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Sep 24, 07, 05:26PM
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Quoting: EW_writer lanchaw bin
I'm not surprised that you (an ESL writer who is completely disconnected from American society, yet defrauds American customers by claiming to be a "native English-speaking professional") continue to use non-American terms that Americans do not understand. I'm sure that you include similar, non-American terms throughout the papers that you write for the American clients. I'm quite positive that you place periods OUTSIDE of closing quotation marks, as well. Good work!
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Edited by: Lavinia Sep 24, 07, 05:59PM
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ew, when i respond to you i feel like i'm hitting a 6 year old with a stick.
your decision to point out my spelling error doesn't distract from your complete inability to respond to the substance of my post. my error can be fixed with spell check, yours requires a lot more work.
i could concede your entire previous post and it does nothing to disprove my post because you completely concede reason #2. i could even concede that i used an ad hominem and i'd still be ok, since not all ad hominems are bad. my original objection to joey's rhetoric was not that he used an ad hom but that his rhetoric was sexist and vile.
and fallacy of a fourth term? woooooah. now there's a fallacy that no one has cared about for a couple hundred years. and the scholastics did nothing to advance human reasoning for five hundred years except to categorize and name Aristotle's syllogisms. once again, you demonstrate a blatant misunderstanding of the term. i wasn't making a syllogism (you do know what they are right?). and, it's the same definition of irrelevant - whether joey is sexist has much to do with whether joey gets to credibly accuse others of discrimination.
hey, maybe in your next response, you can really get me by pointing out that i don't capitalize the first word at the beginning of a sentence. that'll show me.
you've hit a new low by defending sexist rhetoric.
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Sep 24, 07, 06:46PM
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lanchaw bin
You really are known by many names. Most Filipinos know a bit of Chinese enough to understand that word. I'd say that that's a name that suites you best, *****.
Still waiting for the date and time, *****.
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Sep 24, 07, 07:45PM
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Joey009, you're a sub-human dog-eater, completely unworthy of my keystrokes.
Nobody here believes or respects anything that you type. I'd bet that's fairly similar to how people treat you in the real world, isn't it, little man?
You are incredibly sad. You literally bring a tear to my eye. Are you bed-ridden, and your only solace is a laptop through which you can type away your bitterness and sorrow? No healthy person with even a faint amount of hope or self-esteem would engage in your current schedule of daily insults against people whom you know type the truth about your crimes. Tell me--deep down, do you love yourself at all?
When lying in bed each night, having been beaten down yet again by the drudgery of your own existence, do you think about ending it all? Do you think about stopping the pain? It must be difficult knowing that not a single, earthly sole loves you. Even if you were to take your own life, it wouldn't make a ripple. You've already accepted that fact, but it hurts, doesn't it?
I feel sorry for you, because you have about as much to look forward to in life as a racehorse with a broken leg. At least when a racehorse dies, its death means a little something. Its death contributes something to society--glue. No, not the glue that you sniff to ease your depression, but the glue that will one day affix the small piece of paper to your cheap, stapled together, pine casket, reading:
"Here lays Joe Doe."
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Edited by: pious Sep 24, 07, 08:31PM
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Quoting: EW_writer you've given everyone here an excuse to claim that you are nothing more than a sexist moron
By virtue of your persistent and constant use of *****, you're proving you're such a DOG, hound joey009.
Take EW's advise.
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Sep 24, 07, 09:59PM
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This is a democratic forum. Your opinions are all yours to keep or express.
Unfortunately, however, everybody here apparently agrees that you are a SEXIST MORON.
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Edited by: EW_writer Sep 25, 07, 06:24PM
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Quoting: Lavinia and fallacy of a fourth term? woooooah. now there's a fallacy that no one has cared about for a couple hundred years.
That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. >.< Is it safe to say that you're one of the people who actually buys "God is Love- Love is Blind - God is Blind" arguments? Sheesh... I'm sorry but people in the academe care very much about sound logic. (-_-);;
Quoting: Lavinia i wasn't making a syllogism
syllogism - a logical argument (from my old & dusty dictionary)
Yep... I guess you weren't making a syllogism. :)
Quoting: Lavinia whether joey is sexist has much to do with whether joey gets to credibly accuse others of discrimination.
So... if you have a thief accusing another thief of being a thief, are we to expect that a U.S. court of law as a general rule would not admit the testimony of the testifying thief? >.<
Oh I'm sorry, did I just feed you your stick? Hahaha...
