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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 9, 09, 03:59AM
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The Chronicle of Higher Education, a well-respected, academic media outlet has now OUTED "Universal Research" through an in-depth, six-month-long, undercover investigation.
Add this brilliant, third-party evidence to the already-massive yet still-growing list of devastating, public, verifiable evidence against Universal Research.
The first lawsuit that gets filed against Universal Research will almost certainly put all of the company's current sites out of business due to fraudulent business practices.
http://chronicle.com/free/v55/i28/28a00102.htm
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Jun 9, 09, 06:00AM
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Hey students, what does WB's article prove?
"The company, known as Essay Writers, sells so-called custom essays, meaning that its employees will write a paper to a student's specifications for a per-page fee. These papers, unlike those plucked from online databases, are invisible to plagiarism-detection software."
We provide quality papers undetectable by plagiarism software.
"Go to Google and type "buy an essay." Among the top results will be Best Essays, whose slogan is "Providing Students with Original Papers since 1997." It's a professional-looking site with all the bells and whistles: live chat, flashy graphics, stock photos of satisfied students. Best Essays promises to deliver "quality custom written papers" by writers with either a master's degree or a Ph.D. Prices range from $19.99 to $42.99 per page, depending on deadline and difficulty."
We're one of the best at what we do.
"Most essay mills claim that they're only providing "model" papers and that students don't really turn in what they buy. Mr. Robbins, who has a law degree and now attends nursing school, knows that's not true. In some cases, he says, customers have forgotten to put their names at the top of the papers he's written before turning them in. Although he takes pride in the writing he's done over the years, he doesn't have much respect for the students who use the service. "These are kids whose parents pay for college," he says. "I'll take their money. It's not like they're going to learn anything anyway."
All the more reason why you should buy from foreign companies.. unless you want to end up like that student from Boston U. ^_^
"Like Nigeria. Paul Arhewe lives in Lagos, that nation's largest city, and started writing for essay mills in 2005. Back then he didn't have his own computer and had to do all of his research and writing in Internet cafes. Now he works as an online editor for a newspaper, but he still writes essays on the side. In the past three years, he's written more than 200 papers for American and British students. In an online chat, Mr. Arhewe insisted that the work he does is not unethical. "I believe it is another way of learning for the smart and hardworking students," he writes. Only lazy students, Mr. Arhewe says, turn in the papers they purchase.
Mr. Arhewe started writing for Essay Writers after another essay mill cheated him out of several hundred dollars. That incident notwithstanding, he's generally happy with the work and doesn't complain about the pay. He makes between $100 and $350 a month writing essays — not exactly a fortune, but in a country like Nigeria, where more than half the population lives on less than a dollar a day, it's not too bad either."
We have the best foreign writers on board. ^_^
"Mr. Tomar, the philosophy-and-religion major who bought a paper for his New Testament class, still doesn't think students should have to do their own research. But he has soured on essay mills after the paper he received from Essay Writers did not meet his expectations. He complained, and the company gave him a 30-percent refund. As a result, he had an epiphany of sorts. Says Mr. Tomar: "I was like — you know what? — I'm going to write this paper on my own.""
It doesn't always turn out well but hey, nobody's perfect. What you should do is find a writer that you're comfortable with and stick with him/her.
"Some institutions, most notably Boston University, have made efforts to shut down essay mills and expose their customers. "
And they did. It ended up with at least one student getting caught. Where did this student by his paper? Well.. NOT from a foreign company. THAT'S for sure. ^_^
"Their paper concludes that because there is almost never any solid evidence of wrongdoing, catching and disciplining students is the exception."
It is you who are in gravest danger, not us. So make sure you cover your tracks well. American companies won't let you cover your tracks because they are bound by law to keep records of their business. Your credit card numbers or paypal account names may stay with any company, but it's the U.S. based companies that will give you up when threatened.
