| Michah |
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Oct 20, 09, 03:52AM
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Hi Everyone,
I have just decided to start writing freelance due to a disability and not being able to return to work. I applied to Essaywriters.net when I found this forum. I had to do a short grammatical test and writing test. I was accepted this morning. I was really pleased, until I read this. Now I am really shirty!! Please, if someone can tell me WHICH websites are legit......I would REALLY appreciate it. Thank you for pointing out the fraud of this company. As a newbie, it probably would have taken me a while to work out that they were stalling me for payment.
Please point me in the right direction......
Kindest Regards,
Michah
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| rustyironchains |
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Oct 20, 09, 07:33AM
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why don't you try some work for them before you believe everything you read here? do a few $20 papers and see if they pay (they will). EW won't start ******* you until later on down the line, and if you don't know it when it happens, you deserve to stay. at this point, sure, quit, by all means. but before then, you can probably make a couple hundred bucks, maybe even a couple thou.
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| Fracturegang |
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Oct 20, 09, 10:53AM
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Michah: I have just decided to start writing freelance due to a disability
What type of disability? Physical or situational? Human experience is so painful.
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| AsianWriter |
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Oct 20, 09, 01:02PM
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Fracturegang: What type of disability? Physical or situational? Human experience is so painful.
Why do you need to know? Are you a doctor?
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| AsianWriter |
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Oct 20, 09, 01:31PM
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Michah: Please point me in the right direction......
I'm sorry, mate! It's against the TOU to give out those sites we consider legit. Bummer, I know; but rules are rules. Here are a few tips, though...
1. Scan the forum. You'll find many posts which should be able to point you in the right direction. I know that it can be a lot of work, but consider it your "due diligence".
2. Don't trust the PMs you'll be getting. Some of those sending you messages could be scammers themselves.
3. Trust your instincts. If it smells foul, it's probably rotten. Read everything you see in the site you're applying with, and you'll find that "scam" sites have a particular way of advertising themselves.
I hope these tips helped.
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| Michah |
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Oct 20, 09, 05:42PM
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Thanks Rustyironchains......
You have made a good and logical point......good exercise maybe?
Cheers,
Michah
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| Michah |
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Oct 20, 09, 05:48PM
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Hi Fracturegang....
My disability( I use the term disbility in reference to an occupational term; inability to work) involves my Endocrine System......which is infinitely complex......as are most disabilities, I'm sure....
You sound like you know the painful side ......take good care. Thanks for your question. And I agree, the human experience at times can be extremely painful. Makes me a better writer though, on the plus side.
Thanks for your input.
Michah
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| Michah |
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Oct 20, 09, 05:51PM
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Asianwriter,
Thank you for those tips! My apologies for not reading the forum rules......I was flustered at the time and wanted answers. I guess it involves intuition and layout, like you mentioned "smelling funny"(I think). Excellent. I have other options which I will try as well.
Thanks for taking the time to help me.....
Cheers,
Michah
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| Fracturegang |
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Oct 20, 09, 08:46PM
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AsianWriter: Why do you need to know? Are you a doctor?
Mad D*g!!!!
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| AsianWriter |
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Oct 21, 09, 05:04AM
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Fracturegang: Mad D*g!!!!
Did I say anything wrong?
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| WRT |
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Oct 21, 09, 08:52AM
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Fracturegang: Mad D*g!!!!
Prior to your being caught plagiarising, most here regarded you as a hilarious figure. Now I realise that you are just a shameless wannabe, with no sense of pride. If you really are a researcher, please research this topic: Self-Respect. Whilst doing so, please try to gain some.
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| Fracturegang |
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Edited by: Fracturegang Oct 21, 09, 10:48AM
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Yes I plagiarize but I did it to test a self-f******r like you. I wanted to know whether you always brag or not.
In one sense you were right. That was not my writing. But the man whose writing that was and that you edited a haughty manner can f***** you throughout your whole life.
If I reveal his name before all, again you will prove that you are really a Self-F******.
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 21, 09, 11:30AM
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What writing did Fracture plagiarize?
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| mnomn |
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Oct 21, 09, 12:55PM
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Look....rustyironchains' advice makes sense, in a way; but after working for them for over a year (with most rates as low as 2 o 3 $/page) and a thousand other issues all I can say to myself is - what was I thinking?? I needed the money badly, who else is to pay for tuition fees and so many other things, but I could've done anything else and not work for this horrendous company. I think that somewhere down the line you are going to be sorry for all the stress, time and effort you put in this job. Look for other companies, I'm telling you there are some which are far, far better and where you may actually be treated humanely. I'm speaking from experience, there is a tremendous difference between them and most others (can't speak for all, but I've tried a few and there's simply no comparison - it can't get any worse than essaywriters). And don't get elated for being chosen, I think they accept anyone who can speak English - the problem with them is that everything is automatic on their site - no genuine selections, no HR and, as a matter of fact, very little human involvement all together. The word "mill" has been used many times in relation to them - and it's oh so true. Now I got paid, especially in the beginning, but the fees they apply for anything are huge and the payments were ALWAYS late. By contrast, I work now for one company who pays almost immediately after you have sent the work. Essaywriters can be tempting, esp. since they give you access to any order on their site and you don't depend on the staff to assign work to you- but my advice is to think this over and try some other places also. You may be able to make some money with them, but you'll see it's not really worth it. Trust me there are companies who pay 5 times what they pay, have a great staff ect - in a word it's heaven compared to essaywriters.