Quoting: pious Take EW's advise.
I didn't make any. (-_-);;
Quoting: WritersBeware When are you going to learn that you must place the period INSIDE of the closing quotation mark?
When are you going to develop from a over-glorified grammar & style checker to an actual person? :)
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 25, 07, 06:42PM
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Quoting: EW_writer When are you going to develop from a over-glorified grammar & style checker to an actual person? :)
I make more in BANK INTEREST (on payments earned from HONEST, LEGITIMATE writing) than you make in a year from your worthless, criminal lfestyle. What do you make per year from scamming American customers--30K, in a GOOD year?
LOL!
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Edited by: EW_writer Sep 25, 07, 08:37PM
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tsk tsk.. sorry, I've too much to do to humiliate you all over again. :) For the moment let me just say that yes, I do earn about $30,000 a year from my part-time stint at ew providing excellent work for clients around the world. Where I live, that amount is just about enough to pay cash for a 1-br, 30sqm house in the metro area. It's not that big, but it's certainly a start. :p
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Edited by: Lavinia Sep 25, 07, 09:05PM
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Quoting: EW_writer Quoting: Lavinia and fallacy of a fourth term? woooooah. now there's a fallacy that no one has cared about for a couple hundred years. That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. >.< Is it safe to say that you're one of the people who actually buys "God is Love- Love is Blind - God is Blind" arguments? Sheesh... I'm sorry but people in the academe care very much about sound logic. (-_-);; Quoting: Lavinia i wasn't making a syllogism syllogism - a logical argument (from my old & dusty dictionary) Yep... I guess you weren't making a syllogism. :)
a fallacy of the fourth term requires a syllogism. no syllogism, no fallacy of the fourth term. seriously, stop with the google searches on fallacies, they aren't doing you any favors.
you didn't get my reference to the scholastics b/c you have no clue what you are talking about. you'd fit right in with them. once again, you bring up a logical fallacy that no one in the academy has written about or cared about for centuries. sound logic is good... specifically targetting one of the 200+ Aristotelian fallacies... good only if wanting to sound pompous while simultaneously having nothing original to contribute. do you really think that academic logic hasn't progressed beyond Aristotle?
let's check the score real quick. you concede that i didn't make an ad hom because you conceded reason #2 again. you further conceded that i didn't make a fallacy of the four terms because the definition was consistent and i didn't make a syllogism (get a better dictionary, yours sucks).
so... why exactly did you post?
Quoting: EW_writer Quoting: Lavinia whether joey is sexist has much to do with whether joey gets to credibly accuse others of discrimination. So... if you have a thief accusing another thief of being a thief, are we to expect that a U.S. court of law as a general rule would not admit the testimony of the testifying thief? >.<
of course credibility has a lot to do with the value of the witness' testimony.
let's use a really simple example that gets used in first year comm. theory classes so maybe even you might understand. President Bush gives a speech detailing his plan to fix the U.S. healthcare system. His plan is perfect, it's amazing, it will fix all of the current problems within a very fast time frame and at a minimal cost. however, in describing his proposal he uses the "n" word 6 times.
the next morning, all media coverage will be focused upon his language choice. no one cares about the content of his message because of the language choice and discrimination conveyed. words produce consequences beyond the content.
joey posts to the message board spewing his own personal uninspired batch of sexist rhetoric. that rhetoric stops people from evaluating whatever dubious content he might otherwise be presenting.
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Sep 25, 07, 11:46PM
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Quoting: WritersBeware have stated NUMEROUS times that I do not write for essay companies.
I thought you said you are not a writer?So are you are a writer or not? You seem a little confused !
Quoting: WritersBeware I make more in BANK INTEREST (on payments earned from HONEST, LEGITIMATE writing) |
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Sep 26, 07, 12:18AM
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You need to read a little more closely, dear. I never stated that I am not a writer. I clearly stated--which you even QUOTED--that I do not work for ESSAY companies.
Wow--I feel sorry for the unlucky customer who pulls your ticket as a for-hire researcher.
Wake up!
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Sep 26, 07, 09:05AM
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Quoting: WritersBeware feel sorry for the unlucky customer who pulls your ticket as a for-hire researcher.
Where did I ever say I was a for hire researcher?? Methinks you need to read more closely too!!
