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Sep 19, 08, 02:31AM
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WritersBeware: Why is it that the well-known, American companies that truly hire only American writers have virtually no online complaints about plagiarism, while EssayRelief.com (Pakistan), MasterPapers.com (Ukraine), EssayWriters.net/BestEssays.com (Ukraine) that hire almost entirely ESL writers outside of the United States have a constant flow of such complaints?
Do you have enough empirical data to back that up? I'd gladly provide the statistical analysis for free. :p The problem with you is that everytime someone who bought from an offshore company complains about what he got, you immediately accept his story as authentic, but when students complain against the sites that you call legit, you always assume that they're just hired goons doing a hatchet job.
WritersBeware: There's a HUGE difference between "writing competence" and "professional writing."
Let me revise my question then:
Do you think that ndungu, dearbats, and all the other ESL writers who post here are not capable of writing professionally for American consumers?
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| WritersBeware |
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Sep 19, 08, 03:06AM
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EW_writer: Do you have enough empirical data to back that up?
The data speaks for itself. Check this forum. Check online for other sources of complaints.
EW_writer: Do you think that ndungu, dearbats, and all the other ESL writers who post here are not capable of writing professionally for American consumers?
If their writing contains grammatical errors and other mistakes that are common to ESL writers in the essay industry, then my answer is an emphatic "Yes." That is not an opinion. That is a fact. When one accepts money for a professional service, one damn well better be prepared--and have the necessary skills--to provide that service professionally and as-described.
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Edited by: dearbats Sep 19, 08, 11:06AM
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EW_writer: Do you think that ndungu, dearbats, and all the other ESL writers who post here are not capable of writing professionally for American consumers?
WritersBeware: ...........my answer is an emphatic "Yes."
The "emphatic Yes" comes from someone who has no idea of the satisfied clientele being catered to.
If you'd only rid yourself of the prejudices, you'd be able to see clearly that people who You judge and consider professionally unfit to write, are extremely successful in their professional writing careers.
Repeat orders from the same consumers are proof of the professional services being delivered to a vast clientele, time and again.
Which particular community of "American consumers" is being discussed here?
Those who pride themselves in being American and place orders with companies which hire ESL writers? (I'm sure many of the consumers now Know that these companies hire ESL writers).
Why then do they keep placing their orders with the same company and keep requesting the same writers who had worked on their earlier projects?
The bottom line is that as long as consumers (of any nationality) continue to place orders and repeat orders, like it or not, professional ESL writers will continue to flourish.
If American companies pride themselves in providing optimal quality papers to clients, they should lower their rates, so that they can be accessible to the Entire community of consumers, rather than only a select few who have the required money for the exorbitant services.
It's a demand and supply game. If American companies increase their supply with the rising demands of the writing industry, with reduced prices, I'm sure WB will have lesser work to do here :)
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Sep 19, 08, 02:06PM
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dearbats: If you'd only rid yourself of the prejudices
What a pathetic accusation. Tell me--against which race(s) am I "prejudice"?
I can speak and write in Spanish. I could probably write a legible paper in Spanish. Does that qualify me to be a PROFESSIONAL writer in Spanish? No. If I were to claim to be a "professional" writer in the Spanish language and take money from Spanish consumers for a "professional" writing service in the Spanish language, I would be both a liar and an INCOMPETENT, "professional" writer in the Spanish language. In your eyes, this stance makes me "prejudice" against myself.
By the way, there are "ESL mistakes" in all of your posts, and I have no doubt whatsoever that similar errors exist in the "professional" product that you deliver to PAYING customers.
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Edited by: dearbats Sep 19, 08, 06:57PM
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WritersBeware: Tell me--against which race(s) am I "prejudice"?
I did not once mention that you have "prejudices" against any "race(s)".
What I did imply is that you have set prejudices against those who You do not consider competent or professional enough to write in English.
WritersBeware: By the way, there are "ESL mistakes" in all of your posts
How would you justify the Top Grades for the numerous consumers I write for, Each time? Why is it that the professors of Graduate American schools who check the papers Fail to notice these mistakes and give such good grades to the many clients whom I help, and as long as my "PAYING customers" have no issues with the quality of work, I shall continue to work professionally.
WritersBeware: By the way, there are "ESL mistakes" in all of your posts
I would love to take classes from you to correct my grammatical mistakes, if you do agree to accept me as an online student of yours :).
(I mean it!). I believe in being an eternal learner.........
You may e-mail me at dearbk@yahoo.com or provide me with your e-mail address so that I can contact you.........
Thanks and Regards......
Dearbats.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 19, 08, 07:34PM
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dearbats: What I did imply is that you have set prejudices against those who You do not consider competent or professional enough to write in English.
