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Quoting: WritersBeware Pious, joey009 is sub-human. Don't give it the satisfaction of an acknowledgment.
Yeah, you're right WB. Maybe even a sub-DOG... out to up a _ick.
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Sep 19, 07, 06:21AM
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Quoting: WritersBeware LOL, your pathetic posts don't even warrant responses from anyone. Everyone, please ignore this racist simpleton. He obviously has many psychological "issues" and incredibly low self-esteem.
Oh right! Now I'm a simpleton? What makes me a simpleton fatso? Did I expose you for the second-rate grammar checker that you are and made you cry so hard that you think asking people to ignore me would make me stop squishing your face with my boot? Fat chance gago (Pun intended). How many grammar mistakes are there is this post you ugly lump of stinking cellulite?
Quoting: pious I just translated your post directed at me using Filipino software and you are calling me 'stupid' and 'mad'?! You are a dog-sh_t of a he-whale shark with the fetish for male canals! Your low kind should be BANNED from this forum. Ugh, you sc_um d_ick represents the poo_p of your race.
Tangina mo.
"Filipino software" my ***. Why didn't you tell them what the rest of what I said meant? Huli ka na tsongo!
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Sep 19, 07, 06:48AM
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Quoting: joey009 Tangina mo. "Filipino software" my ***. Why didn't you tell them what the rest of what I said meant? Huli ka na tsongo!
Poo_p dog cellulite _ick hole. T'was a dictionary software and the rest save for one or two were untranslatable.
Dog joey # 9, you resort to low language because your logic is pathetically woeful and your gray matter execrably canine. Don't hide behind your local tongue, idiot!
Doggie, YOU TRANSLATE them so the whole world would know what muck of a crapper you and your posts are.
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Sep 19, 07, 12:55PM
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Quoting: joey009 squishing your face with my boot
My husband will be in Manila to finalize a legitimate business deal on October 9-11. If you happen to be in the area, he would be more than happy to beat you to a bloody pulp.
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Lavinia
I was going to post you my research on student cheating as promised earlier, however I will have to do this another night as I have just got back from a case conference on a child abuse case and I still have 3 cases to prepare for court tomorrow. Its all a bit crazy where I live right now we have had 2 murders within 2 days of each other and I have been called in to advise on evidence and forensic submissions that need doing in order to prove the offence.
I have not forgotten that I have promised to provide proof of my assertions on here and will do this as soon as I get chance to. I must get on with work right now. I expect I will be up till 3am like the last 2 days in a row. The one bonus is the big fat pay cheque once the trial is complete :)
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Sep 19, 07, 06:08PM
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no worries julie, i'll watch for your response.
WB - sorry for contributing to the thread diversion. it was a good initial post and i think the fact that it got diverted demonstrates that there was no direct way to refute your claims.
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Sep 19, 07, 07:58PM
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Quoting: WritersBeware My husband will be in Manila to finalize a legitimate business deal on October 9-11. If you happen to be in the area, he would be more than happy to beat you to a bloody pulp.
And I thought you said you were going to ignore me. Couldn't resist, can you? You must really be pissed off, fatso. It's not everyday that someone actually takes the time to kick your pathetic blubbery *** is it? Well lucky for you, I'm in a very giving mood.
A husband you say? Are you sure you even have a husband? I don't think unripe bananas and #2 pencils count as husbands! LOL! Tell you what dip****, I'm going to call you on your stupid challenge. Just tell me when and where your "husband" wants me to be and I'll be there. I happen to live in Manila and can get around the city quite easily. Let's see who beats who to a bloody pulp.
By the way *****, I still don't see you counting any grammar errors in my posts.
Quoting: Lavinia WB - sorry for contributing to the thread diversion. it was a good initial post and i think the fact that it got diverted demonstrates that there was no direct way to refute your claims.
Or it demonstrates that how the issue was brought out was completely insensitive to the general Filipino ghost writing community. I don't write for the companies stated at the beginning of this thread but I know a lot of filipino ghost writers who do work for companies that you consider fraudulent simply because they are the ones who hire us. I asked you earlier, can you point me to a company you consider "legitimate" who'd pay me more than what I'm earning now?
