| LLB Writer |
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Dec 17, 11, 11:52AM
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I wrote a 4000 word paper for a client, sent him half the essay before and he did not pay. I have posted the essay on this site under free essays. Is there anything else i can do.
Thank You
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Dec 17, 11, 12:01PM
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This is why I don't even put a paper on my scehdule, let alone actually start writing it, before it's paid in full. Most clients understand it after you explain that the first time always requires trust and that the only option is to start out with a short paper with any new writer or essay company. Once in a while, they refuse, but that's fine, because I'd rather lose 5 potential new clients than spend my time and effort writing a single paper that ends up not being paid for after the fact.
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| sandyy |
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Dec 17, 11, 12:22PM
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I always pay my writer very in time, as long as they answered questions.
I can't write my homework, but I can read my assignment. I always read my assignment very well, and tell writers how to do it. it's a partner job. Well, an real partner don't need you tell him how to do his job.
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| pheelyks |
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Dec 17, 11, 01:00PM
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You don't need to tell a good writer how to do their job, either. You need to tell them what you want, but that's very different.
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| stu4 |
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Dec 17, 11, 02:15PM
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FreelanceWriter: This is why I don't even put a paper on my scehdule, let alone actually start writing it, before it's paid in full.
Thats the procedure of Africa based scammers too.
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| sandyy |
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Dec 17, 11, 02:37PM
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stu4: Thats the procedure of Africa based scammers too.
LMAO
Write have to answer the question and do what student want, so get paid.
Students have to pay what they agree to pay when they get want they want.
That's true deal, and easy job. Why scam?
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Edited by: FreelanceWriter Dec 17, 11, 02:38PM
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stu4: Thats the procedure of Africa based scammers too.
In other words, any writer or essay company requiring payment in advance is a scam. Brilliantly stupid comment from you, as usual.
Not only could all of my customers verify that I'm legitimate, but so can every person here who's ever inquired about a paper that I declined outright because it was outside my areas or that I refused to take any less for than my price quote, because scammers have no reason ever to decline any pre-paid paper and no reason not to take less than their initial price quote. Anybody who doubts that I'm a legitimate writer can just place an order requesting me on any number of the top essay companies in the business whose names I can't mention but which can be found in all of your other nonsensical attacks on the writers and companies with whom you have no hope of competing successfully.
Do me a small favor? I'm way too booked up to take any more work this weekend. Please hold off on your attacks until at least Monday when I'll be free again to take some of the work that always ends up coming my way after people read our exchanges and decide for themselves who's obviously the idiot and who's probably a legitimate writer. Thank you.
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| sandyy |
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Dec 17, 11, 02:56PM
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We need understand that both side need to find a way to protect themselves.
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| stu4 |
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Edited by: stu4 Dec 17, 11, 03:01PM
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sandyy: We need understand that both side need to find a way to protect themselves.
The best way is get a good writer. Or good company. Only then youre protected. Pheelky or FreelanceRewriter can change email every day. Company cant. And by days they are not good writers.
As you see, those two charlataines actively steal clients of the company they represent. Better order from the company coz then youre more covered and have order ID #.
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| Twig |
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Dec 17, 11, 03:05PM
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LLB Writer: I wrote a 4000 word paper for a client, sent him half the essay before and he did not pay. I have posted the essay on this site under free essays. Is there anything else i can do. Thank You
Could you please provide us with the name/e-mail address of the client. He could be a serial scammer.
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| sandyy |
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Dec 17, 11, 03:23PM
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Twig: Could you please provide us with the name/e-mail address of the client. He could be a serial scammer.
We have to read assignment requirement and read the 4000 words essay first and then decide who/which side is the scammer.
not paid could be the result of not answering the questions, then that 4000 words equals zero value. ( just one of a guess)
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| sandyy |
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Dec 17, 11, 03:27PM
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stu4: The best way is get a good writer. Or good company. Only then youre protected. Pheelky or FreelanceRewriter can change email every day. Company cant. And by days they are not good writers. As you see, those two charlataines actively steal clients of the company they represent. Better order from the company coz then youre more covered and have order ID #.
That's a very good suggestion. I probably will sent my low point discussion assignment to company find an random writer to help. and find a good writer to help high point assignment. Because the price different.
I will sure read it before I turn them on for a better grade. I have to read several times on content before I turn it on to make sure I understand it my self.