Snaps to WritersBeware for providing anotehr excellent article. (Ready for another "business trip" to hatchet worker school? :p)
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| pheelyks |
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Jun 9, 09, 10:18AM
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This article also shows that even when a customer (Mr. Tomar) received a paper that was unacceptable, he only got a 30% refund. The protection of using an American company is that they are bound by law--they have to give a refund for an inferior product.
For writers, Mr. Arhewe's story is also quite telling. If the company he is working for charges between $20-$40 per page, and he makes between $100-$350 a month, they must be paying him well under half of what they're charging (I'm assuming he write more than 10 pages a month). It might still be a good salary in Nigeria, but the companies are keeping huge amounts of profits and not using them to hire more reliable writers. Even their website is fairly obviously written by a foreigner--there are no glaring errors in syntax or grammar, but plenty of run on sentences and odd phrases ("Maybe you are not interested or just have nothing in common with literature or creative writing?). This should be a clue that the company cares a lot more about money than quality.
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Jun 9, 09, 10:32AM
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pheelyks: This article also shows that even when a customer (Mr. Tomar) received a paper that was unacceptable, he only got a 30% refund. The protection of using an American company is that they are bound by law--they have to give a refund for an inferior product.
Yes it does, I also addressed this in my post.
pheelyks: For writers, Mr. Arhewe's story is also quite telling. If the company he is working for charges between $20-$40 per page, and he makes between $100-$350 a month, they must be paying him well under half of what they're charging (I'm assuming he write more than 10 pages a month). It might still be a good salary in Nigeria, but the companies are keeping huge amounts of profits and not using them to hire more reliable writers. Even their website is fairly obviously written by a foreigner--there are no glaring errors in syntax or grammar, but plenty of run on sentences and odd phrases ("Maybe you are not interested or just have nothing in common with literature or creative writing?). This should be a clue that the company cares a lot more about money than quality.
But the fact remains that Mr. Arhewe is a highly competent writer who is satisfied with the pay he is receiving. I work for essaywrtiers.net myself but make much more than Mr. Arhewe does on the average, but that's probably because I take in more work than he does. You can criticize bestessays' website all day long but you can't deny that the company does have good people writing for them. What you didn't factor into the equation is that people like Mr. Arhewe work for essaywriters.net because they don't have any other alternatives. Companies like ET don't hire off-shore writers regardless of how good they are.
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Jun 9, 09, 10:47AM
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EW_writer: Companies like ET don't hire off-shore writers regardless of how good they are.
That's largely due to employment laws, I'm sure, rather than the xenophobia you keep implying.
EW_writer: But the fact remains that Mr. Arhewe is a highly competent writer who is satisfied with the pay he is receiving.
That wasn't my point. Mr. Arhewe might be satisfied with his pay, but that doesn't make it fair. It would "work out" a lot more often if these companies were willing to cut into their profits a little and hire better writers. Some of their writers might be good, but many of them are not--I am speaking from direct, personal experience, not making any generalizations based on national origin.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 9, 09, 03:28PM
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Gotta love EW_writer's HIGHLY selective quoting, eh?
EW_writer: what does WB's article prove?
It's not "WB's" article. The article is the product of a major media outlet, and it will serve the public's cause quite nicely when the law comes a knockin'. You're just too ignorant to recognize the deeper, long-term, legal impact of the article.
EW_writer: We provide quality papers undetectable by plagiarism software.
Big deal—you're bragging about something that is STANDARD PRACTICE in the industry. (Now, however, you re-sell the papers through MightyStudents.com. You did not admit such until you got OUTED in this forum and decided that you had no choice but to EDIT the customer contract on your "custom essay" sites to acknowledge that you resell the papers. Sorry, but your attempt to maintain the LIE that you do not resell papers in order to fool customers into ordering never had a chance. Darn—that scam got outed (not even by me) before it really had a chance to get off the ground. OOPS—sucks for you!
EW_writer: We're one of the best at what we do.
Yes, you are certainly the best at what you do. I concede that you are the best at lying, cheating, stealing, fabricating, etc. I would never take that well-earned title away from you.