Quoting: pious Poo_p dog cellulite _ick hole. T'was a dictionary software and the rest save for one or two were untranslatable.
Was this an online software, dung breath? Can you post the link here?
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Where is your proof that I am fat? LMAO! This is a shining example of the type of falsification and baseless conjecture that amateur, ESL, con-artist writers like joey009 pass off to customers as "genuine research."
Joey009, don't you have another dog to eat? It's finger-lickin' good! Get cookin'!
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Sep 19, 07, 08:39PM
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My my my.... if you're not the fat, ugly dung hole that you are then WHY ARE YOU SO AFFECTED?!? LOL!!! Why the crap do I need to make "genuine research" on how best to insult you and make you cry? You can't find a single grammar mistake in my posts so you resort to this kind of ****? You are so pathetic!
So when and where does your "husband" want me to be, *****?
Oh and by the way, I happen to eat dog meat. It's a delicacy here, you see. Your insults are lame. The only thing you ever said that had any effect on me was your blatant insult of all competent, hardworking Filipino writers who happen to work for companies that you consider illegitimate.
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Quoting: joey009 You can't find a single grammar mistake in my posts
ROTFLMAO! I rest my case.
"Grammar" is a noun, not an adjective, you flaming idiot!
I won't bother pointing out all of the other grammatical errors in your posts. I take great pleasure in the fact that, as an unqualified, ESL writer, you do not even recognize the blatant, grammatical errors in your writing, even while bragging about its "flawless" nature. Now, THAT is funny!
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Quoting: joey009 your blatant insult of all competent, hardworking Filipino writers
For the third time, please quote the post in which I made such a claim.
Do you even know the meaning of "research" or "fact"?
I'm sure that true, competent, hardworking, Filipino writers are quite proud that you represent them so well.
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Quoting: joey009 Was this an online software, dung breath? Can you post the link here?
Go to softpedia downloads. Find the link yourself, filthy dog dung breath.
By the way, the one I got (there were several choices, I believe) is bilingual. You'll find it useful to improve your sickening English language use.
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Quoting: WritersBeware "Grammar" is a noun, not an adjective, you flaming idiot!
And you tell me you don't want to bother counting? Is it really that you don't want to bother pointing out my mistakes or is it that you CAN'T FIND ANY?!? Everyone here knows that you can't resist showcasing your second rate grammar-checking prowess. If I did write bad English, you'd have pointed it out several posts ago (as demonstrated by your actions above!). It's not even a solid error. Is ballerina a noun? If I say "You have ballerina feet" instead of saying "Your feet are like a ballerina's", am I committing a grave grammar mistake?
What about your "husband", *****? I'm not going to let you off the hook. If you're not a liar, you'd keep to what you said about him going to manila to "beat me to a bloody pulp" and tell me when and where you want it to happen.
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Wow, you're a complete idiot, whihc is, by now, completely apparent to everyone. Aallow me educate you a tad, ESL crook:
"Ballerina"--as you employed it in the example sentence above--is functioning as an ADJECTIVE, you pathetic moron! (You continue to prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that even "qualified," ESL writers often do not understand the intricacies of writing in the English langauge.) To communicate the same message, while using "Ballerina" as a noun, one would have to type, "You have the feet of a ballerina."
Dog-eating savage, would you like yet another, embarrassing lesson in using proper grammar?
My husband would crack your skinny neck, retard. What are you, a buck-fifty at most, little man? My husband played football at U.C. Berkeley for 4 years. His right leg probably weighs more than you.
It's always the weakling who types a tough game while hiding behind a computer.
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Quoting: WritersBeware "Ballerina"--as you employed it in the example sentence above--is functioning as an ADJECTIVE
Right! Now answer this, can the noun "grammar" be used in the same manner? Furthermore, is "Your feet are like a ballerina's" grammatically incorrect?
Quoting: WritersBeware It's always the weakling who types a tough game while hiding behind a computer.
