better for me to leave before I find out that I'm right. In fact, thanks to WritersBeware, I have already taken the first step towards that direction.
Thank you again for allowing me to air my views.
Good day to all!
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Sep 13, 09, 06:54AM
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boom8088: I hope you guys don't mind. You are a wonderfully civilised person and I, for one, truly appreciate your posts :) I do, however, disagree with you on a fundamental issue:
boom8088: we have not only broken the law, but we have also committed crime against the "Constitution". We provide models. Some of us very very clearly (in large print) advise students NOT TO SUBMIT the work as their own. In so doing, they would not only be misusing our services and violating their institution's academic integrity policy but, they would be CHEATING THEMSELVES. Research work provided is supposed to be used as a model. Students can use the same sources we have, the same argument and structure. They, however, have to rewrite it in theor own words and, importantly, add their voice to it ... include class lecture material, etc. We do not sell homework - we provide academic research assistancy services.
I am not naive - I know, and have no doubt, that many customers ignore our policy ... They are the ones violating the law, not us. We sell a legitimate service, to be used for a legitimate purpose. Our services are legal. How students ultimately use the material we provide is something we cannot control :)
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Sep 13, 09, 07:02AM
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WritersBeware: Really? Who is "we"? Show some balls and name names. Does your "we" include widely respected members like OR, pheelyks, or FreelanceWriter?
Yeah, sure. ^_^ FreelanceWriter, pheelyks, and OR, do you think that WB is right in calling me and other competent ESL writers who work for ew and ar as freelance writers, criminals? Wait, OR already gave her answer (no, right?), so that leaves pheelyks and FreelanceWriter. Well?
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Sep 13, 09, 07:04AM
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boom8088: I believe that, in the "Constitutions" of countries like the USA and the Philippines, proper education is a basic human right. Depriving students of this is actually a human rights violation. When we do students' homeworks or exams for them, we deprive them of the ability to learn properly. This, to me, is tantamount to depriving them of their education. It seems to me that by doing this, we have not only broken the law, but we have also committed crime against the "Constitution". EW operates in the USA, Ukraine and the Philippines. All these countries contain this basic right in their "Constitutions" (I am not sure about the other countries). To me, this says that EW is committing a crime; and if I knowingly participate in it, I am a criminal too.
All companies are guilty of this, not just ew. If we consider this a criminal offense then we are all criminals.
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Sep 13, 09, 07:25AM
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I've been in jail for three years now. the food sucks and everyone is an *******. it sure is lonely here in the big house. I have a plan to bust loose, though-- I got this rock hammer, and every day...
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Sep 13, 09, 07:40AM
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rustyironchains: I've been in jail for three years now. the food sucks and everyone is an *******. it sure is lonely here in the big house. I have a plan to bust loose, though-- I got this rock hammer, and every day...
You're a riot. >.<
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Edited by: boom8088 Sep 13, 09, 08:04AM
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To OxbridgeResearchers and EW_writer,
I like your point. Perhaps I was too hasty in judging the kind of service we provide. In my judgement, I may have "thrown the baby out with the bathwater".
However, I don't regret leaving EW. They just didn't feel right to me.
Thank you...
Boom
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Sep 13, 09, 08:13AM
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boom8088: I like your point. Perhaps I was too hasty in judging the kind of service we provide. In my judgement, I may have "thrown the baby out with the bathwater". However, I don't regret leaving EW. They just didn't feel right to me.
Cool. Let us know if that "direction" that you say WB led you to went anywhere. :)
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Sep 13, 09, 08:25AM
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boom8088: I don't regret leaving EW. You should not regret it. It was a good decision. You are a capable writer and you know that they are not forthright.
boom8088: They just didn't feel right to me. By no means are they remotely `right.' :)
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Sep 13, 09, 01:33PM
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rustyironchains: I got this rock hammer, and every day... Rusty, if you ever get out, there's this rock up in a Maine hayfield that has no business being in a Maine hayfield. Dig it up.
P.S. It's the field with a tree in it (that part always bugged me).
