| Torchwood |
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Edited by: Torchwood Jan 31, 07, 11:53AM
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I was just reading this forum and decided that I should post a note of caution about ukessays.com / oxbridgegraduates.com
I'm a student who also writes for ukessays.com and as far as I know the work they provide is a reasonable standard (at least what I write is!). They don't require that their writers are graduates, just that they are on track to achieve a 2:1 which for most students is okay as the writer is probably around the same standard that they are.
A friend of mine recently asked for advice on getting a top notch essay so I recommended oxbridgegraduates.com as this site was set up by ukessays.com and the site says that they provide "2:1 and 1st class essays by qualified graduates from Oxford and Cambridge universities". I thought that this was a better deal for him than ukessays as he would get a graduate to write his essay, rather than student like me, and he's also be guaranteed to get someone who had graduated from Oxbridge rather than a student or graduate of any old university or college.
I was very surprised when I saw my friend's order circulated to ukessays.com writers and checked with him that he did order from oxbridgegraduates - which he did. The order circulated to ukessays.com writers did not give any clue that it had been placed with oxbridgegraduates and didn't stipulate that the writer must be a graduate or have been to Oxford or Cambridge - so, from the details circulated, any writer who had completed a few pieces of work with ukessays.com could request to take on the order even if, like me, they were not a graduate and had never stepped foot inside either Oxford or Cambridge universities.
It is of course possible that ukessays.com do make additional checks on the writers who 'bid' for the work to ensure that they fulful the criteria promised on the oxbridgegraduates website (i.e. that the writers are Oxbridge graduates) - even though they don't ask the writers for this information in the circulated 'brief'. I am, however, peturbed that they are offering out this work to people who plainly are not graduates and have no connection to Oxbridge.
As ukessays offer work to their writers by subject specific mailing lists, it would not seem difficult for them to set up a mailing list of Oxbridge graduates so that orders made on the Oxbridgegraduates website were only offered to appropriately qualified writers. As an essay ordered from oxbridgegraduates.com is significantly more expensive than one ordered from ukessays.com, I think that consumers should seek additional assurances that they are getting what they are paying a premium for.
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| Amy1978 |
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Jan 31, 07, 05:42PM
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The whole "Oxbridge" writer claim is pure garbage. It's nothing more that a deceitful marketing ploy.
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| Dylan |
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Feb 2, 07, 05:41PM
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Very interesting post!
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| buxy |
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Feb 19, 07, 03:12PM
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Your post, Torchwood, had revealed another truth about online writing companies - now, nobody is secured from redirecting.
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| JenniferAA |
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Nov 5, 08, 11:48AM
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Hi all,
All UK Essays writers are graduates - I'm not sure how you got on our books if you don't have a degree Torchwood - I don't suppose you'll want to give me your contact info to investigate?
UK Essays is part of Academic Answers Ltd which has a number of different websites - a few new ones that are literally just in the process of being launched allow students to write for them but only where the website actually makes it clear that what you're getting is a student writer and not a writer with a degree. UK Essays doesn't offer this service - one of the guarantees on UK Essays is that the writer will be qualified so if we didn't give the customer a qualified writer, we'd be in breach of contract and subject to English law as for any other UK Company. I'm a F.ILEX and so I wouldn't be able to work for a company that was trading fraudulently like this.
The Oxbridge sites do send the orders out to all writers on our books but only those with an Oxbridge degree are accepted.
I hope this is helpful but I'd be very pleased to answer any more questions on this - Amy, have you had a bad experience that leads you to believe the Oxbridge promise isn't truthful? There are a number of Oxbridge sites on the web and not all belong to us.
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| dreamer |
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Nov 7, 08, 05:36AM
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Torchwood: I'm a student who also writes for ukessays.com
I was so sure of using UK essays. I had received good reports. Now I am not very sure!!
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| JenniferAA |
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Nov 7, 08, 02:00PM
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Dreamer, all I can say is, take everything you read in here with a pinch (or a bag) of salt. There are lots of people who are just here to cause trouble, to take down other writing companies who they are in competition with - that sort of thing. If the complaint is genuine, people won't mind giving out a few details so we can get things sorted for them but more often than not, they refuse - which just exposes them for who they really are. Shame really, it could be such a useful forum if it wasn't abused this way :-|
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| exwriter |
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Edited by: exwriter Nov 7, 08, 02:53PM
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JenniferAA: Dreamer, all I can say is, take everything you read in here with a pinch (or a bag) of salt
Including the promises made by the companies Jennifer represents. they treat their writers appallingly and allow students to cheat. Getting a good piece of work is a lottery. It is impossible for ANY company to guarantee a particular grade since individual lecturers can have harsher grading systems then others. When I was at university a long time ago one of the lecturers there frequently downmarked work if she thought it would make the student work harder on the next piece. She openly admitted this to the group and when the head of the department was asked to deal with this matter he just laughed saying that it was 'a quirk of her nature and she often does things like that'.
