| somewriter |
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Jun 4, 10, 02:29PM
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Just wondering. I'm definitely not planning on buying a paper, but am a capable writer in need of some extra cash. However, I don't want to write a paper and then not get paid for it. I'm not asking anyone to tell me which sites they've had luck writing for, since apparently we're not supposed to mention the names of many of the businesses (and that's just fishy).
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| somewriter |
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Jun 4, 10, 06:12PM
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Come on, anybody? Surely wb hasn't scared everyone away from open discussion.
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 4, 10, 06:39PM
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If you wanted help, you shouldn't have attacked me first, even after I went out of my way to be polite to you.
People are free to discuss whatever they like, as long as those discussions abide by the rules of the forum. Reviews and recommendations are not allowed. Get that through your thick skull.
Don't like it?
Don't "understand" it?
Seems "fishy"?
Make your own forum.
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| somewriter |
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Jun 4, 10, 06:43PM
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Actually, I only mentioned you here because you'd already been attacking me in other forums, as well as others. From what I've seen, you jump into every discussion and attack everyone.
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| somewriter |
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Jun 4, 10, 07:02PM
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Please tell me exactly where it says that reviews and recommendations are not allowed. I'm not saying you're lying, I just want to see it.
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| somewriter |
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Jun 4, 10, 07:59PM
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From www.essayscam.org:
"Is providing positive feedback allowed?
While advertising or promoting any particular service or professional writer is not allowed, providing genuine positive feedback is always welcome, so long as it is not the only goal of the poster and is not an "advertisement in disguise." Because it can be tricky at times to determine if any given message is an advertisement or not, the final decision belongs to moderators."
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 4, 10, 08:24PM
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somewriter: Actually, I only mentioned you here because you'd already been attacking me in other forums, as well as others. From what I've seen, you jump into every discussion and attack everyone.
LIAR. You posted the following rude and inflammatory remarks immediately after I directed an exceedingly polite post to you.
somewriter: 1. Neither I nor anyone else had mentioned anything about the rules of the forum in this thread, and so far as I can tell nobody in this thread has broken any rules, so the remark that I don't have to participate if I don't like the rules is not only rude, but irrelevant. 2. I know what the name of the site is, and as I said in my previous post, consumers are not the only ones trying to avoid the SCAMS. The writers can get SCAMMED too. I guess I should have capitalized SCAM in my first post so you'd get the point.3. You already mentioned the freelance writing sites, and now you do it again, which shows you just don't get the point.
By the way, you never commented on your embarrassingly ignorant and rude comments to me for mentioning "freelance writing" sites in relation to "would-be essay writers." Why is that? Can't admit that you were wrong and—as a direct result—insulted me for no reason after trying to help you?
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Jun 4, 10, 08:33PM
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you don't help anyone.
Join yahoo group educatedessayists for educated talking and comparing notes. It is better to work together, than argue with crazy people with a nutty agenda.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 4, 10, 08:35PM
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give_me_a_break: you don't help anyone.
Sorry, moron, but my thread history proves you to be an ignorant ass.
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Jun 4, 10, 08:41PM
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You have to prove others are ignorant, wow. Nice and important job you have here.
Maybe you should try a little less conspiracy theory and live in the real world. Bringing down essay companies can't be you're only job. I saw all your wacko posts and felt compelled to bring you down a few notches.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 4, 10, 08:46PM
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give_me_a_break: Maybe you should try a little less conspiracy theory and live in the real world. Bringing down essay companies can't be you're only job. I saw all your wacko posts and felt compelled to bring you down a few notches.
Your habit of copying-and-pasting your own drivel in every post gives you away, idiot. I wasn't the first member to notice, either.
Go create another Yahoo group, loser.
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Jun 4, 10, 08:51PM
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Great, see ya!
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| somewriter |
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Jun 5, 10, 03:42AM
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WritersBeware: somewriter: 1. Neither I nor anyone else had mentioned anything about the rules of the forum in this thread, and so far as I can tell nobody in this thread has broken any rules, so the remark that I don't have to participate if I don't like the rules is not only rude, but irrelevant. 2. I know what the name of the site is, and as I said in my previous post, consumers are not the only ones trying to avoid the SCAMS. The writers can get SCAMMED too. I guess I should have capitalized SCAM in my first post so you'd get the point. 3. You already mentioned the freelance writing sites, and now you do it again, which shows you just don't get the point. By the way, you never commented on your embarrassingly ignorant and rude comments to me for mentioning "freelance writing" sites in relation to "would-be essay writers." Why is that? Can't admit that you were wrong and—as a direct result—insulted me for no reason after trying to help you?
