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Cubby   Nov 25, 08, 06:47AM | #1
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Hey all,

I am currently looking into getting Bigpapers to assist me with a paper, but I'm not sure if the website is legitimate or not. The only reasons that make me a little suspicious is because I a e-mailed the place about 2 weeks ago with some general questions and I still have not received a response. So if anyone could clarify this that would be great. In addition, if anyone has actually ever used that website would they be able to give me a little bit of feedback.

On the other hand, the only thing I am trying to really find is a legitimate site to get a excellent paper from. If anyone here has a different website that they think is great please tell me.

The only other question I have is it about filling out the fields for the order forms. First, my paper is supposed to be 2500 word or 10 pages double spaced and I am writing it for a elite private school for my final year. Do most places write 250 words per page or 500? And for the level of paper should I select College Freshman? Finally, for the topic is it possible for me to just put in the thesis statement I would like?

If anyone could please help me I would dearly appreciate the assistance.

Thanks a lot!
FreelanceWriter Writer Edited by: FreelanceWriter   Nov 26, 08, 08:37PM | #2
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Most essay sites give you 250-275 words/pg. Some go as high as 300, but we writers don't really count words as we write: we write a standard double-spaced page without skipping any lines, which usually comes out to about 25 lines of text per page. My papers sometimes go a little longer than the pages ordered because it can take more time to tie things up in exactly the number of pages ordered than to just finish a last paragraph on the next page About once a year I get a request for an additional 50 words or whatever because the customer actually counted them but nobody ever asks about paying us extra when it goes over.

There's not much difference between HS senior level and college freshman, but when in doubt, go with the higher one.

Hope that helps.
Lavinia   Nov 26, 08, 11:38PM | #3
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I would suggest simply putting the word requirement in your order. A reputable company should be able to fulfill it or tell you how many pages will be needed to make your word count.

When I get an order, I always watch word count to make sure customers get what they pay for. I treat it as a minimum unless otherwise stated.
FreelanceWriter Writer Edited by: FreelanceWriter   Nov 27, 08, 03:01PM | #4
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Lavinia:
I would suggest simply putting the word requirement in your order. A reputable company should be able to fulfill it or tell you how many pages will be needed to make your word count.
Most reputable companies also include all the info about how many words/pg they provide right in their website details. Specifying that you want more than that is a waste of your time just like the orders I see sometimes where the student asks for "5 single spaced pages" even though the sites clearly say that they provide double spaced pages. If I take those orders I always ask the customer whether they want to pay for the extra pages and they almost always don't, because it's simply an attempt to get twice as much work for the money by "specifying" things that contradict the stated policies. Maybe once out of 10 times they thank me for the alert and actually pay for the additional work; the rest of the time, they were just trying to "specify" a 50% discount for themselves.

Also, you don't want to be obnoxious in your specifications: I sometimes see orders for perfectly good subjects that no writer ever takes off the board because the order specifies exactly how many sentences per paragraph and exactly how many paragraphs per page, and exactly how many citations per paragraph, and exactly how many quotes, etc. We do this for a living; you're placing an order because you aren't that good at writing; so, just let us write it.

If you're such an expert at outlining papers, why would you need to pay anybody else to provide a model paper? Do you tell your car mechanic how many turns you want on each screw or do you just ask him to fix your leak? You can add all the detailed specs you want to, but if you go crazy with that, don't be too surprised when no writer wants to bother with your paper and you just get a refund and no paper, especially during the busy season.
WritersBeware Edited by: WritersBeware   Nov 27, 08, 03:06PM | #5
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Tell 'em like it is!

Your post would fit well here:
http://www.essayscam.org/Forum/9_747_0.html
FreelanceWriter Writer Edited by: FreelanceWriter   Nov 27, 08, 03:48PM | #6
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Perfect example of what NOT to do if you want your order to be taken ASAP by an experienced writer who gets plenty of work and doesn't need to spend twice as much time writing a paper because of your specs, not to mention dealing with the inevitable headache of a rewrite request because it was impossible to fulfill every one of your specs within the number of pages ordered. Chances are, if someone takes this order it's not a writer who does this fulltime, but someone who writes fewer papers just to supplement his or her income. This is a very simple 4-pg paper, in one of my top specialty areas no less, but I ain't takin' it because of all this:

"14 Paragraphs or more

PARAGRAPH 1- Seven or more sentences to get the audience's attention and strongly state my position on the issue.
PARAGRAPH 2- Acknowledge that there are arguments in opposition and in three or more sentences, name those counter-arguments.
PARAGRAPHS 3,4,5- Describe the argument named in paragraph 2, in three well-developed paragraphs.
PARAGRAPH 6- Transition paragraph, state that although the counter-arguments have some strengths, they also have weaknesses.
PARAGRAPHS 7,8,9- In these paragraphs point out the weaknesses in the counter-arguments you describe in paragraphs 3, 4, and 5.
PARAGRAPH 10- Transition paragraph describing in three or more sentences, your arguments.
PARAGRAPHS 11,12,13- In these three paragraphs describe and support each of your arguments.
PARAGRAPH 14- In at least five sentences close the paper."

I don't need any help from a college freshman organizing a simple 4-pg paper and if he/she knew how to write the paper, it wouldn't have to be ordered from an essay site. I don't think it's even possible to comply with all those specs without exceeding the pages ordered. Seven sentences in the introductory paragraph, for example, will make it virtually impossible to meet all the other specs in 4 pgs unless your sentences are constructed at a grade-school level.
alice   Nov 27, 08, 04:46PM | #7
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FreelanceWriter, I am more than sure that these are specifications of the tutor, not student himself :)
FreelanceWriter Writer Edited by: FreelanceWriter   Nov 27, 08, 08:30PM | #8
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I didn't think so only because all the pronouns are first-person. Usually if there are specs from the instructor, they just paste them without changing the voice. In that case, the only problem is that those specs require more than the # of pages ordered.

Because of that, I can't just take the paper...I gotta first bother the company to contact the cutomer and ask about authorizing deviating from the specs or adding a few pages to the order.
Lavinia   Nov 27, 08, 09:45PM | #9
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I agree with FW on that order - when I see so many instructions, my eyes glaze over and I look elsewhere.

Customers should think about the amount of trouble that such instructions will cause - a writer won't get paid more for following them versus another paper of the same number of pages that doesn't have such ridiculous instructions. Those of us who are busy will pick the one without instructions every time.

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