As far as writing skills are concerned, you're not in the same class as the legit, American companies—period. How many writers do you have that are better than pheelyks, Lavinia, FreelanceWriter, etc? In fact, ET's staff includes many writers who can surely give me a run for my money, and some who are outright BETTER than me. ET only hires North American and British writers of such high caliber because ET—unlike your deceptive employer—actually cares about consumer rights, fair/accurate advertising, and CONSISTENT QUALITY (ordering shouldn't be a crap shoot for customers; each customer should receive a top-notch paper every time, regardless of which writer happens to take the order).
EW_writer: All the more reason why you should buy from foreign companies.. unless you want to end up like that student from Boston U. ^_^
EssayWriters.net's (Universal Research's) many fake, "corporate offices" are virtual offices in the US. Their articles of incorporation are based on "US" addresses. An investigation by any government agency or legal party would indicate that Universal Research is a "US" company. Because the owners of EssayWriters.net are Ukrainian liars who falsely claim to be physically based in the US (but do CONDUCT BUSINESS in the US), Universal Research will be subject to American laws, subpoenas, and jurisdiction. The FACT that they are physically located in Ukraine makes NO DIFFERENCE to American courts. Indeed, once the judge is presented with some of the abundant evidence of corporate fraud and fake addresses that Universal Research from Ukraine advertises in order to deceive American consumers and unfairly compete with legitimate companies in the US, the judge will have ABSOLUTELY NO MERCY on them. As evidenced by legal precedent in 2008, the owners of a fraudulent essay company in Pakistan (or Ukraine) may be able to avoid monetary judgement because of jurisdiction barriers, but their SITES (which is all they really care about) absolutely WILL be banned by all search engines, WILL be banned by all advertising outlets, and the ownership of which WILL be transferred to the opposing party. When faced with a lawsuit and/or subpoena, which option do you think that Universal Research will choose, without the slightest hesitation?
A. hide all of its customers' information, despite the demands of a US Federal Court, thereby forfeiting ownership of all of its Web sites by default judgment;
B. promptly hand over the information and stay in business.
You guessed it—Option B!
EW_writer: We have the best foreign writers on board. ^_^
LOL! I think that most members are quite familiar with the slew of EW's completely incompetent, foreign writers who have posted in this forum, as well as the constant stream of customer complaints—here and elsewhere—about the POOR QUALITY provided by those writers.
EW_writer: American companies won't let you cover your tracks because they are bound by law to keep records of their business. Your credit card numbers or paypal account names may stay with any company, but it's the U.S. based companies that will give you up when threatened.
Mod, this is brazen defamation—period. I have already explained, in great detail, why his egregious misrepresentations and blatantly false statements of fact are ILLEGAL.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 9, 09, 04:33PM
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Although I was mildly entertained by EW_writer's failed attempt to "spin" the incredibly revealing article through selective quoting, I have decided to pluck the gems that constitute the focus of the Chronicle of Higher Education article:
"The Chronicle looked closely at one company [Universal Research (BestEssays.com, SuperiorPapers.com, EssayWriters.net, etc.)], tracking its orders, examining its records, contacting its customers."
"To place an order, you describe your assignment, the number of pages, and how quickly you need it. Then you enter your credit-card number, and, a couple of days later, the paper shows up in your in box. . . . What's going on behind the scenes, however, is another story."
"The address listed on the site is in Reston, Va. But it turns out that's the address of a company that allows clients to rent "virtual office space" — in other words, to claim they're somewhere they're not. A previous address used by Best Essays was a UPS store in an upscale strip mall. And while the phone number for Best Essays has a Virginia area code, that line is registered to a company that allows customers to forward calls anywhere in the world over the Internet."