I ain't playing any ****ing games with you *****. You're the one who bragged about your husband "beating me to a bloody pulp". Now I'm calling your bluff. If I don't see your 'husband" next month that only means one thing: YOU ARE A ****ing LIAR! You got no excuses on this one. I can go anywhere in Manila from Paranaque to Caloocan. There ain't any place in the city that I can't meet your "husband" at. Just give me a date and place, fatso.
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Quoting: joey009 grammatically
Ah, I see you've learned something, finally using "grammatically" correctly.
Your follow-up questions are utterly pointless. I have already proven to everyone that your grasp of the English language is flawed.
I'm still waiting for you to quote the post in which I stated that "all competent, hardworking Filipino writers" are fraudulent. You made the accusation, so all you have to do now is show everyone the quote!
As for my husband, I'll nail down a time and location tomorrow. This is going to be the worst mistake of your life, dog-eater.
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Sep 20, 07, 01:07AM
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Ha! Why are they pointless? My follow-up questions only prove that
Quoting: joey009 You can't find a single grammar mistake in my posts so you resort to this kind of ****?
is hardly a bad English sentence. That's because nouns can be used as adjectives, lamebrain! You've proven squat! The only thing you did was showcase your second-rate grasp of the English language.
Quoting: WritersBeware I'm still waiting for you to quote the post in which I stated that "all competent, hardworking Filipino writers" are fraudulent. You made the accusation, so all you have to do now is show everyone the quote!
I got you again, *****! How convenient of you to leave out the rest of my statement while you were quoting me. I said:
Quoting: joey009 ...your blatant insult of all competent, hardworking Filipino writers who happen to work for companies that you consider illegitimate.
So tell us fatso, what do you think of me, and all the other Filipinos who work for the companies you hopelessly try to put down?
Quoting: WritersBeware As for my husband, I'll nail down a time and location tomorrow. This is going to be the worst mistake of your life, dog-eater.
We'll see about that, *****. If your "husband" isn't just another fictional character in that sorry sitcom you call life, I hope his insurance is all paid up.
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You are such a moron that I can hardly keep a straight face when reading your babbling nonsense.
Quoting: joey009 nouns can be used as adjectives
Wow. You're doing a stellar job of proving all of my points.
No, criminal ignoramus, a noun may NOT be used as an adjective. When one attempts to use what one believes is a noun to serve an adjective's purpose, the sentence is either grammatically incorrect, or the so-called "noun" is actually an adjective, making the sentence grammatically correct. Sorry, jackass, but a noun may never modify another noun.
A noun is a noun. An adjective is an adjective. A noun is NEVER an adjective.
Do us all a favor--take a remedial English course. I'm sure that you can find a school that offers dog meat in the cafeteria.
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Sep 20, 07, 03:19AM
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Obviously, you'll keep on defending your screwed up word-sense until the very end just to keep people from seeing that you make mistakes too. So here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to ask the other people in this forum regarding the following sentences:
1.) Quoting: joey009 You can't find a single grammar mistake in my posts so you resort to this kind of ****?
2.) Quoting: joey009 You have ballerina feet.
Are any of the sentences above grammatically incorrect?
Now back to you, *****. What is your opinion about all the competent, hardworking Filipino writers who happen to work for companies that you consider illegitimate.? Are you saying that there aren't any competent, hardworking Filipino writers working for companies that you consider illegitimate?
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You obviously miss the entire point of this thread.
Whether or not a person is competent, hardworking, or Filipino has absolutely no correlation to whether or not the person is a CRIMINAL CONSPIRATOR. Some of the brightest minds on the planet--of various ethnicities--are criminals!
Any foreign, ESL writer who knows that his/her employer is misrepresenting his/her experience, qualifications, educational achievement, and/or geographical location to the American public is a CRIMINAL CONSPIRATOR.
Contrary to what you seem to believe, it is possible to be simultaneously competent, hardworking, Filipino (or any other race), AND a criminal.
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Hahaha! Got you again! You really are quite pathetic at defending arguments. You insist on side-stepping other issues brought forward to the discussion just so you can keep on proving a point over and over again. You're like a broken casette player turned on auto-rewind.