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Edited by: FreelanceWriter Dec 17, 11, 03:34PM
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stu4: The best way is get a good writer. Or good company. Only then youre protected. Pheelky or FreelanceRewriter can change email every day. Company cant. And by days they are not good writers. As you see, those two charlataines actively steal clients of the company they represent. Better order from the company coz then youre more covered and have order ID #.
Except that I've had the same email addy since 2000, you've never seen a single thing I've written except for my posts on here, and the companies we write for have no problem with our finding clients anywhere we want as long as we don't ever take private work from any of their existing clients. They also monitor this forum for defamatory accusations and if either Pheelyks or I had anything to hide from the company, we obviously wouldn't be using the exact same names on here that we use for our company IDs. Besides all of that stuff, your post makes perfect sense, as usual.
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| sandyy |
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Dec 17, 11, 03:37PM
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I love you last words, this is my 12th post here. :)
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| pheelyks |
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Dec 17, 11, 03:42PM
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sandyy: I love you last words, this is my 12th post here. :)
He wasn't talking to you.
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| sandyy |
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Dec 17, 11, 03:43PM
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stu4: The best way is get a good writer. Or good company. Only then youre protected. Pheelky or FreelanceRewriter can change email every day. Company cant. And by days they are not good writers. As you see, those two charlataines actively steal clients of the company they represent. Better order from the company coz then youre more covered and have order ID #.
And I am feeling your words now. But still I have my way to protect myself. It IS kind of scary place, bloody fighting for money.
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| stu4 |
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Dec 17, 11, 03:44PM
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FreelanceWriter: Except that I've had the same email addy since 2000
Among dozen others.
FreelanceWriter: you've never seen a single thing I've written except for my posts on here
That is enough. Your tone is boring and you repeat yourself. Student order 2 pages and you blabla the same in other words to cover the word count. More - you cannot follow the rules. You get instructions, you ignore them. Like TOS about spammers here.
FreelanceWriter: as long as we don't ever take private work from any of their existing clients
You and Pheelky standing by company door and solicit clients who walk to visit the company. WB should call the security to remove you from the company area immediately.
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| sandyy |
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Dec 17, 11, 04:01PM
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pheelyks: He wasn't talking to you.
I am talking to myself.
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Edited by: FreelanceWriter Dec 17, 11, 04:43PM
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stu4: Among dozen others.
Name them.
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| WritersBeware |
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Dec 17, 11, 08:22PM
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stu4: Among dozen others.
Read any good articles lately?
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| Twig |
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Dec 18, 11, 09:48AM
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sandyy: We have to read assignment requirement and read the 4000 words essay first and then decide who/which side is the scammer. not paid could be the result of not answering the questions, then that 4000 words equals zero value. ( just one of a guess)
Below is the link:
Topic: The theory of the Separation of Powers (student did not pay)
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| pheelyks |
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Dec 18, 11, 12:51PM
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The writer needs a dictionary, and should shy away from using words they don't really know.
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| ineedawriter |
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Dec 20, 11, 12:57PM
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stu4: The best way is get a good writer. Or good company. Only then youre protected. Pheelky or FreelanceRewriter can change email every day. Company cant. And by days they are not good writers. As you see, those two charlataines actively steal clients of the company they represent. Better order from the company coz then youre more covered and have order ID #.
i disagree with you stu4...pheelyks is a good writer and he has written for me...freelancer writer is also honest...he tells you what he can do and can not do...same goes to pheelyks!!....
happy xmas
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Jan 5, 12, 11:44AM
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Maybe meeting halfway is better for both parties as the trust has to go both ways. So a downpayment/half the pay for half the job done then the rest when job is complete?
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Edited by: FreelanceWriter Jan 5, 12, 04:38PM
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shikss1: Maybe meeting halfway is better for both parties as the trust has to go both ways. So a downpayment/half the pay for half the job done then the rest when job is complete?
Unfortunately, there's no such thing. Regardless of whether it's 1 page or 100 pages, either the customer has to trust the writer to actually write something after paying in advance or the writer has to trust the customer to actually pay after spending time and effort working on the paper. If there's no deadline issue, you could always pay for only a few pages or for just one section of a longer paper before you pay for the whole thing, or you could order a short paper before trusting a writer with a major project, but most of us aren't going to spend our time writing anything based on a promise from a stranger to pay us afterwards. You could also pay section by section, but at least in my case, nothing even gets scheduled on my calendar (let alone written) until it's paid in full. When you do this for a fulltime living, you're always working, you routinely write all night long and constantly blow off other things in your life to take as much work as possible and meet deadlines, and your hands always hurt. No way in Hell I'm working 8 hours (or whatever) on a paper and then just hoping that the customer actually pays me afterwards. That time costs me other work, or a workout, or sleep, or time that I could use to get other things done in my life that are always on hold because I'm busy writing for a living. If you don't pay me, that time is lost and I've worked very hard for nothing.
