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Apr 24, 07, 02:33PM
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Joined: Apr 19, 07 Threads: 144 Posts: 8,391
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Almost anything's possible, I suppose, but I'd bet on my statements above any day of the week.
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| nom_de_plume |
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Apr 24, 07, 02:43PM
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Joined: Apr 23, 07 Posts: 50
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Quoting: WritersBeware, Post #199 At no time did I belittle France or the French. defensive stance, reminds me of someone. Reading comprehension. Nonsense? simply because you can't understand French drama.
Quoting: WritersBeware, Post #199 I told you to take YOUR nonsense elsewhere. Unfortunately, you didn't heed my request. and who are you to tell me what to do?! This is a public forum and any member can post his free thoughts. Your argumentum ad bacculum does not work.
Quoting: WritersBeware, Post #199 goes well beyond the level of "hearsay," Ignorantia! Research and read the law because to those knowledgeable your insistence calls for apathy.
Quoting: WritersBeware, Post #199 my friend sorry you terribly fall so short of what I define as friend.
Quoting: WritersBeware, Post #199 you do not write for a living or have anything at all to do with essaywriters.net, ah! reading comprehension brush up.
Quoting: WritersBeware, Post #199 somehow find the deep desire to spend hours researchign the Internet and other forums in hot pursuit of quoted material to use against every essaywriters.net detractor who has posted in this thread. One, how would you know my deep desire LOL! Two, hours to spend ahhh! are you not the agent of the other forum. You have been posting links to that forum time and again. Three, relativity--maybe with you you spend hours to research. Go and try to reasearch on hearsay.
Quoting: WritersBeware, Post #199 against every essaywriters.net detractor That is incriminating!! Four, you have tagged her as an essaywriter.net detractor. Calling on Essaywriters--there is your admission in plain view. 'against' Five, and thanks for doing it for me--the evidence of the post is incriminating against workfromhomemom. Now, how would workfromhomemom feel -if she gets upset that means you lost a team member and if she welcomes the idea, then that establishes confederation--or maybe conspiracy?
Quoting: WritersBeware, Post #199 personal enrichment I don't need to be enriched, believe me LOL. And enriching to destroy my integrity--not my style contrary to some people here.
Quoting: WritersBeware, Post #199 essaywriters.net to PAY writers, like you, to take the time to do exactly what you are doing now. Essaywriters pay good writers to write essays but to post here I dont think so. I surely am not paid for opposing filthy insinuations like yours. Keep hiding behind your handle for safety from lawsuits. Such cowardice!sniff, sniffer. You are so fixated on pay and money of people who say something true and good about the essay sites under attack here. What is your interest here . . . you resurfaced after one's disappearance. Maybe continuing on the dastardly demolition job left? Again what is your interest? I do not see typos in your post, please you are forgetting your intentional pattern. No need to show your fangs. Try to send PM to your team now--call on them. I wont be here anymore to lecture you on comprehension, French etc. OR maybe the reason why you find it difficult to comprehend is the language I use??? Shall I write in French, Norsk, Italian, Spanish, German?? Do not address me in your posts--it really is not worth talking TO you. It stinks way out here. Such a waste of my time. Ciao!!
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| essayer |
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Apr 24, 07, 03:25PM
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[Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:35:14 +0300 From: "Essay Writers" <info@essaywriters.net> Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book Add Mobile Alert Yahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by gmail.com. Learn more To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Account termination Dear xxxxxxx,
EssayWriters.net has terminated your account with the company in accordance with the following paragraph of the company policy:
"To keep loyal to EssayWriters.net, never compromise it by any means available and strictly adhere to all of the terms and conditions mentioned above and on the website. The violation of the above mentioned will result into immediate termination of employment with no right for remuneration and the account resumption."
You will receive all of your dues in next three days the latest, regardless the payroll date.
Best regards,
EssayWriters.net HR Dept]
dear beth,
just to inform you that i'm still unpaid. i know it really pays to be very patient with essaywriters.net when it comes to payments. it's well over "three days latest" and i'm still waiting.
regards,
essayer (you know me)
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| WritersBeware |
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Apr 24, 07, 03:33PM
| #204 |
Joined: Apr 19, 07 Threads: 144 Posts: 8,391
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Quoting: nom_de_plume, Post #202 You have been posting links to that forum time and again. Oh boy. I must have been sleep typing because I do nto recall posting links to a forum.
I mean, look at the bitterness and hatred in yoru posts. That does not come from someone who is not directly attached to essaywriters.net.
Rat--do you smell what I smell?