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| mnomn |
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Oct 21, 09, 01:00PM
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I love these guys' "English":
"20 Oct 2009
Dear Writers,
In order to prevent misunderstandings we have provided changes into our previous news. Please review."
What in the world does the phrase "provided changes into our previous news" mean??
Poor Noam Chomsky would really have a hard time explaining this one with the aid of generative linguistics.
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| mnomn |
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Oct 21, 09, 01:03PM
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Also, have you noticed that all their announcements speak about new fines?
Please take into consideration that it is obligatory for all writers. Consistent reporting will be a good investment into your promotion and lead to compensation increase,while ignorance of reporting will lead to immediate fines(5% from order total and will increase if ignorance recurs). Please mind that providing false information on progress will lead to even bigger fines(starting 10% from order total and up).
Best regards,
Writers Dept.
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| mnomn |
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Oct 21, 09, 01:16PM
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Look through their site a bit: do you you like their English? the tone of their announcements (always threatening)? their "terms and agreement" (even more threatening)? Check their replies to you - you'll get so many automated, standard replies that you'll feel as if you were speaking to a robot. Good communication among all the parties involved is essential in this business: you won't get that here; they don't care about you, your work, your efforts and your needs, your time, your money and all that. It is simply not a healthy work environment. All they need is to use you like they use all their writers, there's no serious cooperation beyond that. Oh and btw, they will call you a thousand times when the deadline of an order is approaching - and for many other reasons as well. It really does not matter if it is 4 am or something like that. I'd say think it over really well and try other options before working for them.
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| mnomn |
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Edited by: mnomn Oct 21, 09, 01:42PM
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Strategies in Action [?] Code: 76327357 [?] new!
[Press the button if you are SURE that you are not interested in this order. Once you press it, the order will not be shown in the Available Orders list any more.]
Deadline: November 15 18:45 [?]
Time remaining: 24 days 22 hours 4 minutes
Status: Order is available
Compensation per page:
$2.4 [?]
Total:
$24 [?]
Number of pages:
10 (Double Spaced)
Number of sources:
9 [?]
Urgency:
30 days
Order Type:
Thesis
Category:
N/A
Academic level:
Master
Style:
Harvard [?]
Messages: 0 [?]
Files: 3
Description: [?]
Preferred language style: English(U.K.)
Pls use references from the attached study book in addition to the references mentioned in order 73327271.
10 pages, with 9 sources, MA level, 2.4???
These guys don't understand essay writing, that's their main problem, they seem to have nothing to do with it. All they want is a quick and sure way to rip people off.
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Oct 21, 09, 01:43PM
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Guys, if you want extensive evidence against and information about EssayWriters.net, check here:
http://voirdireveritas.blogspot.com/
I've verified all of the evidence, and it's 100% legit.
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| rustyironchains |
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Oct 21, 09, 04:57PM
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you gave them your real phone number??
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| WRT |
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Edited by: WRT Oct 21, 09, 05:18PM
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pheelyks: What writing did Fracture plagiarize?
Remember when you called him out? :) Fracturegang: Yes I plagiarize but I did it to test a self-f******r like you. I wanted to know whether you always brag or not.
That really makes no sense at all. You plagiarise but it is our fault? How? Come on, Salazar, you know you regularly plagiarise :) Care to tell us about your `happy' masterpapers.com customers :)
Fracturegang: In one sense you were right. That was not my writing. But the man whose writing that was and that you edited a haughty manner can f***** you throughout your whole life.
The man whose writing Pheelyks corrected should not be writing at all. Is he your boyfriend?
Fracturegang: If I reveal his name before all, again you will prove that you are really a Self-F******.
The revelation of his name will prove that I am into `pleasuring' myself? Makes sense :)
Salazar, may I ask you a few personal questions?
1) Average hour: how many times do you get called an idiot?
2) Average day: how many times do you get punched in the face?
3) What's your IQ?
4) How many times have you been locked up in the looney bin? Average length of stay per time?
5) At exactly what age did you lose your self-respect or did you never have any?
6) Whose your role model? Dumb or Dumber?
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Edited by: Fracturegang Oct 21, 09, 09:46PM
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WRT: The man whose writing Pheelyks corrected should not be writing at all. Is he your boyfriend?
He is an American, Paul Thomas.
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 21, 09, 09:52PM
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Fracturegang: He is an American, Paul Thomas.
Paul Thomas shouldn't be writing professionally or academically, either.