"The same contact information appears on multiple other essay-mill Web sites with names like Rush Essay, Superior Papers, and Best Term Paper. All of these sites are operated by Universal Research Inc., also known as Essay Writers. The 'US/Canada Headquarters' for the company, according to yet another Web site, is in Herndon, Va. An Essay Writers representative told a reporter that the company's North American headquarters was a seven-story building with an attached garage and valet parking. . . . That was a lie. Drive to the address, and you will find a perfectly ordinary suburban home with a neatly trimmed front lawn and a two-car garage. The owner of the house is Victor Guevara and, ever since he bought it in 2004, he has received lots of strange mail. For instance, a calendar recently arrived titled "A Stroll Through Ukrainian Cities," featuring photographs of notable buildings in Odessa and Yalta. Not all of the missives, however, have been so benign. Once a police officer came to the door bearing a complaint from a man in India who hadn't been paid by Essay Writers. Mr. Guevara explained to the officer that he had no idea what the man was talking about. . . . So why, of all the addresses in the United States, was Mr. Guevara's chosen? He's not sure, but he has a theory. Before he bought the house, a woman named Olga Mizyuk lived there for a short time. The previous owner, a friend of Mr. Guevara's, let her stay rent free because she was down on her luck and she promised to teach him Russian. Mr. Guevara believes it's all somehow connected to Ms. Mizyuk. . . . That theory is not too far-fetched. The state of Virginia listed Olga Mizyuk as the agent of Universal Research LLC when it was formed in 2006, though that registration has since lapsed (it's now incorporated in Virginia with a different agent). The company was registered for a time in Nevada, but that is no longer valid either. The managing member of the Nevada company, according to state records, was Yuriy Mizyuk. Mr. Guevara remembers that Ms. Mizyuk spoke of a son named Yuriy. Could that all be a coincidence?"
"Call any of the company's several phone numbers and you will always get an answer. Weekday or weekend, day or night. The person on the other end will probably be a woman named Crystal or Stephanie. She will speak stilted, heavily accented English, and she will reveal nothing about who owns the company or where it is located. She will be unfailingly polite and utterly unhelpful. . . . If pressed, Crystal or Stephanie will direct callers to a manager named Raymond. But Raymond is almost always either out of the office or otherwise engaged. When, after weeks of calls, The Chronicle finally reached Raymond, he hung up the phone before answering any questions."
"Essay Writers appears to have been originally based in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine. While the company claims to have been in business since 1997, its Web sites have only been around since 2004."
"The company's customer-service center is located on the 17th floor of the Burgundy Corporate Tower in the financial district of Makati City, part of the Manila metropolitan area."
"Some of the company's writers work in its Makati City offices. Essay Writers claims to have more than 200 writers, which may be true when freelancers are counted. A dozen or so, according to a former writer, work in the office, where they are reportedly paid between $1 and $3 a page — much less than its American writers, and a small fraction of the $20 or $30 per page customers shell out."
"It's difficult to know for sure who runs Essay Writers, but the name Yuriy Mizyuk comes up again and again. Mr. Mizyuk is listed as the contact name on the domain registration for essaywriters.net, the Web site where writers for the company log in to receive their assignments. A lawsuit was filed in January against Mr. Mizyuk and Universal Research by a debt-collection company. Repeated attempts to reach him — via phone and e-mail — were unsuccessful."
"Mr. Robbins . . . finds an assignment that's to his liking, he clicks the 'Take Order' button. 'I took one on Christological topics in the second and third centuries,' he remembers. 'I didn't even know what that meant. I had to look it up on Wikipedia.'" (Wow, EssayWriters.net allows writers to take orders on topics for which they are woefully unqualified to write, and they get their info from WIKIPEDIA!)
"Most of the users who log into [EssayWriters.net] are based in India, according to Alexa, a company that tracks Internet traffic." (No customers visit EssayWriters.net, only WRITERS.)
"'[Universal Research (BestEssays.com, SuperiorPapers.com, EssayWriters.net, etc.)] made some suggestions, and I took their advice,' [Ms. Dirr] says. Unfortunately, Ms. Dirr says, the paper 'wasn't up to the level my professor was hoping for.'"
"[Ms. Cohea] says she wasn't planning to turn in the paper as her own; instead, she says, she was only going to use it to get ideas." (Just thought I'd include this quote to further prove wrong EW_writer's absurd claim that "ALL" students who buy example papers use them to cheat.)
