| pheelyks |
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Oct 23, 09, 11:40AM
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Not sure what to make of this....except that it's just more ********.
UVO and Academic Expert have launched a forum (I'm not sure when; I just got an email in error from the UVO admin that led me to it) where writers can complain about things like not getting paid, not getting orders, etc. Not that it'll do much good.
If anyone wants to check it out and/or register to aid in the trash talking, the site is called gradlancer--Google will take you there.
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| AsianWriter |
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Oct 23, 09, 11:47AM
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What's wrong with this one?
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Oct 23, 09, 11:52AM
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The Ukrainian crook now claims to be "Alex Kingston" from Jamaica:
gradelancer.com
Alex (cybermediaboy@gmail.com)
address 1
Kingston
,01001
JM
Tel. +91.226370256
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Oct 23, 09, 12:11PM
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gradelancer.com/forum
I have never seen so many idiots and incompetent simpletons huddled together for warmth in one place.
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| WRT |
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Oct 23, 09, 12:16PM
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WritersBeware: gradelancer.com/forum
Did you see those gushing posts? Check out the "Working with UVoCorp is awe-inspiring" thread. It is hilarious :)
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Oct 23, 09, 12:57PM
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WritersBeware: I have never seen so many idiots and incompetent simpletons huddled together for warmth in one place.
You should add, "and only I am dying in cold"
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| AsianWriter |
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Oct 23, 09, 01:18PM
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Fracturegang: You should add, "and only I am dying in cold"
Hey there LIAR! You're being incoherent again. If WRT calls you a ULO, I'll call you an SLF.
SLF = Schizophrenic Lying Fool
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| WRT |
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Oct 23, 09, 01:20PM
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AsianWriter: SLF = Schizophrenic Lying Fool
Yes :):) ULO will soon have more nicknames than her pea-sized brain can absorb.
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| WRT |
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Oct 23, 09, 01:22PM
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ULO - please read Asian Writer's posts and study them as an example of ESL writers who have earned a place in the industry because
1) educated
2) know the language
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| AsianWriter |
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Oct 23, 09, 01:24PM
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WRT: an example of ESL writers who have earned a place in the industry
Gee, thanks.
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Oct 23, 09, 01:36PM
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WritersBeware: gradelancer.com/forum I have never seen so many idiots and incompetent simpletons huddled together for warmth in one place.
This is the "sad sad sad" plight of qualified ESLs... that we will always be grouped with these guys. I'm sorry if my last statement seemed presumptuous. I may not be as good as the other writers here, but I'm definitely better than those guys in the other forum... with the exception of pheelyks, of course.
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| pheelyks |
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Edited by: pheelyks Oct 23, 09, 01:57PM
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I don't expect my account with the gradelancer forum to last very long...my posts are not exactly constructive for the company hosting the site.
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 23, 09, 02:06PM
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pheelyks: I don't expect my account with the gradelancer forum to last very long...my posts are not exactly constructive for the company hosting the site.
Yup. My posts are already being deleted, and I have been permanently banned (at least under this username). If only they put this much effort into their company...
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| WRT |
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Oct 23, 09, 02:08PM
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AsianWriter: This is the "sad sad sad" plight of qualified ESLs... that we will always be grouped with these guys. I'm sorry if my last statement seemed presumptuous.
You are not being presumptuous and thank you for understanding that this is not about ESL writers, per se. It is about the ability to write, irrespective of nationality!
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Oct 23, 09, 02:08PM
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pheelyks: My posts are already being deleted, and I have been permanently banned
Eugene is a punk.
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| WRT |
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Oct 23, 09, 02:09PM
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pheelyks: My posts are already being deleted, and I have been permanently banned (at least under this username). If only they put this much effort into their company...
Eugene is a stickler for the rules and Rule #1 = only gushing praise is permitted.
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 23, 09, 02:10PM
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WritersBeware: Eugene is a punk.
I wrote him an email asking why I had been banned from a forum simply for telling the truth. Not that I expect a response.
Hey Michael, if you're still monitoring this board, what gives? Only people who still work for you are allowed to tell you how much you suck?
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 23, 09, 02:11PM
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WRT: Eugene is a stickler for the rules and Rule #1 = only gushing praise is permitted.
Actually, there are plenty of the usual complaints on the forum. They just all come from writers with no chance of landing a legitimate job, so they're all still hanging on with the company and hoping things turn around...after three years of complaints. It isn't just their English that's bad, it's their overall thinking.
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| WRT |
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Oct 23, 09, 02:12PM
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pheelyks: It isn't just their English that's bad, it's their overall thinking.
