| WRT |
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Jan 20, 10, 08:57AM
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Josh: college drop out or a failure in "English native countries". |
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Edited by: Josh Jan 20, 10, 09:01AM
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Pheelyks i can bet you openly to write anything i.e on my field Economics and Statistics and compare our research papers and if you get above an E i will congratulate you because i am sure the argument in your content will be in question and very cheap. Disclosing your status is posting your academic credentials to clients to know your level of education, but hiding under the pretext of native' yet you have low level of education is simple cheating. It costs nothing to post your academic credentials as they can be checked from the records of the institutions.Lying and cheating is in many forms and i think you have perfected one form of it.
These legitimate companies you claim about are the masters of practicing that habit i mentioned above. I cant write in any topic for instance, but i can argue in my field which i have experience and i don't know if you can really argue for any technical discusion
WRT
If you have emphasized on that issue ,then that will be a genuine argument. But how would you know the level of education of that person and he/she is writing English fluently and has registered his company in US or UK.Wouldn't you say that the person is genuine and has a legitimate company?
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| WRT |
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Jan 20, 10, 09:01AM
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Josh: Blame the scam sites for exploiting and misusing the labour and sometimes encouraging uneducated folks from those countries, but i don't think it will be evil to get an educated guy in developing world who can write better and cheaper, its economics and business.
Isn't that what we are doing? If a writer is qualified (education, language and research skills), should he/she get paid less than would a similarly qualified American writer? Should uneducated people be hired just because they are American or British? That's what the scam sites do and that is what many here oppose.
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Jan 20, 10, 09:03AM
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QuelleSurprise: Yanks WB and Phleeks and the Aussie WRT
How can you say that they are from America (yanks)? WB is a Russian immigrant in the USA.
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Jan 20, 10, 09:03AM
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WRT - those with your awful level of English should not be writing essays for anyone either, LOSER! Your Australian English is a joke, as is WB's retarded English level. EFL writers are FAR better than illiterates like you. TWERP!
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Jan 20, 10, 09:07AM
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WRT
Of course it will be exploitation and misuse if a site pays a person $2 or $4 a page and he has sacrificed everything to ensure the paper is of quality. That is exploitation and would not support it also and would condemn those scam sites exploiting people.
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| WRT |
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Jan 20, 10, 09:10AM
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Josh: But how would you know the level of education of that person and he/she is writing English fluently and has registered his company in US or UK.Wouldn't you say that the person is genuine and has a legitimate company? Josh: Pheelyks i can bet you openly to write anything i.e on my field Economics and Statistics and compare our research papers and if you get above an E i will congratulate you because i am sure the argument in your content will be in question and very cheap.
If I understand you correctly, you want Pheelyks to scan and upload a copy of his academic degrees here? Right here on this forum? Actually, I agree and believe that he should also post his Social Security number and home address. How else would we know that he is American?
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| WRT |
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Jan 20, 10, 09:11AM
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Josh: Of course it will be exploitation and misuse if a site pays a person $2 or $4 a page and he has sacrificed everything to ensure the paper is of quality. |
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| WRT |
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Jan 20, 10, 09:12AM
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QuelleSurprise: WRT - those with your awful level of English should not be writing essays for anyone either, LOSER! Your Australian English is a joke, as is WB's retarded English level. EFL writers are FAR better than illiterates like you. |
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Jan 20, 10, 09:13AM
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WRT: If I understand you correctly, you want Pheelyks to scan and upload a copy of his academic degrees here? Right here on this forum? Actually, I agree and believe that he should also post his Social Security number and home address. How else would we know that he is American?
Terrible English articulation of a college drop-out Aussie!!! Can anybody please explain what this inarticulate idiot is trying to say?
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| WRT |
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Jan 20, 10, 09:17AM
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First of all, I have heard that Australians (with one exception) are very nice. Thank you for the compliment.
Secondly, your even attempting to understand my posts is ridiculous. I speak English, you speak gibberish - two different languages.
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Jan 20, 10, 09:18AM
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Idiots (you know who you are), I have to run along ... enjoy your gang bang.
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Edited by: Josh Jan 20, 10, 09:24AM
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I think you understood it very clearly maybe its because i was making some reference from some folks around on this site..I am only trying to give you an example of a person(maybe an owner of a site/company) coming from UK,US e.t.c and comments on that site fluently with a well structured native English but who may likely be a low level educated fellow? I am pretty sure you and others maybe will say that person' company is legitimate because he/she is coming from US ,UK and has even the countries address.How would you know the person is a low level educated fellow? That is a tendency which has been seen and practiced by people.
I think customers/client need to have that surety the person is native and most important is education, Education comes first. Yes of course for purpose of legitimacy you need to post your credentials to your site it does not mean to scan them, but you can give your names and details of which institution you had been and then people can know for sure your academic status.
I am not saying guys should earn $6-$7 they should be rewarded genuinely according to standard payment made to any other person anywhere and not exploited.
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| pheelyks |
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Jan 20, 10, 10:26AM
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Josh, no one is saying that hiring unqualified American or British natives to write papers is a legitimate way to run an essay business. This would be just as bad as hiring an unqualified ESL writer (like yourself) for the same purpose.
Whether or not I can prove my qualifications here (I am not posting my real name on this forum), I CAN write sentences in English that impart information clearly and concisely, with correct grammar, word usage, and syntax. This is something you have been unable to do so far, and this is why you are not qualified to work in this industry.
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| WRT |
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Jan 20, 10, 02:01PM
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Josh: I am pretty sure you and others maybe will say that person' company is legitimate because he/she is coming from US ,UK and has even the countries address.How would you know the person is a low level educated fellow?
I've deciphered the code and think I know what you mean.
1) An owner's nationality does not make a company legitimate or illegitimate. Just because a person is British/American/Australian does not mean that his/her company is good. Some are rotten to the core, have no place in this industry and have been named and discussed here. Similarly, just because a company is Ukrainian in origin does not mean that it is a scam site. There are several other factors to consider. In my opinion, you are deliberately simplifying the issue.
2) Legitimate companies do not hire writers on the basis of nationality. Education, language skills and experience are primary considerations. How would we know that an applicant really has the qualifications he/she claims? Because they are required to submit proof.
Why should it be okay for companies to lie about who they are? Honesty generates trust and respect.
Should companies be allowed to fine writers? As far as I am concerned, this is a form of theft. It is assumed that companies screen applicants prior to hiring them and entrusting them with a customer's work. It is assumed that companies do not hire writers who plagiarise, are incompetent or produce poor quality work. Let us suppose an incompetent slipped through their screening process - fines are not the solution to plagiarism and shoddy work, immediate termination is.
From where I'm standing, I also do not think it okay to pay professional academic writers $7 per page (I'm not even going to go into the $2-6 range).
Basically, legitimate companies, irrespective of nationality, play it fair, are transparent, and treat both writers and customers with respect.
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