"[Ms. Cohea] was not happy with the paper Essay Writers provided. It seemed, she says, to have been written by a non-native English speaker. 'I could tell they were Asian or something just by the grammar and stuff,' she says."
"[Mr. Tomar] has soured on essay mills after the paper he received from [Universal Research (BestEssays.com, SuperiorPapers.com, EssayWriters.net, etc.)] did not meet his expectations. He complained, and the company gave him a 30-percent refund." (When a customer complains after receiving GARBAGE, they finally give a 30% refund. Disgusting! Legitimate companies give 100% refunds—plus free papers—when a customer has experienced a legitimate problem.)
As many have stated, any truly qualified, American writers who fall for EssayWriters.net's rosy promises tend to leave the "company" fairly quickly, as such writers refuse to accept the absurdly LOW PAY and cannot in good conscience tolerate the deception and/or fraud that they witness behind-the-scenes. These sentiments have been echoed many times by various members of this forum. Similarly, the "good" writers who are referenced in the article appear to have already QUIT writing for EssayWriters.net:
"[James Robbins] most recent gig was for Essay Writers."
"Eventually the low pay forced [Mr. Parmenter] to quit."
So much for EW_writer's claim of maintaining the "best writers."
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Jun 9, 09, 05:05PM
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Oh, but WB's quoting is also highly selective. ^_^ Let's leave it to clients to actually read the article and judge for themselves, shall we? Oh, and by the way:
WritersBeware: So much for EW_writer's claim of maintaining the "best writers."
Two words: Paul Arhewe
Who's selectively quoting now? :p
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pheelyks: The protection of using an American company is that they are bound by law--they have to give a refund for an inferior product.
Since when writing is "a product"? Who should be the judge if the writing SERVICE (not product) is inferior? Writing is art like painting, not a product.
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The essay itself is a product. This is what I provide. But does this semantic argument really matter?
Also, as to the subjectivity of writing, there are a few points the show your argument to be rather empty. First, let's assume that it is like painting. True, no one can judge a specific painting as definitively "bad" and another as "good," because taste is individual (i.e. subjective), but if I tried to draw the same picture as an artist most people would almost certainly decide that the artist's shows more quality and skill. There is a definite level of objectivity.
Second, the entire industry is based on the fact that someone--i.e. the teachers--ARE judging what students write. If they just threw up their hands and said "who am I to judge?", the students could get away with writing poorly researched and poorly written papers and still earn academic credit, and wouldn't need to use our services.
There are some other errors in logic in your posting, but these are the most glaring.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 9, 09, 07:33PM
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EW_writer: Two words: Paul Arhewe
LOL! You really do have to try a bit harder to make your defeats slightly more difficult for me to accomplish.
Mr. Arhewe may be a nice guy, but—judging from brief quotes in the article—his English language writing, in my opinion, leaves a whole lot to be desired. Indeed, the author of the article communicated exactly that:
"While his English isn't quite perfect, it's passable . . . ."
His work may be "passable" to other ESL people, but sure as heck not to Americans who have even an average grasp of the language. Regardless, a "professional" writer's work should NEVER be merely "passable." What a JOKE!
EW_writer, you lose—for the 894th time.
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Jun 9, 09, 08:00PM
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WritersBeware: Mr. Arhewe may be a nice guy, but—judging from brief quotes in the article—his English language writing, in my opinion, leaves a whole lot to be desired. Indeed, the author of the article communicated exactly that: "While his English isn't quite perfect, it's passable . . . ." His work may be "passable" to other ESL people, but sure as heck not to Americans who have even an average grasp of the language. Regardless, a "professional" writer's work should NEVER be merely "passable." What a JOKE!
Hey great because you know what, a lot of our clients have English as a Second language themselves and would appreciate Mr. Arhewe's writing style along with his research skills.
^____^
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 9, 09, 08:04PM
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EW_writer: Hey great because you know what, a lot of our clients have English as a Second language themselves and would appreciate Mr. Arhewe's writing style along with his research skills.