My point about capitalizing the word "scam" was that you emphasized the name of the site was essay scams, not essaysuggest, essaypromote, etc. My point was that we understand that this site is about scams, and that we were talking about avoiding scams. Let's try to turn these into more fruitful discussions.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 5, 10, 04:03AM
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somewriter: Let's try to turn these into more fruitful discussions.
If that's what you wanted, you should have maintained the initial respect that I clearly gave to you:
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 5, 10, 04:06AM
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somewriter: and that we were talking about avoiding scams
EXACTLY! Don't you get it? In response to your requests for help, I began typing about the FREELANCE WRITING sites that are scams, and you insisted that "freelance writing" sites are not relevant to "would-be essay writers." You then proceeded to degrade me for referencing "freelance writing" sites multiple times. Do you need me to quote you?
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Edited by: somewriter Jun 5, 10, 04:14AM
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WritersBeware: EXACTLY! Don't you get it? In response to your requests for help, I began typing about the FREELANCE WRITING sites that are scams, and you insisted that "freelance writing" sites are not relevant to "would-be essay writers." You then proceeded to degrade me for referencing "freelance writing" sites multiple times. Do you need me to quote you?
No, it's ok, I'll quote you, from the other thread:
WritersBeware: Somewriter, with all due respect, if you don't like the rules of the forum, nobody is forcing you to participate. The name of this site is essaySCAM.org, not essaySUGGEST.org, essayPROMOTE.org, essayADVERTS.org, essaySTORE.org, etc. You do know that there are about five milliion other sites that specialize in freelance writing jobs and information, right?
It seemed to me you were telling me to leave this site and go to the "five million other sites that special in freelance writing jobs and information," while I was wanting to know which of these sites were scammers. That's why it seemed irrelevant when you brought it up the first time, and why I thought you didn't get my point when you brought it up a second time. If I was wrong, then please specify, what exactly were you saying about these freelance writing sites.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 5, 10, 04:27AM
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somewriter: If I was wrong, then please specify, what exactly were you saying about these freelance writing sites.
You were asking whether you should try to work for best[]essays. All applications to the Ukrainian fraudsters behind best[]essays filter to their freelance writing site, essay[]writers, though which they actually hire freelance writers. Try doing a search in Google for "essay[]writers" (minus the brackets) and have fun reading the literally hundreds of complaints from defrauded writers since 2003.
Also, try searching for "essay[]writers" (minus the brackets) in this forum. You'll come across several in-depth investigations that I have posted.
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Jun 5, 10, 04:45AM
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The crooks at best[]essays/essay[]writers have cronies in this forum (stu4, for example), one or more of whom would certainly have contacted you, posing as a "satisfied, fellow writer." If not for my warnings in this forum about both the sites and their shillers, I have little doubt that you would have joined and gotten screwed.
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Edited by: rustyironchains Jun 5, 10, 07:49AM
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the voice of justice here only knew about EW's scam practices by listening in on writers on these forums...
but this isn't about bashing EW. it's about recommending legit sites.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 5, 10, 01:00PM
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rustyironchains: the voice of justice here only knew about EW's scam practices by listening in on writers on these forums...
Rusty, go F yourself. You're a real piece of sh*t. Once again, you are cowardly accusing me of being an "outsider," which has absolutely no basis in reality. Now, let's see if you can backup your accusation (we both know you can't, but it's fun to prove you a lying idiot nonetheless):
Can you please show me where online any of the in-depth information and evidence from my investigations existed before I published it here?
Can you please tell me who else personally visited the fraudsters' now-proven fake addresses across the country and filmed them with video cameras?
Who posted records of the owners' criminal convictions for misrepresentation and resulting jail sentences?
Who else uncovered their scam to resell customers' papers despite prominently advertising otherwise?
I could go on and on . . . .
What selfless, valuable information have you posted to prevent people from being swindled? NOTHING. ZIP. NADA. ZILCH.