If by your standards, anyone who works for a non-american company posing as an american company is a criminal, fine. So I'm a criminal in your eyes and in the eyes of all the other american writers who I supposedly "steal' customers from.
However, does that prove that I am an incompetent writer? no. Does that prove that a majority of the writers who work for the sites you are against are incompetent? no. Like you said:
Quoting: WritersBeware Contrary to what you seem to believe, it is possible to be simultaneously competent, hardworking, Filipino (or any other race), AND a criminal.
Thank you so much for that, fatso. I think I've gotten what I came for from you.
Oh that leaves just one more thing...
You've yet to tell me when and where I'm supposed to meet this "husband" of yours. Oh I assure you that I intend to meet him. If he does want a fight, I'll send him back to you on a wheelchair. I'll be waiting.
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Sep 23, 07, 06:32PM
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joey, in this thread you've proven yourself an incompetent thinker, which is worse than being an incompetent writer. well done.
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Quoting: Lavinia you've proven yourself an incompetent thinker
Right! Is using unproven insults for one-liners supposed to make you look smarter than you are, Lavinia? I haven't said a cruel word to you the entire time that I've been posting on this thread because I thought you had enough brain matter to understand my situation and that of others like me. Tell me, was I mistaken? I asked you once earlier in the thread, if you don't want us to work for the non-amrican companies that we work for now, where do you want us to earn living from? Obviously, we can't work for sites that really do hire only American writers living in America. What do you want us to do?
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Quoting: joey009 Is using unproven insults for one-liners supposed to make you look smarter than you are, Lavinia?
no, i don't need posts to prove my intelligence. i posted for two reasons:
1. to demonstrate that i was marginalized and disgusted by your posts
2. to demonstrate my joy at your implied promise of no more posts
joey, my disdane for you has nothing to do with your socioeconomic position or your decision to work for a company that i view as fraudulent. it has everything to do with your obnoxious, sexist, bullying argumentative tactics.
since you claim to be a writer, you should understand that rhetorical decisions influence the impact of a message as much as, and in some cases, even more than the substance of the message itself. you're a sexist bully who thinks that it's not only ok but a preferred tactic to make up garbage about an individual's weight and personal life to discredit their opinions.
i would have liked to engage in a thoughtful debate about our disagreement over the ethics involved in supporting a corrupt business. i'd enjoy getting a multicultural perspective and i think i could have offered some constructive comments regarding your business position. however, it's clear to me that such a discussion would never happen because you would inevitably default to insults.
so, do what you do best. tell me i'm fat, that my husband doesn't exist, that i'm mentally disabled, whatever you think makes you look smarter. so long as you understand that doing so only proves my point.
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Quoting: Lavinia joey, my disdane for you has nothing to do with your socioeconomic position or your decision to work for a company that i view as fraudulent. it has everything to do with your obnoxious, sexist, bullying argumentative tactics.
i completely agree, lavinia. sexism should have no place in this forum. sexist remarks sorely get in the way of intellectual discourse and worse, try to degrade the value of a person, which in most cases is a woman.
your sexist remarks against writersbeware assail not only her but other women as well--your female friends, former teachers, sisters, aunts, mother and grandmothers. how low do you regard the sexuality of a woman, joey009? are you forgetting that half of you came from your mother--obviously a female--and that you were cultured in a female, possibly very fat womb and that, best of all, you came out into this world through that very female opening (unless of course you were delivered via CS)?
female sexuality is sacred and shouldn't be made a personal tool of insult, mockery, or even argumentative self-defence.
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Quoting: joey009 I asked you once earlier in the thread, if you don't want us to work for the non-amrican companies that we work for now, where do you want us to earn living from?
First of all, we have no problem with you working for "non-American companies," as long as those "non-American companies" openly admit their "non-American" status, instead of purposely deceiving the American public.
Secondly, your unfortunate circumstance is not the American public's problem. Your plight, which has absoluteliy NOTHING to do with America, does not justify the fraud that you perpetrate against Americans. You knowingly work for "non-American companies" that falsely claim to be American in order to SEDUCE and steal from American consumers. You have no right to defraud American consumers.