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Sep 26, 07, 01:05PM
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"I write for several companies . . . ."
http://www.essayscam.org/Forum/9_200_0.html#msg2615
Liar!
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Sep 26, 07, 02:24PM
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Quoting: WritersBeware I write for several companies . . . ."
That was in May, and I did say I used to write for essay writing companies. I have never hidden that fact. I have not written for anyone in the last 4 months because I was fed up with students submitting my work as their own.
Unlike you I have nothing to hide. I have stated several times that I used to be a writer but now I mark essays, which incidently is how I came to discover that one of my essays had been submitted by a student as their own work without any alterations whatsover.
You so far have failed to disclose what writing you are paid for. I very much doubt posting on here earns you much unless you are being paid by the companies that you claim are legitimate to slag off the companies you proclaim as illegitimate?
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Sep 26, 07, 04:43PM
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Again, your reading and comprehension skills are atrocious. I have stated my career accomplishments many times. I am a LEGITIMATE writer with significant credits (that I will not disclose here), which has afforded me the time and opportunity to uncover many scams in the writing industry.
Try "Hooked on Phonics":
http://www.time4learning.com/learning-hookedonphonics.shtml
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Edited by: EW_writer Sep 26, 07, 05:17PM
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*whistle whistle*....
taken from ye' website
*whistle whisle*....
Quoting: Lavinia a fallacy of the fourth term requires a syllogism. no syllogism, no fallacy of the fourth term.
By George, you're right! I'm sorry... you did not make a logical argument, hence it would not contain any logical fallacies. I'm sure that makes sense.. in your world. :)
Quoting: Lavinia the next morning, all media coverage will be focused upon his language choice. no one cares about the content of his message because of the language choice and discrimination conveyed. words produce consequences beyond the content.
Hey, I thought you weren't on my side. >.< You just proved that regardless of the substance of joey 's statements, his sexist remarks barred the argumentative content of his writings from being absorbed by people who felt offended by his langauge choice. This implies that the content was disregarded rather than evaluated and deemed false which consequently means that joey's arguments could actually be substantive and sensible when one looks beyond his ugly choice of words.
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Sep 26, 07, 06:04PM
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Quoting: EW_writer *whistle whistle*....
Hey, good job in posting the same, fabricated trash that your EW buddies have posted a hundred times previously. It doesn't work.
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Edited by: Lavinia Sep 26, 07, 08:17PM
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Quoting: EW_writer Quoting: Lavinia a fallacy of the fourth term requires a syllogism. no syllogism, no fallacy of the fourth term. By George, you're right! I'm sorry... you did not make a logical argument, hence it would not contain any logical fallacies. I'm sure that makes sense.. in your world. :)
ok, this has gotten hilariously stupid. if you seriously think that a syllogism is simply a "logical argument" then that proves you're just posing by throwing out logic-related phrases that you think make you sound smart. i'm sorry you don't understand the nuances of my argument but it's not my responsibility to give you a logic lesson. if that's the same dictionary you use to write papers for your clients... well... /shiver.
Quoting: EW_writer Quoting: Lavinia the next morning, all media coverage will be focused upon his language choice. no one cares about the content of his message because of the language choice and discrimination conveyed. words produce consequences beyond the content. Hey, I thought you weren't on my side. >.< You just proved that regardless of the substance of joey 's statements, his sexist remarks barred the argumentative content of his writings from being absorbed by people who felt offended by his langauge choice. This implies that the content was disregarded rather than evaluated and deemed false which consequently means that joey's arguments could actually be substantive and sensible when one looks beyond his ugly choice of words.
um, duh? remember back on page 8...
Quoting: Lavinia i'm not a censor and i have a pretty high tolerance for vulgarity in general. However, i'm not about to sift through your posts of *****, sexually graphic insults and threats in some attempt to discern the essence of your arguments. if you think audiences are willing to do that for speakers, then i respectfully suggest you take a communications class or 3.
seriously, did you just pick a debate with me for no reason whatsoever? lol. i thought you only took random pot shots at WB.
we all make moral and ethical decisions regarding the individuals we engage in conversation and debate. I'm not going to waste my time engaging in a thoughtful debate with someone using sexist rhetoric. doing so implies acceptance of that rhetoric. not to mention the fact that, as a woman, i know that he can and will simply disregard my arguments based upon my gender. my refusal to engage clearly sexist rhetoric is a far more important choice.
so... why exactly are you defending joey's rhetoric again?