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Apr 24, 07, 06:29PM
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YEAH.... the g/f made meatloaf tonight!!!!! Like I said BW, it does seem fishy... but, I couldn't say for sure one way or the other.
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Apr 24, 07, 07:42PM
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Joined: Dec 28, 06 Posts: 127
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hey workfromhomemom, have you noticed how true voices here are being muffled by loooooooong, nonsensical .................................. rubbish!
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| workfromhomemom |
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Apr 24, 07, 11:20PM
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Joined: Mar 22, 07 Posts: 40
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Quoting: nom_de_plume, Post #197 Quoting: workfromhomemom, Post #180 How would you know that you hold the same sentiments as your "fellow writers"? How would you know that they too are "deeply saddened, etc." by the posts of individual writers here? And how would you know that they hold the same sentiments as yours? I don't see the majority here except for a handful. I don't see public complaints of the majority except your litany.
Go back to the post and read what I said. Did I suggest in any way that my observations, complaints, and sentiments were held by the majority? I did nothing like that BUT YOU DID in your post which made me react and provide you with that response. Notice that what I posted here were my own experiences with the company, I did not speak on behalf of other displeased writers. you ought to re-read your own post and note how you assumed that those so-called hundreds of writers maintain the same regard and position as you regarding essaywriters.
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| workfromhomemom |
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Apr 24, 07, 11:29PM
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Joined: Mar 22, 07 Posts: 40
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Quoting: nom_de_plume, Post #197 Quoting: workfromhomemom, Post #180 Most writers at essaywriters don't know a thing about each other so how can you speak on their behalf -- the "hundreds" of other writers working for the company? I know a three or four others working there the above is based on your experience—very limited experience.
and how would you know how much experience I really have? you took my remark out of context. it is true that freelance writers at essaywriters do not know each other because there is no way for freelancers to communicate with each other at essaywriters. freelancers may only know other freelancers unless they are friends who sign up for the same company.
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| workfromhomemom |
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Apr 24, 07, 11:42PM
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Joined: Mar 22, 07 Posts: 40
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Quoting: nom_de_plume, Post #197 You registered as member of Essayfraud on March 14, 2007 and stated in your message there that you started writing for essaywriters just last Feb. So tell me, where did you get such audacity to continue taking orders, getting paid and at the same time with your alleged continuous destruction of the business reputation and integrity of essaywriters in a period of almost 2 months.
What makes you think that I still take orders at essaywriters? HAVE YOU BEEN GIVEN AUTHORITY TO MONITOR DO THAT? lol. I'm waiting for my payments, honey. That is all, nothing more, nothing less. Just because I check my account at essaywriters from time to time does not necessarily mean that I am still taking orders for them. I check the payment schedules and any messages that may be left by support reps there. Aren't all account holders at essaywriters encouraged to check their accounts from time to time?
Continuous destruction of business reputation and integrity? What I posted here are comments, my personal views of how they run the business, and my experiences while writing for them. I even gave a few suggestions that may be useful for them to improve their company. You call that destructive of a company's reputation and integrity?
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| workfromhomemom |
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Apr 24, 07, 11:48PM
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Joined: Mar 22, 07 Posts: 40
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Quoting: nom_de_plume, Post #197 More than a month now from that time and despite your alleged reason that writing for essaywriters was a waste of time and resources, you continued to write, continued to receive compensation and continued 'talking behind the company's back'? You call that ethical and upright?
okay admin, pardon me for repeating what i said earlier but just to make the pluma understand -- I NO LONGER WRITE FOR ESSAYWRITERS. I AM JUST WAITING FOR MY DUES.
you ought to prove this allegation. otherwise, you have no business accusing me of nonsense.
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| workfromhomemom |
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Apr 24, 07, 11:51PM
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Joined: Mar 22, 07 Posts: 40
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Quoting: nom_de_plume, Post #197 Quoting: workfromhomemom, Post #180 BUT A HUNDRED?! LOL Unless you're the employer... so clearly, you admit that it is a hundred! Sorry I do not have the privilege of being the employer. If I did I would never have accepted you in the company's fold.
I made no such admission plume. Read it again. lol.
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| workfromhomemom |
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Apr 24, 07, 11:57PM
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Joined: Mar 22, 07 Posts: 40
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Quoting: nom_de_plume, Post #197 'weed out unhappy and disgruntled writers and for cause' reads different from what you misquoted
ah yes, missed that. thank you for pointing that out. I welcome comments, corrections, criticisms,suggestions, etc. Of course, feel free to cancel my views. I believe keeping an open mind usually outweighs having a bigoted one.