Quoting: joey009 Obviously, we can't work for sites that really do hire only American writers living in America. What do you want us to do?
If you are as competent as you claim to be, simply start your own company and write for people in your OWN COUNTRY, instead of defrauding Americans.
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Quoting: Lavinia joey, my disdane for you has nothing to do with your socioeconomic position or your decision to work for a company that i view as fraudulent. it has everything to do with your obnoxious, sexist, bullying argumentative tactics.
The fat-assed ***** deserved everything she got. Are you saying that just because I use foul language when addressing that pathetic swine, my arguments are of no value? I truly thought you were better than that.
Quoting: essayer i completely agree, lavinia. sexism should have no place in this forum. sexist remarks sorely get in the way of intellectual discourse and worse, try to degrade the value of a person, which in most cases is a woman.
I call the ***** an exception.
Quoting: WritersBeware If you are as competent as you claim to be, simply start your own company and write for people in your OWN COUNTRY, instead of defrauding Americans.
Why should we when there are non-american companies who'd hire us and pay us as long as we do good work for them?
Hey, what's the date and place, fatso?
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Quoting: joey009 Hey, what's the date and place, fatso?
Your mother is a pathetic failure, having raised such a worthless sack of skin. Rest assured, you will get what you deserve (all 130, dog-eating lbs. of you), in more ways than one. That's the fate of crooks.
You're just bitter because you can't refute my facts and reasoned arguments.
Would you like some cheese with your whine?
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Quoting: joey009 The fat-assed ***** deserved everything she got. Are you saying that just because I use foul language when addressing that pathetic swine, my arguments are of no value? I truly thought you were better than that.
what lavinia is saying is that your arguments are so weak that you resort to foul language to try to project that you're winning. no debater having the upper hand will call the adversary names because there is no need to.
from an objective stance, you really are not making good sense of your position. now, assuming that you really do, yet you resort to foul insults, then you're only giving out your ill breeding.
this is a forum for writers, for heaven's sake. there is no sexist theme herein, neither censorable content to match your language. so, please be respectful of everyone, without any exception!
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Quoting: WritersBeware If you are as competent as you claim to be, simply start your own company and write for people in your OWN COUNTRY, instead of defrauding Americans.
So its only Americans you are worried about defrauding? There was I thinking this was a crusade against poor academic quality of essays when in fact it is just about Americans getting ripped off!
When I used to write essays I would never take on work for anything other than UK clients as my speciality is law. It would be impossible for me to write a law essay for a student from another country as the laws of each country are so widely different. However if my speciality had been psychology most of psychology books are written by Americans so it would have been easy to write for American students. (I wonder if the reason that most psychology books are written by American because they have more psychological problems than any other country).
The point I am trying to make here is that the person best placed to write an essay for an American student would be an American writer as they would know the style required by the universities there. By the same token the best person to write for a UK student would be a UK writer. How many of Americans on here who are writers have written for UK students? I am guessing there will be quite a few though how many dare admit it is debatable. As an American writer you are no more qualified to write for a UK student then you would be to pilot a rocket to the moon.
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Quoting: julie24963 So its only Americans you are worried about defrauding? There was I thinking this was a crusade against poor academic quality of essays when in fact it is just about Americans getting ripped off!
I think that WB's reference to Americans is contextual. If you read the first post in this thread, WB points out that this group specifically targets American consumers. In particular, they have several fake offices in the U.S. that they believe helps them to create the illusion of legitimacy.
in addition, WB was answering the following from joey:
Quoting: joey009 Obviously, we can't work for sites that really do hire only American writers living in America. What do you want us to do?
so, WB's response focusing upon Americans was again contextually based.
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Do you agree though that I have a valid point that essay writers are really only qualified to write for people from their own country of origin as only someone who is from the same country as the student would know how to write an essay that would be of the expected standard and vocabulary of that student.
The grading systems between the UK and the US are entirely different, therefore UK writers should not write for American students and American writers should not write for UK students.
