| WritersBeware |
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Mar 13, 09, 10:11PM
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Unacceptable. That's far too low.
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| Baker_d |
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Mar 13, 09, 11:36PM
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WritersBeware: Unacceptable. That's far too low.
So, what according to you should be the fair rate for writers?
Is it possible to negotiate with writing companies? If so, how does on go about doing it?
Thanks:)
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| WritersBeware |
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Edited by: WritersBeware Mar 13, 09, 11:42PM
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Writers should not work for less than 55% (with a 70% ceiling) of what the customer pays. All of the legitimate, American companies meet these payment standards. If you aren't being paid at least 55%, you're getting shafted.
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| randomwriter |
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Mar 14, 09, 01:29AM
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it may be true that American companies give a better chunk to writers from customer fees than UK companies. uk companies take around 200-240 pounds from a customer for a 2000 word undergrad essay and pay around 70-80 pounds to a writer. that's unacceptable and even if these companies are 'registered' their work culture is like any other fraudulent company and this practice has to be stopped
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| Baker_d |
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Edited by: Baker_d Mar 14, 09, 12:40PM
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WritersBeware: Writers should not work for less than 55% (with a 70% ceiling) of what the customer pays. All of the legitimate, American companies meet these payment standards. If you aren't being paid at least 55%, you're getting shafted.
Thanks for your valuable input. But how does one know what the cutomer has paid? Do writing companies inform their writers how much the customer has paid? If not, then how does one go about negotiating with companies, especially if the writer is new and has no experience?
Thanks.
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| april |
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Mar 14, 09, 04:30PM
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By the way, I am aldujda who started this topic. I terminated my account after posting the comment about Prospect Solution. I just want to let all of you know that I am not Muntazir Haider Ali as claimed, but I have no intention to tell Reston who I am.
I stopped working for Prospect Solution immediately after I wrote my comment last year. I just want to let all writers in this forum know that Dave Reston is very unprofessional in the way he handles the situation. Under no circumstance, I think it is not right to put someone real name on the site without their permission. I'm glad that I left the company, and believe me or not I still get e-mail from you to bid for works, which I never will even if it is the last place on earth to gain employment.
If you are working with this company and you have no problem with them, you are lucky. However, for those who plan to work for them, please be cautious. I'm now with Papers4You and **** and they are very professional. There is no need to chase them for the money because they pay on time and twice a month. Also, you don't have to produce your own invoice because they do it for you and you only have to approve whether it is correct. However, with Prospect Solution, you have to do it and if it is incorrect they will take £20 off your pay! So, you decide.
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| WritersBeware |
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Mar 14, 09, 04:49PM
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"Dave Reston" needs to take a remedial course in English grammar.
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Mar 16, 09, 04:01AM
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The fact that this "Dave Reston" has put someone's name on the forum without their consent and even threatened to put details about their payment records really says it all about this company. I don' think I will apply.
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| FreelanceWriter |
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Mar 16, 09, 06:09PM
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Baker_d: how does one know what the cutomer has paid? Do writing companies inform their writers how much the customer has paid? |
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Mar 16, 09, 08:36PM
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Ok......Thanks.
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| matt4587 |
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Apr 13, 09, 04:49PM
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I just put my initial application through with Prospect, and received the email regarding what evidence they require for me to continue.
Of course, any request for such private and important information made me do a little research about the company first before I continued; and I find this.
I've read through all this and it's rather concerning to be honest.
Not that I now perceive Prospect in a negative light (I think :S) but all this is quite out of the ordinary. Is it really worth it???
Thanks
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| Lavinia |
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Apr 14, 09, 03:26AM
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Matt, to clarify:
1. You are applying as a writer?
2. What private and important information did Prospect request?
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| moushki |
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Apr 14, 09, 12:15PM
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Hi,
I've also just signed up with Prospect Solution as a writer, and I'm having a few concerns before I start on my first 'job'. (btw: the information they ask of you is ID, such as a copy of passport or driving licence, copies of essays or papers in your specialist areas, copy of qualifications, and general contact details. I haven't yet given my banking info to them).
My concern at the moment is not so much about the money, as I have yet to do anything for them, but more about their credibility. I am completely new to this whole area, of writing 'research papers' or essays, or whatever they call them, and I know a lot of them out there are just for students to use on their courses. Is this true for ALL sites? And, especially please from anyone who uses Prospect Solution, is this true of them? I have emailed the company and I am awaiting a clear and honest reply from them. It makes me highly uncomfortable knowing this is what my writing might be being used for. Can anyone allay my worries?