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Edited by: Fracturegang Oct 21, 09, 09:52PM
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WRT: Salazar, may I ask you a few personal questions? 1) Average hour: how many times do you get called an idiot? 2) Average day: how many times do you get punched in the face? 3) What's your IQ? 4) How many times have you been locked up in the looney bin? Average length of stay per time? 5) At exactly what age did you lose your self-respect or did you never have any? 6) Whose your role model? Dumb or Dumber?
You are the stupidest person on this planet. Now let me f*** your a***.
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Oct 21, 09, 09:54PM
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pheelyks: Paul Thomas shouldn't be writing professionally or academically, either.
He is my teacher. He runs an ELT center in my country.
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 21, 09, 10:07PM
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Fracturegang: He is my teacher. He runs an ELT center in my country.
He shouldn't be teaching English in any country, and this explains a lot about why you're in the position you are.
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 21, 09, 10:08PM
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By the way, there are many common programs in the US that send people abroad to teach English in foreign (usually third world) countries. All you have to have is a high school diploma--and these are not hard to get.
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Edited by: Fracturegang Oct 21, 09, 11:10PM
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pheelyks: All you have to have is a high school diploma--and these are not hard to get.
Do you have any friend in your country? You behavior is so disgusting that I think you wife or your fiance (if you have any) has already left you. Also I think whether you have anymore teeth left. It is very possible that she has taken all of your teeth.
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 21, 09, 11:24PM
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Fracturegang: Do you have any friend in your country? You behavior is so disgusting that I think you wife or your fiance (if you have any) has already left you. Also I think whether you have anymore teeth left. It is very possible that she has taken all of your teeth.
Where to begin.....
Yes, I have friends. Please stop trying to hurt my feelings, you brute.
I also have my teeth; my girlfriend keeps them in a jar under her pillow--which is next to mine on our bed.
What does this have to do with the fact that your teacher can't write in decent English?
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| Fracturegang |
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Oct 21, 09, 11:33PM
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You are mad. I am tried of talking with you. Don't respond to any of post.
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Oct 21, 09, 11:35PM
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Fracturegang: You are the stupidest person on this planet. Now let me f*** your a***.
Fracturegang: You behavior is so disgusting |
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| WRT |
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Oct 22, 09, 10:06AM
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Fracturegang: Now let me f*** your a***.
A self-confessed sodomite ... Sorry, Salazar, I have to decline your offer.
Fracturegang: You are mad.
The insane always believe themselves sane and label all others `mad.'
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| Fracturegang |
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Oct 23, 09, 07:42AM
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WRT: The insane always believe themselves sane and label all others `mad.'
This insane WRT has enough on his plate without adding us to him.
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Oct 23, 09, 07:44AM
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WRT: A self-confessed sodomite
I hate to be a homo, but your disgusting behavior allures me to be a sodomite.
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| pheelyks |
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Oct 23, 09, 10:51AM
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Fracturegang: I hate to be a homo, but your disgusting behavior allures me to be a sodomite.
This makes no sense, on several different levels.
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| WRT |
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Oct 23, 09, 12:20PM
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Fracturegang: I hate to be a homo, but your disgusting behavior allures me to be a sodomite.
You get turned on only when disgusted? For the insane, that might make sane. For the rest of us:
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Edited by: mnomn Oct 23, 09, 12:52PM
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Dear Writers!
We would like to inform you about the new feature available in the system- SMS notification.
SMS feature is available as an option at the bottom of writer's profile along with the e-mail one.Writers that chose the feature subscribe for all the kinds of notifications[i][/i] sent by the company (notification about revision request, preferred writer for the order, lateness with submission etc.) In case a writer refuses from sms feature he/she still receives a notification if they are late with the product/product revision.
We hope the new service will be helpful to you.
Thank you for cooperation,
Writers' Dept.
"Each writer's performance is checked by QAD at the end of the month and those, who are qualified for the promotion, will be informed about that via our messaging system.
Good luck with your work!
Best regards,
Quality Assurance Department
It just makes my day every time I read something written on their site. How can these people control the quality of the papers they deliver to their customers if their English looks like a different language altogether? How can you "refuse from sms feature"? "product/product"?? "all the kinds of notifications"? And their punctuation...
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| mnomn |
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Oct 23, 09, 01:01PM
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It has been 3 weeks since we stopped putting late orders on "Hold". After careful analysis of writers' performance during the last 3 weeks we have discovered that tendency for lateness has grown. In this respect we have decided to leave fines for late delivery "Order deadline over", "Revision Deadline Over" even if client does not complain on lateness.
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| WRT |
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Oct 23, 09, 01:07PM
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mnomn: even if client does not complain on lateness.
Won't they ever stop embarrassing themselves?
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| mnomn |
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Oct 23, 09, 01:08PM
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"Though old version is still available it will no longer be updated, tested for technical problems and will shortly be deleted. All new features will be launched on the new version only and all writers are strongly recommended to use the updated interface."
They don't seem to like the definite article very much.
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