It's not a consideration. It's a fact. There are inherent flaws in your writing, which you obviously do not even recognize because English is not your first language.
dearbats: How would you justify the Top Grades for the numerous consumers I write for
If you know that your consumers are turning in YOUR work for academic credit, then you are enabling/perpetuating academic fraud and should be ashamed.
dearbats: Why is it that the professors of Graduate American schools who check the papers Fail to notice these mistakes
Presuming that you are stating the truth, the professors are incompetent and failing the educational system by leading students to believe that second-rate work earns first-rate spoils in the real world.
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Edited by: dearbats Sep 19, 08, 11:00PM
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WritersBeware: It's not a consideration. It's a fact. There are inherent flaws in your writing, which you obviously do not even recognize because English is not your first language.
Fine
WritersBeware: If you know that your consumers are turning in YOUR work for academic credit, then you are enabling/perpetuating academic fraud and should be ashamed.
Why should I be ashamed? ..........YOU should launch national programs to make the American consumers aware of the shame!
Like I wrote earlier, it's a demand and supply chain..........America's attitude to some of the third world countries is more than shameful and is condemned by the entire global commnity......yet, America doesn't stop!
The point I'm trying to make here is that even if you and I shout, yell and scream regarding the unethical nature of certain issues, there will be supply, as long as there is demand!
So, rather than wasting energy on things which are not likely to change, you should concentrate on having an online training academy for ESL writers......believe me..you'll never run out of business :)
WritersBeware: There are inherent flaws in your writing, which you obviously do not even recognize because English is not your first language.
dearbats: I would love to take classes from you to correct my grammatical mistakes, if you do agree to accept me as an online student of yours :). (I mean it!). You may e-mail me at dearbk@yahoo.com or provide me with your e-mail address so that I can contact you......... Thanks and Regards...... Dearbats. |
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Sep 22, 08, 04:24AM
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Hi friends,
There seems some people are being eaten up by superiority. If you have anything you find not working the right way, go a head and campaign against. By classify some people among the least qualified to write professional English papers, if i may ask these guy called writersbeware to stop writing things that you have evidence. How many papers have you seen me writing? what is the level of my education? you nothing man, remember the empty drum makes the loudest nuisance noise. It seems you have nothing constructive you can think of, stop wasting your time posting irrelevant article, get on track be on topic, no one is interested to learn from you, you might be among the parasites we are talking about yet you pretend to be part of us.
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Sep 22, 08, 04:31AM
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BY the way you professor of English Pr writersbeware, you pretend to be knowing much, what profitable thing have you done with your English? stop wasting this space, establish English institutions to train writers, and may be you are a failure, beside having perfect English what else can you boast of?
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Sep 22, 08, 08:20AM
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And for the students who may wish to be assisted with their essays and are looking for writers from these site, its ok but do it with great caution, get in to transaction once you are sure you have the genuine writer.
Thank you
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Sep 22, 08, 08:23AM
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dearbats, don't waste your productive time arguing with some one cannot even recognize your capability, thumbs up
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 22, 08, 12:26PM
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ndungu: Hi friends, There seems some people are being eaten up by superiority. If you have anything you find not working the right way, go a head and campaign against. By classify some people among the least qualified to write professional English papers, if i may ask these guy called writersbeware to stop writing things that you have evidence. How many papers have you seen me writing? what is the level of my education? you nothing man, remember the empty drum makes the loudest nuisance noise. It seems you have nothing constructive you can think of, stop wasting your time posting irrelevant article, get on track be on topic, no one is interested to learn from you, you might be among the parasites we are talking about yet you pretend to be part of us.
You want EVIDENCE that you are completely unqualified to write professionally in the English language? Try reading your own posts!
What's quite SAD is that you actually believe that you are a good writer. Stop ruining the reputation of REAL writers. You're a joke.
As far as being a "parasite," I've been here longer than ANY of you, so go screw yourself.
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Edited by: ndungu Sep 23, 08, 02:22AM
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writersbeware, you've been here for long, what help have you offered to writers and students. You are proud of nothing.
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Sep 23, 08, 11:53AM
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ndungu: writersbeware, you've been here for long, what help have you offered to writers and students. You are proud of nothing.
I uncover the scams of frauds like you, which helps countless consumers.
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Sep 24, 08, 01:07AM
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would you mind to give any notable evidence that am involving myself in a scam?
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Sep 24, 08, 01:10AM
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There are many different types of "fraud," my friend. The fact that your ESL grammar, spelling, punctuation, and word use are TERRIBLE, yet you falsely lead American consumers to believe that you are a PROFESSIONAL writer in the English language means that you are a FRAUD in the most literal sense of the word.
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Sep 24, 08, 06:57AM
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I noticed you criticize all ESLs, are the Americans the only people who require this service? you must be an American with a high sense of superiority stop critics and look for solution.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Sep 24, 08, 12:35PM
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ndungu: I noticed you criticize all ESLs
I have done the exact opposite, champ! Learn how to read before making false accusations! (This is yet another reason why UNQUALIFIED, ESL writers should not work for American clients--you can't understand the nuances of simple English.)
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Jan 7, 11, 09:44AM
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I feel you. Will pass the word around.
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