:) That is a good one!
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Edited by: pheelyks Oct 23, 09, 02:18PM
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A perfect example of why both writers and customers should stay away from UVO and Academic Experts:
"Hi, Eugene,
I am trying to correspond for many days to Alice she so lately replied or not responding and i m worried to get money soon as i need it urgently and i am requesting to her by several mails from 15 September to till now but here is no satisfactorily response from Alice and repersentative of writer support on chats! Please do some thing urgently to transfer money to my bank account! What a non-professional attitude of your finance department and writer support chat reperesentative! whenever i requested in chats to forward my request to Alice, they said, its customer department, send mail to Alice, she will reply you but she replied so lately and rarely that I m so upset to sending mails to her! What should i do now its satureday and then your last day of transfering payment will be over and i can't wait for next time to get money, so ask her to transfer money right now!
Regards,
Nabila Tanvir"
Too bad they can't stop us from viewing the forum.
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 23, 09, 02:19PM
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A reassuring response from another UVO writer regarding Alice's competency:
"Dont worry. She can be late but she makes sure you does the right thing always."
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| WRT |
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Oct 23, 09, 02:26PM
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What language is that?! Are all their writers Chachas and Fracturegangs?!
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Oct 23, 09, 05:20PM
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WRT: re all their writers Chachas and Fracturegangs?!
Frachas!
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Oct 23, 09, 10:44PM
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WritersBeware: Eugene is a punk.
S-WB (Sucking Wild Boar) is a whore.
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Oct 23, 09, 10:53PM
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You really should consider schooling.
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Oct 23, 09, 10:56PM
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WRT: What language is that?! Are all their writers Chachas and Fracturegangs?!
Suck Yourself, Egene will f**** you.
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Edited by: Fracturegang Oct 23, 09, 10:57PM
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WritersBeware: You really should consider schooling.
Will you come to me this night? I need a sucker like you.
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 25, 09, 03:43PM
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My favorite thread from Gradelancer:
Unrealistic revision deadlines and subsequent fines
by hfeatherina » Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:07 pm
I was sent a revision request at 9PM EST with a seven hour deadline (order#2092038).
I am only required by contract to check my email twice a day - and had checked my email at 9am, 12pm and 6pm.
I was informed of the revision request, the deadline already having expired, when i checked my email the next morning at 8am.
The revision was completed ASAP - i.e. before 10am the next morning.
As far as i can tell, revisions are supposed to have a 24hr deadline. I was not even given 18hrs. Furthermore, the 7hrs were not working hours in my timezone, which academicexperts.us if fully aware of.
I would like to contest the fine i have incurred on order #2092038 due to this problem. I have replied to the email informing me that i was late, but have yet to receive a response - it has now been 48hrs and i have rec'd a subsequent email informing me of the dollar amount of my fine. I further contested the actual revision request - which demanded work that was not in the original paper details, however, i completed the required work nonetheless.
I would very much like to feel that i can get a night's sleep without having my hard-earned money disappear in 15% increments during my slumber. Is more than 7hrs of revision time such an unreasonable request?
Re: Unrealistic revision deadlines and subsequent fines
by michael » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:23 pm
Dear writer,
Am sorry for this situation. Unfortunately we do not have 24 hours revision rules and demand writers to complete revisions by the indicated deadlines, unless the deadline can be prolonged.
Anyway, I will make sure any fines are removed since you have completed the paper and the customer was more than satisfied. Sorry this came to me that much late.
Michael,
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Re: Unrealistic revision deadlines and subsequent fines
by ikonye2000 » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:00 am
You have to realize that you must be visiting you order page regularly and some revision are 1hr only. there is no issue of time zone for customers and we have to give them quality work. remember, "The customer is alway right"
So Basically, if you work for UVO or Academic Experts, you are expected to wake up and check your order page at least once every hour to make sure there are no revision requests. And because the customer can set the deadline and make a revision request for any reason--including a change in topics or additional instructions not included in the initial description--you could be entirely screwed for a paper you completed perfectly. What a great company to work for!
"The customer is always right" my a$$--it's a way for the owners and admin to line their pockets with ridiculous fines. They know this policy is unfair and ridiculous, yet they explicitly defend it. Also note the near month it took this person to get a response--and he/she is obviously one of the better writers working for them.
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| WRT |
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Oct 25, 09, 03:49PM
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pheelyks: "The customer is always right" my a$$--it's a way for the owners and admin to line their pockets with ridiculous fines.
So true. Strange thing is that they are quite shameless about it all.