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Edited by: julie24963 Sep 26, 07, 11:49PM
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Quoting: WritersBeware Try "Hooked on Phonics":
If that is your attempt at humour then it is pathetic. It amuses me that whenever you are put on the spot to prove your credentials you resort to insults or attacks on those that challenge you.
I find you boring and inconsequential and do not intend to give you the satisfaction of embroiling in further argument with you. I have on several occasions challenged you to show everyone here a sample of your LEGITIMATE writing and each time you have skirted round the issue by slagging me off.
I never make claims or allegations I cannot support and am not afraid to disclose samples of my wriitng that have been published, though I doubt that you will have had the opportunity to read my disertations as they are lodged with UK universities.
Anyway at present I am too busy completing my PHD as well as working full time to pamper to your petty obsessions. As far as I am concerned this matter is closed, though I doubt you will understand the meaning of the word 'closed', so I will finish by saying that regardless of any further attacks you are about to make on me following this posting I do not intend to reply as I am finished with talking to kindergarten children!
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Sep 27, 07, 01:27AM
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You're the one who kept coming after ME, loser, and I shut you down EVERY TIME!
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Sep 27, 07, 11:09AM
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Quoting: Lavinia ok, this has gotten hilariously stupid. if you seriously think that a syllogism is simply a "logical argument" then that proves you're just posing by throwing out logic-related phrases that you think make you sound smart. i'm sorry you don't understand the nuances of my argument but it's not my responsibility to give you a logic lesson. if that's the same dictionary you use to write papers for your clients... well... /shiver.
Why do you guys resort to these pathetic attacks whenever you get backed to a corner? Why not engage my arguments (or joey's & julie's for that matter) rather than ignore them and spend more time trying to insult us? Don't you get it? "Sticks and stones..." >.< We're mature enough (well, me and julie anyway... sorry joey) not to be pissed by trash talk. Apparently, we can't say the same for you and lanchaw bin. :(
It's sad how you refuse to accept that the sites you accuse as fraudulent do deliver quality orders. The bottom line of all of this is greed, your greed. Unfortunately for you, you'll stay frothing in the mouth over all the orders the we "steal" from you because we're in this industry to stay. You can kick and scream in forums like this all you want but that won't change a thing. :) You can brag about how much more you earn but that won't change the amount of money we receive in our accounts every pay period, and that won't change the fact that because of that money we are able to afford a comfortable lifestyle.
Good night. ^_^
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Edited by: Lavinia Sep 27, 07, 12:07PM
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are you kidding? lol.
if julie was offended by anything i wrote she can let me know and we can talk about it. to my knowledge, we disagreed but it didn't get personal. if i offended her, she's demonstrated that she is quite capable of expressing that herself. she and i will commence our debate once she provides evidence for her end.
with you, i remained relatively civil even while pointing out the error of your arguments. i didn't call you pathetically stupid, i called your arguments that. and they were. i think you need to learn to distinguish between criticizing an individual and criticizing an argument.
bottom line: you tried to use fallacies that you clearly do not understand as a means of discrediting my response to Joey and it blew up in your face because I actually know quite a bit about comm. theory and can see that you know very little. pointing out that you don't know much about fallacies isn't a personal attack and shouldn't be construed as such. i don't know much about baking a turkey, i don't pretend to, and i wouldn't be insulted if you or anyone else pointed it out. so stop posing and you can avoid this embarassing unpleasantness.
this has nothing to do with greed unless you mean greed on your end. you picked this fight with me, not the other way around. i criticized joey's sexist rhetoric and you decided to attack me. could it be that you decided to defend joey because you and he have similar views about working for fraudulent companies? hmmm...
i'm not even going to engage your claims about the provision of quality work by fraudulent sites. that's not what our latest exchange was about. you only mention it now because you want to create a smokescreen to cover your retreat. no one is buying it.
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Sep 27, 07, 02:10PM
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Quoting: EW_writer You can kick and scream in forums like this all you want but that won't change a thing. :) You can brag about how much more you earn but that won't change the amount of money we receive in our accounts every pay period, and that won't change the fact that because of that money we are able to afford a comfortable lifestyle.
Well, you can better your last, dirty penny that I will uncover your scams at every turn.
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Oct 15, 07, 09:02AM
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I suggest that before any of you decide to bash a whole country (the Philippines) as a source of second-rate or even third-rate writers, do your research. You can do that, right? I mean, that is what you do for a living?
