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monsta2005Threads: 2
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Nov 11, 08, 12:29PM | #1
Has anyone ever written for academic knowledge? Whats your experience of them? They have sent me a big long contract to sign but am reluctant....

exwriterThreads: 4
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Nov 11, 08, 01:17PM | #2
As an ex writer for this company DO NOT WRITE for them. They also go under the name of UKessays and others. See the posts on UKessays and you will know why to avoid them.

They fine their writers 300% for late submissions, customer complaints re quality, and 5000 for plagiarism issues. I left after being charged 300% when the student claimed that the essay did not get the grade she wanted after she handed in the work as her own!

dreamer   Nov 11, 08, 06:27PM | #3
exwriter:
They fine their writers 300% for late submissions, customer complaints re quality, and 5000 for plagiarism issues

Frightening! JenniferAA, is this true? Are they just robbing the writers or are they really concerned about the students? I hope you would answer! Do they return the fine to the aggrieved student?

MAKThreads: 3
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Nov 11, 08, 08:42PM | #4
This is 100% true.You will make roughly the same amount of money working for other UK essay sites with a lot less mental torture.You never know what their "quality" department may decide. They are bloodsuckers I tell ya!

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Nov 12, 08, 03:23AM | #5
Ok thanks for the posts. Ill stay well away.
PS. What sites are good to write for?

Only gonna be writing for the next few weeks i reckon.

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Nov 12, 08, 05:54AM | #6
Hey Mak, Seems like your experienced writing for some of the major essay writing companies. Can you recommend any that pay well and on time, should have a fair bit of work available and are not scammers....

dreamer   Nov 12, 08, 06:30PM | #7
MAK:
This is 100% true

surprising and terrifying. Who will write for them under these conditions? Having said that, I have seen an essay writen by them and it was really good.

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Nov 12, 08, 10:14PM | #8
dreamer:
surprising and terrifying. Who will write for them under these conditions? Having said that, I have seen an essay writen by them and it was really good.


I never claimed that the quality of the essays was poor- after all I used to write for them and I always produced a well researched piece of work worthy of a good grade. The problem with this company is the atrocious way they treat their writers.

I for one used to dread the few days after submitting a piece in case the customer wanted extra adding. I was constantly worrying that the work would be challenged by the quality department and a fine would follow. As a writer with no direct contact with the customer you could never be certain whether the quality department had had a complaint or request for an amendment or whether they were using this department to deduct money from you.


dreamer   Nov 13, 08, 06:44PM | #10
exwriter:
I for one used to dread the few days after submitting a piece in

I don't know how any one can write for a company which deducts 300%. Writers should keep themselves miles away from such a company. It is possible that they deduct money by making wrong allegations.

Heard that Academia Research is paying only 2 per page now to the writers!!

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Nov 14, 08, 09:10PM | #11
dreamer:
Heard that Academia Research is paying only 2 per page now to the writers!!


I am a premium writer at Academia-Research. They pay on time and even ahead of pay schedule. THere are no penalties imposed for late submission.


WritersBeware   Nov 14, 08, 09:16PM | #13
MasterPapers.com fraud

serene   Nov 16, 08, 08:53AM | #14
jolibee:
I am a premium writer at Academia-Research. They pay on time and even ahead of pay schedule

I am sure your experience has been different. I wrote to them for sometime. It is impossible to have an ongoing relationship with that company. They never answer the mails. There is no response at all. Whenever they respond, they are not pertinent. It is like talking to a deaf and dumb person. THEY DO DEDUCT MONEY FOR LATE SUBMISSION, EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT HAVE OCCURRED DUE TO THEIR UNRESPONSIVE ATTITUDE. I left and they did not give my last salary. Instead Alex send an abusive letter. It is a rotten company. They sell essays after giving it to the students. Their billing company is always going through difficulties so that the writer payment is always delayed. Even students should not approach this company. Sometimes writers get paid only $4 per page.

serene   Nov 16, 08, 08:54AM | #15
Sorry about the mistakes above. Sitting in a dingy place without much light. Our flat lights are out. Sorry, please correct them while reading, like "I wrote for them for sometime" etc.

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Nov 18, 08, 06:02AM | #16
Hi all,

I have just replied on another thread with a similar theme.