We writers have no way to collect or force you to pay afterwards and there's no website or forum where customers would have to worry about their reputations if they're not honest. You have at least some recourse to recover a payment depending on how you pay if we don't provide the work and you could trash our reputations here. You can also ask for references in advance and for samples of our work but there's nothing comparable from the other end of things.
As I've said many times, the first time always requires you to trust the writer. Start with a smaller paper with plenty of time if there's a problem. Don't wait until you have a crucial long paper due in 3 days before looking for a writer.
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| MeoKhan |
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Jan 6, 12, 05:23AM
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I couldn't agree more.
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| amnateeb |
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Jan 6, 12, 07:00AM
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pheelyks: The writer needs a dictionary, and should shy away from using words they don't really know.
.. and Pheelyks needs to get enrolled in an English language class to learn how to construct a sentence. Lol!
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| Juliano |
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Edited by: Juliano Jan 7, 12, 05:58AM
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FreelanceWriter: The customer has to trust the writer to actually write something after paying in advance or the writer has to trust the customer to actually pay after spending time and effort working on the paper nothing even gets scheduled on my calendar (let alone written) until it's paid in full. When you do this for a fulltime living, you're always working, you routinely write all night long and constantly blow off other things in your life to take as much work as possible and meet deadlines, and your hands always hurt. .. That time costs me other work, or a workout, or sleep, or time that I could use to get other things done in my life that are always on hold because I'm busy writing for a living.
I don't want to be offending but who are you? And why should a student trust you, regardless your reputation which means on the internet unfortunately nothing? I am having, after reading for like 15 minutes the first time on this forum, the feeling that you spend a lot of time not on writing for your customers. Instead it seems like you spend it on self promotion through big.. lets just call it text walls :o.
But I must anyhow admit that I like your writing style & way of argue. What would you think if a reader wants to meet his writer in advance?
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Edited by: FreelanceWriter Jan 7, 12, 12:05PM
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Juliano: I don't want to be offending but who are you? And why should a student trust you, regardless your reputation which means on the internet unfortunately nothing? I am having, after reading for like 15 minutes the first time on this forum, the feeling that you spend a lot of time not on writing for your customers. Instead it seems like you spend it on self promotion through big.. lets just call it text walls :o.
Juliano: But I must anyhow admit that I like your writing style & way of argue. What would you think if a reader wants to meet his writer in advance? |
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| MeoKhan |
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Jan 8, 12, 06:10AM
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Haha!
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| amnateeb |
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Jan 9, 12, 11:19AM
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A student receives his essay and pays the writer for his work. The student is not able to check the quality of the work provided as he barely speaks English. Later the student gets a bad mark on the essay with a feedback that the essay was very bad. He contacts Paypal for a refund saying that he has not received the essay so far. What can a writer do in such situation? Even if the writer posts the essay on internet, there is no use of doing so as the essay has already been used by the client.
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Jan 9, 12, 01:38PM
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amnateeb: A student receives his essay and pays the writer for his work. The student is not able to check the quality of the work provided as he barely speaks English. Later the student gets a bad mark on the essay with a feedback that the essay was very bad. He contacts Paypal for a refund saying that he has not received the essay so far. What can a writer do in such situation? Even if the writer posts the essay on internet, there is no use of doing so as the essay has already been used by the client.
That's a real shock right there, huh?
If you can't write a decent essay or figure out how to protect yourself in that situation, this might not be the right job for you.
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| pio |
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Jan 9, 12, 03:22PM
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FreelanceWriter - I'm new to all of this and I've found it hard to find companies who write papers to a fairly high standard. My experiences (albeit very minimal) have resulted in papers which have obviously been written by someone who doesn't speak English as their first language. Granted, I haven't trawled through the numerous other threads on this site but, as you seem to talk the most sense, I wondered if you knew how I can find a reputable company (PM if that's easier). Any help appreciated.