The reason writers in the Philippines get paid lower because we can afford to accept lower as the standard of living is lower here (e.g. we don't pay US$5 for a McDonald's Meal) but that does not mean the work we do is substandard. I know for a fact that people Stateside are grumbling about the amount of customer service and other labor-intensive work that is outsourced which may be the reason for all this angst. But the truth is, Filipinos are just as good, maybe even better at spoken and written English than most Americans. If you don't believe me, look it up. Better yet, show me yours and I'll show you mine. I'm 100% Filipino in the Philippines and I'm quite proud of the fact that I am extremely proficient in two languages instead of one.
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Edited by: Lavinia Oct 15, 07, 01:05PM
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Quoting: kaye_navarro I suggest that before any of you decide to bash a whole country (the Philippines) as a source of second-rate or even third-rate writers, do your research.
who did that?
Quoting: kaye_navarro The reason writers in the Philippines get paid lower because we can afford to accept lower as the standard of living is lower here (e.g. we don't pay US$5 for a McDonald's Meal) but that does not mean the work we do is substandard.
this is just faulty thinking. this isn't a company outsourcing to the Philippines to cut down on operational costs. the company that started this thread is lying about the background of its writers. that should make you angry. you should attack them for perpetuating the stereotype that you're a bad writer.
on a holistic level, this is employment in cyberspace, where national boundaries mean very little. why would you choose to earn less when you could earn more with another company? it can't really be that you figure "well, my standard of living here is lower than in the US, so i can do the exact same work as a US writer and be ok with earning less." as a rational actor, you should work to maximize the amount of revenues earned through your labor, period. if you choose to work for someone who pays less, then something is up.
add on: ok, i just read your post saying that you're going to work for yourself, so you probably agree with me on this. good luck to you on branching out. i personally believe that a foreign writer with strong writing skills and topic knowledge will do very well by being honest with potential clients.
Quoting: kaye_navarro But the truth is, Filipinos are just as good, maybe even better at spoken and written English than most Americans. If you don't believe me, look it up. Better yet, show me yours and I'll show you mine.
well, that seems like a big assertion, don't you think? i'm interested in seeing the evidence to support this claim. i only looked briefly, but i couldn't find a comparative study to support your claim.
in fact, from what I've been reading, the Philippines was known as the leader in English language proficiency in the Asian region for years but the quality of English language proficiency within the nation as a whole has suffered in recent years.
your own senate recognized this in 2006. The evidence you ask? sure, check this out:
http://www.senate.gov.ph/lis/bill_res.aspx?congress=13&q=SRN-520
I found this article informative: from the International Herald Tribune, published last month (August 13, 2007) by Carlos Conde:
"MANILA: "We grow our hogs in our own farms so you're sure to get meat that is grown."
"The city's voice is soft like solitudes."
"He found his friend clowning himself around."
"He seemed to be waiting for someone, not a blood relation, much less a bad blood."
Such phrases, lifted from government-approved textbooks used in Filipino public schools, are reinforcing fears that crucial language skills are degenerating in a country that has long prided itself on having some of the world's best English speakers. At a time when English is widely considered an advantage in global competitiveness for any country, many fear this former U.S. colony is slipping."
It would seem that the textbooks in your nation do not teach proper grammar. the article quotes members of your nation's school system to back up the claim. as many as 75% of the textbooks circulated contain these common errors. the article continues:
"For years now, Antonio Calipjo Go, an academic and a supervisor of the Marian School of Quezon City, a private school here, has waged a campaign against bad textbook English.
"I pity our children who are being fed these errors," Go said in an interview. "This is one of the reasons why the level of education in our country is worsening."
Go says he has notified the Philippine Department of Education of dozens of English-language errors in all seven approved social studies textbooks. In January, he testified at a Senate hearing on the subject. And he has written to the World Bank, which has granted an 800 million peso, or $17.5 million, loan to the Philippines government for textbooks.
But when the new school year opened in June, the books were unchanged.
So Go took out advertisements in newspapers detailing the errors. In July, he paid for a full page in the country's largest-circulation newspaper, the Philippine Daily Inquirer, enumerating errors in two textbooks.
He titled the ad "Learnings for make benefit glorious nation of Philippines," after the movie "Borat," whose title character has a less-than-perfect grasp of English.