Remember that on the whole, Academic Knowledge / Deveraux and Deloitte / Academic Answers / UK Essays etc are able to pay writers far more than most companies because they charge customers more - and they are able to charge customers more because they offer more. For example, they offer a 5,000 no plagiarism guarantee and a delivery on time promise. These are very valuable guarantees and customers are willing to pay more for them. All writers agree to uphold these guarantees when they join us - they don't have to write for us. Also remember that we're an agency so the writer is (effectively) agreeing with the customer to uphold the guarantee.

Regarding the following:

exwriter:
They fine their writers 300% for late submissions


Yes, that's right - unless the writer phone ups and arrange to extend it. Our customers are often working to tight deadlines and getting the work on time is extremely important to them. At the same time, we appreciate sometimes writers may fall ill or need extra support and we're very accomodating if we have notice of the problem.

exwriter:
customer complaints re quality


Not true. Why would we offer an amendments service if we fined the writer every time the customer complained about quality? That would make no sense. Please also read my reply below to the other post which explains that we could not legally profit from this in the way that has been suggested in these forums.

exwriter:
5000 for plagiarism issues


Yes, if you plagiarise work, you will be directly responsible to the customer for the 5,000 guarantee. You agree to write for us on these terms. The solution? Don't plagiarise. Is this too much to ask? I don't think so, as a writer myself. Of course, we're not unreasonable and again everything has to be done in a way that would be upheld by the Courts, if it came to that. If the plagiarism is, for example, a genuine mistake, or more to do with an isolated incident sloppy referencing than anything, we have a clause in place in the customer contract that says it won't apply. Once again, we're an agency - the guarantees are made by the writer to the customer, and so the money goes to the customer.

exwriter:
I left after being charged 300% when the student claimed that the essay did not get the grade she wanted after she handed in the work as her own!


Please see my reply to another thread - which explains the only instances where a writer would be charged such a fee.

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Nov 18, 08, 11:06AM | #17
I wouldn't waste my time applying to Academic Knowledge as the chances of you being allocated work are 1 in 100. I know a friend whose application was accepted and bid after bid after bid and 2 years on he has yet to be allocated any work. He is on the bronze level and asked ukessays to increase it to at least silver but they declined saying that he needs to prove his worth. How the hell does someone prove his/her worth when they can't even get any work. Ukessays is for established researchers only so i wouldn't waste my time applying.

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Nov 18, 08, 12:32PM | #18
JenniferAA:
So what the people are saying in this forum is incorrect. A small mistake would not entitled the customer to a refund. Not submitting the work on time or submitting work that is substantially below the quality ordered, are the only things that would entitle them to a refund. Any money claimed from our writers has to be the actual loss suffered - we cannot and will never make a profit using the terms of our contract that allow us to deduct money where there is a problem. To do so would be a breach of contract, and our writers could quite easily sue us using Money Claims Online. The writer also is obliged to complete amendments if these are fair and just, and if they are requested within a certain time of the work being submitted to us. Why would we charge our writer 300% for a small mistake that could be rectified through the amendments process? We'd just ask them to correct it. That doesn't make sense and is plainly untrue.


I forwarded the email I received from AK to WB showing I was fined 300% for an issue where the customer claimed that the essay THEY SUBMITTED TO THEIR UNIVERSITY DID NOT GET THE GRADE THEY ANTICIPATED, And AK claim that customers are discouraged from submitting these as their own!!Surely the customer should have been told ' you should not have submitted this as your own work so tough - no refund' As if AK would do that!

And am I really supposed to believe you lost 240 as a result of this? You call this a fair amount?

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Nov 18, 08, 12:38PM | #19
I notice how Jennifer side stepped the issue regarding her so called claims to have passed the LPC.

JenniferAAThreads: 1
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Nov 19, 08, 05:03AM | #20
Hi Vishkanya, I think I've replied to this in another thread - they just send on some examples of their work - they can also complete mini projects for us.

EW, I think I've explained the contractual position but if you're unhappy, and you really feel we've been extortionate, why not take legal action against us? If everything you say is genuine and you produced great work, to the standard ordered, and there were no other issues, file a claim using Money Claim Online and get it sorted.