Thanks
K
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| writingpot |
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Apr 14, 09, 01:37PM
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I think thats normal I have signed up too and you just prepare/load down invoice and put either pay pal or bank details on then. they sound ok to me
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| Lavinia |
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Edited by: Lavinia Apr 14, 09, 02:57PM
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The writing sample is normal (assuming it's not extensive. Some scam companies will ask for several different samples and then not hire the writer, keeping the samples for themselves for resale).
The copy of quals is normal, the general contact details, etc.
The only thing that might give me pause is the request for the DL/passport. But it's been several years since I applied to a company so I'm not sure if I'm just not remembering the request or if it's perhaps different if you apply to a company who hires international writers.
Personally, I've never been a fan of giving anyone my bank details, as I prefer to get paid with mailed, paper checks. However, again, that might be a limitation caused by being international.
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| writingpot |
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Apr 14, 09, 05:54PM
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Yes your right and I agree, however if they cant give the inland revenue details of their self employed people by way of proof by say driving licence/ passport they may be liable for the income tax themselves. I don't know about the US but I had to do this when I run a hotel with self employed waiters for example who you couldn't employ permanently because of seasonal and fluctuation changes. I think in the UK we can protect ourselves from the bank detail scenario because we do want to be paid somehow and if we are dealing with a UK legit company we have comeback with their business reg., and details etc.
Isn't life just a bowl of cherries then u die...........
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| writingpot |
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Apr 14, 09, 06:39PM
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The other thing is if your in the uk, have a bus pass (that takes you free anywhere in the UK which should be daunting enough to any enabled person ) and two walking sticks, and if you were say disabled and a pensioner, and if they were not going to pay you in some devious way, I think just turning up at the office would be good enough with a recruitment of sympathetic press people alongside. These companies shouldn't forget that we are the top 10% of educated people in the world and we can think and not all are senile. They will and cannot get away with devious tactics just because of the work we do.
Life is just a bowl of cherries........so if stuck poke out eyes with walking sticks and claim senility if necessary!
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| Lizzy |
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Apr 26, 09, 07:38AM
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I have just applied to Prospect Solutions and have been accepted. I am happy to provide evidence of my academic work, but feel uneasy sending them all the other ID they have requested as I am understandably nervous about identity theft. Could anyone tell me if they are reliable on this front?
Also, as I am completely new to all of this, could someone explain to me what they actually want their writers to do? I understood that they needed editors and researchers, but from reading the comments on this site, it appears that they expect their employees to write essays for students and this is not something I would be prepared to do. Students should research and write their own essays.
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| dearbats |
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Apr 26, 09, 10:00AM
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Lizzy: this is not something I would be prepared to do. Students should research and write their own essays.
You're clearly in the wrong place!
Why did you apply?
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Apr 26, 09, 04:54PM
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I didn't understand what the deal was as they are not clear that this is what they do. Now I know, there is absolutely no way I would consider working for them as apart from disagreeing with the practice, there is no way that the pay is enough for orginal, academic work.
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| tarajess |
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Apr 28, 09, 09:39PM
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Another rip off company? Its too bad all of you honest people can't get together and start your own service.
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| fallenangel |
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May 3, 09, 01:29PM
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Ironically, more than 17k papers from prospect solutions can be purchased from mightystudents. Where do these papers come from?
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| Nemika |
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Jul 21, 09, 09:31AM
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So disappointing to hear this Vish Kanya. I am from India and can write fairly well in English. In fact, there are many others who can write even better. So if Prospect Solution wants to give them a fair chance, what is wrong with that? They do have strict quality assurance mechanisms in place to deliver good quality work to their clients. Basically, it all depends on how seriously a person takes his work - I've had appreciative clients requesting me to do more pieces for them. Sorry for replying to your post after all these months, but it's a bit odd to note the deprecating attitude of some non-natives towards other non-natives :) Cheers.
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Jul 21, 09, 01:33PM
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Where is I can make mony as writer of essays? I do good researche and english?
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| april |
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Jul 30, 09, 06:37PM
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Please do not work for this company. They are not professional in any way.
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| coolankur6 |
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Feb 8, 10, 05:29AM
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Well have never interacted with David but i am a new victim of Prospect Solution. Sitting in India with more than GBP 1000 forfeited by prospect. But i am not going to sit like many others i will initiate legal and other damaging actions if i am not paid by them. I think basically they have a racist behavior towards their writers.
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Edited by: coolankur6 Feb 8, 10, 10:42AM
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Well i will like to take my words back. My problem with Prospect is now resolved after my discussion with Dave and i agree that some part of the mistake was mine too. It has been a pleasure working with prospect solution and i'll continue my work with them. Was unable to delete the earlier post so every one visiting please ignore the same.
Thanks Dave and all the best to other writers.