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| exwriter |
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Nov 7, 08, 03:11PM
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Here's an interesting article about mr littlewood (apparently unable to secure pupillage after training) Maybe now we can see why he promotes cheating. A disgruntled barrister unable to continue further in his career because no one wanted to give him a pupillage.
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Nov 7, 08, 04:29PM
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JenniferAA: Dreamer, all I can say is, take everything you read in here with a pinch (or a bag) of salt. There are lots of people who are just here to cause trouble, to take down other writing companies who they are in competition with - that sort of thing. If the complaint is genuine, people won't mind giving out a few details so we can get things sorted for them but more often than not, they refuse - which just exposes them for who they really are. Shame really, it could be such a useful forum if it wasn't abused this way :-|
Jennifer, the only "abuse" taking place is your incessant promotion. When are you going to get it through your skull that we know who you REALLY are and how you REALLY conduct business when the world isn't watching? You're fooling no one with your "caring representative" act.
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| JenniferAA |
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Nov 7, 08, 04:35PM
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Hey again WB :)
I know you know who I am - because I keep telling everyone quite openly who I am - I certainly have nothing to hide :) I'm here to help any customers who feel they have had a bad experience with our company or indeed any essay company, and to answer any negative posts which I feel all companies should quite rightly have the opportunity of doing. This is not promotion in my book but I'm happy for you to call it that if it makes you feel better.
exwriter, that's your opinion to which you are very entitled, of course - as an ex writer of the company, it's not really surprising you think that :-)
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| exwriter |
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Nov 7, 08, 05:47PM
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JenniferAA: exwriter, that's your opinion to which you are very entitled, of course - as an ex writer of the company, it's not really surprising you think that :-)
An ex writer out of choice not because my contract was terminated by you. I DECIDED TO VOTE WITH MY FEET WHEN YOU STARTED RIPPING MY FRIENDS AND I OFF.
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| dreamer |
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Nov 11, 08, 06:19PM
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JenniferAA: Dreamer, all I can say is, take everything you read in here with a pinch (or a bag) of salt.
The problem here for a student is this: We all know about the bad sites. But not about a single good site. I feel that there should be some pointers towards the good sites too. We simply don't know.
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| MAK |
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Nov 11, 08, 09:18PM
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The days of most AK's and D and D's outlets are numbered.They have enough ill-will from ex-writers and sooner or later the UK universities will have them down.
Pinch of Salt indeed@Jennifer....you will need a mine of salt to put up with the trouble you are about to get into....hahahaha!
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Edited by: jingjam Jan 31, 09, 03:30AM
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I used oxbridgewriters.com for a piece of course work before Christmas 08. I specified and was charged for a 2:1 standard, I certainly didn't receive said standard. I can't believe that what I received was written by an Oxbridge graduate. I'm not sure if the essay that I received would have even passed (it might have scraped 40%). I ordered it not because I'm lazy, stupid etc... I had a good understanding of the topic, which is how I knew the essay was terrible, I am just desperate for a good mark. So I wanted a model answer. I edited what I received hugely, it went from 1000 words to over 3000 after I had finished. I got the mark last week and it got 75%. So if you are banking on this service delivering what they promise, I do think more often than not you will be disappointed. However if you are just after a few references, and somebody else's take on the subject, then go for it. But as I say they should only be used as a model that you understand will require a large amount of work to get it up to a decent standard. Lets face it, no student is going to take them to court, we are all too scared of being exposed for cheating. They have you over a barrel and they know it. I would honestly now just advise that you do the work yourself. We pay an awful lot in the UK to go to uni. If you are struggling just talk to your lecturer. I have never come across a lecturer that wouldn't bend over backwards to help me understand the subject. You don't need this service. Just plan a schedule of work, speak to tutors and together you will get what you want. You will also be able to sleep at night not worrying that you are about to get caught for plagiarism.
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| sallyturnstock |
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Feb 16, 09, 09:58AM
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This is what you get when their essays fail and you are left with your tits hanging out -
"As written in our Terms and Conditions, we keep copyright protection on all written pieces by our researchers. To submit the piece as your own, or largerly as your own, constitutes plagiarism, and is a breach of the Terms and Conditions."
So their essay is crap and then they tell you that you weren't allowed to use it anyway!!! That's nice to know.
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| dreamer |
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Feb 16, 09, 11:48AM
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sallyturnstock: So their essay is crap and then they tell you that you weren't allowed to use it anyway!!! That's nice to know.
Why do you post it on all threads?
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