Regarding my qualifications, once again, it's off topic and irrelevant. I've set them out previously and it was met with questions on why I took the qualification route I did (!?). It's none of anyone's business - this is a site to help customers who have been scammed and I have no need or wish to talk about my personal details further.

exwriterThreads: 4
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Nov 19, 08, 12:43PM | #21
JenniferAA:
EW, I think I've explained the contractual position but if you're unhappy, and you really feel we've been extortionate, why not take legal action against us? If everything you say is genuine and you produced great work, to the standard ordered, and there were no other issues, file a claim using Money Claim Online and get it sorted.


Given that the amount fined was 240 and it costs 80 to start a claim online AND the whole business of essay writing is regarded as shady anyway there is little point. I put this down to experience and made the best decision I could ever make and quit. The purpose of my post is not to try to recoup the money your company swiped from me but to warn others of your shady practice.

Oh and no Jennifer you do not have an LPC- This I can prove through communication with the law society. And yes it is important to expose your lie as it shows the type of person you are and the type of company you represent. If you can lie about your qualifications you can certainly lie about how you treat your writers and customers.

As mentioned in a previous post I was initially offered employment under the misapprehension that I was writing model answers for the university not doing the students work so that they could submit MY work as THEIR own. Maybe I should pusue a claim under misrepresentation too!!!

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Nov 19, 08, 01:03PM | #22
Here's one site where our Jeny CLAIMS to be a lawyer

markmyessay.com/team.html

and this one

zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=-45444

as well as here

leedstrinity.ac.uk/news_events/news/Pages/Tocheatornottocheat%E2% 80%93thatistheessayquestion.aspx

and also here

forums.tvtrecords.com/profile.jspa?userID=46699

Now try to explain that Jennifer when you are not registered with the law society AS a lawyer but are claiming in various places to be a lawyer Tut Tut professional integrity NIL

WritersBeware   Nov 19, 08, 01:31PM | #23
Wow, Jennifer seems to be just as deceptive as all of the essay site owners from Ukraine and Pakistan.

JenniferAAThreads: 1
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Nov 19, 08, 02:17PM | #24
I'm not sure if you are English or American, exwriter, but in England, a F.ILEX is a lawyer. We are required to hold a practising certificate, we can work as fee earners, have rights of audience and we're commissioners for oaths.

I quote:

"Legal Executive lawyers specialise in a particular area of law which means the everyday work of a Legal Executive lawyer is similar to that of a solicitor. Depending upon which area of law they work in, Legal Executive lawyers may handle the legal aspects of a property transfer, be involved in actions in the High Court or County Courts, draft wills, draw up documents to assist in the formation of a company, or advise husbands and wives with matrimonial problems or clients accused of serious or petty crime".

(http://www.ilex.org.uk/about_legal_executives.aspx)

I hope this helps - I don't work at Freeth Cartwright anymore though (per your Zoom link) as I left around three years ago when I moved.

So I'm sorry to disappoint you but I'm not deceptive at all - unlike some people in here, I am very honest and open about my identity, and I've also been honest and open about my professional qualifications - but, once again, they are irrelevant to this forum or to the job I'm doing here.

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Nov 19, 08, 02:49PM | #25
JenniferAA:
I'm not sure if you are English or American, exwriter, but in England, a F.ILEX is a lawyer. We are required to hold a practising certificate, we can work as fee earners, have rights of audience and we're commissioners for oaths.


Ha ha Ha ha ha that is the best joke I have heard in ages and an utter load of garbage. As a member of the law society I can assure you that this is utter tosh. You ARE NOT A LAWYER no matter how much you would like to be YOU ARE A LEGAL EXECUTIVE a lowly version of a lawyer. Try applying to a law firm and you will be asked how many years PQE you have - in your case none as you have NOT passed the LPC. A lawyer gains the right to call themselves a lawyer by passing this exam A barrister gains the right to be called a barrister by passing the BVC - which I have also done and am a member of the bar council and the inns of court in London.

Legal executives CANNOT claim to be lawyers and WILL not be taken on by a firm as a lawyer,

You CLAIM to be a LAWYER and you are a FRAUD. I have spoken to my colleagues at the law society today and they will be checking the CLAIMS you are making. Thanks for this post I will include this in my report to them tomorrow.

exwriterThreads: 4
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Nov 19, 08, 02:55PM | #26
Oh and for your information designated case workers and high court advocates work for CPS but are not LAWYERS they are caseworkers that have worked their way up and have the right of audience in certain courts.