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Sep 13, 09, 02:52PM
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EW_writer: All companies are guilty of this, not just ew. WRONG.
OxbridgeResearchers: We provide models. Some of us very very clearly (in large print) advise students NOT TO SUBMIT the work as their own. In so doing, they would not only be misusing our services and violating their institution's academic integrity policy but, they would be CHEATING THEMSELVES. Research work provided is supposed to be used as a model. Students can use the same sources we have, the same argument and structure. They, however, have to rewrite it in theor own words and, importantly, add their voice to it ... include class lecture material, etc. We do not sell homework - we provide academic research assistancy services.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 13, 09, 02:59PM
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EW_writer: Yeah, sure. ^_^ FreelanceWriter, pheelyks, and OR, do you think that WB is right in calling me and other competent ESL writers who work for ew and ar as freelance writers, criminals? Wait, OR already gave her answer (no, right?), so that leaves pheelyks and FreelanceWriter. Well? Your twisted questioning is as transparent as glass. Everyone can see that you continue to shape your questions and skew my positions.
1. You serve as an agent of EW. In the eyes of the law, you are not just a "freelance writer."
2. When I refer to EW writers, in general, I am NOT referring to you.
3. This is not a matter of whether or not I am "right." Can't you get that through your thick skull? What I am stating here is legal fact, which OR already acknowledged (not because she is necessarily "on my side" across the board, but because she—unlike you—knows and respects the law of the land):
OxbridgeResearchers: As I said earlier, the law is clear - you are right. This was just my opinion. The law, however, imposes a certain obligation upon employees/service contractors/freelancer - if the company is fraudulent and you have knowledge of that but continue to work with them anyways, you become an accomplice.
So, allow me to clarify yet again: "competent ESL writers who work for EssayWriters.net and Academia-Research.com" are not certain criminals in the eyes of the law until after they become aware of the companies' fraud and knowingly continue to promote and enable the companies' illegal practices. (However, in many cases, ignorance is not an acceptable legal defense in a court of law.)
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Sep 13, 09, 04:59PM
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EW_writer: Your statements mean what you want them to mean, and you change what you want them to mean when you need to.
WritersBeware: Quote me, liar. I changed nothing. I made a statement that applies to EW's writers, in general, not to YOU.
WritersBeware: I contend, specifically, that an unqualified, ESL writer who is aware that the "company" intentionally misrepresents his/her location, skills, and experience is a willing accessory to the calculated fraud campaign and crimes of that company.
WritersBeware: " competent ESL writers who work for EssayWriters.net and Academia-Research.com" are not certain criminals in the eyes of the law until after they become aware of the companies' fraud and knowingly continue to promote and enable the companies' illegal practices.
More?
WritersBeware: By generally excluding foreign applications, companies like ET are protecting American consumers by eliminating any possibility that unqualified, overseas, ESL writers will slip through the cracks.
EW_writer: So you finally admit that ET would never hire foreign writers no matter how qualified they are.
WritersBeware: You want proof that ET sometimes makes exceptions for exceedingly qualified writers in foreign countries? Contact them and ask. I did. You'll get the exact same answer: "Yes."
WritersBeware: As with any company's public employment policy, ET's is in place to let the public masses know the rules concerning which writers can and cannot approach the company for potential employment. However, this public policy has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on whether or not the company privately takes on—from time to time—exceedingly qualified, ESL writers via referral and/or personal connections. Hilarious. ^_^
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 13, 09, 07:15PM
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EW_writer, you are so ignorant that I do not even know where or how to begin highlighting your flawed understanding. Let me just break it down for you, third grade-style:
1. an unqualified, ESL writer who seeks out and/or accepts employment as a "professional" writer-for-hire in the English language is inherently fraudulent; plus, if that unqualified, ESL writer continues to work for a company like EssayWriters.net after becoming aware of the company's illegal activities, the writer becomes an accomplice to the crimes of the company;
2. a qualified, ESL writer who seeks out and/or accepts employment as a "professional" writer-for-hire in the English language is NOT inherently fraudulent; however, if that qualified, ESL writer continues to work for a company like EssayWriters.net after becoming aware of the company's illegal activities, the writer becomes an accomplice to the crimes of the company (by willingly helping the company to generate the revenue that enables the company to perpetuate the cycle of fraud through its majority of unqualified, ESL writers).