Hey, that IS great—so why don't you openly and honestly ADVERTISE it? I'll tell you why: it's more valuable for you to deceive and rip-off American consumers than to honestly cater to ESL consumers.
You lose—for the 892nd time.
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Edited by: EW_writer Jun 9, 09, 08:15PM
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From message 11
WritersBeware: EW_writer, you lose—for the 894th time.
From message 13
WritersBeware: You lose—for the 892nd time.
LOL! If I lose 893 more times, would I end up winning? :p My advice: go back to grade school and actually learn your ordinal numbers. Did you rely on homework help for ALL the mathematics subjects you ever took in your life? Sigh...
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 9, 09, 08:39PM
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EW_writer: LOL! If I lose 893 more times, would I end up winning? :p My advice: go back to grade school and actually learn your ordinal numbers. Did you rely on homework help for ALL the mathematics subjects you ever took in your life? Sigh...
Everyone, feast your eyes on yet another "great victory" for EW_writer over WritersBeware.
What a moron . . . . What kind of a desperate loser would even call-out something like that? Wait, I know what kind a loser—one who is trying to hide the fact that he keeps getting pummeled from all angles:
WritersBeware: Hey, that IS great—so why don't you openly and honestly ADVERTISE it? I'll tell you why: it's more valuable for you to deceive and rip-off American consumers than to honestly cater to ESL consumers. |
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WritersBeware: What a moron . . . .
Errr.. I'd call anyone above the age of 30 who doesn't know how to count a moron and I'd probably be clinically correct, moron. :p
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Jun 10, 09, 12:44PM
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Again, your desperation is amusing.
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WritersBeware: Again, your desperation is amusing.
From message 11
WritersBeware: EW_writer, you lose—for the 894th time.
From message 13
WritersBeware: You lose—for the 892nd time.
Can't accept that 892nd comes before and not after 894th and that there's an 893rd between them? Sigh.... it's not Abstract Algebra, you know...
Moron.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 10, 09, 06:49PM
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As usual, EW_writer tries to take the thread off-topic with complete nonsense in order to distract from his employer's OUTED FRAUD.
Can someone PLEASE point-out to this drunken fool that I was obviously just throwing out light-hearted, random numbers of losses as a symbolic representation of the innumerable, intertwined, and often indistinguishable beatings that I have doled out to the idiot? Plus, since he keeps GOING BACKWARDS and REPEATING previously crushed lies and false accusations, perhaps it's befitting that we all intentionally pay no heed to numerical order, as he tries his best to make certain that order, precedent, and reason carry NO SIGNIFICANCE, anyway?
Dumb*ss.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 10, 09, 07:04PM
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WritersBeware: Why don't you openly and honestly ADVERTISE [that you employ almost entirely ESL writers]? I'll tell you why: it's more profitable for you to deceive and rip-off American consumers than to honestly cater to ESL consumers. |
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WritersBeware: As usual, EW_writer tries to take the thread off-topic with complete nonsense in order to distract from his employer's OUTED FRAUD.
Oh c'mon... I just found it really funny that you didn't know how to count and just wanted to share it with the rest of the good folks here. ^_^ The fact that you continue to feel affected by my comment merely substantiates my claim that you are in fact, a moron who can't count.
Back to topic:
EW_writer: Hey great because you know what, a lot of our clients have English as a Second language themselves and would appreciate Mr. Arhewe's writing style along with his research skills. ^____^
WritersBeware: Hey, that IS great—so why don't you openly and honestly ADVERTISE it? I'll tell you why: it's more valuable for you to deceive and rip-off American consumers than to honestly cater to ESL consumers.
Clients don't care about whether English is our first or second language so long as we can write in the language according to their needs.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 10, 09, 08:29PM
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I'm still waiting for EW_writer to post one of those polls that you like so much . . . you know, the one in which you ask which one of us people TRUST and BELIEVE.