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| amnateeb |
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Edited by: amnateeb Jan 10, 12, 01:04AM
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Shut up, FreelanceF*cker. I was expecting a reply like this but not from you at least. You think like a toddler. Instead of answering my question, you started blaming me. If I were the writer, I would have posted the essays first then started discussion. How silly you are. If you are not able to think positive, go f*ck yourself.
This situation happened to one of my clients. The essays written by his previous writer were pathetic. My client is enrolled in a UK Business degree program. He let the essays checked by his local teacher who approved his essays. Then he paid the writer and sent three essays to the UK. He got his essays marked 52, 50 and 43 out of 100 for each assignment. He contacted Paypal and told them the writer had not delivered his essays at all. He asked me to write his assignments and before actually assigning me any essay or coursework, he asked a lot of questions. He told me what had happened to him as he was really worried. I asked him to show me the essays. He was not agreed to send me, but later he sent me his essays. I was shocked to see the writer's level. The writer did not even know about Harvard referencing. His rates were very high, even more than double of my rate. Even pathetic writers like FreelanceF*cker do not charge that much. Now my question is how can he get his money back? What if his writer posts all the essays on internet? Will it harm the student in any way? I think his essays have been used and even if writer posts his essays, he won't be in trouble. Logical comments please.
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Jan 10, 12, 01:46AM
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amnateeb: The student is not able to check the quality of the work provided as he barely speaks English.
Then you and he are perfectly matched because he won't realize that you barely speak English.
To answer your original question, the writer obviously just forwarded to PayPal the original email to his client with the attached file showing that the customer was lying when he said he "never received" the work from him. If he continues trying to make life miserable for the writer after trying unsuccessfully to defraud him out of his fee by lying to PayPal, there are definitely ways for the writer to find out where he goes to school and just return the favor.
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| amnateeb |
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Jan 10, 12, 06:03AM
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FreelanceWriter: Then you and he are perfectly matched because he won't realize that you barely speak English.
You need not worry about my writing skills. If you improve your skills, it will benefit you. Get the hell out of here, dumb ass.
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| amnateeb |
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Jan 10, 12, 06:19AM
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FreelanceWriter: If you can't write a decent essay or figure out how to protect yourself in that situation, this might not be the right job for you.
FreelanceWriter: To answer your original question, the writer obviously just forwarded to PayPal the original email to his client with the attached file showing that the customer was lying when he said he "never received" the work from him. If he continues trying to make life miserable for the writer after trying unsuccessfully to defraud him out of his fee by lying to PayPal, there are definitely ways for the writer to find out where he goes to school and just return the favor.
What a hypocrite you are, FreelancePo*p. Your first posts reflected your opinion against me and in favor of the client because you thought I was the writer. In your second post, you again attacked me changing your opinion, and commented against the client because you thought I was favoring the client. Lol!
You people can't deal honestly as you have dual personalities. You guys always want to comment against others and have no interest in helping others. No respect for you sh*itters.
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| amnateeb |
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Jan 10, 12, 06:56AM
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In your second post, why did you show sympathy for writer when I told you the writer was highly unqualified? Btw, the writer cannot find out the client's details. Paypal said it did not protect goods delivered through emails. If the writer forwards them the email, the client will say he wanted a hard copy. That's what he told me. I am not favoring either of them. It's an usual case and I am sharing this because I want to know what can one do if such situation happens. Whether the client gets his money back or not is a separate issue. Long story short, if the writer posts those used essays on internet, will the student get harmed?
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| pheelyks |
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Jan 10, 12, 09:54AM
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This whole story sounds made up t me, given what I know about how PayPal works. Sounds like you need to learn a lot of things about this business before you try scamming people, amadweeb.
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| amnateeb |
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Jan 10, 12, 10:34AM
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Paypal does not offer its services to my country that's why I don't know how it works. I said what I was told. PhyLeaks, you better ask Paypal how it works. You don't want to believe this story, that is your problem. I did not post to convince you guys. I got to have a client who said he was scammed by a writer. I don't know who is actually a scammer. I told him it was his local teacher's fault who could not figure out the essays were not up to the standard, but he said he cannot argue with the teacher. I will suggest him not to ask for a refund because when a client receives the work and pays after getting agreed to the quality, the writer is not responsible for grades. I write essays and make changes to it IF students require, and more often than not, they do not require rewrites. I just wanted to know what else a writer can do if such situation happens. I can't understand why it is so difficult for you guys to understand a simple question which is: Will the goofy student get ****** up if the **** writer posts the used essays on internet?
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