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Sep 13, 09, 07:40PM
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EW_writer: Your statements mean what you want them to mean, and you change what you want them to mean when you need to. It's sad but that's who you are, WB. We all know it. Now, why don't you keep your crappy opinions and let the good people here vote on the matter that you asked them to vote on? ^_^
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Sep 13, 09, 07:43PM
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WritersBeware: 2. a qualified, ESL writer who seeks out and/or accepts employment as a "professional" writer-for-hire in the English language is NOT inherently fraudulent; however, if that qualified, ESL writer continues to work for a company like EssayWriters.net after becoming aware of the company's illegal activities, the writer becomes an accomplice to the crimes of the company (by willingly helping the company to generate the revenue that enables the company to perpetuate the cycle of fraud through its majority of unqualified, ESL writers).
No, he doesn't. The writer is still just a writer and his activities are still not criminal, period. Take your defamation tactics elsewhere. :)
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 13, 09, 07:53PM
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EW_writer: No, he doesn't. The writer is still just a writer and his activities are still not criminal, period. Why don't you ask OR, FreelanceWriter, pheelyx, or exwriter (who has a legal background) to relay the LEGAL FACTS to you?
EW_writer: Take your defamation tactics elsewhere. An absolute defense to defamation is truth.
By the way, you clearly have zero knowledge of the law in either the US or the UK, so stop communicating your ignorant conjecture as fact.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 13, 09, 08:00PM
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For the record, OR and pheelyks have already acknowledged that I am correct in my assertion that willing accomplices like you are criminals, as defined by the law. I'm quite certain that both FreelanceWriter and exwriter will convey the same message.
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Sep 13, 09, 08:05PM
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At law, an accomplice is a person who actively participates in the commission of a crime, even though they take no part in the actual criminal offence. For example, in a bank robbery, the person who points the gun at the teller and asks for the money is guilty of armed robbery. However, anyone else directly involved in the commission of the crime, such as the lookout or the getaway car driver, is an accomplice, even though in the absence of an underlying offence keeping a lookout or driving a car would not be an offence.
An accomplice differs from an accessory in that an accomplice is present at the actual crime, and could be prosecuted even if the main criminal (the principal) is not charged or convicted. An accessory is generally not present at the actual crime, and may be subject to lesser penalties than an accomplice or principal.
In older sources, an accomplice was often referred to as an abettor. This term is not in active use, having been replaced by accomplice.
At law, an accomplice has the same degree of guilt as the person he or she is assisting, is subject to prosecution for the same crime, and faces the same criminal penalties. As such, the three accomplices to the bank robbery above can also be found guilty of armed robbery even though only one stole the money.
http://www.uslaw.com/us_law_dictionary/a/Accomplice
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 13, 09, 08:09PM
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Principals and Accomplices
As a general rule, the law refers to the main actor in a crime as the principal [e.g., Universal Research] and to assisting persons as accomplices [e.g., EW_writer]. Technically, an accomplice is one who intentionally helps another to commit a crime.
Even if an accomplice does not carry out the crime, in the eyes of the law the accomplice's pre-crime assistance makes him or her just as guilty as the person who does the deed itself.
Accomplices, Accessories, Aiders and Abettors, and Principals
To distinguish the criminal culpability of one from another, the common law developed specialized terms for the various ways in which one could be an accomplice. For instance, a "principal in the first degree" was the person who actually carried out a crime. A "principal in the second degree" (an "aider and abettor") was a helper who was present at a crime scene but in a passive role, such as acting as a "lookout." An "accessory before the fact" was a helper who was not present at the crime scene. While some state laws retain the common law terminology, few states make any distinction between the criminal liability of crime perpetrators and their accomplices. All can be punished equally, whether they actually perpetrate a crime or only help bring it about.