I remember you said that you are a writer. Do you write exclusively for American students or have you written for students in other countries?
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Quoting: joey009 The fat-assed ***** deserved everything she got. Are you saying that just because I use foul language when addressing that pathetic swine, my arguments are of no value? I truly thought you were better than that.
i'm not a censor and i have a pretty high tolerance for vulgarity in general. However, i'm not about to sift through your posts of *****, sexually graphic insults and threats in some attempt to discern the essence of your arguments. if you think audiences are willing to do that for speakers, then i respectfully suggest you take a communications class or 3.
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Quoting: julie24963 I remember you said that you are a writer. Do you write exclusively for American students or have you written for students in other countries?
julie, if you read my posts, i'm pretty sure that I've posted at least once that I only write essays for American students.
now, i remember you said you'd post evidence to back up your assertions about a substantial majority of students using essay companies to cheat. so... where is that evidence?
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I will do that later on. At the moment I am celebrating my birthday so am only on here briefly whilst my son finishes cooking my tea.
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Sep 24, 07, 11:19AM
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Quoting: Lavinia Are you saying that just because I use foul language when addressing that pathetic swine, my arguments are of no value?
Well, they do. It's just that because you resorted to getting your kicks out of making our resident hater of "non-American writers writing for Americans without telling them that they aren't Americans" feel bad, :p you've given everyone here an excuse to claim that you are nothing more than a sexist moron. It's called Ad hominem. I've read through some of your posts and minus all the swear words, you do make decent arguments.
Best of luck on your match with lanchaw bin's hubby. :) Please do let us know how that turns out. :D At the moment, that's the only thing in this thread that interests me. ;)
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Edited by: Lavinia Sep 24, 07, 12:46PM
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Quoting: EW_writer It's called Ad hominem.
no, it's not. you don't claim to be qualified to write essays on communication theory or fallacies do you? an ad hominem involves pointing out a characteristic of the speaker that is irrelevent to the argument as a means of discrediting that argument. my objection isn't an ad hominem for two reasons:
1. sexist language isn't irrelevent because it marginalizes a significant percentage of the speaker's audience.
2. I don't ever get to the point of discrediting or even considering the speaker's argument because of his chosen rhetoric.
since you clearly know so much about communication theory, i assume you understand that there is a distinction between the locutionary, illocutionary, and perlocutionary aspects of speech. and you should understand that my criticism was illocutionary and perlocutionary in nature.
if you want to use an appropriate speech term to fit my objection to joey's comments, try "performative contradiction." joey's speech acts are undermined by his performance. he can't credibly critique WB for being discriminatory while also being discriminatory himself. that should sound familiar, eh EW?
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 24, 07, 01:25PM
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Quoting: EW_writer It's called Ad hominem.
Lavinia, I hope you don't expect proper word use or context from an EW supporter.
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Sep 24, 07, 04:25PM
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Quoting: Lavinia an ad hominem involves pointing out a characteristic of the speaker that is irrelevent to the argument as a means of discrediting that argument.
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Quoting: Lavinia sexist language isn't irrelevent because it marginalizes a significant percentage of the speaker's audience.
= The fallacy of a fourth term.
I won't bother ridiculing you for misspelling "irrelevant". :p (Petty things like that are more up lanchaw bin's alley) What I'd like to point out is yet another logical fallacy committed. "Irrelevant" assumes a different definition in each of your statements above. In the first statement, it assumes the definition of "having nothing to do with what joey is saying". In the second it assumes the definition "having nothing to do with important concerns of the people listening to joey". I don't have to tell you that an argument cannot be considered valid when the middle term behaves in this manner. :)
*like you would believe me, hahaha... Oh wait, we have a lawyer among us, right? What do you think, Julie?
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 24, 07, 05:18PM
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Quoting: EW_writer In the first statement, it assumes the definition of "having nothing to do with what joey is saying ". In the second it assumes the definition "having nothing to do with important concerns of the people listening to joey ".
When are you going to learn that you must place the period INSIDE of the closing quotation mark?
You claim to be a "professional" writer in the English language?
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