Stop Writing for essaywriters.net

You've posted your viscious opinions as fact without any evidence. I showed that in the other thread. You've even said very bad things about this forum without any proof. So you should stop slinging mud at others.

I guess we can both have opinions and we'll let others decide who is genuine.

I feel like a ping pong ball... back n forth from this thread to the other... as I said in the other thread... you posted that I was making a claim that this site was up to no good... I cleared up your reading comprehension issues in the other thread... If you want... I'm willing to open an online reading comprehension class... you could have a free lesson... up to you... :)

tell us about your "resources" rat. who's funding your research and expertise to put down those who make "false claims" against competitor sites? the competitor of the competitor?

I had a reply to this drafted... after considering it, I have changed my mind and will not post it.

I believe the average reader can see that my statements have been fair, balanced and truthful. I'm sorry if the facts don't agree with the opinions of those who have been propagating false and misleading statements. Even IF I were being sponsored by the companies that have been unjustly bashed here, it still doesn't change the facts... that most, if not all, of the statements made about them have been either partially false or completely false. Furthermore, I'm confident that the average person can see the attempts to frame me as a company rep are nothing more than last ditch efforts to discredit me and the truth.

From what I can see in reading the slobberknocker between you and Amy1978 is that you make excuse after excuse to justify essaywriters's false advertising.

As I told her time and time again... there is a difference between the opinion of false advertising and legal false advertising... she was using, with one exception (which I ceded), adverts from different companies. I was focused on essaywriters and she was trying to bring a host of other companies into the debate. AS I told her... my only concern and the only company I investigated was essay writers... and as such her claims were false and misleading... as she ran out of steam she began claiming I was a shill and that is when I emphasized her prejudice and blatantly obvious bias and called into question her motives... so, until you can provide true evidence of actual false advertising (being a breach of advertising laws) the best you can say about essaywriters.net's advertising is that you THINK it's misleading or you FEEL it's misleading or it APPEARS to be misleading. Saying it IS false advertising is a false statement on your part. I hate to split hairs but when you accuse a company or person of breaking the law you have to be able to support it per the legal definition of the law and as I have pointed out to her on more than a dozen times... she had no support in her claims.

However, you continue to form your opinions and publish them here... it only goes to support the need for true and accurate information as not everybody is capable of understanding the written English language contained in these threads.

OK, so what you are saying is that Amy1978's evidence is false because she was trying to tie together sites that you believe are difefrent companies? You are referring to bestessays.com and superiorpapers.com right?

company because of who owns them is disconcerting and again... makes those doing it look suspicious. The question was "if you write for essaywriters will you get paid" and the debate... all three of them... answered that question.

*Her claims were that they didn't have a LLC on file in VA... which they did.
*That their hiring adverts were false... which they weren't as far as the law was concerned.
*That their adverts to consumer where false and misleading - which the one was but was also corrected in the contents of the site and again... not a violation of the law.
*That they were owned by a company that has other proven scam companies - which isn't relevant to the discussion.

There are all sort of companies around the world that are reputable companies and are owned by parent companies that do own others that aren't so reputable... Look into the parent companies of most your large corporations and you will find at least one "shady" company owned by some sort of associate of the reputable company.

Her evidence was false because it was. She stated there was NO LLC and there is. She posted adverts of this other company which were irrelevant... I don't know a thing about superiorpapers, I didn't look into them and I wasn't arguing about their legitimacy... my only concern was the company I looked into -essaywriters.net.

Essaywriters.net owns superiorpapers and bestessays. All three sites are the same company with the same management. You can ask any of their writers. So how can you so adamently try to discredit Amy's evidence when you admittedly "don't know a thing about superiorpapers"?

Ok, I'm going to start charging for definitions for you.... What is the relevance of who owns what? A rep claimed that if you write for essaywriters you will get paid. She called the woman a liar. I thought I'd look into it and I did... I was arguing essaywriters not any other company... in the end it comes down to this very simple point... if you write for essaywriters will you get paid... and that question was answered... she kept saying they were a sham... which I more than adequately proved false. It's the difference between ethical behavior and unethical behavior. You simply cannot make claims about companies without merit... they have the legal right to legitimacy granted to them through the state that issues their LLC or other corporate papers. If you think they are a sham then you need to gather your evidence and present it to the states Attorney General's office and they will investigate IF your evidence is legit.