Accessory After the Fact
An accessory after the fact is someone who, knowing that a felon has finished committing a crime (usually the crime has to be a felony), helps the felon avoid arrest or trial. In most states, accessories after the fact face far less punishment than accomplices or principals.
Conspirators
Conspirators are two or more people who agree to commit a crime. (The distinction between accomplices and conspirators is that the former are "helpers," while each conspirator is a principal.) Conspiracy is a controversial crime, in part because conspirators can be guilty even if the crime that they agree to commit never occurs. As a result, conspirators can be punished for their illegal plans rather than for what they actually do. As some protection against convicting people purely for their private thoughts, in most states conspirators are not guilty of the crime of conspiracy unless at least one of them commits an "overt act." An "overt act" is an activity that in some way moves a conspiracy into motion.
http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimes/a-z/aiding-abetting-accessory-accomplice s.html
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EW_writer, are you going to dispute the law now?
On a related note, many incarcerated criminals maintain that they are innocent, even years into their terms. Why? They do so in the hopes of leaving even the slightest doubt in the minds of the members of the parole board.
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Sep 14, 09, 04:14AM
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WritersBeware: EW_writer, are you going to dispute the law now?
Oh please, until an actual court ruling interprets the law as it applies to writers of offshore essay mills the way you want it to, you can take your legal opinions and shove them where the sun don't shine. ^_^ Again, the customers reading this thread should be aware that WB's agenda is simply to dissuade you from buying from foreign essay mills.
WritersBeware: For the record, OR and pheelyks have already acknowledged that I am correct in my assertion that willing accomplices like you are criminals, as defined by the law. I'm quite certain that both FreelanceWriter and exwriter will convey the same message.
Why don't you quote them where they said so? Then I can show everyone that you've just quoted them partially to make it seem like they were agreeing with you about me. :D
P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C. ^____^
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EW_writer: Again, the customers reading this thread should be aware that WB's agenda is simply to dissuade you from buying from foreign essay mills. Nice try. On numerous occasions, I have openly invited you and your crooked brethren to provide me with verifiable evidence of any American company's involvement in fraud. I have investigated ALL of the significant companies in the US. I found no fraud whatsoever. So, until you prove otherwise, and provide me with JUSTIFICATION to attack an American company (as I rightfully do your fraudulent employer), your accusation is just as empty as your soul.
WritersBeware: EW_writer, are you going to dispute the law now? Hey, I'm a regular Nostradamus! How else could I possibly have known in advance that EW_writer would dispute the validity and applicability of the law?
EW_writer: Why don't you quote them where they said so? Then I can show everyone that you've just quoted them partially to make it seem like they were agreeing with you about me. No problem:
pheelyks: . . . WB could be right in saying that you are technically an accessory to fraud. If that is the case, then you are criminal . . . . http://www.essayscam.org/Forum/9/cnn-doing-good-job-bestessays-com-got-f-12 45/2/#msg20477
OxbridgeResearchers: As I said earlier, the law is clear - you are right. This was just my opinion. The law, however, imposes a certain obligation upon employees/service contractors/freelancer - if the company is fraudulent and you have knowledge of that but continue to work with them anyways, you become an accomplice. http://www.essayscam.org/Forum/9/cnn-doing-good-job-bestessays-com-got-f-12 45/3/#msg20703
Plus, I am quite certain that exwriter, FreelanceWriter, and all other sensible members will agree.
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Sep 14, 09, 04:45PM
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Hi OR,
I remember, in your last reply to me, you said, "Research work provided is supposed to be used as a model. Students can use the same sources we have, the same argument and structure. They, however, have to rewrite it in theor own words and, importantly, add their voice to it ... include class lecture material, etc. We do not sell homework - we provide academic research assistancy services."
I was just thinking... If this is the case, maybe writing companies should take out the "revision request" option from their sites. Since our work should only be used as a "model" for our clients to follow, revising our work upon their request defeats the purpose of, simply, providing a model for them to follow.
Again, just another opinion from my feeble little mind. Uh oh! This is dangerous! Thinking is never a good thing for me. ;)
Cheers!