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Jun 5, 10, 02:01PM
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as far as I know, WB, most of the companies you crusade against are still in business. why don't you direct your raving challenges at some of them, and waste some more of your life away... ass.
to respond to the title of the thread, different companies treat writers in different ways. some have more orders than others. you should try to PM people, or use letters to represent the company names, because a lot of them get edited. I have worked for AR for
a while, and find them to be legit.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 5, 10, 02:05PM
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rustyironchains: as far as I know, WB, most of the companies you crusade against are still in business.
Funny—you are no longer claiming that "all" of the companies that I "crusade against" are still in business. Why is that, smartass? Facts, evidence, and legal records hit you in the face?
For the record, AR is one of the most notoriously fraudulent companies in the academic research industry, based in Ukraine (with fake addresses in the US, which I have already exposed as fake/non-existent via video evidence in this forum; never in a million years did those fraudsters think that I—or anyone else—would show up with a camera).
Now, Rusty will try to claim that AR is the best thing since sliced bread because he is AR's henchman. AR puts dirty money in his pockets to do exactly what it is that he is doing. However, Rusty has absolutely no defense against the vast amount of hard evidence that I can provide about AR's lies, misrepresentations, writer salary theft, and other downright illegal activities.
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Jun 5, 10, 04:52PM
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thanks for the attention, WB, but why don't you stop attacking newbies, and start reading thread titles? it's not all about you, you know.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 5, 10, 06:41PM
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rustyironchains: but why don't you stop attacking newbies
As usual, you make ignorant claims without knowing the facts.
I politely began to help, he/she claimed that my references to "freelance writing" sites have nothing to do with "would-be essay writers" (which couldn't possibly be any more incorrect), and then he/she proceeded to belittle me for doing so. Don't believe me? Read the damn thread.
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Jun 5, 10, 11:09PM
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Can you tone down your argumentative and divisive personality a tad? You're scaring off the newbies!
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Edited by: WritersBeware Jun 5, 10, 11:14PM
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FU. That better?
Funny—you promise to leave, yet you're still here. Why? You don't have the brains to compete with this venue, that's why. How's your Yahoo group coming along?
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Nov 21, 10, 11:36PM
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HAHAHA!!! Gotcha again. ^______^
Also, my original post did respond to the topic. I said:
@somewriter
My tip for you is to just pick a company and work on an order for them. If they pay you for that order, then work on a few more orders. Also, there are lots of useful information on this board regarding how well or poorly some companies treat their writers.
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Nov 22, 10, 12:17AM
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Can somebody please put this pathetic, psychotic bit*h out of her misery? The dumb wench is now responding to 5-month-old posts. It's quite disturbing.
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Edited by: EW_writer Nov 22, 10, 12:36AM
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WritersBeware: Can somebody please put this pathetic, psychotic bit*h out of her misery? The dumb wench is now responding to 5-month-old posts.
Nice try. ^_______^ For the full context of the post, people would have to see the list of deleted posts. But hey, here's the gist of it.
I just asked the mod to delete your repetitive post, and hey whaddaya know, they did. :p So please, keep on ignoring me HAHAHAHAHA!!!
Oh and btw, nice going with the bit about the post being 5-months old. Goes to show that you really CAN'T COUNT.
Date of the post: Nov 15, 2010
Geez... doesn't everyone learn how to use the calendar by the 2nd grade? Nyuknyuknyuk! :p
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Edited by: WritersBeware Nov 22, 10, 12:40AM
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When are you going to get it through your thick, fraudulent, crooked skull that nobody cares about the nonsense that you type?
For the record:
Lavinia: What [EW_writer] doesn't tell you is that his companies lie to their consumers by claiming to employ English and American writers, when in fact they do not. You can decide if you want to deal with that yourself.
EW_writer: That's not fair... I'm very open with that fact. I'm not American.. so there. ^_^
Margaret Marsot (aka, "EW_writer" and "johnny_outsmart"; yes, she does love her underscores in usernames) is a worthless piece of human trash who will engage in all forms of lies and deception—including impersonating a non-American, ESL writer for YEARS—that suits her needs at any particular time.
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Edited by: EW_writer Nov 22, 10, 12:44AM
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Hey mods, if WB can repost a post that you had already deleted, then everyone else should be free to do the same so here:
WritersBeware: I politely began to help,
WB's first post responding to somewriter:
WritersBeware: Somewriter, with all due respect, if you don't like the rules of the forum, nobody is forcing you to participate. The name of this site is essaySCAM.org, not essaySUGGEST.org, essayPROMOTE.org, essayADVERTS.org, essaySTORE.org, etc. You do know that there are about five milliion other sites that specialize in freelance writing jobs and information, right?