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| workfromhomemom |
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Apr 25, 07, 12:03AM
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Quoting: nom_de_plume, Post #197 Quoting: workfromhomemom, Post #181 You've seen these changes recently had it not been for the posts here, honey. I think that prior to most of the complaints posted here, essaywriters wasn't doing anything :-) Remark based purely on your self serving speculations. Do not patronize yourself. You cannot make me believe that these changes were due to your complaints. If it had been, shouldn't essaywriters be indebted to you for your constructive (sic) comments and therefore retain you in its fold?
The above remark was based on a friend's and my own observations of the company. He signed up for them in 2006 and from then on observed how such a business worked. I was not patronizing myself neither did I state that the changes at essaywriters were made because of MY COMPLAINTS. You have a comprehension problem. Re-read the post a second or third time, maybe you'll understand the message of the post by then.
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| workfromhomemom |
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Apr 25, 07, 12:08AM
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Joined: Mar 22, 07 Posts: 40
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Quoting: nom_de_plume, Post #197 Quoting: workfromhomemom, Post #189 you're a writer for essaywriters and you see the number of available orders posted there everyday. If they had hundreds of writers, how come the orders posted there don't get taken? One essayscam member who signed up recently, Smandy, said it herself that most of the orders don't get taken at all. You destroy your own premise. hundreds of orders but have you monitored each and every single order of hundreds—everyday? Why volunteer another? Are you not a writer there who may have monitored this every single day, every single order so that from your own observations, you can draw your own inference? How many times have you logged on a particular day, how long, how long after you logged in again. Writers take orders at random. Your conclusion does not have a leg to stand on.
Believe whatever you want to believe. You see those pages yourself and you know exactly what I meant by the majority of orders not being taken. And excuse me for namedropping, I did not have the time to look for the thread she posted in and quote her.
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| workfromhomemom |
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Apr 25, 07, 12:16AM
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Quoting: nom_de_plume, Post #197 Quoting: workfromhomemom, Post #189 nom_de_plume's post made it seem as though exchanges between her and other "content & loyal" writers take place regularly. she may know a few writers maybe, but i doubt she knows hundreds.
Quoting: nom_de_plume, Post #197 How do you know when you have only stayed with essaywriters for about 2 months? Doubt all you can that seems to be one of the two functions of your brain. The other being, striking down ideas and experiences of others as fallacy simply because these fail to fit it in your right and left lobe of the brain.
And you're a champion only at slinging insults which seems to be the only function of your brain. Your reply to my remark only shows that you can't support your claim about the so-called hundreds of writers who're pleased with essaywriters' business strategy.
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| workfromhomemom |
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Apr 25, 07, 12:23AM
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Quoting: nom_de_plume, Post #197 http://www.essayfraud.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=275 "There are many calls for papers over the Internet and maybe you can check them out if interested. Try "a cup of comfort" website. they have calls for papers till december this year. if your paper is chosen, you get paid a certain amount plus get published. I suppose that is better than working for EssayWriters.net where you are less likely to get paid for your efforts." And you call the above ethical? Upright? Professionalism anyone? Such treachery. 'Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools that have not wit enough to be honest.' You register as member, post a general complaint then wait in the dark for a prey and once you detect fear of not being paid by essaywriters, you recommend another site while you continue to take orders and receive compensation from essaywriters.
why don't you check out the website yourself and you may be interested too? At least when you write a piece for them, authorship is your own and you get published too. I don't see anything wrong with that post. You have very morbid thoughts.
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| workfromhomemom |
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Apr 25, 07, 01:22AM
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Joined: Mar 22, 07 Posts: 40
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Quoting: nom_de_plume, Post #202 That is incriminating!! Four, you have tagged her as an essaywriter.net detractor. Calling on Essaywriters--there is your admission in plain view. 'against' Five, and thanks for doing it for me--the evidence of the post is incriminating against workfromhomemom. Now, how would workfromhomemom feel -if she gets upset that means you lost a team member and if she welcomes the idea, then that establishes confederation--or maybe conspiracy?
By WB's use of the word "detractor" she probably meant "critic / reviewer" because you are clearly an essaywriters supporter and I no longer am. WritersBeware and I are simply posters here just like the others and we have no connection, relationship, or affiliation whatsoever with each other. Whatever you think of me are just theories in that neurotic brain of yours.