Can someone PLEASE point-out to this drunken fool that I was obviously just throwing out light-hearted, random numbers of losses as a symbolic representation of the innumerable, intertwined, and often indistinguishable beatings that I have doled out to the idiot? Plus, since he keeps GOING BACKWARDS and REPEATING previously crushed lies and false accusations, perhaps it's befitting that we all intentionally pay no heed to numerical order, as he tries his best to make certain that order, precedent, and reason carry NO SIGNIFICANCE, anyway?
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 10, 09, 08:33PM
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EW_writer: Clients don't care about whether English is our first or second language so long as we can write in the language according to their needs.
Translation:
"I get to dictate what's best for consumers, without their knowledge."
"Customers have NO RIGHT to know the truth."
"Customers have NO RIGHT to make informed purchasing decisions."
"Customers have NO RIGHT to choose to 'buy American'."
"All ESL writers are as skilled as me, EW_writer (which isn't saying much in the first place)."
"Customers should enjoy paying for the privilege of engaging in a handicapped, 10-to-1 odds crap shoot every time they order from Universal Research."
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Jun 10, 09, 09:34PM
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Let me put it this way, I've had literally thousands of clients and very rarely have I ever encountered clients who weren't satisfied with my work. Furthermore, the clients who were not satisfied with my work were almost always those who demanded extra work outside of what was agreed upon in the original project description (like what pheelyks encountered).
WritersBeware: Can someone PLEASE point-out to this drunken fool that I was obviously just throwing out light-hearted, random numbers of losses
Hahaha.. why are you so sore about this? So you can't count.. big deal. Lots of people can't, even in the U.S. :)
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Jun 10, 09, 10:20PM
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More proof that EW_writer spits on consumer rights:
http://www.essayscam.org/Forum/9_1092_0.html#msg16202
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Jun 10, 09, 11:04PM
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EW_writer: Let me put it this way, I've had literally thousands of clients and very rarely have I ever encountered clients who weren't satisfied with my work. Furthermore, the clients who were not satisfied with my work were almost always those who demanded extra work outside of what was agreed upon in the original project description (like what pheelyks encountered). |
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Jun 11, 09, 12:24AM
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WritersBeware: EW_writer: Clients don't care about whether English is our first or second language so long as we can write in the language according to their needs. Translation: "I get to dictate what's best for consumers, without their knowledge." "Customers have NO RIGHT to know the truth." "Customers have NO RIGHT to make informed purchasing decisions." "Customers have NO RIGHT to choose to 'buy American'." "All ESL writers are as skilled as me, EW_writer (which isn't saying much in the first place)." "Customers should enjoy paying for the privilege of engaging in a handicapped, 10-to-1 odds crap shoot every time they order from Universal Research." |
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Jun 11, 09, 02:02AM
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EW_writer: Let me put it this way, I've had literally thousands of clients and very rarely have I ever encountered clients who weren't satisfied with my work. Furthermore, the clients who were not satisfied with my work were almost always those who demanded extra work outside of what was agreed upon in the original project description (like what pheelyks encountered).
Hahaha!
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Jun 11, 09, 02:13AM
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Congratulations on having the comprehension skills of a chimp.
FYI, the square goes in the square hole.
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Jun 11, 09, 03:29AM
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WritersBeware: FYI, the square goes in the square hole.
Hey... go right ahead.
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Jun 16, 09, 09:32PM
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I found more information, are they related to midterm.us/customwritings.com?
But while the company's management may be publicity shy, sources familiar with its operations were able to shed some light. Essay Writers appears to have been originally based in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine. While the company claims to have been in business since 1997, its Web sites have only been around since 2004. In 2007 it opened offices in the Philippines, where it operates under the name Uniwork.
http://blogs.inquirer.net/current/2009/05/20/the-globalization-of-essay-mil ls/
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Jul 17, 09, 05:51AM
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hahaha, I completely agree with you WritersBeware, just ignore that fool!
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Jul 17, 09, 09:49AM
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usually a business either screws the writer or the customer-- essaywriters.net does both.