Errr... fyi, simply saying "with all due respect" and then telling someone to get lost doesn't really count as being polite... and it counts even far less as helping.
@somewriter
My tip for you is to just pick a company and work on an order for them. If they pay you for that order, then work on a few more orders. Also, there are lots of useful information on this board regarding how well or poorly some companies treat their writers.
Oh and WB, GREAT JOB IGNORING ME. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, YE? HAHAHA.
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Edited by: WritersBeware Nov 22, 10, 01:11AM
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EW_writer: Hey mods, if WB can repost a post that you had already deleted, then everyone else should be free to do the same
Sorry, but the mod only deleted my response to your garbage because it was in direct response to your smut and would have made little sense if left behind without your original smut.
Really—just f off, you pathetic, dried-up wench.
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Edited by: EW_writer Nov 22, 10, 02:45AM
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WritersBeware: Sorry, but the mod only deleted my response to your garbage
Wooohooo.. thank you for allowing me to make you look like a complete a** yet again! Haha... wow.. even now that I have reduced the time that I visit this forum considerably because of the heavy load of orders that I need to work on, I can still k*ck your a**.
Here you go, LOSER. I wasn't talking about your response to MY post. ^_^ I was talking about that footnote on rusty that you posted. It has been deleted from your message after I complained that if the mods allowed your sh*t on this forum, they should allow the truth that I put on my footnote about you. :p
You're just waaaay too easy, ya' big, dumb, ugly missy. :P
Oh and right.. you're doing a GRAND job of ignoring me. ROFLMAO!!!! ^_____________^
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Nov 22, 10, 11:31AM
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You are meaningless. Accept it and move on with your sad, sad life. I, on the other hand, will continue to post valuable, helpful information that hundreds of daily visitors appreciate.
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Nov 22, 10, 03:14PM
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WritersBeware: You are meaningless. Accept it and move on with your sad, sad life. I, on the other hand, will continue to post valuable, helpful information that hundreds of daily visitors appreciate.
HAHAHA.. is that all you have to say? Oh yea, that IS the play right?
You challenge me:
WritersBeware: The dumb wench is now responding to 5-month-old posts. It's quite disturbing.
I prove you wrong and put you down:
EW_writer: I wasn't talking about your response to MY post. ^_^ I was talking about that footnote on rusty that you posted. It has been deleted from your message after I complained that if the mods allowed your sh*t on this forum, they should allow the truth that I put on my footnote about you. :p
and you, in an attempt to just make it all go away, hopelessly resort to just posting more nonsense. :p
Now, should I rub it in? Should I ask you why you to admit that you did post that footnote? That you were WRONG as usual? :P Hahaha... Keep on ignoring me like you said you would, ok? (now would be a good time to do so, it would give you the perfect excuse not to answer this post)
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Nov 22, 10, 03:30PM
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Just realized how ignorant these admins here are....but i wont be insulting any.
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Nov 22, 10, 05:48PM
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Hey, Margaret, guess what! I don't care about anything that you type. I will continue to spit in your face and mock you at me leisure, while still posting incredibly helpful information for hundreds of daily visitors.
Have a great day, ya used-up, dried-up wench.
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Nov 22, 10, 05:49PM
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danabwao: Just realized how ignorant these admins here are....but i wont be insulting any.
I heard that you got attacked my a lion and then trampled by a rhino—in your backyard. Is that true?
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Nov 22, 10, 08:33PM
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EW_writer: You challenge me
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WritersBeware: Hey, Margaret, guess what! I don't care about anything that you type.
LOL!!! You're hilarious. ^___^ So you figured that simply ignoring me just won't work since EVERYONE will still see how much I humiliate you, so now you try to sneak in this lil' statement as some sort of saving grace:
WritersBeware: I will continue to spit in your face and mock you at me leisure,
Oh, and I'll assume that you were doing a Popeye impression, Agh-agh-agh-agh-agh...
EW_writer: Now, should I rub it in? Should I ask you why you to admit that you did post that footnote? That you were WRONG as usual? :P Hahaha... Keep on ignoring me like you said you would, ok? (now would be a good time to do so, it would give you the perfect excuse not to answer this post)
No answer? No surprise there. ^____________________^
Hahaha!
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