Just as I have presented EVIDENCE of false or misleading actions taken by domestic essay companies by using groups like this to falsely accuse otherwise legit companies of wrong doing so they can scare away potential clients of those companies... and THAT is a legal definition of a sham. One has been successfully prosecuted already... if you search hard enough you will find the news story... I did enough research for Amy last week; I won't do the same for you. Based on every amount of "evidence" posted in this site that I have seen, NO SUCH EVIDENCE EXSITS to even warrant a state to investigate! I'm sorry to break it to you Amy... or whoever you are... but you have no legal ground to stand on... you need to start holding yourself to the same legal standard that you're holding these companies to... and if you can't... then you need to keep your mouth shut... that simple.

You keep calling me "Amy" to make it seem that only one person disagrees with you.


What have I said that makes it OK for you to suggest that I have broken the law? It seems that you're treading very close to libel.

Because to date, you have acted exactly as her in the manner you argue your point and the trickory you try to employ to discredit me... the only thing that is missing, and at times this makes me think you are someone else, are the lack of racist, hateful and mean-spirited comments she'd make. You need to understand that I am an unbiased person as far as any of these companies go... I'm only seeking and exposing the truth when false or misleading statements are made. As for arguing so much with you and her... well, you're a writer... have you ever backed down from a war of words with anyone before? Believe me, it isn't personal... I truly have nothing against you, just your actions in that one post... You had another reply in a post today that I completely agreed with. If it makes you feel better I'll post my agreement with you but I didn't see the need, you don't strike me as a person with confidence issues.

If you're not her, great. My only issue with you is the way and manner you posted that allegation against that one site. You seem intelligent which suggests you know the source of that information is less than credible and yet you posted the information in a manner that implied "this is real and true"... I'm not saying it is true and I'm not saying it isn't true... all I'm saying is to either post it as rumor or post it with FACTS that support the claim and a discussion board from another site isn't proof. A more responsible way to have titled that post would've been to say "I found this on (whatever site it was), they claim so and so does this". That way you are in no way coming across as trying to present something factual.

** to all: please forgive my redundancy issues today... I'm working on a treatment while I'm trying to debate this with WritersBeware and my thoughts aren't completely on topic which is why from time to time I tend to repeat topic points in the same post.

I wondered if you were one and the same person too. Simply because you arrived as she vanished and you seem awfully keen to defend her - posting 27 times in only two days of being a member.

I hope that you aren't the same person. I was hoping that the forum might become more a more civilized place for discussion :)

YOu think 27 posts in 2 days is a lot? I;ve posted hundreds of times in a single day in other places. That's enough to accuse me of being someone else?

I said "I wondered if you were one and the same person too". Where is my accusation?

Without wishing to be unduly personal, you do appear more than a little paranoid in this thread.

I;m paranoid because I'm defending myself against false assertions about my personali identity? OK...

You've made a mega major slip....

The average reader can now categorically see that you are a well-funded arm of a demolition scheme out to aggressively carry out a counter-propaganda to all the damages wrought by the successive and protracted complaints by essayscam forum posters against the writing site(s) of your financier(s).

LOL. You would think that. Why? You are paranoid! Are you one of the ones that are targeted or will be targeted? Why do you care? If you're nobody in the scheme of things you would think that you would want these "scam-prevention" sites to be fair and balanced so that members could trust the content. Why wouldn't you want it that way? Would that make it harder to bash legal competition? Why are you so concerned with what I'm doing or who I'm doing it for, if I'm doing it for someone at all... content never lies...

I have said both good and bad about essaywriters.net - True.
I have investigated claims by members that above company was a sham -True.
I have concluded through evidence that they are not a sham - True.
I have also said that I don't like the way they do business - True.
I have also said that my feelings have no bearing on whether they're legal or not - True.

How, in any way, shape or form have I championed the cause for my "financier (s)". If I were as you claim wouldn't I have better access to information to assist me in defending them? Would all of my claims not be positive toward them? WOULDN'T I HAVE ALSO LOOKED INTO OTHER COMPANIES RELATED TO ESSAYWRITERS.NET SO I COULD "CLEAR" THEM TOO? You make no sense with your claims... again, taking something out of context to help mislead the reader into thinking you are right and I am wrong... and you wonder why some of us think you are Amy!