Boom
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Sep 14, 09, 05:57PM
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boom8088: I remember, in your last reply to me, you said, "Research work provided is supposed to be used as a model. Students can use the same sources we have, the same argument and structure. They, however, have to rewrite it in theor own words and, importantly, add their voice to it ... include class lecture material, etc. We do not sell homework - we provide academic research assistancy services." I was just thinking... If this is the case, maybe writing companies should take out the "revision request" option from their sites. Since our work should only be used as a "model" for our clients to follow, revising our work upon their request defeats the purpose of, simply, providing a model for them to follow. Again, just another opinion from my feeble little mind. Uh oh! This is dangerous! Thinking is never a good thing for me. ;)
Dude... I don't think you're that naive. Companies post those things about "model papers" to protect themselves. In particular, companies based in the U.S. have to make it appear that they don't allow students to submit bought papers for credit on their website because if they did not, they could be held legally accountable in several states. However, do you really think that some student would spend $100 on a 6-page paper and just use it as a reference on his paper which he will still need work on from scratch?
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Sep 14, 09, 06:47PM
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EW_writer: Dude... I don't think you're that naive. Stop being mean to newbies! Whaaahhhhhhhhh!
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 14, 09, 06:57PM
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EW_writer: companies based in the U.S. QUOTES:
1. ". . . we do not make any guarantees regarding your grades and that our agreement is strictly to provide you with an original reference document . . . ."
2. "The research material that we provide to you is available as a unique reference that is designed to assist you in the completion of your assignments . . . ."
3. "The products we provide are reference materials are not intended to be submitted as completed works and are to be used strictly for the purpose of assistance in writing your own assignments."
EW_writer would have people believe that the preceding quotes are from an American site. IN reality, they are from the "Terms and Conditions" page of BestTermPaper.com, one of EW_writer's employer's sites from UKRAINE.
SOURCE: http://www.besttermpaper.com/terms-and-conditions.html
Hey, EW_writer, don't let reality and the facts get in your way! (Is this you "winning" again? LOL!)
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 14, 09, 07:06PM
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Oops, I almost forgot:
Each of these pages has been edited to remove any reference to "Universal Research." Hmmm, I wonder why.
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Sep 14, 09, 07:07PM
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WritersBeware: Stop being mean to newbies! Whaaahhhhhhhhh!
EW_writer: Dude... I don't think you're that naive.
o.O Errr... that's "being mean" in your book? Hey boom, did I offend you?
WritersBeware: 1. ". . . we do not make any guarantees regarding your grades and that our agreement is strictly to provide you with an original reference document . . . ." 2. "The research material that we provide to you is available as a unique reference that is designed to assist you in the completion of your assignments . . . ." 3. "The products we provide are reference materials are not intended to be submitted as completed works and are to be used strictly for the purpose of assistance in writing your own assignments."[/b] EW_writer would have people believe that the preceding quotes are from an American site. IN reality, they are from the "Terms and Conditions" page of BestTermPaper.com, one of EW_writer's employer's sites from UKRAINE.
There you go again posting things and making them seem to matter when they don't. I already said:
EW_writer: Companies post those things about "model papers" to protect themselves. In particular, companies based in the U.S. have to make it appear that they don't allow students to submit bought papers for credit on their website because if they did not, they could be held legally accountable in several states.
Did I say that only U.S. sites post such things? No.
So yes, you lose again. >.<
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 14, 09, 07:09PM
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EW_writer: Did I say that only U.S. sites post such things? No.
EW_writer: In particular, companies based in the U.S. You have been making this failed argument for months—that "US companies will bust you out" and/or "US companies won't let you cheat."
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 14, 09, 07:15PM
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The bottom line: your employer is currently scared sh*tless, and for very good reason. The noose is tightening, which is why Yuri is doing his best to obfuscate, hide, and edit every piece of evidence that he can. What's funny is that his clean-up efforts are useless. Everything has already been catalogued, and now CNN representatives can receive a subpoena to testify, as can the innocent owner of the Virginia house of which EssayWriters.net stole the physical address.
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