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| essayer |
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Apr 25, 07, 03:44AM
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Joined: Dec 28, 06 Posts: 127
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Quoting: rat289, Post #195 Yeah, you better be careful lex... I picture them holding knee-jerk, closed door planning sessions this very second... the wagons are being circled. hehehehe you talking about yourself, that French sounding newbie with the amazingly very familiar legalistic verbiage and.......
how are you lex? you're so "lucky" you've been paid. and what's more, despite some identifiable and a few challenging posts, your account has not yet been terminated. :)
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Apr 25, 07, 10:33AM
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Quoting: essayer, Post #218 how are you lex? you're so "lucky" you've been paid. and what's more, despite some identifiable and a few challenging posts, your account has not yet been terminated. :)
lucky? naah.. dunno why.. i just try to get along with them.. sometimes.. im just trying to make a living under "harsh" conditions haha..
but i do brace for the eventuality that i'll be get kicked out.. i hope not.. let's see.. if they do, they'll see another nagasaki..
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| essayer |
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Apr 26, 07, 12:26AM
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yeah, you really got me lex.
as for the "account termination," i'm not really complaining because i've actually stopped writing for them some 6 or so weeks ago. (onedrfl, i did stop writing for essaywriters december, came back after a month and a half, and then later decided that the anxiety over delayed payments is too much for my frail mind).
however, i do expect to be paid for the last 2 orders i did. the last one on "Eating Disorders" got me another Very Satisfied customer survey rating so I should really more than deserve my last payroll earnings.
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Edited by: essayer Apr 26, 07, 01:54PM
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Joined: Dec 28, 06 Posts: 127
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i've got to post this. payment was indeed made through by essaywriters. i encountered some problem, however, through my own fault. the important thing is that payment was made.
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Apr 26, 07, 02:04PM
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Joined: Apr 19, 07 Threads: 144 Posts: 8,391
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What about the hundreds of writers who don't speak out like you?
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Apr 26, 07, 02:15PM
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Joined: Dec 28, 06 Posts: 127
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i'm not sure but being writers of academic essays, they surely know how to research in the internet. one way or the other, most of them can chance upon this site ultimately. if essaywriters fail to pay them, at least they'll have some idea what to do.
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Oct 4, 07, 07:47PM
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Joined: Jan 4, 07 Threads: 1 Posts: 13
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Essaywriters is a scammer. I used to defend this writing company but now no more. They are LIARS!!! They advertise on their website that the lowest compensation per page is $4 and up but shame on them because they only pay us $1 or $0.85 per page for regular basis and for urgent orders is only $3 (if they feel guilty, they may raise it to $4)... They stated that writers get as much as $16 but there is nothing truth with it. Yes, previously it happen but for these past months, they become lovers of money and never give what is due to their writers. The writers are the one who sacrifice so much and they should be compensated well. Their advertisements really attract freelance writers but don't be fooled with their scheme because the truth is, it is the opposite. There are many deductions and let me write it in a list.
1. They will deduct your earnings 50% to 75% if the client is not satisfied with your work. (It is okay if the customer rejects your work but the disgusting thing is when essaywriters deduct your earnings just because of that). 2. They will deduct your earnings even you will return taken orders early.
They, themselves, are the violators of their own rules. They don't have one word.
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| Fae77 |
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Oct 6, 07, 12:42PM
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Joined: Aug 14, 07 Threads: 1 Posts: 20
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Essay writers currently owes me 400$. They will not pay me, going on 3 days now. They keep making up excuses.
Look, anyone who essay writers will not or has not paid or payment was more than 24 hours late we are going to sue them. Contact me at dustinzgirl at gmail dot com
First step is to get everyone together.
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Oct 8, 07, 05:21PM
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Joined: Jul 2, 07 Threads: 27 Posts: 2,171
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Quoting: esther I used to defend this writing company but now no more. They are LIARS!!! They advertise on their website that the lowest compensation per page is $4 and up but shame on them because they only pay us $1 or $0.85 per page for regular basis and for urgent orders is only $3 (if they feel guilty, they may raise it to $4)...
I actually agree with esther on this one. >.< I've managed to still earn my keep due to some regulars but I must say that the pay for normal orders do suck in general during these times. >.<
Have you checked your order list, esther? I think dry season is... over. :D
Quoting: Fae77 Essay writers currently owes me 400$. They will not pay me, going on 3 days now. They keep making up excuses.
That's funny... they paid me. >.<
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Edited by: pious Oct 8, 07, 06:43PM
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The following tells the tale of 2 Esthers, an Essaywriters.net writer. More accurately, it tells the evolution of Esther from an apologist to an avowed denouncer of Essaywriters.net's "fraud" within a 9-month period.
Quoting: esther
esther Jan 4, 07, 02:56AM | Post #174 I've been working for the company (essaywriters) for almost a year now and am glad that they didn't fail in sending my money or withhold it.... Though some people say that essaywriters is a fraud but in some other ways, essaywriters has helped me in augmenting my income which is a great help for my family. =)
Jan 5, 07, 06:07PM | Post #184 Pineapple, you request again from the essaywriters and be open to them. I am sure they will listen to you.. =)
Feb 7, 07, 05:58AM | Post #282 Does everybody already receive his/her payments from essaywriters?