"I do not wish to pick a fight with anybody," Go declared in his ad. "I only know that if I kept this to myself, the errors that have been in these books all these years will continue to harm the hearts and minds of more generations of Filipino schoolchildren. The errors must be corrected. Now."
Go estimates that more than 75 percent of all elementary textbooks in public schools contain errors."
now, before you go all crazy with the accusations, please note that I am not offering racist rhetoric. I am, however, pointing to evidence that demonstrates that your nation's system of teaching English has been recognized to suffer from some big problems.
so, i'll stop now. your turn. where is the evidence?
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Oct 15, 07, 03:36PM
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Quoting: kaye_navarro I suggest that before any of you decide to bash a whole country (the Philippines) as a source of second-rate or even third-rate writers, do your research. You can do that, right? I mean, that is what you do for a living?
You're another ignorant, criminal-apologist, race-baiter.
The mere fact that you do not understand the CONTEXT of the general complaint is further proof that you are not qualified to write for Americans. Instead of focusing on the FRAUD by your Filipino comrades (which I proved--with EVIDENCE--in the first post), you try to redirect blame onto me and others for being "racist." Give me a break! Don't blame ME because they are Filipino crooks and I simply called it like it is. The ONE and ONLY reason why I mention their nationality and location is because they LIE about both in order to fool American customers into placing orders. Understand?
If they were to openly state on their site, "We are Filipino writers who are based in the Philippines," I would have no problem with them. However, those Filipino charlatans purposely advertise FAKE ADDRESSES in the United States. Understand?
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Oct 15, 07, 05:27PM
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Quoting: kaye_navarro I suggest that before any of you decide to bash a whole country (the Philippines) as a source of second-rate or even third-rate writers, do your research. You can do that, right? I mean, that is what you do for a living? The reason writers in the Philippines get paid lower because we can afford to accept lower as the standard of living is lower here (e.g. we don't pay US$5 for a McDonald's Meal) but that does not mean the work we do is substandard. I know for a fact that people Stateside are grumbling about the amount of customer service and other labor-intensive work that is outsourced which may be the reason for all this angst. But the truth is, Filipinos are just as good, maybe even better at spoken and written English than most Americans. If you don't believe me, look it up. Better yet, show me yours and I'll show you mine. I'm 100% Filipino in the Philippines and I'm quite proud of the fact that I am extremely proficient in two languages instead of one.
Very nice... PinoyPenster folk, I assume? :)
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| caribbeandream |
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Nov 9, 07, 08:21PM
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I'm agree with you! the operator looks like a good guy!
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| WritersBeware |
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Nov 9, 07, 08:37PM
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Quoting: caribbeandream I'm agree with you! the operator looks like a good guy!
I suppose, in your criminal mind, that a lying, cheating, thieving, offshore scumbag is a "good guy."
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| jassrosy |
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Dec 5, 07, 06:30AM
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Wow! I really enjoy about your write-ups.
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| emjay |
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Jan 4, 08, 07:05AM
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you shouldn't be happy about this jassrosy...
that EW guy is a dog. he's probably one of those traitor dogs.
we're in this business...to stay?
uhuh...stay.
maybe behind bars, you'll stay.
you're an "employer" EW.
you're probably a Filipino "employer"
you're probably one of our "employers"
the thing is, you could probably scam people who don't want to study on their own and give them "let the buyer beware" or sumthin'
but your writers still deserve to get what little earnings they signed up for.
don't scam your writers. you just might scam someone you shouldn't scam.
oh wait...yeaup...you just did.
about 5 of them. without background checking whether one of them had a general for an uncle.
uhmmmmm, he has. so he's just waiting 'till you pay us 5 peepz and there's a time frame
....before you get what you deserve.
we weren't friends. we just met up on nonchalant terms to ask each other if it was ok to tell authorities about what just happened to the 5 of us.
one of them was fair and said to wait.
even if she's the one that's being thought of as: all bark no bite.
earnings are earnings. and money is money.
"pay up. "
two, very, simple words.
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| margie |
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Edited by: margie Jan 4, 08, 07:31AM
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Hahaha... emjay: get real. Do you think a general would bother hunting down somebody for $500 or so? The general is made to sound like a hired goon.