Archaic as it may seem only barristers get to wear wigs and appear in some of the higher courts, though recent changes have allowed lawyers and other lowly legal workers such as legal execs and paralegals to worj in certain courts.

Guess I don't need to do anymore to prove I could run rings round you in the legal sphere since I not only have an LPC but also have a BVC and certificates to prove it and my name in the law society annals as well as logged with the bar council and the inns of court.

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Nov 19, 08, 03:06PM | #27
The role of a Legal Executive is so similar to that of a solicitor that the average client is unlikely to be able to distinguish between them.

Quote taken from

http://www.ilexcareers.org.uk/what_is_a_legal_executive.aspx

Similar to a solicitor NOT a solicitor.

ILEX might like to think they are LAWYERS but the fact remains that a person is only entitled to call themselves a LAWYER when they pass the LPC AND are listed by the Law Society.

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Nov 19, 08, 03:38PM | #28
And the silence from Jennifer is deafening!

At least she has learned something today- it is not wise to challenge the knowledge of someone on a particular topic unless you know who that person is and what there background or qualifications are.

I wonder if the law society might decide to make an example of Jennifer for claiming to have completed the LPC when she hasn't. Professional ethics don't seem to come into her world. Wonder also if FILEX are aware that she passes herself off as qualified as a lawyer despite not having completed the LPC.

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Nov 19, 08, 03:51PM | #29
The ILEX Code of Conduct

A member, in his professional life and employment, shall so conduct himself and the matters of which he has conduct, in such a manner:

As to avoid any action or situation which may bring disrepute upon the Institute or its members;

As to avoid doubt being cast upon his own professional integrity
As will assist the impartial administration of justice
As will recognise that the interests of the client are paramount to those of all others, save that at all times and in all matters a member's primary and overriding duty is to the court and shall observe and be bound by this Code of Conduct and the Guides to Good Practice issued from time to time by the Institute.

Read your code of conduct Jennifer - I think your recommendation that LPC and BVC students should use AK's services to complete their course might suggest you lack of professional integrity as does your assertion that you have completed the LPC and are qualified as a lawyer.

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Nov 20, 08, 04:15AM | #30
exwriter, unlike you, I don't have a lot of time to visit these forums. My lack of reply reflects that I'm a busy person, not that you've said something useful.

If you have a complaint against me, make it to the appropriate authority. I'm here to help customers, not disgruntled writers who did a poor job and as a result, now have too much time on their hands :-) Consider this thread closed unless any genuine customers need my help.

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Nov 20, 08, 11:36AM | #31
JenniferAA:
If you have a complaint against me, make it to the appropriate authority. I'm here to help customers, not disgruntled writers who did a poor job and as a result, now have too much time on their hands :-) Consider this thread closed unless any genuine customers need my help.


Thanks for giving me permission to report you to ILEX (not that I needed your permission I just did it anyway) As for having too much time on my hands I usually go on in the evenings as a way of relaxing after a hard day at work. Given I probably earn considerably more than you in one day I don't need to write for a company that rips writers off. When I did work for you this was not to make a massive amount of money but as a way of keeping the old grey cells active AND I thought I was writing for universities NOT students.

Oh and by the way saying THIS THREAD IS CLOSED doesn't make it happen just like saying YOU ARE A LAWYER doesn't make you a lawyer. Get the picture!!!


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Jan 8, 09, 04:30AM | #33
Hi,

I've written for academic knowledge for a number of years and they treat me OK. I'm always paid on time and I get quite a bit of work from them. Also, the pay is pretty good and its put into your account at the beginning of the month. Its very reliable.

Their I.T. system is hideously constructed and throws out automated quality fines and threatening messages all of the time, but in my case if you send them a vaguely threatening email they seem to cancel it pretty quickly. I do agree that the 300% fine is scary and unnecessary. I complain to them all the time about that as I think it's deeply unethical, although they've always cancelled it in my case, otherwise I wouldn't be working for them now.

If you can get a successful bid in its worth spending a lot of time on the essay because then you'll probably get more to work on and then you can be a little bit less thorough. In my experience its worth the effort if you can blag a decent essay that will get a high grade. The pay is really good and I feel it justifies the more rubbish side to working for this company. I seem to get a lot of business and finance essays mainly, so if that's your speciality, good luck at stealing one of my main streams of income!