Oct 3, 07, 07:06PM Reply Quote | Post #2 Essaywriters.net has no heart!!!... They are LIARS!!! They advertise on net that their lowest compensation rate is $4/page and you will get more (like $16) if it is urgent but it is the other way around... They only post those rates to attract writers and that is CHEATING! They actually pay the writers $1 or $0.85/page for orders to be worked for 2 to 7 days and $2 or $4 utmost for urgent orders... So to all writers who want to apply in essaywriters.net, DON'T BELIEVE on their advertisements. They are liars and arrogant... Believe me, I was once their writer.
Oct 4, 07, 07:47PM Reply Quote | Post #224 Essaywriters is a scammer. I used to defend this writing company but now no more. They are LIARS!!! They advertise on their website that the lowest compensation per page is $4 and up but shame on them because they only pay us $1 or $0.85 per page for regular basis and for urgent orders is only $3 (if they feel guilty, they may raise it to $4)....
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| WritersBeware |
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Oct 9, 07, 01:25AM
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Oct 11, 07, 03:30PM
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They closed the thread where we went on and on and on about their practices. It's people that don't believe us and continue to work for them that keep them in business. They did pay me but it took so long and so much effort to get the money that it is not worth it.
They are frauds and if people read these forums and still work for them they deserve whatever they get or don't get.
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Oct 12, 07, 07:05PM
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Quoting: onedrfl if people read these forums and still work for them they deserve whatever they get or don't get.
Amen to that. ^_^
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Oct 12, 07, 11:10PM
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Quoting: EW_writer Quoting: onedrfl if people read these forums and still work for them they deserve whatever they get or don't get. Amen to that. ^_^
Are you saying that those cheated by Essaywriters.net deserve the 'no payment" and grossly-lower-than-advertised minimum?
Of course, you are. You are probably gloating at how effective your propaganda posts have proved in neutralizing the legitimate fraud complaints made by authentic EW writers. Your EWwwww superiors must have given you a fat bonus for being a credibly-sounding poster plant. After all, you do deserve a pat in the back for your part in the conspiracy to trick writers into joining or staying with the EW pool of new author-victims.
Only those who take no part in the deception of presenting Essaywriters.net as an honest, paying haven for writers can share the reproving view recently made by Onedrfl.
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Oct 13, 07, 12:12AM
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I would have to disagree that EW_writer has fooled anyone. I have given him so many beatdowns that he is now making laughable excuses as to why he does not address the EVIDENCE in my posts.
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Oct 13, 07, 12:58AM
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That's part of the deception, WB. He detracts with other issues to evade the issues of fraud.
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Oct 13, 07, 01:19AM
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Yeah, you're right. He is a criminal, after all.
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Oct 13, 07, 06:43AM
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Joined: Jul 2, 07 Threads: 27 Posts: 2,171
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*Toto look... talking monkeys!* :D
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Oct 13, 07, 07:22AM
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WB, look... what simian talk! Who let it out of the zoo? :?)
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Oct 13, 07, 09:55AM
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Hi
I have been a victim of essaywriters.net. It is easy to fall victim of such companies. I had been refused payment for nearly 6 months on account of plagiarism . Only one paper had been checked and I couldnot even understand it .They claimed I hadn't given correct references even though the lines mentioned were my own and not taken from anywhere. I asked about payment and they said after all were checked. After months of waiting and seeing fines imposed on the ones checked still no payments. Supposedly all had to be checked. It is ridiuculous. After mnay months only two papers had plagirsm and the other 10 were ok but I had to wait 8 months for payment. this company definately tries not to pay its writers .The plagiarism check is not fair as it detects anything . Then the sytem imposes fines of late submission or low quality as well which are things to beware of as low quality can be just an unsatisfied customer .
Tracy
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Oct 13, 07, 09:58AM
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Hi
I think we need to get together to sort them out
Tracy
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Oct 15, 07, 09:26PM
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Joined: Dec 28, 06 Posts: 127
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fae77, are you still unpaid by essaywriters.net?
how about you, tracy? i don't entirely get your post. are you still waiting for your pay afer all these months?
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| workfromhomemom |
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Oct 18, 07, 12:56AM
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Joined: Mar 22, 07 Posts: 40
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hi all. i got paid half only. got tired of waiting.
whoever's claiming that they're really earning big at essaywriters.net must be in cahoots with them.
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