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Jul 19, 09, 02:10AM
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WritersBeware: "Mr. Robbins . . . finds an assignment that's to his liking, he clicks the 'Take Order' button. 'I took one on Christological topics in the second and third centuries,' he remembers. 'I didn't even know what that meant. I had to look it up on Wikipedia.'" (Wow, EssayWriters.net allows writers to take orders on topics for which they are woefully unqualified to write, and they get their info from WIKIPEDIA!)
I can see how you arrived at the conclusion that I used Wikipedia for my research. This is not the case. I merely utilized Wikipedia to understand what the hell Christological topics were. I would never use Wikipedia as a source.
Everything negative said about essaywriters is unfortunately true. I was paid, but often it would take some serious arm twisting. No writer should have to jump through endless hoops to receive the money owed to them. Also, I was witness to some of the worst papers imaginable submitted by so-called "writers." Many were obviously cut and paste jobs, and here I was actually researching and writing. Imagine that? The pay was paltry at best, and I rarely took a job unless the pay was substantial. Some of the pay scales were outrageous. I remember one where it was a 5 page paper, and the pay was .90 cents a page! $4.50 for the entire assignment!
This EW writer fellow sounds like your usual writer clinging to a few hundred a month and hoping the site never disappears. It appears that is his meal ticket. EW...some advice for you...if you are a good writer might I suggest you think your writing to be worth more than a few hundred a month? WritersBeware seems to know his/her kaka. You research these people this much? The Chronicle should have interviewed you for the article.
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Jul 19, 09, 05:36AM
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nurseuniverse: This EW writer fellow sounds like your usual writer clinging to a few hundred a month and hoping the site never disappears. It appears that is his meal ticket. EW...some advice for you...if you are a good writer might I suggest you think your writing to be worth more than a few hundred a month?
I write for essaywriters.net at a rate of at least $10 to over $50/page. ^_^ The only exceptions to my $10/page rule are PowerPoint presentations and math tests. Still, if you have other companies that you want to suggest, feel free to send me a message about them. :)
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Jul 19, 09, 05:41AM
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EW_writer: Still, if you have other companies that you want to suggest, feel free to send me a message about them. :)
It depends....
Are you a native English speaker? If not then stay with essaywriters because they are the only people who will keep you on the payroll.
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Jul 19, 09, 08:07AM
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nurseuniverse: Are you a native English speaker? If not then stay with essaywriters because they are the only people who will keep you on the payroll.
Nope, I wasn't born to the language if that's what you're asking. ^_^ Anyway, thank you for proving my point. :)
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Edited by: EW_writer Jul 19, 09, 08:29AM
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Funny though, when you "advised" me to think of my writing as being worth more than a few hundred bucks a month (I actually make a monthly average of close to a couple o' grand ->U.S. of course) if I was a good writer, I never thought that by "good" you meant I had to have English as my first language. ^_^ Here's to you, Mr. Robbins. :)
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Jul 19, 09, 08:35AM
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you couldn't figure out what Christological meant, and you're throwing stones?
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Jul 19, 09, 11:17AM
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rustyironchains: you couldn't figure out what Christological meant, and you're throwing stones?
Seriously? You are going to go there? I knew it was studies of Christ, but that was it. I knew no details about it. I got a quick insight about the practice from Wikipedia and then decided to take the assignment. So, I suppose you knew that Christological was the study of Christ, but only how the divine and human relate? Not about his teachings but about what part of him is divine etc.? You knew that the debates happened in early Rome and that is how they derived the trinity etc.? You knew that during these debates that established that Jesus is the son and also the father? You knew that there was a Council of Nicea, a Council of Ephesus, and a Council of Chalcedon? You could derive all of that from the word Christological? If you could then I will call you Kreskin....or something just as witty.
As far as the native speaker, many websites that pay more will not hire a non-native English writer. It might be "unfair" or whatever, but many publish the fact that they only hire native English writers. So they really could not hire you could they EW? I am not saying it to be harsh, I am just telling you the facts. Stay with essaywriters if you want, but I could not handle their lack of high paying assignments...plus the runarounds on payment bothered me. Also, they were asking for my SS# and address. I don't think I am going to be that stupid today...thank you very much essaywriters...
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