I asked a simple thing of you; post opinion as opinion, facts as facts and rumors as rumors. A person with no vested interest would've said "oh, I understand how what I posted could be misread, I'll do better next time..." and moved on. Instead you keep arguing with me. Amy lost the last one and odds are you'll lose this one too... it's just a matter of time... and every post you make that comes at me from a different angle makes me look more right about you and your motives than what they make me look wrong... because my subject matter and theme have been the same and straight forward all along. A "mega major slip"? I think not... but you're free to twist it any way you need to... I'll be sure to correct you every time you step out of line with my quotes.

Oh, sorry essayer, I didn't look at the name of who posted that... uh.. all those "you's" were directed at you... pardon my brain-fart.

i miss beth. well at least, she's who she says she is.

Yeah... uh, I can write... duh. um... please toss in "weren't" in place of "were".... now if you'll excuse me I've got something to write on the chalkboard 500 times.

Yeah, I was surprised she didn't jump in more often last week. BETH, WHERE ARE YOU?

it's been two days. what's the status there with you? as for me, no payment transfer made yet.

If essaywriters.net is consistently paying you late or not at all, report them to the US Department of Labor compliance center at http://www.dol.gov/cgi-bin/compliance_contactus.asp . Let the USDOL take care of them.

That is an excellent piece of advice WB! I sincerly mean that. All who felt they have been taken advantage of or "scammed" should do this... that's what their there for and the legit way to handle it... they have data bases you can search too if you have questions about companies... the more complaints, the larger the list.

You can also file a complaint against any company that you feel has wronged you in the state that the company holds its LLC or other corporate fillings in. It will take a little work hunting down which state they are filed in but when you do, a good place to start is with that state's State Department... they'll point you in the right direction... There's also the BBB (Better Business Bureau) if you're a consumer. I know the nature of your dealings with these companies is moraly questionable and against the rules of universities but you should be able to word your complaint without stating that you were buying essay papers.

Correspondences with support reps have been deleted in my account too, probably to prevent us writers from using these against EssayWriters in the future. They deleted all of their posts including those of the customers' in the messaging system and all that was left were my messages in triplicates! This action makes them all the more a very suspicious entity described in essayscam and essayfraud.





So someone here is trying to figure out who among essaywriters' writers are posting on these boards, complaining, and exposing their annoying business practices and thus causing them really bad publicity... how else could they tell who QWS and essayer were and dub them "disloyal" without getting them into a trap to get their identities?

Hey Beth, how about shedding light on this issue?

I, too, am objective. I did get the bulk of my earnings the day after I was terminated. There is only a small balance to be transferred on Tuesday. If I don't receive it, I will forge ahead with the suit. If I do receive it, I won't be able to. The funny thing is, it would have been easier for them to pay me correctly the first two times. I didn't use any kind of nickname when posting because I wasn't hiding anything. What I wrote was true. They didn't pay me at all during my first earnings period, and they did not pay me correctly during the second earnings period. I don't care about the termination because I had been burned twice, and I wasn't about to write another word for them. Believe me, Beth did not disappear. Someone is still monitoring this site. If you plan to continue with essaywriters.net, be careful not to give away info that might identify you. As for me, well, I have two more class periods, then I graduate. My husband and I decided we will still take that vacation, but we'll use a little from our savings. This experience with essaywriters.net was definitely not worth the trouble.

I don't know how hard they are working to identify the writers, but it would have taken little more than a third grade education to identify me. I identifed Margie as the rep who was "trying to help me." One call to Margie about a whiner whose name started with the letter Q, and that's that. As well, the e-mail address I gave you guys to contact me is the same e-mail address the company uses to contact me. As I said, I hadn't written for them since I suspected I wouldn't be fairly paid, and I wouldn't have ever written for them again, so my termination was laughable. The point is that there was no need to disguise myself, so i didn't. As for rat289, my university has a policy against buying papers, and I have never done that. It is not illegal, however, for me to assist in writing papers for other people, edit, or write for companies. For example, I wrote a paper about improving the first aid plan for a city. I have a bachelor's degree in English, and more that a decade of experience in medicine. I was highly qualified to write the paper. The city official was very pleased with it. There was nothing illegal, or immoral, about it.

This isn't meant to be mean or anything QWS but... you ever have one of those pet-peeve things... every time you see it you go nutty? Just drives you up a tree? I'm sure I have a thing or two that bugs you... but after reading your reply I noticed somethig...

"It is not illegal, however, for me to assist in writing papers for other people, edit, or write for companies."