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| coolankur6 |
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Feb 8, 10, 10:58AM
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coolankur6: Well have never interacted with David but i am a new victim of Prospect Solution. Sitting in India with more than GBP 1000 forfeited by prospect. But i am not going to sit like many others i will initiate legal and other damaging actions if i am not paid by them. I think basically they have a racist behavior towards their writers.
Well i will like to delete this post, i was wrong in my opinion and will like this incorrect entry to be deleted
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Mar 2, 10, 06:55AM
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It is true that the researcher gets about a quarter of the fees that are charged to the client as my friend has phoned them for a quote.
I have worked with Prospect for a few years and haven't had any problems with being paid but I do think that the researchers could get paid more.
Can anyone recommend other writing companies to work for?
Thanks
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| justawriter |
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Mar 26, 10, 07:29PM
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I worked for Prospect Solution for nearly a year and I won't write for them again.
They were perfectly fine to me for the first few months that I was writing--I bid on nearly every brief that came to me that I was suitable for and wrote thousands of pounds worth of briefs. I wasn't a huge fan of how they do their invoicing--I think it's needlessly fiddly that the writer has to do so much work to get the information off of the site and felt their rules were a bit harsh on mistakes, but I'm detail-oriented so I never had administrative difficulties. I also never had any problems with amendments for months on end. Occasionally I had amendment requests, of course, especially for bigger papers like dissertations where the client wanted to make some tweaks, but everything was handled just fine.
But then the last couple of months I worked for them were just horrible. I don't know if they changed staff or if they changed rules, but suddenly, I was getting amendment requests constantly that they weren't happy with. There was just no support for their writer--if a client gave information on their brief that ended up not being what they wanted (there were several times when the amendment requests were clearly brought about because the client hadn't been clear to begin with), then I was the one who was penalised for the necessary amendments. Even that I could tolerate to a point--it's the nature of the business, after all.
Where I could no longer put up with their business practices, however, was when they began messing around with my online account. I had a brief that was completed more than three weeks previously jump from my Completed Briefs section back over to Works In Progress section--because the client had gotten their paper back from their tutor and wanted amendments based on the comments that came back. Never mind that this was against the rules that PS set up themselves (amendments are to be made within 7 days, completed briefs are then paid in the next invoice) or that it was unfair to take away my earned pay for that period.
I did the amendments for that brief as a courtesy, yet this sort of practice just kept happening. They would hold a brief in Works in Progress section for several weeks, rather than the posted 7 days. Amendments would go on and on, with the client requesting new things each time. When I had done several amendments on a brief and complained to them that this was over the normal period and that the amendments were outside of what was called for in the original brief, they accused me of "not liking to take criticism" and they took half the pay for the piece. They took half even though their own rules indicated that I should have taken no more than a 20% penalty--if anything--for not doing a final amendment.
They had a nasty habit of removing whole briefs from my online account while they decided what they were going to do with it. If I hadn't taken screen shots to keep track of what was supposed to be where, I have no doubt that they would have stayed quiet and let me go without payment for briefs--there was more than once that I had to write to them to ask that they put briefs back onto my account. Even after they were written and accepted!
I just got zero support from them, is the problem. They would be rude, and if called on their rudeness, they would backtrack. They would say on one hand that they respected how much quality work I had done for them, while on the other telling me that I was being unreasonable to expect a client to not be allowed to have as many free off-brief amendments as they wanted.
I'm working for another company now and the difference in writer support is incredible. I'm paid more, I'm supported through amendments, and I just feel like a valued team member. The difference in how I'm treated just makes the job a whole world better. It would take the Apocalypse for me to go back to Prospect Solution.
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| april |
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Apr 24, 10, 04:49AM
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I totally I agree with you Justawriter. I had the same problems with Prospect Solution. I left them two years ago back and now I work for *****. I love it! They are very professional and supportive. I new regret that I left Prospect Solution. As compared to *****, Prospect Solution is Hell and ***** is heaven.
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| mehboobhassan |
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Feb 16, 12, 02:02AM
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I have been working with Prospect Solution since 3/4 months, it is witnessed that they are a company of very decent system.
I completed my first brief in December 2011 and duly received payment from them in January 2012. I completed 2 more briefs in January which will be rewarded at the end of current month.
It is a fact that they are very punitive, they do not hesitate to cancel your low quality brief submission and you need to follow all the provided guidelines to secure your rewards and good status.
You also need to follow their guidelines for placing bids:
1- Do not place too many bids in a day.
2- Do not place bids when you are completing a brief.
It is a worthy experience overall.
Best regards,
Mehboob Hassan - mehboobhassan(at)msn.com
Karachi, Pakistan.
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"Read Qurán with understanding at least Once in your Lifetime"
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