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Jan 17, 11, 05:56AM
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STUDENTS BEWARE
Don't order from Primethesis.com and any other website owned by Pavel Kucheruk from Ukraine. They operate another website called 4writers.net where they normally channel the orders for writing.They don't pay their writers. Follow the link below and you will get the truth of the matter: www.essayscam.org/forum/14/writers-net-payment-delays-1450
Don't Order until they pay us otherwise you will be receiving plagiarized work! I will inform you when to order, that is once we see our money in our accounts.
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| pheelyks |
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Jan 17, 11, 10:33AM
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Idaho: STUDENTS BEWARE Don't order from Primethesis.com and any other website owned by Pavel Kucheruk from Ukraine. They operate another website called 4writers.net where they normally channel the orders for writing.They don't pay their writers. Follow the link below and you will get the truth of the matter: www.essayscam.org/forum/14/writers-net-payment-delays-1450Don't Order until they pay us otherwise you will be receiving plagiarized work! I will inform you when to order, that is once we see our money in our accounts.
Students Beware: if you order from any of this family of websites, you'll end up with a writer like Idaho--or someone even worse.
These companies cheat their writers by not paying them and they cheat their customers by hiring bad writers. Know who you're ordering from before you lay out any money.
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Edited by: smirk Jan 24, 11, 03:46AM
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Idaho: I will inform you when to order, that is once we see our money in our accounts.
don't think this gonna work as you plan it to and i also question your research/analytical skills.
if the company doesn't pay you, post the unpaid papers on the Internet and forget about it. if customers stumble upon the works they paid for and make a chargeback, so be it, if not - you wasted your time.
what are you doing there? working for free and hoping for revenge?
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| 2MockingBird |
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Jan 30, 11, 05:59AM
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pheelyks: Students Beware: if you order from any of this family of websites, you'll end up with a writer like Idaho--or someone even worse.
I agree that Idaho is obviously a poor writer but do you honesty believe such wannabes can be weeded out? Quite a good number of customers of some of these sites are international students and in fact request writers to make intentional mistakes. In such a case, a writer like you would not suffice. I think writers like Idaho are important and will continue to thrive in spite of opposition from old timers like you.
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| pheelyks |
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Jan 30, 11, 11:09AM
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2MockingBird: Quite a good number of customers of some of these sites are international students and in fact request writers to make intentional mistakes.
WHic is fine, as long as these companies/writers advertise themselves as people who make lots of ESL mistakes. Surprisingly, they don't. Instead, they try to pass themselves off as expert writers in the English language, and this make them liars and scammers, and leaves many of their customers feeling cheated.
2MockingBird: I think writers like Idaho are important and will continue to thrive in spite of opposition from old timers like you.
I think you're trying desperately to justify your pathetic business practices and defend your own lack of English skills. As for me being an "old timer," I've only been in this industry for three years; I'm very good at what I do, which you understandably find threatening, but it has everything to do with knowledge and skill and nothing to do with time spent in the industry.
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Jan 31, 11, 02:59AM
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2MockingBird: Quite a good number of customers of some of these sites are international students and in fact request writers to make intentional mistakes.
idaho's sanity is questionable.
what i got from his posts is that he's not being paid by his employer and pays in kind by submitting plagiarized works in attempt to tarnish their reputation, which looks like a hard task as they don't seem to have any.
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Jan 31, 11, 07:10AM
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smirk: idaho's sanity is questionable. what i got from his posts is that he's not being paid by his employer and pays in kind by submitting plagiarized works in attempt to tarnish their reputation, which looks like a hard task as they don't seem to have any.
I can't blame Idaho, he is desperate but i also doubt whether he can get even by plagiarizing. In as much as i defend ESL writers, i feel that myopic unethical site operators are choking the industry with their despicable business practices. It doesn't make sense to defraud writers a few dollars while you need them tomorrow to write and get more money.
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Jan 31, 11, 08:07AM
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2MockingBird: I can't blame Idaho, h
you can't blame idaho for providing the unlucky students, who did pay their dues, with plagiarized papers and helping the website owners pocket more money?
i can
"only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and i'm not sure about the former" a. einstein
the place of all esl writers in the writing industry will take a long post to describe, but what is daylight clear "there should be no room for idaho"
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| pheelyks |
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Jan 31, 11, 11:26PM
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2MockingBird: are choking the industry
They're not doing anything to the industry as a whole. "The industry" is getting by just fine.
2MockingBird: It doesn't make sense to defraud writers a few dollars while you need them tomorrow to write and get more money.
These companies don't need the same writers tomorrow, because there is an endless supply of people that are willing to try to cobble together plagiarized essays for $2 a page.
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Edited by: 2MockingBird Feb 1, 11, 02:11AM
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pheelyks: essays for $2 a page |
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Edited by: smirk Feb 1, 11, 02:35AM
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2MockingBird: It would appear then that anything below $2.5 doesn't make sense even for an ESL writer.
as you can see from this thread there are people ready to provide the papers at no cost per page and i'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to find some people eager to write for $1 or $0.7 per page
however, the issue of dumping has always been of interest to me.
perhaps, someone sticking to this strategy will enlighten me on this account.
what makes people, capable to produce something solid, keep working at ridiculous rates?
i'm sure the amount they make will not suffice to survive even on cuba.
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Feb 1, 11, 08:57AM
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EssayWriters have good script and does things automatically. I have account with them too, but when I saw offer for $3 per page I started doing my own advertising. You can get more than $3, definitely.
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Feb 1, 11, 10:11AM
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Moore: when I saw offer for $3 per page I started doing my own advertising
What kind of advertising?
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| pheelyks |
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Feb 1, 11, 10:39AM
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2MockingBird: It would appear then that anything below $2.5 doesn't make sense even for an ESL writer.
Wow. That changes things completely. If writers are insisting on making at least $3/page, they must produce really high quality work.
Moore: EssayWriters have good script and does things automatically. I have account with them too, but when I saw offer for $3 per page I started doing my own advertising. You can get more than $3, definitely.
The fact that you charge people anything for academic writing in English is horrifying.
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Edited by: smirk Feb 2, 11, 03:42AM
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Moore: I started doing my own advertising.
did it go any further than manually spamming the boards?
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