Should be:

"It is not illegal; however, for me to assist in writing papers for other people, edit, or write for companies."

I'm sorry... it just drives me crazy... please don't take offense.

If I understand you correctly the paper you wrote was for someone not attending school. You're right; there wouldn't be anything wrong with that.

QWS' version is the correct one. There are no independent clauses involved. There's only one thought. It's the same scenario if she were to write, "However, it is not illegal for me to assist in writing papers for other people, edit, or write for companies."

Dear Writers!

This is Beth again, an HR representative from the EssayWriters.net Team.

I was carefully following your comments regarding our company's work. I was also helping those writers who turned to me directly with their inquiries. I was doing my best to resolve the conflict of interests between some writers and the EssayWriters.net Team.

And still I can see that some writers continue to post their negative comments on this forum even after their cases were individually investigated and their particular issues were successfully resolved. These writers seem to feel comfortable speaking out negatively about the EssayWriters.net Team and at the same time working for the Company. The EssayWriters.net however does not force any writer to cooperate with the Company. Every single writer enjoys the freedom of a flexible schedule and a personal choice to work or quit the Company.

We, the EssayWriters.net Team, have recently put a lot of effort into significantly improving the system of cooperation with writers. First, we have offered our writers to speak their minds in the survey. The results of this survey were promptly analyzed. New staff was welcome to work out a new cooperation policy with our writers. As a result, we have updated our System and Writing Guide to assist our new and present writers with their writing, researching and time managing. We have introduced many new options in the system of taking projects and now it is the most efficient system online, and our writers can choose quickly what they like best. We have created a new system of professional upgrade and financial recognition through bonuses. We have improved the free access to paid libraries online to help our writers with effective topical research. Our instant messaging system is also improved, and every writer is treated individually. All the disputable cases, especially regarding salary, quality and plagiarism issues, are considered individually. Seems like this is not considered by the writers posting here, though it was made for their convenience.

I really wish that our most prominent and loyal writers also have find in their busy writing schedules to visit this forum and prove my words. Recently, we have received thank-you messages from our writers, who appreciate both system and communication improvements in the Company.

I also provided my contact information. Every writer is welcome to address me directly with his/her issue. I promise that we will take an individual approach to everyone.

We have also worked out our Terms and Conditions for every new writer who registers with us. We have done so to avoid possible future misunderstanding. We seek transparent and direct communication with our writers. In these Terms and Conditions we preserve the right to terminate the cooperation with the writer who is no longer eligible or who frequently violates the Company's quality policy.

This forum can be really a nice place for communication among writers, who come here to share their experiences, writing tips, etc. To our great disappointment some writers use this forum to compromise the reputation of our Company. We welcome these writers to speak to us directly.

We are hopeful that the writers who post their defamatory comments here do not cooperate with the Company at the moment. Believe me it is really very unpleasant to realize that some of these writers can be working with us and speaking nasty things about us behind our backs.

We are always striving to take a fair side in any conflict between the customer and the writer, as well as between the writer and the Company. We are ready to guide our writers, to help those writers who are less experienced to grow with the Company.
We have no intention to delete your correspondence or any other signs of your activity in the system. Please write me an e-mail, give me the order numbers where the correspondence was "hidden" from you and we'll investigate the case.

We are living in the world where everybody can speak his/her mind.
I have spoken mine on behalf of the Company.
I wish professional success and creative inspiration to every writer who worked, works, and will work with us. It is really a pleasure to cooperate with each of you on the global fast-pacing level.

My best regards,
Beth
bethhalf@gmail.com
www.EssayWriters.net

I agree with WB. The original version is correct.

Really? I was always taught that "however" must always be preceded by a semicolon and followed by a comma. Oh well, I suppose perfect people like me make mistakes too... hehehehehe

When "however" is used as a conjunctive adverb, and it appears exactly at that point where two independent clauses come together (or are separated, depending on your point of view), it will invariably be accompanied by a semicolon. There are many other occasions, however, (and this is a good case in point) where this is not true, where the word "however" is a parenthetical element in the middle of a clause and does not deserve or want a semicolon.

Thanks Dylan. Like I said, I remember from school the teacher saying that but then again when I was in school "aint" wasn't a word yet... my recall could be flawed... I stand corrected.

this is not a grammar class.. we are supposed to catch essay scammers here..

Well you can't catch'em without good grammar! Didn't you know that?