Cheers for the very useful website, by the way.

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Jan 8, 09, 12:59PM | #34
curios:
I do agree that the 300% fine is scary and unnecessary. I complain to them all the time about that as I think it's deeply unethical, although they've always cancelled it in my case, otherwise I wouldn't be working for them now.


Just how many times have they tried to fine you 300%!

Don't you also find the endless badgering for confirmation annoying and I used to dread emails from the quality department even though sometimes it was to tell me I had scored high enough to get a bonus. I used to also get annoyed with clients asking for trivial amendments such as reducing the word count (an obvious sign that they were going to submit my work as their own) and requests for things like page numbers to be added or the line spacing to be increased or the font to be altered (even more evidence that these essays were going to be submitted without any alteration to the content etc).

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Jan 11, 09, 01:01PM | #35
Yeah they've sent me those 300% fine threats so many times now its kind of lost its edge. I think they're pretty hollow anyway; I'd imagine it'd be difficult legal ground for the company charging you money to complete work for them. I think they just use it to try and coerce writers into meeting their deadlines more regularly.

I don't really mind about making those small, niggling amendment requests about formatting etc. Although it's against the company policy, I don't really have a problem with students handing in my work. I figure they pay through the nose for it so they can do what they like with it once its done.

Its the massive amendment requests that I worry about. Once I got an amendments request to translate an essay I'd written into Italian! Then there's those clients that think you've got psychic powers, and talk about how you failed to mention some specific book or whatever that they'd just looked at and didn't bother to mention. They're annoying because they never seem to go away.

On the plus side though, I get extra payment for larger amendments if it wasn't in the original brief.

I understand that this company really should work on their attitude towards writers at times, but mostly they've been pretty nice to me. I think you just have to argue back at them when they overstep the mark.

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Jan 11, 09, 01:11PM | #36
curios:
Once I got an amendments request to translate an essay I'd written into Italian!


Sounds wierd! Im curious .....what was all that about???

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Jan 12, 09, 07:40PM | #37
It was an English Literature essay about an Italian writer that said explicitly in the brief that it was OK to write in English. I presume the client (probably a foreign language student) couldn't understand the essay so wanted a translation to compare it against or something. It is weird that some clients seem to presume that the essayist is some kind of all-seeing, all-knowing deity, but there we are. Unfortunately I had to explain that my knowledge of Italian only stretched to rudimentary pasta shapes and phrases from The Godfather.

I explained this to the company and they thought it was all quite amusing. I was paid in full for the essay anyway.

On another note Academic Knowledge have recently updated their very temperamental communications system, something which appears to be a constant source of misery for writers. First impressions aren't too good - it's taken me three days to contact them through their new website so it seems to be business as usual on that front. I'll send an update in a couple of weeks when they've fine-tuned it all though.

WritersBeware   Jan 12, 09, 07:56PM | #38
curios:
First impressions aren't too good - it's taken me three days to contact them through their new website so it seems to be business as usual on that front.

Funny--they seem to have all the time in the world to send "Jennifer" over here to lie about her legal credentials and whore their blatantly overpriced services, but writers continue to suffer.

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Jan 12, 09, 08:22PM | #39
Yes I've seen a lot of Jennifer's ramblings on here. She isn't too great at her sales patter is she?

That said, I wouldn't say that I've suffered as a result of this company as such. They pay quite well and I've never had problems receiving payment from them. Like I said, some of the staff working there are very supportive, while others are pretty hostile and arrogant. It's a mixed bag really. Plus their automated fining system just doesn't work and tends to make writers angry and disgruntled. In my experience you can complain about this and they apologise and get rid of the fine. Regardless, it's not ideal.

I suppose I'm quite an established writer for them though so they know that if they alienate me they're also alienating a major source of their profits. I guess that gives me some leeway when I'm ranting at them and can only presume from the comments on here that they treat other writers differently.

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Jan 15, 09, 05:53AM | #40
I wouldn't write for Academic Knowledge. I wouldn't say they're a scam but they treat their assets...their writers...as the most easily disposable assets. It is only a matter of time before you will run into this 'principle'. It's more hassle than it's worth. There are plenty other options available. Fine..they're in the money-making business and so are their writers.... That they need a JenniferAA on these boards to counter all the various criticisms and sway people the other way, is quite smart, although I wonder what effect she actually has.

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