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| emjay |
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Jan 4, 08, 08:01AM
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hahaha...you get real too. if you're so smart, have you not heard the saying " truth is stranger than fiction?"
and you make it sound like it is just the one guy.
you do the math. 5 people and counting since 2 people resigned from the company as of today...
so that's 7 and counting....
the general happens to love his grandson who was a rehabilitating addict, who should not have been hired, if only the company had a REAL HR personnel.
as it is, WRITERS.PH WAS LOOKING FOR A REAL HR personnel, dec 27th.
who was HR then? the manager? your boyfriend?
go sit on your high chair you no-good doer.
and we know where y'all live...psycho-scammers.
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| emjay |
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Jan 4, 08, 08:09AM
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MJ's from Cavite and her mom's family has been talking to Cavite NBI to do something about what happened to her.
Margie ( the real margie) filed a police report about her former team leader
who lives in Paranaque, and the police of makati will knock on his door ( the fake office door ) on Tuesday.
Mr. Abaya, no comment...like i said 'go do the math'
Ces already notified Makati NBI too. And is waiting for payment or Makati NBI goes with her to open the fake office door and shout about her payment.
and there's me. i'm the quiet one. I also worked with essaywriters so that's a shame on me there, but not anymore.
i want shame for the scammers lol.
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| emjay |
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Jan 4, 08, 08:11AM
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oops, my bad. J's the general's nephew.
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| margie |
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Jan 4, 08, 10:58PM
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emjay, take a hike. You need it. I don't wonder why you didn't get paid. Bringing in the NBI? What are you, Microsoft? har har har
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| margie |
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Jan 4, 08, 11:02PM
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And besides emjay, didn't you know about going to court to get a warrant? The police or any authority can't just bust in and demand payment. What are they, money collectors? ahahahahahah
First, you made the general sound like a hired goon. Second, you made the authorities sound like money collectors. What's next, emjay?
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| victim writer 2 |
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Jan 5, 08, 05:14PM
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Quoting: margie And besides emjay, didn't you know about going to court to get a warrant? The police or any authority can't just bust in and demand payment. What are they, money collectors? ahahahahahah
cheer up emjay, don't let this guy put you down.
i sympathize with you. i was a victim of writers.ph also
like you and the other victim writer.
the thing this margie guy said is just like what our manager thinks.
its called ignorance.
victim writer and i talked about this and we both agree that this complaint site may even be theirs. we're already very paranoid.
victim writer and myself, we think this margie guy was the idiot who used to give us
a lot of white noise. he sounds the same kind of stupid, you know.
i think pepi is my friend, Bunot.
hey bunot, haven't you left them yet?
Bunot goes to the office almost everyday, is very polite and quiet also but since he wasn't able to make the "quota" he didn't receive his basic salary and was promised it for December 30.
they keep working for the company because they say they are watching their earnings. keeping a close eye on it. maybe, i say, turning a blind eye to everything else in front of them.
if you want to work for a legitimate writing site go to where we transferred. koolmedia.
those who hired me asked what's wrong with Uniwork Inc, which is the alleged parent company of writers.ph
i asked them why they were asking and i was informed that at least five people
already applied with them and we all had the same story.
that writers.ph is a fraud and Uniwork Inc is a fraud.
i was even surprised that the guy who was confided in by our manager was looking for a new job!!
so i asked him why he had been there, and he answered, even if he was a friend to our manager, he also wasn't going to wait up to june to get his salary.
then he apologized to me for being mum about my problem before with them,
and since we were already friends back then, i said, ok..forgiven.
but what are we going to do?
he asked me what i was going to do, first. i answered that i was all in too behind our friend who filed a police report.it is the least i can do.
not getting paid is fraud. termination without pay is fraud (my case also). and a police report of fraud is our right and this margie guy can call it a threat with EW but it is not a threat when we don't have anything to lose by telling the truth.
even maids who get fired get their last pay, what more, college gradutes? so that is fraud.
if maids can file a police report against their employers who didn't pay them, why can't college graduates do this? if the police go with maids to collect their salaries from employers who don't want to pay, why can't they do the same for degree holders who have the same kind of employers? Employers who don't pay.
we also have the same rights as other victims.
and we find it just a tad bit funny that the four who've given up working with them
came from the same team.
and i think we're all friends because we applied for writers.ph and there we were being hired by the same company after being victimized by writers.ph.
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| pepi |
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Jan 6, 08, 06:44AM
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Sorry, I am not Bunot or whoever he maybe. I am new in this forum. I can be polite but I can also be the devil incarnate if you know what I mean, hehehe >:>
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