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Oct 25, 09, 04:17PM
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Hi All,
Thats very true about this company. Am shocked to hear am not the only affected by this. Unfortunately, you have to write on either order message area or email them of which they never reply. I haven't had much problems with them, but i trust their most writers are from Kenya and some parts of Asia. Are they based in UK or in the US.
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Oct 25, 09, 04:20PM
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Tonny: Are they based in UK or in the US.
UKRAINE.
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Oct 25, 09, 04:41PM
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Thanks writersBeware. Am a Kenyan working for them, though i don't doubt my capability, they should not be ashamed of stating their location if they are doing genuine business, but anyway, they know the exact reason of hiding their location.
Is there anyone who knows a genuine site to work for?
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 25, 09, 07:58PM
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Tonny: though i don't doubt my capability
As I've said to many others, your English is definitely decent for holding conversations, but is far too poor for you to be writing professionally.Tonny: Is there anyone who knows a genuine site to work for?
No legitimate site will hire you until your grammar and word usage improves--it means hard work and study for you, if you really want to pursue this.
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Oct 26, 09, 12:04PM
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Well, am an ESL though did my degree in US. I know i have a lot to do to improve my english, but better grammar a lot does not qualify one to be a writer. Pheelyks, consider not all disciplines that command perfect english, like Maths, chemistry and physics, they don't necessarily need one to have good command in language but perfect knowledge on what you are doing.
I'd still appreciate if you let me know those sites.
Thanks
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 26, 09, 12:15PM
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Tonny: consider not all disciplines that command perfect english, like Maths, chemistry and physics, they don't necessarily need one to have good command in language but perfect knowledge on what you are doing.
This is the same thing a lot of other ESl writers who can't construct a decent sentence say. When it comes to laboratory work and solving equations, you're right. But when it comes to writing papers, proper grammar IS essential, no matter what the topic is. How many chemistry experiments have you completed as an academic writer?
Writing is about communicating ideas; yes, you have to know the idea you are communicating fairly well, but it is vastly more important that you can communicate it well. I get As on papers that are complete b*llsh*t because I know how to write. It's that simple.
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Oct 26, 09, 02:20PM
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Tonny: Well, am an ESL though did my degree in US. I know i have a lot to do to improve my english, but better grammar a lot does not qualify one to be a writer. Pheelyks, consider not all disciplines that command perfect english, like Maths, chemistry and physics, they don't necessarily need one to have good command in language but perfect knowledge on what you are doing.
Tonny, I have no beef with you; but your argument is wrong. Let me quote what pheelyks just said:
pheelyks: Writing is about communicating ideas; yes, you have to know the idea you are communicating fairly well, but it is vastly more important that you can communicate it well.
Pheelys said it perfectly! The burden of communication is on the person delivering the message. If you cannot write properly, how can you deliver the message? I doesn't matter what subject it is you're writing about. It's how you construct your words so that the message is clear.
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Oct 27, 09, 04:08AM
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I understand your points my friends, everything is worth practice. I argue it this way, we were all born without knowing how to utter any word, but through practice, each one of us learned a certain language, so if i practice and dedicate all my efforts in learning proper english, am sure i'd be better even more than some NES.
I do write even for native speakers but even though my english is not first class, am able to compile ideas and put them down perfectly. Asianwriter, i understand you clearly. Pheelyks, you are absolutely right.
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 27, 09, 12:19PM
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Tonny: so if i practice and dedicate all my efforts in learning proper english, am sure i'd be better even more than some NES.
Absolutely. This was my point--you need more study and practice before you will ever be hired by legitimate companies to write academic papers in English.Tonny: even though my english is not first class, am able to compile ideas and put them down perfectly |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Oct 27, 09, 01:35PM
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Tonny: I do write even for native speakers but even though my english is not first class, am able to compile ideas and put them down perfectly.
Perfectly? Are you kidding me? I can't read four consecutive words in any of your posts without being smacked in the face with an error.
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I am completely fed up
Postby fantasy4real » Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:36 pm
I am a new writer with academicexperts. But, I must categorically state that I am completely fed up with the bidding and order allocation process. I picked my first order on the 15th of June this year and worked on four orders that month and then in July I was assigned two orders and one order in August. What is quite frustrating is that after uploading my last order on the 5th of August I have not been assigned any single order since then, though I have been bidding for orders which would have been over two hundred now. Please I would like other writers to share their opinion and experience on this as I am totally frustrated. I have complained to support about it and I must really commend them on their timely response and they have assured me that there be a great flow of orders in the hot season. I would also like the management of this forum to look into this, my ID is A3150. Thanks for your attention
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